1-14-11 Update: Some, remain disappointed that the ICS update remains in flux prior to its release on the G2x phone series.
I have carefully updated the FAQ below to address all the concerns raised in the various replies. Hopefully to those critical, your thorough review of differences and key updates in the FAQ, as reflected below, shall meet with your satisfaction.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Here it is: The ICS release on the G2X FAQ.
QUESTION: Has the CM team said they are working on it, and they will release it free of charge when its done?
ANSWER: YES
QUESTION: LG has basically said that the entire series of phones released on the G2x reference platform will all be getting ICS, so LG will release ICS for the G2x, and the only factor is now total time right?
ANSWER: Yes yes yes yes yes. The G2x is getting ICS.
QUESTION: So basically ICS is coming to the G2x from both official and unofficial channels.
ANSWER: YES
QUESTION: Will you tell me when ICS for the G2X. done, and post a thread announcing it, and allow me to download it and use ICS.
ANSWER: YES
QUESTION: Is it done yet? Is ICS ready for the G2x now? Now? How about now? waiting waiting NOW? I just heard a new rumor that it running and ready and its ready and I just want to confirm is it finally done now?
ANSWER: NO
QUESTION: I was told that being a total butt-wipe and protesting and saying that I will boycott LG and Nvidia is going to help the developers These butt-wipes want me to go in and start wiping with them. Will this help get ICS on the G2x faster.
ANSWER: NO.
QUESTION: I would like a fresh update on the status of the ICS build for the G2x....so.....IS THE ICS UPDATE READY NOW?????
ANSWER: NO.
QUESTION: I have suddenly become aware that the ICS update has been released, that everyone is using it, and that there has been no public posting about how to download the new ICS update. Can I have it now since you are all using it.
ANSWER: Its not ready, and NO.
QUESTION: I am really wanting this ICS, can I have the ALPHA BETA ANDROMEDA Strain testing version now.
ANSWER: NO, when its ready you can have it.
QUESTION: Hey guess what phone X just got ICS up and working, but the G2x does not. I think our developers suck. I am going to create a thread that blames Nvidia for this shameful delay, but anyone reading between the lines will see that I think our developers suck, and that all the good developers are working on other phones. Sooooo would starting a thread to shame the developers for not being all that good be a way to get ICS on the my G2x faster.
ANSWER: NO.
QUESTION: Phone Z just got it, looks like we are going to be 3rd and at least 6 days after phone Z, this sucks, I just started a thread saying the same, and have posted excessively on 6 other similar threads. This is helpful and helping the developers right?
ANSWER: Wrong.
QUESTION: I have no need for any of the new features on ICS, but want to overclock my G2x with ICS so as I can post my high numbers for benchmark scores. Since I am a real power-user right along with Pi using the phone to the fullest, can I get a special early release of ICS.
ANSWER: NO
QUESTION: Ready it is! Now?
ANSWER: NO. And that is the worst Yoda impersonation.
QUESTION: I have more questions, except they are already answered, would it help if ask again, start a new thread maybe.
ANSWER: NO
QUESTION: I have just one more question so let me start it this way....
ANSWER: Its not done yet.
QUESTION: How about now?
ANSWER: NO
Note: For others wanting to re-purpose this FAQ for their phones, a shout-out for tombaker would be nice.
Dude, this is great. One question though-
Is the ICS build done yet?
No!
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium
LOL
Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks for the laughs!
how about now? can we have it?
Awesome! I really like the part about needing ics features. Don't misunderstand, I want ics as much as the next guy, but in reality my phone can already do everything I ask of it. I've played with a galaxy nexus and my phone does pretty much what it does, just goes about some of it a little different.
Sorry but I don't have the time to read through the whole thread and I just have one question or concern:
I've heard that ICS is ready for some devices so doesn't that mean that it's ready now? I just need a beta version for the facial recognition feature. I'm also going to start a thread flaming LG for not releasing an official version.
nice post. however, let me phrase it this way.. is..? hehe..
thanks for the updates!
I saw a YouTube video of the g2x running ics. Can I haz now
Also lg hates us g2x owners so I will make a petition to let them know we bought there phone. Since they announced a ics release for all there other phones they must hate g2x really bad.
Sent from my NookColor using xda premium
if they cant figure it out by now, i think it will be very long wait because they trying to find out. i told you i bought the wrong phone. hd2 ftw hahaha more roms and more better faster developers/
Please read the OP. It says it all. It is not ready NOW. It will be released when and only when it is ready. Give them time to get it right.
