Ok so basically for what I understood ny some reading is that when you use ODIN to flash ROM's you get the flash-counter +1 and bye bye warranty.
Can the flash counter be reset ? if so how do you do it? is that done by flashing back the stock ROM?
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right now the only way to reset the counter is with uart. I am sure this will change down the line but for now that is all we have.
shansmi said:
right now the only way to reset the counter is with uart. I am sure this will change down the line but for now that is all we have.
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I saw uart mentioned before but still having a hard time researching it. Care to explain how do I go about obtaining and using one?
Just to share my experience. I flashed rom two times until now and my counter is still to zero. I never used Odin to root or flash.
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erykz said:
Just to share my experience. I flashed rom two times until now and my counter is still to zero. I never used Odin to root or flash.
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Did you use Odin to flash CWM?
I know once you have CWM you can just flash the rom. zip through recovery (and don't need to use Odin).
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Rom counter does not trip with stock Samsung firmware
I used Odin to root and go back to stock after using multiple roms, still at zero on counter
SnackCracker said:
Did you use Odin to flash CWM?
I know once you have CWM you can just flash the rom. zip through recovery (and don't need to use Odin).
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I root with this method
http://jjpda.blogspot.com/2011/11/how-to-root-galaxy-note-safest-way.html
it works for the skyrocket and many other phones.
after that I downloaded cwm from the market and I installed it as an regular application. never used Odin.
You can also root then use rommanager to install cwm from tye tmobile gs2
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Thanks that's what I wanted to know.
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Thanks to Dxrta, attached is the stock recovery file needed for our Galaxy S II Skyrocket just in case you want to revert back to stock after using CWM Recovery. This could be useful when wanting to perform OTA updates.
Just flash the file via Odin by placing the .tar file in the pda.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/144478/Stock Recovery.tar
Easy. Grab the return to stock Odin package. Using 7zip look inside the tar delete boot.img, system.img. flash away stock recovery.
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Dxtra said:
Easy. Grab the return to stock Odin package. Using 7zip look inside the tar delete boot.img, system.img. flash away stock recovery.
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Thank you for that. Being up at 3am is not conducive for intelligent thought.
I will attach the file to the 1st post in case anybody else needs it.
Add a Warning about the rom counter if the use odin.
Did it work?
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Did it work?
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Yes it worked great. However my device is now telling me there is no update available. I will try back again in 24 hours.
na, just set the date ahead 24 hours...
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na, just set the date ahead 24 hours...
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I tried that already 2 times. Still didn't work.
strange, that has worked for many. not sure how fota works. it may be imei ranges or something. your not the first to check and find no update.
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strange, that has worked for many. not sure how fota works. it may be imei ranges or something. your not the first to check and find no update.
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No worries. I had a fellow xda member, mcmexican, check his SkyRocket to see if there was an update he had none as well.
Wierd, I used odin to flash back to stock and checked afterword and have no number under counter. Powered off and plugged in my usb jig and everything looks fine.
it tripped mine and now there is no way to reset it (yet)!
I used przekret's odin file, though, so it may be different.
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I used przekret's odin file, though, so it may be different.
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I used the regular 1.85 Odin and it didn't add a count either.
same here...
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Thanks to Dxrta, attached is the stock recovery file needed for our Galaxy S II Skyrocket just in case you want to revert back to stock after using CWM Recovery. This could be useful when wanting to perform OTA updates.
Just flash the file via Odin by placing the .tar file in the pda.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/144478/Stock Recovery.tar
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Does this "unroot" the phone so it could, for instance, be sent in for warranty repair or return?
My Skyrocket is on it's way to me now to replace my old Captivate, not sure I want to root this one or leave it stock.
damonib said:
Does this "unroot" the phone so it could, for instance, be sent in for warranty repair or return?
My Skyrocket is on it's way to me now to replace my old Captivate, not sure I want to root this one or leave it stock.
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No this simply puts the stock android recovery on the phone instead of cwm.
Flash the stock ROM from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19403935 for sending your phone in for warranty.
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Easy. Grab the return to stock Odin package. Using 7zip look inside the tar delete boot.img, system.img. flash away stock recovery.
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wont let me delete without paying for the full version
So if I were to use this and go back to factory. I have cwm and rooted, and I am running the icecream sandwhich Rom, what do I need to do to flash back over? Do I need to do a full factory data wipe and so on?
Is this for Roger's SR as well?
Currently running TPC v3...want to return my phone with hopes of getting a better screen. Anyways...I thought for sure I was screwed because I have been a flashohalic. I had never checked my counter prior to today...
And when I did there was no custom binary installed and I still had the green android dude...no triangle! I don't know how this is possible ....explanation?
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Currently running TPC v3...want to return my phone with hopes of getting a better screen. Anyways...I thought for sure I was screwed because I have been a flashohalic. I had never checked my counter prior to today...
