For the first time with ICS I think I like Rosie more than stock launcher... - HTC Sensation

After using the stock ICS launcher for a couple of hours to try it out, I have to say I actually think I like the new ICS Rosie launcher better than the stock Android launcher. Adding the new 5 icon doc bar is much improved. And the ICS google nav bar on every home screen just annoys me.

DeoreDX said:
And the ICS google nav bar on every home screen just annoys me.
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Just fyi. You can disable it in the stock ICS launcher.

You Mad brah?
AOSP > Sense. By a mile, sense looks well out dated with all its gloss. It's all about the minimal and matte effect.

I was really excited when I saw ICS roms. Now that I tried them I 'm thinking to go back to Ginger Elegance.
ICS with Sense 3.5 looks exactly like GB. Nothing so special about the long awaited ICS. Nothing obvious at least.
I'm gona try Ultimite 1.0 as soon as it's online to get a real creamy taste and probably revert back to Elegance.
Of course I want to thank all chefs for their excelent work.

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You Mad brah?
AOSP > Sense. By a mile, sense looks well out dated with all its gloss. It's all about the minimal and matte effect.
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Yeah, this is true. Sense looks so old and ugly now. ICS is all minimal, and Roboto...such a good font!

when i first rooted my Desire with CM5 (i thin it was 5), within a few days all i wanted was sense back...since then i've always chosen sense roms and i'm pretty sure i'll continue to...so i de facto agree with you

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when i first rooted my Desire with CM5 (i thin it was 5), within a few days all i wanted was sense back...since then i've always chosen sense roms and i'm pretty sure i'll continue to...so i de facto agree with you
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Think CM6 was first one for desire.

the stock launcher for ICS is annoying - it condenses all the information too much. For example, on the Sensation, adding a 4x3 Plume or APW widget gives you the same amount of space as a 4x2 widget on Rosie or any other launcher. Plus, while you can disable the search bar in the ICS launcher, there's still an unusable 4x1 blank space there. Plus, the side margins on the screen are far too wide.
I can understand why they're there on a large, high-resolution screen like that of the Galaxy Nexus, but it makes no sense on a smaller, lower-resolution screen.
I'm looking forward to seeing what the CM team comes up with for Trebuchet, but in its current state, it's still wasteful with space

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What does everyone think about HTC sense?

