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What am I missing - Galaxy SII

I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.

Dual core
1 gig of ram
It's only slightly smaller - actually feels better in your hand.
Gingerbread 2.3.4 from the carrier
Better GPS lock
I'm still wondering if it has the chip needed for voodoo sound though...

It's not a huge difference but you get gingerbread out the box, touchwiz 4.0, dual core, 1080p recording, hdmi(infuse as well), thx soluscado totally slipped my mind, etc. The infuse is ok but i'm probably getting rid of mine. The checkered loading is driving me crazy.

I agree with the OP. The dual core proc seems like a "meh" addition, especially considering the battery trade-off. I just don't use TouchWiz anyway, so that's irrelevant. The bigger screen is a BIG deal to me, and any video I take with my phone is displayed on my phone, so 1080p recording is irrelevant. I'm pretty sure you get HDMI out on the Infuse as well, but I have no use for that either. And the Gingerbread enhancements are so minor (to me) that I really couldn't care less whether it's available OOB or not.

crawlgsx said:
I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.
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What you said.

Yea no point. I'll stick with my infuse until samsung releases an lte phone on att like ours or the s2. Or wait for googles next phone and hope that is lte as well.
Dual core is not enough reason to upgrade, I want real 4g speeds.
Infuse running Serendipity VII

If the GPS chip is better than that of the infuse then I'm switching. I use the GPS more than anything else on the phone and that is a deal breaker for me. If the infuse had a perfect working GPS, I'd take it over the s2 anyday.
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The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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VtHondaGuy08 said:
The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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Lol but auto text on it is a total fail.... Hopefully you guys understand.
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I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?

teiglin said:
I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?
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looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though

I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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dajeoo said:
I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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Mine is def a netter lock then on my infuse.
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There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.

CheesyNutz said:
looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though
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It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.

MikeyMike01 said:
It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.
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If its anything like the Euro version it has 839mb ram for the user.
And I agree Mikey it is probably the best Android phone out there!

Do we know if its ddr2 ram? What about the i/o tech? That LG is dual something or other.
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MikeyMike01 said:
There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.
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I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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tazbo28 said:
I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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Report back after you have held and used one!
you will see the difference for sure
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tazbo28 said:
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010?
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I said 2010 on purpose. That's where single core Froyo phones belong.

Galaxy S 2 in hand and its not better or faster!

Hi, yesterday I bought the Galaxy s 2 i9100 for $600 thinking its going to be a 10 times better and now after using one day I. Don't think it's any better.
1. It feels soon much smaller its like Nexus S size, and all things feel cramped.
2. I'm using it side by side with all the apps I have they open the same time Infuse looks much nicer, overall same speed.
3. Sound on infuse much much better, the speaker and the earpice.
4. The browser same smoothness nothing more.
That's all I can say. If anyone wants me to compare anything or has any question I'm here to answer.
I think whoever is thinking to buy should not. I was the same wanting to find 10 times better but I can't.
INFUSE 4G IS MUCH MUCH BETTER.
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But what about buying one at upgrade price (once it comes out) I've heard rumblings about it coming out 10/2 or something.
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honestly I was always wondering why ppl are so hyped over having the SII. Yeah its faster and better perfomance. But who's gonna need all that on a phone. Texting, calling and game apps is just enough for me.

For upgrade price? I'm not saying it's bad. Its just not better then infuse. Having a bigger screen is better or the speaker sound. There are lots of things in real use better on Infuse 4g
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Sarius24 said:
honestly I was always wondering why ppl are so hyped over having the SII. Yeah its faster and better perfomance. But who's gonna need all that on a phone. Texting, calling and game apps is just enough for me.
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i sold my galaxy s2 long ago when it first comes out in uk! the s2 with 4.27" screen looks like it' 4 inches! do you really need dual core to check emails, surf internet, check emails, or use the gps?
but i will get Canada Rogers galaxy s2 LTE, it has the same huge 4.5 screen as infuse but with dual core 1.5g!
WTF is thinking getting s2 with small 4.27" screen!