GTWalling said:
Please read the OP. It says it all. It is not ready NOW. It will be released when and only when it is ready. Give them time to get it right.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd have to say... Everyone but possibly tainle was being sarcastic.
I have to take issue with one part of this Faq...
That LG has said the 2X is getting ICS is not true - they *NEVER* said that the G2X will get it. You may disagree with me here, but this is an *important* distinction. Why?
1) T-Mobile has to REQUEST and APPROVE the update for it to happen.
2) T-Mobile has a history of NOT Requesting and Approving updates for devices with "nearly identical except for the radio" devices in the past - such as the Vibrant, which got no Gingerbread despite *every* other major Galaxy S variant having it.
Until LG specifically says "G2X" is getting ICS, I would put it into the column of "maybe" and not definitely.
lotherius said:
I have to take issue with one part of this Faq...
That LG has said the 2X is getting ICS is not true - they *NEVER* said that the G2X will get it. You may disagree with me here, but this is an *important* distinction. Why?
1) T-Mobile has to REQUEST and APPROVE the update for it to happen.
2) T-Mobile has a history of NOT Requesting and Approving updates for devices with "nearly identical except for the radio" devices in the past - such as the Vibrant, which got no Gingerbread despite *every* other major Galaxy S variant having it.
Until LG specifically says "G2X" is getting ICS, I would put it into the column of "maybe" and not definitely.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True, but they did say the O2x would get the update. It almost certainly wouldn't be stock, but devs on the forum have made it seem like it isn't the most difficult thing porting to the G2x. Mind you, I have absolutely no idea myself, so it could be very difficult. It's still probably easier than writing drivers or finding ways to hack the phone around existing already compiled ones.
EDIT: My bad, forgot that I've only seen ports from one to the other of CM7 based things like MIUI.
Danishswag said:
True, but they did say the O2x would get the update. It almost certainly wouldn't be stock, but devs on the forum have made it seem like it isn't the most difficult thing porting to the G2x. Mind you, I have absolutely no idea myself, so it could be very difficult. It's still probably easier than writing drivers or finding ways to hack the phone around existing already compiled ones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know which Devs said porting it would be easy, but so far NOBODY has been able to port G2X and O2X Roms either direction with stock LG Code. CM based Roms, YES, but Factory Stock, NO... The radio files are very different and all attempts to port - by some very talented Devs - have ended in a nice looking rom that can't make calls.
That's not to say that if ICS were the prize, someone couldn't come up with a way, but it's *still* not a guarantee.
EDIT:
Not trying to create drama or anything, but I just think that a FAQ should stick with the facts and not hopes.
lotherius said:
I don't know which Devs said porting it would be easy, but so far NOBODY has been able to port G2X and O2X Roms either direction with stock LG Code. CM based Roms, YES, but Factory Stock, NO... The radio files are very different and all attempts to port - by some very talented Devs - have ended in a nice looking rom that can't make calls.
That's not to say that if ICS were the prize, someone couldn't come up with a way, but it's *still* not a guarantee.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree, the carriers don't want interchangeability of phones with their competitors' services. That's why the radio frequencies are not shared, they're fragmented between the carriers as is Android for their phones. I only recently got an Android phone but I now realize that the Open Source promise is a fraud.
tainle said:
if they cant figure it out by now, i think it will be very long wait because they trying to find out. i told you i bought the wrong phone. hd2 ftw hahaha more roms and more better faster developers/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The faulty hardware of the HD2 is a plus also. You should include that next time.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium
There is at least potentially one P999 device sold as an Optimus 2X - by Wind Mobile. Potentially there may be another sold by Cincinnati Bell Wireless.
LG says ALL O2X devices are getting ICS. There is a P999 sold as O2X. How is there even debate over this? After getting sued once over failing to deliver a ROM update, do you think LG is really going to fool around with technicalities?
Thats probably something else to consider from LGs point of view. TMobile didn't get sued, LG did. If I were running LG, I would make very sure to fulfill my promises this time around.
lotherius said:
I have to take issue with one part of this Faq...
That LG has said the 2X is getting ICS is not true - they *NEVER* said that the G2X will get it. You may disagree with me here, but this is an *important* distinction. Why?
1) T-Mobile has to REQUEST and APPROVE the update for it to happen.
2) T-Mobile has a history of NOT Requesting and Approving updates for devices with "nearly identical except for the radio" devices in the past - such as the Vibrant, which got no Gingerbread despite *every* other major Galaxy S variant having it.