I just was curious to see what you all thought of the sense integration with android. I have had many android phones, this is my first HTC phone. Whenever I got a new android device the first thing I would do is customize everything to the way I liked it. This always started with a Google search on rooting it to get a custom rom. Mainly cause I could and I liked the differences.
I have to say that I am happy with this phone. I have been using it the way it came out of the box. I think that the sense has made the already good android system even better. Perhaps its gingerbread doing its work as well for a good experience. This phone plain and simple just works. Multi tasking is very reliable unlike most of my expierences with other android devices (COUGH...G2x...COUGH) No issues to date. The phone and the phone interface is excellent IMO. I don't even think I will root it when its able to be done. Perhaps only to have recovery option available. Thumbs up too HTC!!
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hate it. ADW launcher FTW.
I like sense, but it seems really resourse intensive, pretty sure u can achieve the same eye candy less power hungry. Still need root, to remove the crapware that came with the phone.
Sense 3.0 is a LOT better than previous versions, only other launcher worth looking at is LauncherPro IMO
Sense suxs for me...like other launchers much better!
I like certain aspects of Sense like the text app, contacts app and clock app but I think HTC is going in the wrong direction with its UI. They are digging further into Android and in my opinion, adding to much eye candy.
I never though I'd say it but Samsung is moving in the right direction with Touch Wiz by minimalizing the nonsense animations and adding slight improvements to Android.
I loaded ADW onto the Sensation and haven't looked back. It made this phone faster than my G2X.
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I like Sense 3.0 though I do wish they would optimize it a bit.
i like the way sense works. I had a galaxy s 4g for a little and i didn't like the interface as much as sense. Only thing i liked better was the better looking messaging app. The htc one looks so cheap and boring.
I really like sense and I wouldnt buy an android device without it at this time.
I believe that sense will get better with time and with the fact that HTC in releasing the sense SDK
I like sense~~~beautiful!!~
but seems that it has a big power consumption
Personally, I don't like Sense. It's the biggest reason I want a custom rom on this phone. I agree with jrwingate6's comments on TouchWiz, but I'm an AOSP guy.
Sense 3.0 is definitely an upgrade. With previous versions of Sense, I couldn't use them on my HD2 because of the pocket call answer / decline problem (I would always decline calls because my leg would slide up on the screen when I pulled the phone out). I like the Sense lockscreen and the widgets, however, I'm using LauncherPro Plus right now. I can't deal with the inability to resize widgets and not set the number of rows / columns on each screen. Running LauncherPro also seems to have sped up the phone considerably.
I am not a fan of sense, though I do like the lock screen, app draw and running apps in the notification. I find that the additional animations sounds and other beauty aspects really hinder the performance of the phone. I am currently using golauncher.
Can't wait for root to de-bloat and remove a good portion or all of sense.
After never having an android phone that had sense on it, I have to say I like it. It's different sure, and it might be a little over the top, but I still like it. If you're going to have a skin on your phone i'd choose skin over any other in a heart beat. That's just my opinion though.
I love the aesthetics of Sense but it is too much of a resource hog and apparently very glitchy. I like what HTC did with the mail client, SMS application, weather and a few other standout features but the UX overall just doesn't seem optimized for the dual-core processors.
I also notices something today...I replaced the stock keyboard with another one I found on the market and guess what, the scrolling speed has dramatically improved! I use ADW launcher and now my app drawer and home screens scroll just as smoothly as my HD2 with Hyperdroid android 2.3. Go figure.
For the most part I really like sense. The weather clock, the contacts widgets, the notification tray with quick settings and running programs. The camera ap. The contact/social networking integration. Much of the skinning they do. Features like putting the phone face down to turn on the speaker phone. Adjusting call volume in/out of the pocket, when th ephone is moved, etc. All that I really like.
The sound fx for the weather I hate. I also hate they waste screen real estate with the stupid "customize screen" button. Just let me long press on the screen if I want to add an icon or change the wallpaper. I'd love to be able to use that button for something else. I much prefer the customization that I can get from a 3rd party launcher like ADW Launcher.
I just wish I could use Sense widgets on ADW Launcher and I would be happy.
I like it, but I think it's waaaaaay too much. You can see this by the lag (I have it, sadly )
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I'm missing my MIUI from my Nexus one, the 5-way lockscreen on MIUI is pretty awesome.
On principal I like Sense 3.0 as it does look good and would be great if it wasn't such a hog. I'm more a minimalist though and obviously Sense 3.0 is the complete opposite.
I have disabled just about every sense feature i could and removed all sense widgets except for the weather as that is kinda cool looking if nothing else.
I have always loved the eye candy of sense but never used it on any of my phones because I like my phone to be as snappy and fast as possible and sense always seemed to bogg the phone down. In fact, this is the longest I've gone leaving sense on a phone. Usually right out of the box I root it and install a non sense rom. I really am liking sense 3.0 I think it will be better once they get the kinks worked out of it. It still is a resource hog but my phone doesnt appear as laggy as older sense versions/phones. While I cant wait until we get root and s-off to install a non sense rom/kernel I think I will miss 3.0 a bit. I've tried using adw ex on my sensation (used it on all my phones and tablets and LOVED it) but I keep going back to the eye candy of sense 3.0
This time even with s-off and rooted I might stay with a sense 3.0 rom and just overclock that *****
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This time even with s-off and rooted I might stay with a sense 3.0 rom and just overclock that *****
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Nice!!
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why sense 3.0. i wish a actually sense 2.1 rom