Ye we will be getting a bigger infuse. I'll be getting it later on. I guess this Infuse is just temporary for now haha

GS2 (Epic Touch ) on Sprint has a 4.5 in screen, so the att version will have a smaller screen?
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ATT has a 4.3" screen because AT&T can't do anything right, never has, never will. *cough1.5mbit4Gcough*

strychninetwitch said:
ATT has a 4.3" screen because AT&T can't do anything right, never has, never will. *cough1.5mbit4Gcough*
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To be fair, the WWE SGS2 has a 4.3" display. The SGS2 that Samsung developed has the 4.3". T-Mobile and Sprint requested a larger screen. AT&T chose to accept the original size. Probably so there wouldn't be a conflict with the Infuse.

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

Isn't the SGS II marginally thicker than the Infuse? By like .3mm or something?

To the OP.. are you comparing the SGS2 with the stock rom against a Infuse with a modded rom? or stock for stock

Ranatsu said:
To the OP.. are you comparing the SGS2 with the stock rom against a Infuse with a modded rom? or stock for stock
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Stock for stock there is clearly a difference. Benchmarks and real world scenarious show the sgs2 is clearly better
But.....I could definitely see someone having buyers remorse over paying $600 for a phone
I am still waiting for the celox.
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Well, just to throw this it out there since you guys seem to dislike the SGS2 so much, I'll trade anyone my Infuse for an SGS2 without thinking twice. You say what you will, but the dual core and (almost more importantly to me) 1 GB of RAM is NICE, and I want it.

strychninetwitch said:
Isn't the SGS II marginally thicker than the Infuse? By like .3mm or something?
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Other way around.

Sprint has a wicked carbon fiber case with a built in kickstand for the sprint version. Damn that thing is nice, don't think the infuse will fit in it though.
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I'm curious if the SGS2 works like the atrix in that the second core only runs on media stuff. The atrix second core really only runs when the dock is connected or gaming. Can you tell if SGS2 is like that. If so I would stick with infuse. Gig of RAM sounds good, but for what I do the Infuse Ram is sufficient. Unlike my Captivate which didn't have the 512 it boasted (still a mystery).

MikeyMike01 said:
Whatever you need to tell yourself.
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So you need a dual core for phone calla, texting, and the occasional web browsing? I don't, I need LTE!
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Thank You! Was thinking on the update but nah...My Infuse is great and I'm finally used to it, coming from an iPhone (bleccchh) +1

gtg465x said:
Other way around.
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You sure? The Epic Touch is 9.33mm or something and the infuse is 8.99.
Or did Sprint just blindly inflate their phone to make it teh legitz?
I'm curious if the SGS2 works like the atrix in that the second core only runs on media stuff. The atrix second core really only runs when the dock is connected or gaming. Can you tell if SGS2 is like that. If so I would stick with infuse. Gig of RAM sounds good, but for what I do the Infuse Ram is sufficient. Unlike my Captivate which didn't have the 512 it boasted (still a mystery).
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Really? Would you like for the infuse to drain the battery twice as fast all the time when it only needs the extra 100% drain for games and a few apps?

ATT launching LTE Samsung Galaxy S II

Looks like we'll be loosing some more Captivate users next week. Between these two phones it's going to be a tough call on which one to pick up.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/31/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-lte-skyrocket-landing-on-att-november-6th-for-250/

Also looks like att is going to see quite a few returned s2's for the lte version.

hilarity ensues

Well, it put more refurbed s2's out there. Makes it better if you have an upgrade coming up.

Does the skyrocket have the Exynos or the Qualcomm cpu?
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Looks like I know what my next phone (and Christmas present...to myself....) is going to be...
HTC VIVID, here I come!
EDIT: Still wish I could switch to Verizon... At least they have LTE where I live, while ATT doesn't even have universal 3G coverage here.

Stevenrogers_420 said:
Does the skyrocket have the Exynos or the Qualcomm cpu?
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While i'm just guessing, i'm thinking it will haves the same processor as the TMo version of the S2(ever which one that may be) because of the screen size.

Stevenrogers_420 said:
Does the skyrocket have the Exynos or the Qualcomm cpu?
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Looks like its the Exynos 4212, but I haven't seen any articles specifically confirming this.