Until LG specifically says "G2X" is getting ICS, I would put it into the column of "maybe" and not definitely.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my LG-P999 using Tapatalk
There's a new version of Android out? How come no-one's talking about it?
But more seriously thanks to tombaker1 for the humorous post.
Core Memory said:
I agree, the carriers don't want interchangeability of phones with their competitors' services. That's why the radio frequencies are not shared, they're fragmented between the carriers as is Android for their phones. I only recently got an Android phone but I now realize that the Open Source promise is a fraud.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How is the android open source promise a fraud? I mean you do realize that they released ICS source right? Up until recently, they couldn't control what vendors did with their phones. Now, with Android being the most used phone OS, they have a little more control on everything.
A lot of people tend to blame Google/Android for the mistakes brought on with a company's phone. I know that an iPhone fanboy here at work made a comment everytime about Android when my G2x died, when it was obviously the phone itself.
Related
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3.html
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk
Oh my. +99
Sent from the future.
I await all ROMs with gingerbready Greatness!!
And to be honest, I thought we'd be a little ways into Jan before we seen the source code. Glad it took just 1 day after the Nexus S release. Now, the many-months wait for OEMs to get Official updates out to the devices =\
if that was sent from the future, that comment must mean that you are afraid for us because something is WRONG with gingerbread because you would have KNOWN about this already! LOL so HOW IS IT?!?!?
Yay!
Sent from my Epic 4G
Yet still no official 2.2 for us.... awesome.
Is this different from what was dropped last week?
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
How did GB source C drop before FroYo????????
If you are referring to what I posted, it was source code
For the Nexus S kernel Android version 2.3
And yes, pretty cute we have available source code for a new
OS before we seen a piece from any Android 2.2 source code for our Epic
jaaka78 said:
Is this different from what was dropped last week?
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk
Now for the million dollar question. What are you predictions for a working 2.3 rom for our Epics?
sprice5 said:
Now for the million dollar question. What are you predictions for a working 2.3 rom for our Epics?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Slow down, Sprice. Gotta get 2.2 first.
sprice5 said:
Now for the million dollar question. What are you predictions for a working 2.3 rom for our Epics?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the million dollar question is what are the predictions for an official 2.2
rom for our Epics? jk but I think after samsung and sprint gets ahold of it first.
Otherwise it would be another AOSP like cyanogen.
I've got a related (and hopefully not stupid) question regarding the process.
So, I know we're waiting for the 2.2 kernel source for our epics, obviously.
Generally, what's the process in between Google dropping a version's source, and it being released (by samsung) to us? This is not a complaint-- I'm really just curious how it works.
decalex said:
I've got a related (and hopefully not stupid) question regarding the process.
So, I know we're waiting for the 2.2 kernel source for our epics, obviously.
Generally, what's the process in between Google dropping a version's source, and it being released (by samsung) to us? This is not a complaint-- I'm really just curious how it works.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know someone can explain better than I can.
Google drops the stock rom. This wont run on our phones without drivers, and support for specific hardware for our device. Then you have Sprint carrier modifications like VVM, ota updates, 4G and other configured apps. After all the work is done, developers can go back and modify things to their liking.
Otherwise you would have a from the ground up like CM,
where its a lot of trial and error, getting the ROM to support hardware/software.
sprice5 said:
Now for the million dollar question. What are you predictions for a working 2.3 rom for our Epics?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm no developer or expert, but i'd give it a week or two before we see a slew of ROMs, maybe less. Its great that Cyanogen has 4G working on the Evo, so cant wait for 4G-enabled CM6/7 for our Epics. As for an official 2.3 update from Samsung.... March is my earliest guess
hayabusa1300cc said:
I think the million dollar question is what are the predictions for an official 2.2
rom for our Epics? jk but I think after samsung and sprint gets ahold of it first.
Otherwise it would be another AOSP like cyanogen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd say we get official 2.2 updates in a few weeks. The leak is out, so they are probably just cleaning it up for release. The plain-jane (no custom ROM) leak works flawlessly on my phone tho.
At this point Noobnl is going to deliver faster than Samsung is on the Froyo. He's got CM pretty much done it seems. Whenever Cyanogen's done with gingerbread source for CM7(im presuming) noobnl will hopefully start on that as well.
I bet that the hardware drivers for 2.2 will work with 2.3, sounds like 2.2 to 2.3 is a lot less of a change than 2.1 to 2.2, but I could be wrong.
sent from my nexus s with a keyboard
For Samsung it's more rational for them to use their dev's time to spend on making new working firmware for new devices that are debuting at CES and to ready the firmware for those devices.