hi guys,
why have all the focus on sense 3.0 roms?
i prefer sense 2.1. i use at the moment the lbc 0.60 mod with unity v4 kernel
in my eyes the best sense 2.1 rom.
is it possible to make a sense 2.1 rom in mix with actually ota from htc or using the newest kernels like unity v9 or else.
thx
Mix with ota sure possible, but yet not build as much as i know.
Unity v9 you can use, anyway it fits better than tiamat, cause unity is build for sense roms and tiamat for aosp roms
I'm quite surprised that that kernel works with sense!?
Nothings wrong with Sense v2.1 and LBC IMO was best implementation of it - I've not long come from it myself, although even LBC's next ROM will be pure sense 3.0 - showing that times change and things move on!
The reason why the direction has moved towards Sense v3.0 is as a result of the official release and the fact that the devs have tweaked it so that it runs as fast if not smoother than Sense v2.1 did, with more eye candy!
They just need to work on battery life!
sorry. i'm using unity v4. i have changed first post
I agree with original poster.. i love sense 3 but i hate the carussel.. i wish there was a way to disable it and use the 2.1 method
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I agree with original poster.. i love sense 3 but i hate the carussel.. i wish there was a way to disable it and use the 2.1 method
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You need to try more Sense v3.0 ROMS the degree that the carousel spins varies across the ROMs and in some is even turn on and off'able.
I personally really like the way that I can scroll in a full circle - a huge improvement on having to go left or right then stopping, but, I don't think that the carousel effect is completely necessary.
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I agree with original poster.. i love sense 3 but i hate the carussel.. i wish there was a way to disable it and use the 2.1 method
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I also hate the nuisance spinning carousel. It's a prime example of form over function. If you want a good Sense 3.0 ROM where this has been inhibited, I can recommend BinDroid. It's not been turned off, just damped right down so it's actually quite hard to go into an eyeroll-inducing home-screen spin-out.
I actually hate the whole screen switching thing. I prefer the side to side switch of 2.1
Must admit I like the carousel ,rather than having to flick backwards and forwards ,it's just case of moving on around
Went to cyanogenmod and never looked back.
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Must admit I like the carousel ,rather than having to flick backwards and forwards ,it's just case of moving on around
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No, I like that feature too, but the carousel is the pretty annoying animation where by the screens just spin round in mini size! whizzing by just eye candy but pointless except use CPU and therefore burn battery!
I would have agreed with the OP a few months back
I disliked the sense 3.0 aswell. I tried virtuous unity, it was slow AND laggy.
But since then, sense 3.0 has been desgined for single core now. And it is very well optimized for pur phones.
I don't really mind the carousel.. ive gotten used to it now.
The real things I like about 3.0 are the deeper integration, keyboard new sense apps etc.
What looks.nice now is sense 3.5 want to give it a go soon!
Do any of you notice any significant changes in battery life between 2.1 vs 3.0?
I don't!
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is it possible to mix 2.1 apk and widgets with 3.0? so i make my personal rom. i think i have to study "how to cook a rom"
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I agree with original poster.. i love sense 3 but i hate the carussel.. i wish there was a way to disable it and use the 2.1 method
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wnp_79 said:
I also hate the nuisance spinning carousel. It's a prime example of form over function. If you want a good Sense 3.0 ROM where this has been inhibited, I can recommend BinDroid. It's not been turned off, just damped right down so it's actually quite hard to go into an eyeroll-inducing home-screen spin-out.
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I actually hate the whole screen switching thing. I prefer the side to side switch of 2.1
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ben_pyett said:
No, I like that feature too, but the carousel is the pretty annoying animation where by the screens just spin round in mini size! whizzing by just eye candy but pointless except use CPU and therefore burn battery!
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Try VoidU, the carousel is a little hard to spin in a full circle and over all a good ROM.
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Try VoidU, the carousel is a little hard to spin in a full circle and over all a good ROM.
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Yeah, noticed that when I tried comparing spinning on hyperion and VoidU
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ben_pyett said:
No, I like that feature too, but the carousel is the pretty annoying animation where by the screens just spin round in mini size! whizzing by just eye candy but pointless except use CPU and therefore burn battery!
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ahh but that is just down to how fast you flick it ,it's not the de-facto way of doing it