Unless you live on Mars, At&T doesn't have LTE yet. I jumped ship to Verizon and they don't have it it all markets yet either. Why bother?

cappysw10 said:
Unless you live on Mars, At&T doesn't have LTE yet. I jumped ship to Verizon and they don't have it it all markets yet either. Why bother?
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I live in San Antonio, we've got LTE here. Oh wait.....this might actually be Mars.

Anyone heard what the chipset is on the Vivid yet? While the 1.5 GHz Exynos is appealing; I don't think I can take it being on a Samsung phone anymore. I'm thinking I'd rather have the 1.2 GHz Vivid so I can jump to HTC.

Dude it's not worth upgrading to either of those phones right now. Your best bet is to stick to this Galaxy S II, and wait for the Galaxy S III in February. Do remember that the first LTE phones will most likely have bad battery life.

Isure wish it was the Galaxy S II HD LTE instead. Same specs but with the 4.65 display instead.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/26/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-ii-lte-and-galaxy-s-ii-hd-lte-handset/

sola fide said:
Anyone heard what the chipset is on the Vivid yet? While the 1.5 GHz Exynos is appealing; I don't think I can take it being on a Samsung phone anymore. I'm thinking I'd rather have the 1.2 GHz Vivid so I can jump to HTC.
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All I know is that it's a dual core.
I'm in very much the same boat as you; although the mod community can make the Captivate better than crap, one's got to admit that staying on Samsung stock would be 100% unbearable.
On the other hand, my close friend has an Inspire 4G, which I have borrowed for an extended period of time now; that's been a dream to use, be it Sense 2 or Sense 3.
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Dude it's not worth upgrading to either of those phones right now. Your best bet is to stick to this Galaxy S II, and wait for the Galaxy S III in February. Do remember that the first LTE phones will most likely have bad battery life.
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Don't forget that these are not the first LTE phones anymore... Verizon has released plenty of them from the same manufacturers, and these are almost a full hardware "generation" removed from the Thunderbolt Desire HD and the Droid Charge already.

This thing has a Qualcomm processor and the same resolution as the sgs2, once again ....both downgrades.
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tylerdurdin said:
This thing has a Qualcomm processor and the same resolution as the sgs2, once again ....both downgrades.
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The proc type has not been verified. If its an Exynos it'll be faster than sh!t sliding off a shovel!
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Bowsa2511 said:
Dude it's not worth upgrading to either of those phones right now. Your best bet is to stick to this Galaxy S II, and wait for the Galaxy S III in February. Do remember that the first LTE phones will most likely have bad battery life.
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If upgrading right now, why get the SGSII instead of a Skyrocket or Vivid?
I'm debating which as well. I'm just worried about the SGSII dev support being split between the two (if hardware is different) or there not being much dev support over with the Vivid.

For myself, my phone is a benefit from my work. Which means I should probably stay on the stock ROM since they are paying for it. Not only that, but if something goes wrong during a flash and I mess up my phone I'll be in some trouble at work. Since that leaves me on Samsung's horrible upgrade cycle I'm very inclined to jump ship.
Even though these are new LTE phones for ATT I still believe it's worth it to consider them over the non LTE SGSII. If I'm going to be stuck with a phone for 2 years I would rather have LTE. Since I live in a LTE market it's even more of a draw. If anything, considering the HTC just to get away from Samsung.
Wouldn't be a bad idea to wait a month and see what the reviews are from other XDA members. If the battery life is completely horrible maybe just wait it out. Also my wife is due an update in December. If I do jump and don't like it I could always hand her down whatever I get and pick up something new when we renew her contract.

Regular SGS II is better.
Also be warned that a 4.5 inch screen is unusable.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Regular SGS II is better.
Also be warned that a 4.5 inch screen is unusable.
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Mikey has small fingers so unusable for him lol
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T-Mobile SGS2 vs G2x VS Sensation?

