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Is eny different between this two phone? I read that have many problems with orbit2, is the same with Touch cruise, same problems? Now i have o2 orbit and thinking to buy orbit2 or cruise, but i m little sceptical, becouse of problems..
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Nobody knows?
Is any test between these to phones on net?
Thanks!
IMHO the o2 has a better form factor...it's more rounded...
but other than that, i'm pretty sure its 100% the same exact hardware on the inside...and as a touch cruise owner, i can tell you it's a lag ridden slow ass POS..return it while u still can, cause drivers aren't coming any time soon
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i can tell you it's a lag ridden slow ass POS..return it while u still can, cause drivers aren't coming any time soon
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Don't take that for gospel. I have owned many PPC's going back to 2000 and i can tell you from my experience, the TC performs just fine in day-to-day operation. As a matter of fact, it performs much better than my last 2 devices, a Treo 750 and the KJAM.
1. Wi-Fi
2. BT
3. Front earphone
4. Radio
5. Bad painting
6. Shutting down suddenly
Are these problems have only orbit2 or both?
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1. Wi-Fi
2. BT
3. Front earphone
4. Radio
5. Bad painting
6. Shutting down suddenly
Are these problems have only orbit2 or both?
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I have no such "problems" with my TC. However, if you want to nitpick, the FM antenna is not very strong so there can be interference if used in a place like a metropolitan city.
Other than that, I have not had any problems.
4.) bad painting
all the time...all you have to do is be viewing a web site in whatever browser and press the phone key. Depending on what other applications you have open, and how much ram you are using, it can take up to 1-5 seconds to fully "paint" the dialpad on the screen, piece by piece.
If you are scrolling through anything, lets say the programs menu, or a website, the screen flickers, and lags.
I can remember back about 15 years ago, to my first desktop PC...it was a pentium 133 MHZ, with an ATI 3d card that had 8MB of ram I believe, and it ran windows 3.11 for workgroups, and then windows 95.
Lets just say even that comp (if it were still put together) could out do the touch cruise graphics wise.
As for the other problems you are describing, I have not had any issues with those. For the most part, it's just the graphics \ user interface stuff and lack of proper video drivers.
The actual radio hardware is fine.
If i were you, I would wait until all the issues are worked out before you spend alot of money on a handheld..unless you really need it. I'm actually thinking of selling my touch cruise and getting an Atom V.
both are same inside, but i'm on my 3rd O2 Orbit 2 due to cosmetics, i get the feeling the new 'stylised' case for the Orbit 2 is rushed, as all 3 have gaps, off centre screen and now my 3rd one the GPS plug keeps falling out! lol
i'd go for the original 'design' as most complaints i've heard have been about O2 version - BUT just cosmetics, not hardware.
i really can't be bothered to send this back, but will think twice about what i upgrade to next :/
or a website, the screen flickers, and lags.
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If you're using PIE, there is a fix for that. After applying the fix, scrolling is just fine.
I also have no scrolling issues using Netfront 3.5.
cosmetics i agree with that.
if you look in the accessories thread, there are multiple posts about the top screen being crooked and not glued onto the other screen, hearing snap backs when tapping on or around the corners.
Also I agree that the micro-sd hatch is very poorly designed, also along with the GPS plug.
Just a thought, that keeps recurring though my mind...why didn't they put more time and thought into these devices, when they cost upwards of $1000.
Unless of course, they made it this way, cosmetics and software, purposely...
But that's just me...there are some people who don't seem to have a problem with the way this device performs.
I think though, that I'm being over critical, because all of the previous HTC devices I have used, have never had problems that have even come close to this, and also, they didn't cost nearly as much. I just expected so much more from the TC.
o2orbit said:
1. Wi-Fi
2. BT
3. Front earphone
4. Radio
5. Bad painting
6. Shutting down suddenly
Are these problems have only orbit2 or both?
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On the TC
1) Wi-fi is fine
2) Only used BT to transfer files between laptop and phone, works fine.