Resolve for ICS displeasure

Looks like the aftermarket has been working hard on Android 4.0 compatibility because I was able to install both the ADWLauncher EX and LauncherPro Plus launchers on my ICS phone and they work fine. I chose to stay with ADWLauncher EX because of looking much more like the original ICS UI and allowing the same folder creation as in ICS. And the dock looks much the same. The only drawback is the lack of the search bar at the top. I prefer it.
Usability wise, these launchers completely smooth out ICS to buttery goodness. ADWLauncher EX allows for scrolling speed adjustment that makes a quick flick a pleasurable experience, no lag to be suffered anywhere. Both launchers bring back the more desired widget choosing function of previous Androids...tap & hold on homescreen.
It's really pleasing now. You get the functional goodness of ICS (excellent multitasker, softkeys and all that ICS brings performance-wise without the troubling UI performance issues.
Oh, and you get to use the OEM scrollable widgets.
Oh dear... And now you're back to liking ICS. You're quite impulsive with your opinions, what will it be tomorrow?
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Looks like the aftermarket has been working hard on Android 4.0 compatibility because I was able to install both the ADWLauncher EX and LauncherPro Plus launchers on my ICS phone and they work fine. I chose to stay with ADWLauncher EX because of looking much more like the original ICS UI and allowing the same folder creation as in ICS. And the dock looks much the same. The only drawback is the lack of the search bar at the top. I prefer it.
Usability wise, these launchers completely smooth out ICS to buttery goodness. ADWLauncher EX allows for scrolling speed adjustment that makes a quick flick a pleasurable experience, no lag to be suffered anywhere. Both launchers bring back the more desired widget choosing function of previous Androids...tap & hold on homescreen.
It's really pleasing now. You get the functional goodness of ICS (excellent multitasker, softkeys and all that ICS brings performance-wise without the troubling UI performance issues.
Oh, and you get to use the OEM scrollable widgets.
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I have a great setup on an Evo I modded for someone with Launcher Pro skinned to look exactly like ICS, on a CM7 ROM with Theme Chooser set to an ICS theme. It looks and feels amazing.
I don't think I will ever use stock launcher on an aosp device, it's so funny how 3rd party launcher guys make it so much smoother than google does.
ICS as an OS, although I like it, is starting a trend I don't like as "user friendly" to the point where things are harder to deal with. I actually prefer GB style widget adding instead of the HC sort and ICS sort where you swype the dock to get to the widgets. Other things like that. I don't know, maybe I just need to get used to it.
This should go in your other thread about ICS being a letdown, rather than starting a new one. Would you raise that for a mod please?
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This should go in your other thread about ICS being a letdown, rather than starting a new one. Would you raise that for a mod please?
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Have a look at that thread...I won't spoil it for you, go take a look.
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Have a look at that thread...I won't spoil it for you, go take a look.
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I see it was quite rightly closed.
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What I meant was that you should not have started this thread. Please ask a mod to merge them or close this one.
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Wow...really? You didn't see that the other thread was closed??
Apologies for seeming insensitive.
Duhh..i thought the biggest new thing about ICS would have been the ability to have a decent experience out of the box, knowing that i can change the launcher doesn't impress me much. Tbh 2.3 had already nearly all of the functions i needed, what i really wanted was a smoother and simplified ui, with less workarounds to be used, and at the end of the day it doesn't seems like ICS is really bringing that stuff to the user. Just my 2 cents.
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Duhh..i thought the biggest new thing about ICS would have been the ability to have a decent experience out of the box, knowing that i can change the launcher doesn't impress me much. Tbh 2.3 had already nearly all of the functions i needed, what i really wanted was a smoother and simplified ui, with less workarounds to be used, and at the end of the day it doesn't seems like ICS is really bringing that stuff to the user. Just my 2 cents.