So I've narrowed my choices down to the Sensation 4G, SGS2, And G2X.
I was a EVO 4G, and EVO 3D owner from sprint, thats why the Sensation is up their. As a tech guy, not having a phone is killing me on the inside. I REALLY like the SGS2 with its huge and vibrant screen. But the G2x is MUCH cheaper (I'm a student and I have really no credit, I have to pay $200 deposit w/ any contract) and the G2x specs don't look too bad, no 4G though ): I tested the 4G in my area at the local store and got ~22mb/s at the store on the demo phone... Could probably get even better... I can wait until next week for the extra $$$ to get the SGS2 (I do have enough for it now, but not for everything else and diving into my savings is a big no-no for me). Whats the cyanogen community like for these 2 phones? I WILL be putting it on either phone... I know CES is in a few days, but its not like a Tegra 3 phone will be coming out anytime soon. The Tmobile SGS2 has the snapdragon S3 CPU/GPU, the G2x is Tegra 2 while the Sensation is the S2? If anybody has owned any of these phones and can tell me about using them, that would be great. I need the pro's and cons and cons and the hidden problems.

I have the G2x which i absolutely love!! No Problems whatsoever, lots of development too. However if I had a choice i would probably get the SGS2. Just because It looks Awesome! i see/feel no big difference in perfomance personally when i played with it in the store, but that again was only in the store. As im sure youve read, there are a few G2x's out there that have there issues, screen bleed (minor) Reboots (sucks), etc. I was blessed to have one with zero issues, ive heard that the update that now rolls out stock out of the box has fixed the issues. either way, the G2x is rock solid for me ive owned it since June, and have put everything from CM7, EB, Weapon and everything in between, I really love how Weapon G2x is and use it as my daily.

I would say Sensation. Build quality, more development, and QHD screen
It has the same CPU as the SGS2 BTW (S3) It has better support for Cyanogenmod also
If the tmo SGS2 had a Exynos cpu, I would have chosen it.

Don't listen to the bias fanboy...get the SGSII. Read the official review on androidcentral...they notice no difference between the international SGSII and the T-mobile version. Oh wait..they did notice the bigger more beatiful screen!

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Don't listen to the bias fanboy...get the SGSII. Read the official review on androidcentral...they notice no difference between the international SGSII and the T-mobile version. Oh wait..they did notice the bigger more beatiful screen!
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Don't forget the faster processor ._. Snapdragon S3>Tegra 2*IMO
mike21pr said:
I would say Sensation. Build quality, more development, and QHD screen
It has the same CPU as the SGS2 BTW (S3) It has better support for Cyanogenmod also
If the tmo SGS2 had a Exynos cpu, I would have chosen it.
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Unless you see something I do not, just looked at the sensation forum at cyanogenmod forum, and there isn't even an Alpha for cm7 officially out for it...
Although the T989 isn't even officially supported at all either....

I got sensation cause of quality. Too plastic with samsung for me but both are great phones. Go to a store and try them out. If you only wanna go for hardware go for sgs2.

I just switched from a HTC Nexus running CM7 nightlies, to a T-Mobile SGS2 on Friday. Disappointed in the ROMs that are out there now and general lack of development - I'd done some half ass'd research before picking it up, I was looking at it and the Amaze 4g, and thought it had some better support.
That being said, rooted, put Clockwork and flashed Juggernaught on it Friday night, it has been working flawlessly. I would highly recommend it.

ihellion said:
I just switched from a HTC Nexus running CM7 nightlies, to a T-Mobile SGS2 on Friday. Disappointed in the ROMs that are out there now and general lack of development - I'd done some half ass'd research before picking it up, I was looking at it and the Amaze 4g, and thought it had some better support.
That being said, rooted, put Clockwork and flashed Juggernaught on it Friday night, it has been working flawlessly. I would highly recommend it.
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Juggernaunt added alot of cm features from touchwiz. I am using it myself. Since besides the cm alpha from slayher the rest of the roms are kang from juggernaunt. I think slayher had a post that cm9 is in development now.
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Killbynature said:
Juggernaunt added alot of cm features from touchwiz. I am using it myself. Since besides the cm alpha from slayher the rest of the roms are kang from juggernaunt. I think slayher had a post that cm9 is in development now.
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I've heard the rumors of CM9, and the supposed facebook posts, but I haven't been able to find anything substantiating it. I hope so, I'd love to get some CM ICS love on.

ihellion said:
I've heard the rumors of CM9, and the supposed facebook posts, but I haven't been able to find anything substantiating it. I hope so, I'd love to get some CM ICS love on.
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The only two post i can find is this one https://plus.google.com/u/0/109781780227026386444/posts/ADMfb7WbFe5
And https://twitter.com/#!/ciwrl/status/143466669103259649

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The only two post i can find is this one
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More than I found, thanks.