3) No problem with earphone
4) not sure, the actual radio ROM (reception, etc) or FM Radio. 1st one is fine, 2nd one reception can suck.
5) Sux donkey balls. See the post about dialer skin lag. very true.
6) Never happened.
The device is fine overall with day to day use. but sometimes stuff just won't freakin work or will lag. every once in awhile my GPS will take forever to lock or when it does it will be off by a bit. sometimes windows live mail won't send/receive when i want it to. other times i feel the device just can't handle multiple things at the same time. opening audio manager when you have several hundred music files takes about 5-10 secs. then when listening to music while typing an sms, you will feel some lag while typing as opposed to typing with no music playing.
I have an Orbit 2 ...build wise its fantastic. Before I bought it, I was going to buy the iphone, the salesman in the O2 shop gave me a demo on the iphone's rigidity and build quality, he held the iphone flat in his palm with the screen up and slammed it down hard onto a wooden desk from a height of approx 1 metre....it looked very impressive...when I got my Orbit 2 I did the same.....not even a scratch....
Also thought I would comment on BT issues..since I failed to mention it in my previous post
Handsfree works great.
I have a handsfree system in my automobile, and I have a motorola HS850 as well.
No problems whatsoever.
Also, activesync works great over BT, so does internet sharing using the PAN.
File transfer takes a long time, but that is to be expected, since BT data transfer rates aren't as good as USB.
A2DP however, sucks the big one.
I've tried 5 different a2dp devices\headsets...
It's all lag ridden, staticy at times, and sometiems it just plain stops and skips for 5-20 seconds.
It seems like whenever you use a2dp it lags the whole friggen device as well..
I emailed HTC about this and their response was less than helpful.
They gave me a bunch of a2dp headset models that they have "tested"
and then told me that just because they were tested doesn't mean they are fully functional without issues.
I tried to tell them that it wasn't the headsets and it was the device itself, but they didn't seem to listen to what I had to say.
Never tried a2dp, but i don't have a hard time seeing this happening with this device. just the kind of thing to be expected. and i wanted to have stereo bluetooth to listen to music, etc. is it really that bad? guess i won't be trying that.
as far as build quality, it's good so far. except the loose volume switch on the side that rattles. kinda lame there. i've heard of the orbit2 jog dials falling off. there's another thread about that somewhere.
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cosmetics i agree with that.
if you look in the accessories thread, there are multiple posts about the top screen being crooked and not glued onto the other screen, hearing snap backs when tapping on or around the corners.
Also I agree that the micro-sd hatch is very poorly designed, also along with the GPS plug.
Just a thought, that keeps recurring though my mind...why didn't they put more time and thought into these devices, when they cost upwards of $1000.
Unless of course, they made it this way, cosmetics and software, purposely...
But that's just me...there are some people who don't seem to have a problem with the way this device performs.
I think though, that I'm being over critical, because all of the previous HTC devices I have used, have never had problems that have even come close to this, and also, they didn't cost nearly as much. I just expected so much more from the TC.
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I'm one of the ones not having a problem with my TC. I agree the web using ie is slow but is also on every other wm device I've had. So I use opera mini.
Upwards of $1000?? Where the hell are you buying it anyway? That's a bit exagerated isn't it? I concur tho that phones are getting more and more expensive and the quality of build is not equal to cost. Actually my gf's t-mo go phone cost $40 and is seemingly indestructable.
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A2DP however, sucks the big one.
I've tried 5 different a2dp devices\headsets...
It's all lag ridden, staticy at times, and sometiems it just plain stops and skips for 5-20 seconds.
It seems like whenever you use a2dp it lags the whole friggen device as well..
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You seem to have a lot of complaints. However, I can tell you that I have experienced no such lags as you mention using A2DP. I use a Moto S9 when I work out at the gym and no problems at all. I can even surf the web while using A2DP using Opera Mini or Mobile without issue. Keep in mind that I push multi-tasking on my devices.