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I tend to agree, I like 2.3 with a custom launcher over 4.x with stock launcher any day.
I just did a clean install of Android 4.0.3 on my HD2 and the difference is night and day. It is sublime. So buttery smooth and fast. The Galaxy Nexus is now back on the table and a wanted piece of hardware.
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I just did a clean install of Android 4.0.3 on my HD2 and the difference is night and day. It is sublime. So buttery smooth and fast. The Galaxy Nexus is now back on the table and a wanted piece of hardware.
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Does it compare well to the ui smoothness of wp7 as not having ics myself I am curious?
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mistermentality said:
Does it compare well to the ui smoothness of wp7 as not having ics myself I am curious?
Dave
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Not with the stock UI. It approaches iPhone smooth, but not WP7 smooth. But I am using ADW EX launcher and with that, it is WP7 smooth. I was using ADW on 4.0.2 and it made ICS very usable. But with 4.0.3, the difference is spectacular, to put it modestly.
Wish we could get this for Samsung Tab 10.1's already.
I'm liking the stock launcher. My Nexus runs like a champ.
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I'm liking the stock launcher. My Nexus runs like a champ.
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Yeah, the stock launcher is really, really good. The best stock launcher of any of the Nexus'. I just find more convenience with ADW and it looks almost exactly the same...configured the right way.
I'm a huge fan of how smooth ICS is, regardless of the launcher. I've not messed around with Honeycomb too much, so going from Gingerbread to ICS is a huge jump for me in terms of appearance and performance.
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Not with the stock UI. It approaches iPhone smooth, but not WP7 smooth. But I am using ADW EX launcher and with that, it is WP7 smooth. I was using ADW on 4.0.2 and it made ICS very usable. But with 4.0.3, the difference is spectacular, to put it modestly.
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Its not because of changes in adw then? Would love to know what they changed to make the difference but glad they did it.
Dave
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Its not because of changes in adw then? Would love to know what they changed to make the difference but glad they did it.
Dave
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It dawns on me that the quality and pleasure I'm experiencing now could be something entirely to do with Tytung's efforts with his custom ROM rather than a reality of the 4.0.3 OEM.
ADW is exactly the same between the two version. I can't see them making any changes from one to the next in such a short period of time. Not saying it's impossible, just saying unlikely. With this custom ROM, I actually updated to 4.0.3 initially rather than do a clean install. Even with an update 4.0.3 was noticeably smoother. Only until I did a clean install did I experience the speed and buttery smoothness of 4.0.3. It is a dramatic difference.
Well,you can even try GoLauncher on ICS and it'll be buttery smooth too,whereas in Gingerbread it's nowhere near the other launchers in terms of smoothness(Unless you own a 1.6GHz Galaxy S II ).Hardware acceleration does good after all.And some under-the-hood improvements in 4.0.3 are what makes it as good.Wait for some proper roms and you'll see(Not that Tytung's rom or any other ICS rom isn't good,but none of them is final,rather something like being in beta phase).
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It dawns on me that the quality and pleasure I'm experiencing now could be something entirely to do with Tytung's efforts with his custom ROM rather than a reality of the 4.0.3 OEM.
ADW is exactly the same between the two version. I can't see them making any changes from one to the next in such a short period of time. Not saying it's impossible, just saying unlikely. With this custom ROM, I actually updated to 4.0.3 initially rather than do a clean install. Even with an update 4.0.3 was noticeably smoother. Only until I did a clean install did I experience the speed and buttery smoothness of 4.0.3. It is a dramatic difference.
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So maybe tytung somehows trims down ics to remove problem issues?
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CM7 vs Sense as of today.