Samsung's strategy has changed over the years and is now executing the mantra "first out the door with new technology." While this is great for those of us who like new toys, it's a set back when we want long term support for our new toys. If their R&D resources are tied up working out new firmware for the next gen, they lose focus on their current customers.
If you've kept up on the latest engadget, gizmodo, boy genius, etc etc news - you'll know there's a dual core super duper galaxy whatever chip coming out soon. That's where the resources are now. For a company that has been lagging behind in innovation for the last few years in the mobile area, this is their new direction... Innovate quickly and be the first to market. Support resources are but a second thought; overhead.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...uct-crisis-as-choi-tries-to-triple-sales.html might give you a better perspective of the company.
So if I am reading this right....
Once we have CM6 running on our epics it will be a lot easier for us to get Gingerbread installed; for that matter any new verisions?
Does this really need to be in the Epic section?
So its going to be released pretty soon.. what are the odds of the Captivate getting some love?
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/19/in...axy-nexus-and-ice-cream-sandwich-android-4-0/
Unfortunately, I'm going to have to go with 'Nil.'
The chances are non existent. It just makes business sense for for these updates to take forever. I do understand there are some hardware issues with the updates but in the end the average consumer is going to purchase a new phone or use their upgrade in order to get the latest os. If they keep updating old phones to the newest stuff people would hold onto their phone longer. I mean, ths is the first phone ive ever owned that I could flash custom roms onto. Before this I was locked into the operating system and whatever user interface was on the phone when I purchased it. If I hadnt found this forum or custom roms I would be frustrated by the lack of gingerbread and probably would have used my upgrade by now.
No hope. Most of the features aside from the UI wont work anyways due to not having the hardware (NFC) or lack of CPU and RAM (Camera features).
Just get a nice theme
they have it up and running on fascinates, as of 5AM this morning
We didnt even get official GB and we want ICS.....lol so greedy we people are...
Hell yeah Well rogers got the official gb , but att, com'on, forget about it.
First, do a little more searching. There is alreadya thread open for this topic.
That said, we will never see an official update. Our only hope of seeing it is from a port, courtesy of a device that does get it, or wait on CyagenMod to start on CM9.
Be patient. It'll be ported eventually.
I find it amazing that somone already has it somewhat running on their fascinate. I guess all the great Cappy dev's have jumped ship
Well, i'd be surprised to see ICS for our captivate. Even if cyanogen mod is getting ICS, i probably won't jump because of the superior call quality and slightly (if not better) battery life on captivate ROMs.
I thought there was some sort of court ruling forcing google to push the same version of android to all phones that were capable. I could be talking out of my ass though.
mrhaley30705 said:
First, do a little more searching. There is alreadya thread open for this topic.
That said, we will never see an official update. Our only hope of seeing it is from a port, courtesy of a device that does get it, or wait on CyagenMod to start on CM9.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Um I did? - and even the XDA board didn't give me the topic yet so meh.
And someone has this starting to run on the Fascinate?? The Captivate is THE phone that seems to get the most love besides the Vibrant for this range of devices.
And I don't care how we get it... as long as someone is able to wedge it into the phone.
You know, it's open source.
Any of you asking for it can take a crack at it
I am seriously inexperienced, but this might be a good start to a programming career..
erbsmokah said:
I thought there was some sort of court ruling forcing google to push the same version of android to all phones that were capable. I could be talking out of my ass though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, not even in the ballpark. Google has no legal obligation to any phone. What you are thinking of is how Google made the main phone produces agree to try harder to keep the phones up to date (up to one and a half years past release aka 18months). But that did not extend to the carriers...
Else they have to stop using the "Android" name and Google's apps
leaked from my FUSED SGS I897 contaminating you via XDA app.
JayFReaZy said:
I find it amazing that somone already has it somewhat running on their fascinate. I guess all the great Cappy dev's have jumped ship
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's a bit harsh don't you think? The Cappy dev's are some of the best ROM developers for that era of android phones.
lonhanson said:
That's a bit harsh don't you think? The Cappy dev's are some of the best ROM developers for that era of android phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not mention i've seen them pretty active in the galaxy nexus forums... might be because they have different priorities right now? once they figure out the newest phone they'll be able to come back and help us?