I will say however, that using the S9's with the TC in NYC is crappy due to the weakness of the BT signal. I used to have the same issue with my Treo 750 using WM5 then when I upgraded to WM6 the issue seemed to lessen enough to the point where I didn't quite mind the "occasional" skip.
o2orbit said:
Is eny different between this two phone? I read that have many problems with orbit2, is the same with Touch cruise, same problems? Now i have o2 orbit and thinking to buy orbit2 or cruise, but i m little sceptical, becouse of problems..
Thanke you!
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Did they up the ram? Because 64mb is unaceptable. Causes freeze-ups and shut downs. Gotta have 128mb minimum.
JNGold said:
You seem to have a lot of complaints. However, I can tell you that I have experienced no such lags as you mention using A2DP. I use a Moto S9 when I work out at the gym and no problems at all.
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Hm..I don't get it..
I tried those and they had the same problems as all the other ones I tried.
I tried them in my house, working out, airports, planes...no matter where i went they were the same. I dunno man :-\ I am having alot of bad luck lately...
And also, to comment about the price thing...the Sedna costs 1000 and the touch cruise is currently going for 700-800...I paid 850 for mine but i got it after one of the first shipments to the wholesaler. This is in the US though...I've heard these same exact phones cost like $50 in hong kong. Dunno if it's true but...search google checkout for the HTC Sedna, and see how much they cost.
$50 for a Cruise in HK??? no way. link?
surgex0 said:
Hm..I don't get it..
I tried those and they had the same problems as all the other ones I tried.
I tried them in my house, working out, airports, planes...no matter where i went they were the same. I dunno man :-\ I am having alot of bad luck lately...
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Yea, surgex0, you might wanna do some investigation, b/c A2DP works perfectly for me also. No skipping, great quality, and I can multitask w/o a real slowdown in performance. I've used it with my Samsung A2DP headphones, my Sony A2DP input/output adapter for my home stereo, and random A2DP demo products in stores. No issues here... Maybe try other headphones, or if you are on a custom rom try the original rom.
I don't know if this would be as easy as a CAB, but I know the G-sensor calibrator was easily enough removed from the Raphael ROM to be used on Diamonds... My Raphael didn't come with the G-sensor calibration tool, so that was useful to me. Can anyone get the software out of their Raphael for the FM radio so I can see if my device even has the hardware necessary for it?
Cobbled together from the package in my Diamond ROM, but I have no way of testing it on the Raphael ('cause mine already has the Radio), other than to say that the cab installs without an error.
See how it goes...
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Cobbled together from the package in my Diamond ROM, but I have no way of testing it on the Raphael ('cause mine already has the Radio), other than to say that the cab installs without an error.
See how it goes...
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Well, good news and bad news. "Your wired headset serves as an FM antenna..."
I don't have a wired headset. BUT, so far so good, it installed and ran without a problem! Thanks so much.
Black93300ZX said:
Well, good news and bad news. "Your wired headset serves as an FM antenna..."
I don't have a wired headset. BUT, so far so good, it installed and ran without a problem! Thanks so much.
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Ah. Another reason why we all despise AT&T soo much. Taking out the case and headset from the box. I mean seriously, why such cheapstakes?
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Ah. Another reason why we all despise AT&T soo much. Taking out the case and headset from the box. I mean seriously, why such cheapstakes?
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No, they may come with it... I got mine in a regular brown box since it's a pre-release model, didn't even have retail packaging. Came with charger, USB cable, and phone. That's it.
What do you think would happen if I were to try installing this on my wing? lol
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What do you think would happen if I were to try installing this on my wing? lol
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nothing unless your wing has the hardware for an FM radio included on it's main board
Yeah says it's not signed or missing one or more componets... would have been cool
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No, they may come with it... I got mine in a regular brown box since it's a pre-release model, didn't even have retail packaging. Came with charger, USB cable, and phone. That's it.
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Nah. Have you ever seen any HTC phone that came to AT&T with a headset or case? I haven't. And I'm sure I won't since AT&T are cheapstakes.
Kraize92 said:
Nah. Have you ever seen any HTC phone that came to AT&T with a headset or case? I haven't. And I'm sure I won't since AT&T are cheapstakes.