what would be the opinion on this matters as of today in reference to the latest roms,
Sense. if you want a good UI, definitely go for Sense. i'm not saying roms like CM7 are bad, but they're just a little.. well ugly IMO. but of course, if you are looking for speed and battery saving, then AOSP roms are the best option. not saying that Sense is a great battery hog. in fact, i got well over two days, with still about 40% remaining. moderate usage, heavy internet browsing using 3G/4G, semi heavy texting. now of course, AOSP roms could probably get wayy better than that, but i go for looks of the UI.
what would we the best sense rom right now ?
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Sense. if you want a good UI, definitely go for Sense. i'm not saying roms like CM7 are bad, but they're just a little.. well ugly IMO. but of course, if you are looking for speed and battery saving, then AOSP roms are the best option. not saying that Sense is a great battery hog. in fact, i got well over two days, with still about 40% remaining. moderate usage, heavy internet browsing using 3G/4G, semi heavy texting. now of course, AOSP roms could probably get wayy better than that, but i go for looks of the UI.
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I can throw a Sense theme on LauncherPro and mess with some settings to make AOSP look exactly like Sense without all the bloat. sure it might give you a little more eye candy with all the nice widgets, but just eats up the battery. not trying to diss your post or anything like that, just my opinion
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depends on which version of Sense youre wanting to use
Sense 3.0 - Virtuous Unity v2.39
Sense 3.5 - RCMix3d Runny v4.0
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IMO? i would say Sense 3.5.
though if you want less buggy and more stable, then Sense 3.0 is the way to go.
Sense 3.5: RCMix3D or DARKSIDE SENSE 3.5
Sense 3.0: Virtuous Unity
Today, like yesterday, like 1/2 year ago, on this specific phone - Sense vs CM is a matter of personal preference. Both do the job just fine, both have good and bad points. Overall decision is up to the person. Sense has much more functionality, usefulness, prettiness and built-in "gadgets", CM has much more customizability and "clean" Android feel.
My personal preference - after spending enough time with Nexus One, I've learned to appreciate Sense usefulness.
i been running cm7.1 but i guess ill give it a try to sense see how it suite my needs
cubanito08 said:
i been running cm7.1 but i guess ill give it a try to sense see how it suite my needs
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IMHO, and i know people will disagree with me.
Sense is like a fat girl on a tri-cycle. It takes a whole ton of effort to not go very far. And it's really not all that good looking.
AOSP, such as CM, is like a super model, plain jane it's kind of boring. But once it's all dolled up. Man there is nothing prettier.
neidlinger said:
IMHO, and i know people will disagree with me.
Sense is like a fat girl on a tri-cycle. It takes a whole ton of effort to not go very far. And it's really not all that good looking.
AOSP, such as CM, is like a super model, plain jane it's kind of boring. But once it's all dolled up. Man there is nothing prettier.
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If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
I used to like Sense a lot, well maybe I still do, but I still go with CM for performance and select a good launcher, then I go to my color screen . com for inspiration on how to make my screen look good.
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IMHO, and i know people will disagree with me.
Sense is like a fat girl on a tri-cycle. It takes a whole ton of effort to not go very far. And it's really not all that good looking.
AOSP, such as CM, is like a super model, plain jane it's kind of boring. But once it's all dolled up. Man there is nothing prettier.
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I would completely agree with this analogy.
On another note, MIUI is a AOSP ROM with a unique, beautiful look and the great speed and battery life of an AOSP ROM. Give all ROMs a try. In my opinion, I preferred:
MIUI > CM7 > Sense
But that's just me.
I've been using Sense for quite a time. Really love the function auto link contact.
My question is, if I can get some thing similar in CM7 rom? I mean, CM7.2 rc0 from TDJ?