If you actually go poke around the Fascinate forum there's one guy who claims he has it running but hasn't offered any sort of proof. I think he's just looking for attention, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
Saving my money for a Galaxy Nexus
no driver said:
If you actually go poke around the Fascinate forum there's one guy who claims he has it running but hasn't offered any sort of proof. I think he's just looking for attention, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If he does have it running, it's the SDK release and it will be slow as molasses.
I've read plenty of crap about the G2x and how terrible it can be. Is there a way to tell apart the bad batches from the good ones? Maybe by IMEI? Baseband? OS version?
Thanks!
honestly, ive had my G2x since may? and only problem ive ever had(and still have) is slight screen bleed on my top corners.
other than that, i love and enjoy this phone everyday !
AndroidKills said:
honestly, ive had my G2x since may? and only problem ive ever had(and still have) is slight screen bleed on my top corners.
other than that, i love and enjoy this phone everyday !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed. I got my phone off of Craigslist and it's even a winner. This is my favorite phone...of all time, maybe. Came from a Vibrant and I won't own another Samsung product for a while.
No good or bad batches. They all come with junk software which is easy fixed with Nvflasher and a custom rom.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
OP, do yourself a favor and find a different phone. Honestly, this phone isn't worth the trouble you'll put yourself through. There are better options out there, no need to subject yourself to dealing with the G2X. Perfect example, it's December and they're trying a 2nd time around to release the gingerbread update...the phone came out in April! That should have been done a long time ago. That being said, how soon do you expect it to be upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich? Find another device, it isn't worth the trouble.
mysterioustko said:
OP, do yourself a favor and find a different phone. Honestly, this phone isn't worth the trouble you'll put yourself through. There are better options out there, no need to subject yourself to dealing with the G2X. Perfect example, it's December and they're trying a 2nd time around to release the gingerbread update...the phone came out in April! That should have been done a long time ago. That being said, how soon do you expect it to be upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich? Find another device, it isn't worth the trouble.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We're already getting alpha's of ICS. And since we're all on XDA, we've all had GB since CM7. I don't see any other reason to deter him away from this device.
mackster248 said:
We're already getting alpha's of ICS. And since we're all on XDA, we've all had GB since CM7. I don't see any other reason to deter him away from this device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What newer device doesn't have an alpha build of ICS yet? Really, that's nothing to hang your hat on. Truth be told you may never get a bug free build of ICS until the actually release comes out, or at least leaks with the things they will need to make it more stable and bug free. That didn't even really happen completely with gingerbread. The phone's fine if you're someone who's already stuck with it, and can't get out of it (for whatever reason). But, I couldn't in good conscience recommend anyone to purchase this phone. Fact is, if he intends to have anything even close to a pleasant experience HE WILL HAVE TO HACK HIS PHONE, and even then there aren't any guarantees. There are much better options out there.
Honestly the g2x still outperforms most other newer phones released this year( exnyos sgs2 aside )
With ics confirmed for our devices and both cm team and our brilliant devs here on g2x thread who got hw acceleration and just about everything else working for a beta release, I'd say our g2x's are go for their true potential. Though not quite ahead of its time as the hd2 was.. when ics is released for g2x it will only future proof the device longer since that is the OS meant to keep g2x owners happy they kept it!
Oh and I wouldn't say hacking the g2x is difficult anyways, since its one of the easiest phones to root ever lol
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium
Try this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374011
Though the installation and post-installation is PAIN IN YOUR ASS, it works 100% with nearly zero problem after it's done and it's worth the pain.
mysterioustko said:
OP, do yourself a favor and find a different phone. Honestly, this phone isn't worth the trouble you'll put yourself through. There are better options out there, no need to subject yourself to dealing with the G2X. Perfect example, it's December and they're trying a 2nd time around to release the gingerbread update...the phone came out in April! That should have been done a long time ago. That being said, how soon do you expect it to be upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich? Find another device, it isn't worth the trouble.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yep,listen to him. Please read through the forum so that way you are well informed. I WILL NOT EVEN RECOMMEND THIS PHONE TO A DUMB PERSON. LG really screwed all their so called phones up.