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Well, 15 year olds always know better than people who actually have the money to buy these phones...
Black, any copper wire going into the jack should act as an antenna. You should be able to test it by just plugging a USB cable into it. Then obviously use the speaker on the phone to see if you get sound. Reception probably won't be as good as if you used headphones, but if you at least get some static, you know you're good to go once you get headphones.
Nah it won't work I've got a usb cable plugged into mine right now but it's still asking for headphones. Thinking about it, it must know when you've connected headphones rather than a usb cable so it can mute the speaker.
My Touch Pro headphones were still sitting in the box until 5 minutes ago! The FM radio also works on the headphones that came with my Vario II, which I prefer cos they have a volume control on them, but the reception is much better on the Touch Pro headphones - probably because the Vario II ones weren't designed to be used as an antenna.
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Nah. Have you ever seen any HTC phone that came to AT&T with a headset or case? I haven't. And I'm sure I won't since AT&T are cheapstakes.
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8125 came with case & headset from Cingular (ATT).
Lets not sweat the small stuff. Jus tbe glad they don't disable all the features of the device to make you use their services like some other providers.
anyone with a dash, kaiser, etc should have a headset you can use. I'd love to see if this works...
p.s. Cingular/AT&T paid to NOT have them included in the box so they can sell you the accessories. The MPx220 from Cingular was the only iteration that didn't have the headphones. I had to buy them seperately.
-Mc
Ok so this question has been issued 3 times on XDA already, and some more on the net. However, noone, on the entire world, seems to have an idea on what to start with.
Why can't my phone act as a headset (bluetooth)?
An Android phone (but could be another OS) has BT drivers, speaker, microphone... all it needs! I undderstand phones are usually designed to be used with a BT headset rather than as a BT headset, but i see many situation where that could be handy:
- two phones (all calls taken from one)
- calling through computer, but handling the phone
- same through tablet
Now, here on XDA there are all kind of skilled hardcore devs. Why nobody ever got the Android BT driver and apps to turn the phone into a headset? Whyyyyy?
Thanks for reading
because they all bought in-ear bluetooth kits and couldn't be bothered.
Why not just buy a logitech 930 and roam the house? Probably a bit better on the head and if you are friend with Beyonce like me, great to hear in 7.1.
Lol, i wonder why every single thread asking this question always gets the same answer: "why not buy a headset?"
Although i understand what you are meaning, this does not answer the original question
Can someone please answer the actual question with technical details or is this subject cursed for life to getting no answer/off topic answers?
Roam the house? Bluetooth has a very short range.
If someone made android headphones that streamed PC stuff over wireless you'd have a far longer range and much better audio quality.
i really need that.... (why not just buy "BT", very meaningless since you are not understand our situation)
For me, HTC Flyer (tablet) x 1, HTC ChaCha x 1, I have hundreds of BT headsets, but dont you think:
1. extermly trouble every day charging for 3 items?
2. to bring 7" tablet, one cellphone and a bt headset more?
3. *** MAJOR PROBLEM*** i have 1 SIM card only (network and phone), with two mobile... if i can put the SIM into Flyer and pick up the phone from ChaCha that will be wonderful.
Kind of like the above poster I have an Android phone with a no data plan, but I have a galaxy tablet with a tablet data plan
So it is an very troublesome to yell at the tab to talk on Skype or Dell voice or other voip.
It would be very good if I can use my phone to act as the headset
I do not want to hang a Bluetooth headset on my ear
So...anyone has any idea?
Hi,
there is a solution you can use the samsung galaxy player 3.6 device with android 2.3.6.
It is a multimedia player not a smartphone but it has the BT profile so you can use it also as a headset for your phone or tablet and it works really great.
It can be a nice add-on for a tablet or an oversized telephone.
joexda75 said:
Hi,
there is a solution you can use the samsung galaxy player 3.6 device with android 2.3.6.
It is a multimedia player not a smartphone but it has the BT profile so you can use it also as a headset for your phone or tablet and it works really great.