I don't see how Sense looks any better than a good themed launcher on Cyanogen. It's all a matter of tastes. This is like arguing vanilla is better than chocolate or vice versa.
Because you're looking at the launcher. Look deeper: notification bar w/ settings, phone, mail, settings menu, etc. No matter what you do with CM, to the capabilities of Sense you won't get, or even anywhere near. Too many things in too many places are head and shoulders above what plain Android or CM have to offer, functionality-wise. I bet that 90% of those not understanding what Sense is about, never used 10% of what it has to offer under the hood - small things, but a lot of them, which makes using the phone that much more comfortable. I've made a list once, what Sense has above AOSP/CM/MIUI that can be added by 3rd party apps, and what it has that can't be added by anything. I'm too lazy to write it another time, you can search for it.
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Because you're looking at the launcher. Look deeper: notification bar w/ settings, phone, mail, settings menu, etc. No matter what you do with CM, to the capabilities of Sense you won't get, or even anywhere near. Too many things in too many places are head and shoulders above what plain Android or CM have to offer, functionality-wise. I bet that 90% of those not understanding what Sense is about, never used 10% of what it has to offer under the hood - small things, but a lot of them, which makes using the phone that much more comfortable. I've made a list once, what Sense has above AOSP/CM/MIUI that can be added by 3rd party apps, and what it has that can't be added by anything. I'm too lazy to write it another time, you can search for it.
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well said.
examples of apps/things that Sense has that can be never added on an AOSP/MIUI ROM:
-Sense Camera app | you gotta admit, it's pretty amazing
-Facebook link feature | great feature that only Sense includes
-Sense Weather app/widget | true, there are a bunch of apps out there that copy it, but in the end, Sense does it best
-Sense Clock app/widget | very beautiful, like with the Sense Weather, many apps out there copy the Sense clock widget, but Sense still does it best.
So from what i gather, sense have the best camera out of CM7 and MIUI?
I havent flash a room since Darkside 3.1.0 and looking to flash new room but i get lost with so many rom out right now. Which rom would you recommend for having best camera? and what exactly is the different from 3.0 and 3.5 sense?
There are many more smaller things than the camera and widgets. I'll note a few:
The quick toggles notification panel is better and prettier than MIUI's, and CM is far behind.
The zooming glass is much more comfortable than standard Android pointer anywhere else.
Sense selection cursors in browser don't fail and "run away" from the real cursor where AOSP/CM/MIUI do.
Zoom capability in mail app.
Proper Exchange support (AFAIK, some servers refuse the regular Android client, used by both CM and MIUI, because it lacks several security features).
Ability to move mail between folders (this basic ability is missing from AOSP/CM/MIUI mail app).
Lockscreen with SMS/alarms/notifications/etc.
Much nicer tabs and favorites with preview in browser.
Generally better thought-of menus and buttons in UI for most internal apps.
As I wrote, lots of small things. But they matter for user experience much more than how the launcher looks.
i just can't do sense anymore after using cyanogenmod for so long, it feels so bloated and closed down. after using miui with an ics theme I'm not sure if anythjg but an ics rom will satisfy me. I'm just too used ro having clean homescreens thanks to folders.
tldr; try them yourself.
Virtuous Team Ends Unity
On my twitter feed this morning, I noticed a posting by the Virtuous Team for the new year.
http://www.virtuousrom.com/2012/01/happy-new-year.html
Officially, work on Unity has been conculeded and with it work on Sense 3.0. Continued work on Affinity is TBD.
Based on that, I can't help but feel that highly polished Sense Custom Roms will fall behind for a little while.
I like all the cameras, they all seem good to me.
It will come down to personal preference but I have come to keep a backup of CM, Sense and MIUI installs, soon to have ICS after camera fix I am sure.
Have your cake and eat it too!