Sent from my Sensation using xda premium
I like this phone, it's only the second smartphone I've ever had and my other was a failberry. I had no experience with android and managed to root and flash a rom with no problems only a couple weeks after getting it. I will agree that this is not the greatest phone out of the box with the software, but if you enjoy flashing roms and trying things out it has some good hardware for the price. Some people enjoy rooting and exploring things, and this is a good phone for them IMO.
mysterioustko said:
What newer device doesn't have an alpha build of ICS yet? Really, that's nothing to hang your hat on. Truth be told you may never get a bug free build of ICS until the actually release comes out, or at least leaks with the things they will need to make it more stable and bug free. That didn't even really happen completely with gingerbread. The phone's fine if you're someone who's already stuck with it, and can't get out of it (for whatever reason). But, I couldn't in good conscience recommend anyone to purchase this phone. Fact is, if he intends to have anything even close to a pleasant experience HE WILL HAVE TO HACK HIS PHONE, and even then there aren't any guarantees. There are much better options out there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then maybe it's user error on your part because the stock GB build was perfectly fine for me. Rooted or not rooted, my phone has never shut down, rebooted, or SOD. It's fine if you don't like the phone, but it would be ignorant to deter someone away from it just because you had a bad experience. There's many that have good experiences with this phone.
Stock ROM is fine.
Custom ROM's based on stock are good.
And CM7 is even better.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium
I said Fcuk what people where saying and made the jump.....Or at least will be soon
Has anyone actually used a phone that didnt have a bug? People get upset after spending money a phone that doesnt in turn make them coffee lol, help the phone...so that in return it helps you!
dapoharoun said:
I said Fcuk what people where saying and made the jump.....Or at least will be soon
Has anyone actually used a phone that didnt have a bug? People get upset after spending money a phone that doesnt in turn make them coffee lol, help the phone...so that in return it helps you!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am on my 4th replacement LG-P999 (G2X/WIND Optimus 2X) which I got within the first 15 days of getting the first one and this one has screen bleed at the top corners and light leakage along both edges leaking through the LCD mask. Hardware-wise, if it doesn't have any problems, it is a good phone but the support for it from LG is abysmal, they should be forced out of the cell phone business for that. This phone is only as good as it is because of the hard work done by various developers here and elsewhere who I can't thank enough for that. If you like modding your phone's functions and capabilities, this is probably the best phone for that other than the Optimus 2X P990 model which has the added ability of installing various basebands. When ICS is available with video acceleration, the better camera (no lag), etc., it will significantly improve this phone's operation to what it should have been when it was first sold, it was ahead of Android's ability to take advantage of its hardware. Even if LG does provide ICS for this phone which, although they have promised to provide for the Optimus family of phones such as the 2X, I don't believe it will because it has already moved on in preference to support its 3D phone for which it has released an update to double the phone's 3G/4G speed and other significant improvements. If I were to buy another phone, even though the new Nexus does not have the best hardware, it would be that because it has ICS and will be updated for at least the next 18 months. Second to that would be the new Samsung which is promised to get ICS which I do trust Samsung to do. I will never buy another LG phone or other LG product because LG is so unethical in its business practises. So, you pays your money and takes your chances, just don't bet on a known loser, LG.
So, I wouldn't have the first clue on how to get jelly bean on a sidekick. But I hear its a pretty versatile OS. I was wondering if any of you coders thought it would be possible to do?
humfleetd said:
So, I wouldn't have the first clue on how to get jelly bean on a sidekick. But I hear its a pretty versatile OS. I was wondering if any of you coders thought it would be possible to do?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We don't even have GINGERBREAD! This phone will never run Jellybean.
lol... is this a troll or what? We have Froyo = v2.2. We would all love v2.3, v4.0, or v4.1 (jellybean). All of those are POSSIBLE, but no coders have done it. I think it is damn-near-impossible unless we get some Samsung source-code (which I thought I read was released a while back, but either I was mistaken or just nobody has stepped up to the plate yet).
(mods: this should be moved to general)
rpmccormick said:
lol... is this a troll or what? We have Froyo = v2.2. We would all love v2.3, v4.0, or v4.1 (jellybean). All of those are POSSIBLE, but no coders have done it. I think it is damn-near-impossible unless we get some Samsung source-code (which I thought I read was released a while back, but either I was mistaken or just nobody has stepped up to the plate yet).
(mods: this should be moved to general)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We have source, we just don't have any developers.
Jax184 said:
We have source, we just don't have any developers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sduvick and windxixi got pretty far into the porting process.
The problem is that while Samsung did indeed release source code to the linux kernel and select other bits, their source drop was a mess. There are a huge number of differences between the SK4G source and stock Froyo kernel source.
Someone who was very familiar with the changes between Froyo and Gingerbread could probably move the process further along. But no one with that knowledge has taken interest in the SK4G, and as time passes any such knowledge wil fade.
It's a shame. I have the money to buy any phone I want, and that is the SK4G. To me, it's ergonomics (keyboard-design / 4-main-hard-buttons) have not been topped by any phone on any carrier at any price.