And when I did there was no custom binary installed and I still had the green android dude...no triangle! I don't know how this is possible ....explanation?
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Flashing rom's does not trip the counter. Using download mode and Odin trips the counter.......when u flash back to stock u Will trip the counter.
I don't care about the counter though so flash away
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Thank....so If I flash a stock Rom and stock recovery ....I should be able to return exchange my SR. It I'll still be rooted but most att reps only know how to get to recovery. Hoping I can slip this past them.
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If you want to stay super safe, only use Odin to flash CWM, then backup your rom IMMEDIATELY after. Then if you want to install an app, only use zips. I flashed a few roms with my first SR and the counter never reset, then when I wanted to go back, I just recovered my stock backup.
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Fortune090 said:
If you want to stay super safe, only use Odin to flash CWM, then backup your rom IMMEDIATELY after. Then if you want to install an app, only use zips. I flashed a few roms with my first SR and the counter never reset, then when I wanted to go back, I just recovered my stock backup.
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That's true... you could restore a CWM Nandroid stock image... but phone would still have CWM Recovery partition... someone correct me if I'm wrong, but if you want to "return to stock " for an exchange, you'll need to put 3e Recovery back on and the only way I know of is to reflash stock 3e recovery tar via Odin3... no? And an Odin flash will trip the binary counter.
Flashing Samsung stock odin packages does NOT trigger the counter. Flashing none Samsung Odin packages does.
You can always flash back to stock and your counter will stay at zero it was zero.
for me was the other way around... I flashed stock rom to revert back and it triggered the counter.
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clubtech said:
Flashing Samsung stock odin packages does NOT trigger the counter. Flashing none Samsung Odin packages does.
You can always flash back to stock and your counter will stay at zero it was zero.
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For me it did trigger the counter flashing stock rom.
I dont get the point of the counter anyway?
is Samsung going to tell you you can't get it warrantied because you were having probelms with the phone and flashed it to see if it was a software issue? lol.
How do you check the counter?
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How do you check the counter?
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in download mode..
So I take it that since I still have the green Android cartoon rather than a triangle, I'm good?
how did u flash a TOM?
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how did u flash a TOM?
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I'd rather flash a Mary.
It was tricky and it went quicker than I had imagined
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Hi friends, has anybody tried rooting via Gingerbreak or ZergRush method? Is it safe? Why is this not working on SGR?
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Hi friends, has anybody tried rooting via Gingerbreak or ZergRush method? Is it safe? Why is this not working on SGR?
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Samsung Galaxy R is not such a widely used phone (can't seem to figure out why), hence, the low compatibility rate.
and i guess there is no other way to Root or Unroot your phone (just yet) without flashing via Odin. However no one's stopping you from trying other methods... Just be on the safe side and keep backups of everything.
P.S. : You won't void your warranty if you flash Stock Firmware or the CWM via Odin... And anything done by the CWM doesn't increase your custom counter so you are good to go for the warranty...
Thank you mate..... But, If I flash CWM.... will I be able to get back to stock recovery.... If yes... Could you give me a link for such guide.....
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You get back stock recovery when you re-flash your fw via odin. If you don't want to reflash the whole fw, just take a recovery.img (or recovery.bin - I don't remember) from .tar package and create a separate .tar file for it -> and flash via odin.
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Thank you mate..... But, If I flash CWM.... will I be able to get back to stock recovery.... If yes... Could you give me a link for such guide.....
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Just flash the Stock ROM. It will revert back everything.
If I wanted to go back to my stock rom for warranty purposes, do I just download the original from samsung-update
Put the .zip into my SD card. And use CWM to install it?
Plus, if I put the original ROM back onto my phone, will the "Custom" bootloader appear or will it be normal?
And how would I get rid of CWM? Just delete recovery.img?
The file you'll download is going to be a file that you need to flash with Odin, once flash it puts everything back the way it was. No you won't get the custom when flashing back to stock since you'll be using an official signed rom. You should, however, might want to make sure you don't have a counter going for the number of unsigned rom flashes.
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scsa20 said:
The file you'll download is going to be a file that you need to flash with Odin, once flash it puts everything back the way it was. No you won't get the custom when flashing back to stock since you'll be using an official signed rom. You should, however, might want to make sure you don't have a counter going for the number of unsigned rom flashes.
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What's a counter?
Do I delete everything by with CWM and then use odin to flash my GS3?
Or do I just use odin over my custom rom?
emckai said:
What's a counter?
Do I delete everything by with CWM and then use odin to flash my GS3?
Or do I just use odin over my custom rom?
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Prior to using odin to flash the stock image, be sure to use EZ-Recovery for VZW Galaxy S3 to flash the stock recovery.
Click link in sig...your questions are answered there.