It can be a nice add-on for a tablet or an oversized telephone.
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Anyway this could be ripped out of a ROM for that device and made to work on others?
darn what a dissapointment to notify that it will not work.
I wanted to keep my work phone and private phone sepparated but picking up all calls with my private phone while no one knows my private number seems so great...
any news on this??
Okay, so ive looked around, havent found much on the matter so i wanted to ask if it is possible to mirror a Windows Phones display on an external display via the MicroUSB port? Similar to the way Microsoft does it in demos/presentations...
There have been reports of this being implemented by Microsoft late last year but i havent seen or heard anything yet...
Anyone have any info?
yeah that's sound good. I wish windows phone would evaluate more and with Nokia on board they could make something like on the Nokia E7 the USB port using. i dont know how the name for that is but they can use usb sticks from Nokia to transfer thing to PC without a phone later. something similar could WP do, with all data on the phone, like a backup stick. where all the save backups are. just in case of error or something to have it handy. and they could manufacture it and i would buy it. it helps a lot. like your tread about TV out. that are small things that help a lot.
But they are still young Mobile OS and there is more room to improve
hope Tango brings this support !!
man...cant wait for Tango or Apollo !! hope they bring more cool and new features just as Mango did !!
MHL (Mobile High-definition Link) sounds promising. What about MicroUSB to RCA? Won't that work?
Im looking to get a new head unit for my car (Corsa D 1.2 2009), and was planning on getting the Teyes CC3. I then found out through this forum and elsewhere that its essentially just being resold? I then found other units like the Mekede M6 Pro, etc. Im not sure which one to get, does anyone have any suggestions? Or information that can help me decide between all of the UIS7862 out there?
Im leaning towards the Teyes even if it is slightly more expensive, as ive heard good things about their support and firmware updates.
But ive seen units for £180 (6+128gb) with better spec than the teyes at £250 (3+32gb)!
I mainly want good audio (so a good DSP and AMP chip), and i want polished looking software and not having to deal with the android stock menus as much.
For someone in the UK, what are peoples suggestions?
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Gershy13
Mekede M6 Pro (Youtube, another UK guy like you). Personally I would never buy a T'eyes. Too much closed source and paid software.
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Mekede M6 Pro (Youtube, another UK guy like you). Personally I would never buy a T'eyes. Too much closed source and paid software.
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Thanks,
Would you be able to tell me what the main differences between going with teyes and their closed apps (some examples of why theyre worse) compared to something that isnt locked down? Like mekede or anything else.
Another one i found is OSSURET? I was thinking of the S8
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004870713836.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.27a42034V35IGh&algo_pvid=bd602265-4596-42b3-a13b-f1fa8a31ac3c&algo_exp_id=bd602265-4596-42b3-a13b-f1fa8a31ac3c-2&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000030828861416%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21GBP%21168.28%2184.14%21%21%21%21%21%400b0a187b16722620012128392e6e8f%2112000030828861416%21sea&curPageLogUid=f8YkC5oOv6ja
It seems to have a slightly higher clocked processor too. And for the same price as the mekede i can get maxed storage and ram. Thoughts?
Are you planning to listen to FM radio? If you are I advise you to stay away from any FYT based head unit. If not go ahead.
Gaugamela said:
Are you planning to listen to FM radio? If you are I advise you to stay away from any FYT based head unit. If not go ahead.
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Curious as to why? But no never planning on using the radio. (Spotify only)
AF function (changing frequency of radio station when signal gets too weak to a stronger signal) doesn't work on FYT head-units. If you're in a country that doesn't use DAB this should be a deal breaker.
Wish I knew that before ordering mine, but I didn't even know it was an FYT head unit. xD
Also be aware that the Bluetooth pairing functionality is quite unintuitive to work if you plan to share data via bluetooth from your smartphone. It does not connect automatically so you need to connect manually every time.
Gaugamela said:
AF function (changing frequency of radio station when signal gets too weak to a stronger signal) doesn't work on FYT head-units. If you're in a country that doesn't use DAB this should be a deal breaker.