If I had the time to learn just how to do all the stuff required, I'd gladly spend the time porting JB to the Sidekick.
I was of the impression that not all the driver source had been released
Code wise the device is a trainwreck hahaha
Also, it's not like sduvick, windxixi, or Samsung spent any time commenting their code. There's no documentation to speak of. It's a cluster*@#&*.
rpmccormick said:
lol... is this a troll or what? We have Froyo = v2.2. We would all love v2.3, v4.0, or v4.1 (jellybean). All of those are POSSIBLE, but no coders have done it. I think it is damn-near-impossible unless we get some Samsung source-code (which I thought I read was released a while back, but either I was mistaken or just nobody has stepped up to the plate yet).
(mods: this should be moved to general)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What a shame. This is a pretty kick ass phone. Thanks for clearing that up for me. And yes, I understand you're making fun of me for asking. But thanks all the same.:crying:
Misleading title :/
Ok, so i know I've been away for A LONG time now, but, bear with me. Instead of put a bounty like most sections do to get 2.3, 4.0 and possibly jellybean, how about we just chip in a SK4G. I know that might be a big give away, but the main reason i didn't think developers where interested in this phone is because,
1) It kinda had barely any advertising, and when it did it was fairly short.
2) It's a budget phone for people that want a smart phone, like me and many others now a days.
3) During the time this came out their where many other big phone being released like the Galaxy S2.
So why don't we try to scout out a developer that can help us with this by offering a SK4G for them to work on, maybe even get this portal worthy as bounty.
I thought with working less hours at my new job, I would have time to help with this, but that just gave the wife more time to give me more work..lol. It just seems like the people who are willing don't have the time and the people that have the time aren't willing.
mjsell2 said:
I thought with working less hours at my new job, I would have time to help with this, but that just gave the wife more time to give me more work..lol. It just seems like the people who are willing don't have the time and the people that have the time aren't willing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And then there's the other type of folks who start. Then the the kangers, trolls, and idiots who spook the devs and they quit. I've gotten over the idea of gb, ics, or jb on this device... fk it, I have better ish to do.
Although I am down to throw a couple bucks towards a dev phone for sure.
Sent from my SGH-T839 using xda app-developers app
This is my second favorite phone behind the G1 I dropped 15 feet to it's doom. I even thought I would have time to try to build from scratch with my new job, but my wife is keeping me busy and I just don't have time. This is the second time I've been on here in 3 months..the other time was this afternoon..lol. I'm actually due an upgrade and am waiting to see what is coming out this fall.
Dr.Gonz0 said:
And then there's the other type of folks who start. Then the the kangers, trolls, and idiots who spook the devs and they quit. I've gotten over the idea of gb, ics, or jb on this device... fk it, I have better ish to do.
Although I am down to throw a couple bucks towards a dev phone for sure.
Sent from my SGH-T839 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree, i kinda gave up hope on anything past GB on this phone. But to be honest, i can see this phone coming back next year because of how popular it was when it did hit the market for the first few months. If they do make a another android sidekick i will be willing to buy it just to see if they worked out the kinks and not make another Frankenstein of a phone. Also i will be willing to throw in some money, and if i have to i can look into providing a Sidekick 4g.
mjsell2 said:
This is my second favorite phone behind the G1 I dropped 15 feet to it's doom. I even thought I would have time to try to build from scratch with my new job, but my wife is keeping me busy and I just don't have time. This is the second time I've been on here in 3 months..the other time was this afternoon..lol. I'm actually due an upgrade and am waiting to see what is coming out this fall.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Q3 of phones is basically passed, Q4 nothing major is really coming out besides the rumored Note 2. Other than that right now its Galaxy S3 and One X, which in my eyes the One X might have the S3 beat if we can get the source code for the One X. But other than that, i dont have high expectations for Q4.
I don't see how this phone doesn't have at least gingerbread. I have an HTC hero, and I have been looking at the specs side by side. I have to say it looks, to me at least, that the Sidekick is more capable of running these roms. I have already run ICS on the hero, and it runs nicely. The only reason i can see for not porting these newer roms to the sidekick is simply a lack of users and developers. I think there is less user base for the sidekick than the HTC hero, not to mention the previous incarnations of the sidekick were plagued by issues.