Galaxy S2 hands down, wins this
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lowandbehold said:
Don't listen to the bias fanboy...get the SGSII. Read the official review on androidcentral...they notice no difference between the international SGSII and the T-mobile version. Oh wait..they did notice the bigger more beatiful screen!
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seriously?
800x480 on a 4.5" screen is good for you?
to me a true SGS2 is the international version.
what the hell were executives at Tmous thinking?
atleast with the Senny you get a higher resolution screen and good build quality.
for crying out loud...

I was very close to getting a Sensation...until I found out half the phones have dust issues due to a manufacturing defect.
Knowing that, I just had to go with an AMOLED screen (no dust issues). I didn't feel like spending $500 on a SSG2, so I just bought a Vibrant for $180 on eBay. I get to play with ICS and the phone's not too bad.
I also don't think I can go back to an LCD phone ever again. lol

Mainspring said:
seriously?
800x480 on a 4.5" screen is good for you?
to me a true SGS2 is the international version.
what the hell were executives at Tmous thinking?
atleast with the Senny you get a higher resolution screen and good build quality.
for crying out loud...
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There is not a big difference in resolution from qhd to 800x480. I don't know why people act like your using vga resolution stretched out on a 60 inch screen. Also the htc has had ridiculous hardware failures. Like dust underneath the screen and two different manufacturers for screens. The power button has also been know to sink in. Just because it's made out of metal doesn't mean it's a better phone.
If you want more development go with the sensation if you want a big phone with less development go with Samsung galaxy s2.
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Killbynature said:
There is not a big difference in resolution from qhd to 800x480. I don't know why people act like your using vga resolution stretched out on a 60 inch screen. Also the htc has had ridiculous hardware failures. Like dust underneath the screen and two different manufacturers for screens. The power button has also been know to sink in. Just because it's made out of metal doesn't mean it's a better phone.
If you want more development go with the sensation if you want a big phone with less development go with Samsung galaxy s2.
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noticeable when reading ebooks or text in general.
also, edges are crisper on pics in general, less pixelation too.
I notice these things and it would drive me nuts. (one of the reasons why I opted for the Senny instead of the SGS2)
perhaps some people can't... way the human eye perceive things differ slightly I guess from person to person.
anyway, I've had zero issues with my phone. no dust under the screen, no issues with my power or volume button.
amount of defects are actually far less then it really is I would bet.
it's just people that have problems are vocal whereas people do not aren't.
from what I read, HTC has fixed all the issues. just the initial run had some I guess.
mine is from the first run. pre-ordered and received the day of release.

lowandbehold said:
Don't listen to the bias fanboy...get the SGSII. Read the official review on androidcentral...they notice no difference between the international SGSII and the T-mobile version. Oh wait..they did notice the bigger more beatiful screen!
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Uhh, yes there is. Completely different processor. You have a 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon instead of the Exynos in the Sprint, AT&T, and International version. While it's no slouch, it doesn't even come close to the Exynos in terms of GPU capabilities. If you're gonna get the GSII, get a REAL GSII. No disrespect, it's a great phone and I'm sure has a great community, but again, completely different internals. It doesn't have the Mali 400 GPU.

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Uhh, yes there is. Completely different processor. You have a 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon instead of the Exynos in the Sprint, AT&T, and International version. While it's no slouch, it doesn't even come close to the Exynos in terms of GPU capabilities. If you're gonna get the GSII, get a REAL GSII. No disrespect, it's a great phone and I'm sure has a great community, but again, completely different internals. It doesn't have the Mali 400 GPU.
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He said they didn't notice any difference, he didn't say that there wasn't a difference. The 1.5 gHz Qualcomm vs. the 1.2 gHz Exynos was pretty close/the same in day to day usage, doesn't mean it will in benchmark tests.