Wish I knew that before ordering mine, but I didn't even know it was an FYT head unit. xD
Also be aware that the Bluetooth pairing functionality is quite unintuitive to work if you plan to share data via bluetooth from your smartphone. It does not connect automatically so you need to connect manually every time.
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Ahh okay thanks. That's fine I don't mind using WiFi for internet sharing. Or even usb if it's supported.
And yeah no plans to use the radio so we're good.
Gaugamela said:
AF function (changing frequency of radio station when signal gets too weak to a stronger signal) doesn't work on FYT head-units. If you're in a country that doesn't use DAB this should be a deal breaker.
Wish I knew that before ordering mine, but I didn't even know it was an FYT head unit. xD
Also be aware that the Bluetooth pairing functionality is quite unintuitive to work if you plan to share data via bluetooth from your smartphone. It does not connect automatically so you need to connect manually every time.
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are you sure about that, have you tried https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...nd-sc9853i-fyt-devices.4387965/#post-86251871
Also, the BLuetooth on these units, comparatively, is very good, with proper BLE support via dual Bluetooth to support things like radar detectors (Valentine One.)
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are you sure about that, have you tried https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...nd-sc9853i-fyt-devices.4387965/#post-86251871
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Yes, I am sure. Go over the thread and Kotix explains it why he can't fix AF.
He made a work around for an user to easily switch between saved frequencies of the same radio station. But this is manual switching that an user needs to do by himself, not automated. This is not optimal when you're driving.
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Also be aware that the Bluetooth pairing functionality is quite unintuitive to work if you plan to share data via bluetooth from your smartphone. It does not connect automatically so you need to connect manually every time.
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My Bluetooth connects immediately every time I enter the car.
I also find FM radio to be excellent using NavRadio+
AF isn't a deal breaker for me. I only have 1 station that jumps between frequencies occasionally (BBC Radio 2) and Kotix workaround is intuitive and easy to use.
The fact that it doesn't affect doesn't mean the issue isn't there.
Bluetooth works well. Bluetooth 2 doesn't. There's the simple work around of automating an wifi hot spot when your phone connects to Bluetooth.
It's true the NavRadio+ is a big improvement but the AF doesn't work at all.
My bluetooth always connects to phone 1 but if you have phone 2 it will not link to it, you have to pair it manually even if it has been conected previously. That's a shame.
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It's true the NavRadio+ is a big improvement but the AF doesn't work at all.
My bluetooth always connects to phone 1 but if you have phone 2 it will not link to it, you have to pair it manually even if it has been conected previously. That's a shame.
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Same here - second phone never connects automatically. Really annoys me because we are two daily users of the car :/
Yeah, I know your pain lol. I suppose the manufacter would need to invest on a better bluetooth chip for two phones to work. I come from a Pioneer with bluetooth from 2008 and it already allowed to pair 2 distint phones at the SAME time!!! And it still works.
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My bluetooth always connects to phone 1 but if you have phone 2 it will not link to it, you have to pair it manually even if it has been conected previously. That's a shame.
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A recent thread addressed this and a reseller replied with a config.txt that seemingly results in the Bluetooth trying the last phone used and failing that trying the next phone in the list.
Does Bluetooth only reconnect to the last device used?
My unit allowed me to pair multiple phones (my wife and daughter also drive) but the Bluetooth system would only reconnect to the last phone used. So if I drove the car last, and then my wife drives, it won't connect to her phone without manually...
forum.xda-developers.com
I can see a few lines that might be relevant but I've no idea what the secret sauce is to change the behaviour.
Backup your current config.txt and give a few of them a try if you're confident.
Lines I can see that "might" relate to Bluetooth pairing...
ro.build.go_lasttop=true
sys.fyt.bluetooth_show_voice=true
persist.btpair.ssp=1
persist.fyt.enablebtvoice=true
persist.btautoconnect.count=3
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Hum... thats interesting stuff. Thanks. I'll do a little more digging and give it a try if I discard the chance of bricking something.
This thread has gone completely off track