Droidstyle posted a great step by step on how to go back stock, in the developers section of this forum
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droidstyle said:
Click link in sig...your questions are answered there.
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Ohhh, thank you very much. I'll be using that!
chip594 said:
Droidstyle posted a great step by step on how to go back stock, in the developers section of this forum
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Thanks!
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Prior to using odin to flash the stock image, be sure to use EZ-Recovery for VZW Galaxy S3 to flash the stock recovery.
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Is that necessary? I odin'ed using the stock image and my custom recovery is gone, so was the unlocked keypad.
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Is that necessary? I odin'ed using the stock image and my custom recovery is gone, so was the unlocked keypad.
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I had a kexec recovery installed and flashed back to stock a couple nights ago and completely lost recovery. Luckily it booted into the rom and I was planning to re-root anyway using the simple root to make sure I didn't have any Sprint stuff like the initial root method.
Hello my friends, I would like to make sure I am clear on how to return the 1727 to stock in order to return to ATT for service.
My understanding thus far is that I must do the following:
1. Return to stock firmware using ODIN
2. Reset the flash counter
How do I delete the traces of CWM recovery, and also ODIN itself? Is it possible to make the phone look entirely 'unrooted' for ATT to fix and/or service?
Thanks!
Flash the stock rom with odin. It'll replace cwm with the stock recovery. You can use triangle away to reset the flash counter. Do that after returning to stock.
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otacon507 said:
Hello my friends, I would like to make sure I am clear on how to return the 1727 to stock in order to return to ATT for service.
My understanding thus far is that I must do the following:
1. Return to stock firmware using ODIN
2. Reset the flash counter
How do I delete the traces of CWM recovery, and also ODIN itself? Is it possible to make the phone look entirely 'unrooted' for ATT to fix and/or service?
Thanks!
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Hello friend! Read the stickies and previous threads asking the same question.
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Hello friend! Read the stickies and previous threads asking the same question.
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did not see anything about the flash counter in the stickies, or any details about what happens to the custom recovery after ODIN restores to stock, thats why I made this post!
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Flash the stock rom with odin. It'll replace cwm with the stock recovery. You can use triangle away to reset the flash counter. Do that after returning to stock.
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Are you sure triangle away will work with the 1727? Its not on the list of supported devices
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did not see anything about the flash counter in the stickies, or any details about what happens to the custom recovery after ODIN restores to stock, thats why I made this post!
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A stock tar restores stock 3e recovery. If you're counter had not been incremented, and it probably hasn't, you don't need triangle away. We also have a "counter reset" that you can flash if you have increased your counter. So, no need for triangle away anyways.
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A stock tar restores stock 3e recovery. If you're counter had not been incremented, and it probably hasn't, you don't need triangle away. We also have a "counter reset" that you can flash if you have increased your counter. So, no need for triangle away anyways.
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Thanks crazy, Im not getting a triangle but my counter is definitely incremented from flashing cfw through odin. Looks like I'll be squared away soon, my thanks again! Much appreciated!
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Thanks crazy, Im not getting a triangle but my counter is definitely incremented from flashing cfw through odin. Looks like I'll be squared away soon, my thanks again! Much appreciated!
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What is cfw? And did you actually check the counter?
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What is cfw? And did you actually check the counter?
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unofficial firmware. and I checked the counter in ODIN after using the flash reset and it is back to 'NO'. I am assuming flashing a stock firmware using a recovery tar will no retrip the counter, so i am good? Thank you !
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unofficial firmware. and I checked the counter in ODIN after using the flash reset and it is back to 'NO'. I am assuming flashing a stock firmware using a recovery tar will no retrip the counter, so i am good? Thank you !
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Using the official tar from sammobile will not trip the counter. You are good.
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the only way you could of tripped the counter was by flashing koanes tar rom from way back in the i727 early development or similiar modded roms which there are none that tripped the counter in the past 12months or more. if you did trip the counter there is a reset fix in the 1stop sticky, triangle away wont work for our devices
to return to att just use odin to return to stock as it will replace everything you flashed and be completely stock, just follow the guides
Do you have to use Odin or will one of the cwm flashable stock JB Roms by Mohan + factory reset suffice?
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Do you have to use Odin or will one of the cwm flashable stock JB Roms by Mohan + factory reset suffice?
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I suppose you could do flashable zips but you still have to return to the stock recovery. I'm pretty sure there is a flashable stock recovery around somewhere.
Does it matter if the stock recovery is listed as an ICS stock recovery or will it work for JB also?
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Does it matter if the stock recovery is listed as an ICS stock recovery or will it work for JB also?
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It won't matter if it's ics or jb since there both officially released by att. You can find the stock firmware at sammobile.com. They're zip files and you'll need to extract the .tar.md5 file from them to use in odin. Use 7-zip to extract.
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