Killbynature said:
There is not a big difference in resolution from qhd to 800x480. I don't know why people act like your using vga resolution stretched out on a 60 inch screen. Also the htc has had ridiculous hardware failures. Like dust underneath the screen and two different manufacturers for screens. The power button has also been know to sink in. Just because it's made out of metal doesn't mean it's a better phone.
If you want more development go with the sensation if you want a big phone with less development go with Samsung galaxy s2.
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also, super amoled plus is FAR FAR FAR supperior to htc lcd pannels

minnime007 said:
also, super amoled plus is FAR FAR FAR supperior to htc lcd pannels
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in what way may I ask?

HD?

Okay. So me and my mother are switching to AT&T soon, from Sprint. The skyrocket is the phone I'm going to go with, however I'm trying to figure out whether I should get the Skyrocket or use an old phone to hold me over until the skyrocket HD comes out? Yeah I know the only difference will be price and of course screen resolution but I don't want to get stuck for 2 years with 800x480 pixels when in a year we'll probably see like 3480x2140. Lol I'm wondering though, will the skyrocket HD have a decent amount of development? All I need is of course cm7/9 and or MIUI. I was also wondering, will it use the same roms and themes as the original Skyrocket since its the same phone just with a higher resolution screen? If that's the case I'm going to just wait for the HD. Which I'll probably do anyways. Just wanted to ask these questions. Thanks guys.
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Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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My snapdragon and screen are fine...anyhow, wait till the HD in my opinion. Skyrocket is a great phone either way.
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barmanham said:
Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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there are these 3 letters that everyone NOT on TMo/Sprint like:
L
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The original poster already said he was conflicted on whether to get the Og or the HD because he didn't want to be left behind with an obsulete version. I say get the HD, my phone having the latest features helped me pick the skyrocket. I knew I would never be happy with a phone knowing LTE was out.
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Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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barmanham said:
Why do people buy skyrocket on att when its using snapdragon plus the screen is messed up? When you guys have the other version for 100 dollars!!!!! Fuq me im stuck on tmobile smh
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My Skyrocket is better than the SGS2 for AT&T (i777) I had previously: equivalent UI/app speed, much faster data, bigger screen, equivalent battery life.
What was your point?

By the time HD skyrocket hits retail the SGS 3 should be coming out.
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Okay. So me and my mother are switching to AT&T soon, from Sprint. The skyrocket is the phone I'm going to go with, however I'm trying to figure out whether I should get the Skyrocket or use an old phone to hold me over until the skyrocket HD comes out? Yeah I know the only difference will be price and of course screen resolution but I don't want to get stuck for 2 years with 800x480 pixels when in a year we'll probably see like 3480x2140. Lol I'm wondering though, will the skyrocket HD have a decent amount of development? All I need is of course cm7/9 and or MIUI. I was also wondering, will it use the same roms and themes as the original Skyrocket since its the same phone just with a higher resolution screen? If that's the case I'm going to just wait for the HD. Which I'll probably do anyways. Just wanted to ask these questions. Thanks guys.
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Development between the Skyrocket and HD will likely see a huge amount of overlap. Adapting ROMs from one to the other will likely require little more than a recompile. So in that regard, ultimately the two models are good for us, brings more people into the fold.
So don't worry about the HD getting neglected. If that's your concern, wait it out.
You might also want to consider the regular Galaxy S II. All it's missing is LTE, and it's cheaper, available right now, already has ICS, and the Exynos is generally considered to be the more powerful chip (although the difference isn't that huge, they're both very speedy phones).
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By the time HD skyrocket hits retail the SGS 3 should be coming out.
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In Korea or whatever. We never get that stuff until 6 months later.