[Q] Which Launcher for ICS (namely IceColdSandwich)

I appreciate that this is a question that is probably down to personal preference. But, being mostly a Sense man myself, my man exposure to ASOP ROMs has only been on GB (Reaper) so I've primarily only played with the FTL Launcher that comes bundled with that ROM.
Having read the latest changelog from IceCreamSandwich this morning and having a couple of free hours this weekend (Shhh....don't tell the wife I just said that) I thought that I'd give it a go. Now I'm confused, as straight out of the box I get a two launcher choice from Nova and Trebuchet? Please can I have people opinions on which is the best choice, or should I just stick with FTL (Faster than Light)....(Pro) that I'm used to from GB?
I've attempted to put a Poll along with this thread, but would be keen on people's opinions and comments also.....pros/cons etc and personal experiences...
Thanks as always in advance.
My personal opinion (for what little it's worth) is to stick with FTL. I have also bought the pro version and am even more impressed with what Lowveld has managed to build in to V3.
I am interested in ICS only in as much as it can give me a stable, faster phone system - but I have no interest at all in changing the way my phone actually looks (other than possibly getting the Sense v4 weather widget integrated properly).
I am also really looking forward to a stable base for ICS as I've got no doubt that Lowveld will build a full version of Reaper ICS - which will blow anything else clean out of the water.
Yeah I had a hard time deciding on ICS.
I decided to stick with Trebuchet though, because it was simpler and easier to use. Also this is the official launcher that CM9 are going to be using, so I wanted to get a good taste of it.
Nova launcher is nice, it has loads and loads of features.
But I Decided to go with trebuchet and removed nova via titanium backup .
Just play with each one for 10 minutes and see which suits you best!
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If you want a pure ics launcher with many features, try nova or apex (I personally prefer nova, but there isn't a big difference between them as far as I can see).
If all is about speed, stick with ftl (but must confess that I also noticed no lags with nova while using it).
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I don't see much difference between the launchers, so i just use trebuchet, because it's the simplest
Also, I found some good replacements to HTC Sense widgets for AOSP ROMs, the 4x2 clock from sense 4 has been 'ported' to all ROMs, so that's clearly the best. APW has people and messaging widgets but they look horrible, thankfully, you can add skins. Use the Modern ICS Skin, looks beautiful. Use haxsync for contact pictures. For the 4x4 weather widget, use weatherlove. All these are on the market, I'll post links when i get home.
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Simon.TS.HTC said:
My personal opinion (for what little it's worth) is to stick with FTL. I have also bought the pro version and am even more impressed with what Lowveld has managed to build in to V3.
I am interested in ICS only in as much as it can give me a stable, faster phone system - but I have no interest at all in changing the way my phone actually looks (other than possibly getting the Sense v4 weather widget integrated properly).
I am also really looking forward to a stable base for ICS as I've got no doubt that Lowveld will build a full version of Reaper ICS - which will blow anything else clean out of the water.
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All opinions are welcome....just some should be ignored
If by Sense 4.0 weather widget you mean clock/weather widget then check out these apps. There is the 4x1 and 4x2 (sense 3.5 and 4.0) widgets which are superb and if I was completely honest the only reason why I'm now even trying ICS!!!!!
EDIT: Hadn't realised that I just said the same as Shrome99 (great minds)....and great find btw!
My personal preference goes to GO Launcher. I used ADW Launcher (paid) before, I have tried others as well (Nova, Apex, Trebunchet) but GO Launcher seemed to be the one packing the most functions. Also I had no issues or lag with it
I personally prefer Apex Launcher. I have also tried Nova and Trebuchet. With Nova Laucher there are a lot of features which I don't need. So that makes the launcher too complex for my use. The trebuchet launcher on the other hand is way simpler and you get a better overview. On the downside I was missing some features here (e.g. hide apps/widgets from drawer; might have overlooked it or it has been added in the meantime). Therefore Apex is best choice for me as in term of simplicity and useful features. Also this launcher is very smooth for me, smoother than Nova (when testing in ICS 6.0) IMO.
Trebuchet is the best for me. I found it was the quickest of the three (nova and apex) and that's all I want from a launcher
Also i dont like using gingerbread launchers on ICS. Ruins the look for me
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Choice is big, but in my opinion FTL and APEX launchers are the best. Why? Because they are the fastest and smoothest for my device. In addition both have features that I need.
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Also i dont like using gingerbread launchers on ICS. Ruins the look for me
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Yeah, I kinda agree with you. On GB, I use ADW EX pro, but on ICS it doesn't suit it
The scrolling horizontally on ICS is much better. Putting a launcher like ADW is kind of a backward step on ICS
Maybe soon, lowveld might base FTL on the stock launcher from ICS?
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Maybe soon, lowveld might base FTL on the stock launcher from ICS?
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Now I like the sound of that, although imagine that won't be his top priority as the Call Screen application is proving popular and consuming most of his time at the moment
if we wait for a month , Sense 4.0 is the best launcher for ics
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if we wait for a month , Sense 4.0 is the best launcher for ics
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Sense 4.0 isn't a launcher, it's a whole framework and the Rosie.apk (which is the launcher) from it can't be used on senseless roms like cyanogen.
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I am currently using Nova but will try apex soon
Just tried ftl launcher on ics and unfortunately I was disappointed. on ics it doesn't run that smooth I was expecting it to be
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Just tried Apex Launcher, and immediately fell in love. It is much more customizations and has more Settings than all other ICS launchers combined. You can set custom app drawer transparency, disable haptic feedback when pressing the app drawer button (was looking for this ever since i used ICS), there's a scrolling dock, gestures and HTC Sense like preview screens. This is just a small list, there's a lot more that i didn't post (it would make a loooong list ). The best thing is, you can backup these settings to your SD Card so you don't have to do this all over again when you flash a new ROM.
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Just tried Apex Launcher, and immediately fell in love. It is much more customizations and has more Settings than all other ICS launchers combined. You can set custom app drawer transparency, disable haptic feedback when pressing the app drawer button (was looking for this ever since i used ICS), there's a scrolling dock, gestures and HTC Sense like preview screens. This is just a small list, there's a lot more that i didn't post (it would make a loooong list ). The best thing is, you can backup these settings to your SD Card so you don't have to do this all over again when you flash a new ROM.
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brilliant, after checking on the polls results, I also recently tried out apex on AKOP blindICE and had come to exactly the same conclusion, although hadn't spied the backup function, now that without a doubt is the deal beaker!
Also love the fact that you have five icons across the screen and resize widgets, still loving the sense 3.5 4x1 clock
Why htc haven't added a backup feature to Rosie, that works across versions I've no idea, it wouldn't be too complex and it would save us so much time. Titanium backup is only so useful
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@Ben_pyett you can backup the Scenes via titanium backup, so if you want to backup your home screen layout, just make a new scene, edit it the way you want and back it up. It won't work across sense versions though, a Sense 4 scene will only work on sense 4, not 3.x
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@Ben_pyett you can backup the Scenes via titanium backup, so if you want to backup your home screen layout, just make a new scene, edit it the way you want and back it up. It won't work across sense versions though, a Sense 4 scene will only work on sense 4, not 3
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Yep, we're talking across purposes, I didn't quite explain myself properly above, I meant just that, TB is only so useful, but as we're now jumping across sense versions so often, not that much use
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