But to close out, I honestly think the sidekick is more than capable of running GB, ICS, and maybe even Jellybean.
alex_camacho said:
I don't see how this phone doesn't have at least gingerbread. I have an HTC hero, and I have been looking at the specs side by side. I have to say it looks, to me at least, that the Sidekick is more capable of running these roms. I have already run ICS on the hero, and it runs nicely. The only reason i can see for not porting these newer roms to the sidekick is simply a lack of users and developers. I think there is less user base for the sidekick than the HTC hero, not to mention the previous incarnations of the sidekick were plagued by issues.
But to close out, I honestly think the sidekick is more than capable of running GB, ICS, and maybe even Jellybean.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I actually sold my mytouch 3g slide to get this phone . Like this phone is a big upgrade from it, but Dev wise, not even close. 3g slide has gb , ics and jb . And the specs on that phone are not up there. Kinda makes me want my slide back XP , but hey, I did it for the a/v out , 267 ppi lcd, hummingbird gpu and 1 ghz processor XP
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2
I wonder if this phone is getting key lime pie..
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda premium
so I installed this rom and it's working great. i stil get data drop and my shopkick app not working but the rom is must try. any fix for the app? already tries re-installing it
How about... using gingerbread instead.
If you need an app to work, or your phone to fully work, don't use experimental builds... thought that'd be pretty obvious.
Also, questions belong in.... the questions section.
buru898 said:
How about... using gingerbread instead.
If you need an app to work, or your phone to fully work, don't use experimental builds... thought that'd be pretty obvious.
Also, questions belong in.... the questions section.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Isn't "How about.....using gingerbread instead" a question. Wait I just asked a question. Oh no!!!! It's a never ending conundrum. I give up.
xXCrossCheckXx said:
Isn't "How about.....using gingerbread instead" a question. Wait I just asked a question. Oh no!!!! It's a never ending conundrum. I give up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, that wasn't a question, that was a suggestion.
He complains about an app not working while on a build where it's considered beta/alpha so I SUGGESTED to use a ROM that's fully functional such as gingerbread where everything works.
What you posted was pure nonsense and a means just to troll.
buru898 said:
No, that wasn't a question, that was a suggestion.
He complains about an app not working while on a build where it's considered beta/alpha so I SUGGESTED to use a ROM that's fully functional such as gingerbread where everything works.
What you posted was pure nonsense and a means just to troll.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For people like myself Gingerbread isn't the best answer. I can't get my work email on a phone running Gingerbread due to security issues. So the better option would be why can't we force the manufactures and carriers to support the phones through the 2 year contract at which we sign. But that's why IF I buy another Android phone it will be a Nexus or I'll go back to Apple as much as I hate Apple users at least I know I'll get my updates to fix security problems.
Scoobyracing03 said:
For people like myself Gingerbread isn't the best answer. I can't get my work email on a phone running Gingerbread due to security issues. So the better option would be why can't we force the manufactures and carriers to support the phones through the 2 year contract at which we sign. But that's why IF I buy another Android phone it will be a Nexus or I'll go back to Apple as much as I hate Apple users at least I know I'll get my updates to fix security problems.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah that's the only bad thing... this phone is already considered outdated... which sucks because it really isn't.
The best option for this phone is going to be Gingerbread... if you want/need the most stable, which does suck :/.
buru898 said:
Yeah that's the only bad thing... this phone is already considered outdated... which sucks because it really isn't.
The best option for this phone is going to be Gingerbread... if you want/need the most stable, which does suck :/.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly. Unfortunately for us, the most Feature-Rich, stable phone with all the working bells and whistles for us is a GB ROM. With the release of the SU660 ICS ROM, I truly believe we'll hit a time in the near future (1-2 months) where we will have a stable, Feature-Rich ICS ROM for the G2X. That will lead to a very nice JB ROM once the devs exercise their brain muscle some (They are good at it, I'm just a wanna-be Dev.)
As it has always been for us, it's a waiting game. I'm confident we'll get there, but it's gonna be a while.
New2my8125 said:
Exactly. Unfortunately for us, the most Feature-Rich, stable phone with all the working bells and whistles for us is a GB ROM. With the release of the SU660 ICS ROM, I truly believe we'll hit a time in the near future (1-2 months) where we will have a stable, Feature-Rich ICS ROM for the G2X. That will lead to a very nice JB ROM once the devs exercise their brain muscle some (They are good at it, I'm just a wanna-be Dev.)
As it has always been for us, it's a waiting game. I'm confident we'll get there, but it's gonna be a while.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes sir...
We really "should" be getting ICS soon... so just hold out a little longer :/.
thanks for all the help. so going to get gingerbread .