Even if you get the HD another phone that's better will probably come out. Besides isn't the battery life going to be worse on HD than on the OG rocket?
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my advice is to wait for the HD and see how it compares performance, battery wise etc and then make a decision. Not sure the snapdragon or any processor can handle almost 3X more pixels with ease.

mossination said:
Even if you get the HD another phone that's better will probably come out. Besides isn't the battery life going to be worse on HD than on the OG rocket?
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It doesn't really work that way. The HD Super AMOLED screen isn't going to use more just because of its resolution. Super AMOLED Plus in our phones demonstrated much lower power consumption, despite a huge increase in subpixel resolution compared to the Super AMOLED panels in the first Galaxy S.
I mean the screen may or may not be a greater power draw. I haven't seen any comparisons. But I wouldn't assume it is just because it's HD resolution.
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Not sure the snapdragon or any processor can handle almost 3X more pixels with ease.
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This is a legit concern. Not that the chip can't handle it; It's at the very least better equipped to do so than the OMAP in the Galaxy Nexus. But there's surely a performance hit to be taken by running at a much higher resolution.

The Galaxy S II LTE WIMAX came out here in Japan recently with the HD resolution. The screen is slightly bigger than the LTE/Skyrocket but the AMOLED technology is the same as the previous Galaxy S II.
The screen is very nice, perhaps a little better than the LG Optimus LTE HD (Nitro) in terms of viewing angle and brightness, however it's not the same as the super AMOLED plus in the LTE/Skyrocket which is quite vivid by comparison.
Text on the WIMAX is very readable, and nicer to read than on the LTE, however some people might find it a little too small. I've always been a 1080p guy, but have found myself straining my eyes on small screens these days. A 10.1" tablet would just about be the minimum size for full HD.
The smaller size resolution and screen on the LTE makes panel transition smoother (the Galaxy S II is smoother still), the HD panels of the WIMAX is hefty work for the same processor also used by the LTE, if speed is your priority then I would recommend waiting for the second generation HD phones to come out with much faster processors.
I had a feeling that the HD panels wouldn't be as bright being a first generation type which was why I went for the LTE, it may probably be the last of the 800x480 type but it will be the best it can be.
Anyway and we are still subjected to regular Android changes that may produce more HD based applications, so who knows where this will be heading. It will benefit tablets more because the higher resolution helps, but not sure on mobile phones.

The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.

Kaaji1359 said:
The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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lol! I was at a meeting in December and pulled out my skyrocket to look at something and a co worker said "why are your icons so big? Is that the cricket phone for old people?" hahahaha!

Kaaji1359 said:
The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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same exact situation here! Once density changed, it changed everything for me! Had the same issues when retiring the atrix.

Get HD Go big or do not go at all Luv my rocket
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Kaaji1359 said:
The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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I will have to check out that app! I have been bothered by the giant icons after coming from the Atrix. I'm looking forward to trying out the Alien ROM on this phone, I loved it on the Atrix.

taylrjones said:
I will have to check out that app! I have been bothered by the giant icons after coming from the Atrix. I'm looking forward to trying out the Alien ROM on this phone, I loved it on the Atrix.
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I have the Galaxy Captivate, the AT&T Galaxy S II, and the Skyrocket.
The captivate served me well. Still is kicking ass with ICS on it.
The AT&T Galaxy S II is nice, fast and a good phone.
But I use the skyrocket because it's JUST as fast as the GS II, it's got LTE and a bigger screen (My screen looks fine, great actually).
I had some battery issues with a rom but flashed again and It's been kicking along just fine. 12 hours later , still got 63% battery left.

Kaaji1359 said:
The only reason I would say wait is if the resolution is that big of a deal to you.
Personally I went from the 4" Atrix with a higher resolution to the 4.5" Skyrocket with a lower resolution, so it bugged the ****ing hell out of me (made me feel like an old person phone with the huge ass buttons). It was fixed with the "LCD Resolution" app; I'm now running at 914 x 548 with the Skyrocket and this phone is everything I've ever wanted.
Like others have said, when the Skyrocket is announced there will be other phones that you will want and will just have to wait even longer.
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Wow thanks for the tip on that app, love my phone even more now! Just wish I could fit more apps on the screen now, they seem so spaced out...lol
Ok nevermind about fitting more apps. Tried out ADW Launcher and it works beautifully. Only pita is having to go back to stock resolution to install some things in the market then setting everything up again...