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Google I/O Saphire/Magic phones (aka Google Ion)

Would be interesting to collect information on the phones given out today at Google I/O (each attendee got one for free, a pretty nice surprise!).
Here's the phone info. Would be helpful if anyone familiar with phones from other sources can comment on how this compares and anything these builds and versions might mean?
Model: Google Ion
Firmware Version: 1.5
Baseband Version: 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I
Kernel Version: 2.6.27-00392-g8312baf
[email protected] #72
Build Number: CRB28
We've been told this phone is SIM unlocked, and has a bootloader which will allow flashing customized images (not yet confirmed - just got it a few hours ago ).

any screen shot of the phone at work?

Yeah, the kernel dude from the Android Dev team definitely confirmed that this phone has either the Engineering bootloader or the HardSPL because it is "capable of flashing any image".
Here's a screenshot of the phone's HUGE internal memory increase:
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I also have a video of the team talking about how they feel about root at the Android Fireside Chat. Coming soon.

there is
http://androidcommunity.com/google-io-2009-htc-android-phone-unboxing-video-and-pics-20090527/
some pics and unboxing video

do you notice anything different on the os in compare to cupcake 1.5?or is just the ufficial cupcake?

In the video I'm uploading to Vimeo right now, the kernel chief (Brian, I think), talks about how he goes on xda-developers a lot. Haha.

I got my hands on an Ion phone too.
The fireside chats were great. The devs actually said they encouraging hacking and want the OEMs to ship a bootloader that allows easy flashing. Several of the guys said they visit XDA too.

Taylor likes dudes

Are the entering to the I/O conference cost any money?

I want free Google Ion too But I'm too far from Google IO conference

Here's the video of the Android Devs talking about root..
http://vimeo.com/4878214

The internal memory (flash) seems kind of low. The htc website says it has 512mbs of flash. So 295 megs available to the user doesn't seem that much. 217 is being used by the system?
Were you able to figure out how much RAM the HTC Magic has?
Supposedly it has 288 megs of RAM vs 192 megs on the G1.
The samsung i7500 supposedly has only 128 megs.
I'm considering either the magic or i7500 when it becomes available in the US, and the amount of RAM it has could be the deciding factor. The amount of built-in flash doesn't matter to me since any type of flash issues is solved by apps to sd.
Thanks,
Dave
oxeneers said:
Yeah, the kernel dude from the Android Dev team definitely confirmed that this phone has either the Engineering bootloader or the HardSPL because it is "capable of flashing any image".
Here's a screenshot of the phone's HUGE internal memory increase:
I also have a video of the team talking about how they feel about root at the Android Fireside Chat. Coming soon.
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avimak said:
Are the entering to the I/O conference cost any money?
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From the Google I/O FAQ
How much does it cost to attend the event?
Early Bird registration fees are $300 through May 1st, 2009. Attendees who register after May 1st will be charged $400. The academia (for students, professors, faculty & staff) registration fee is $50.
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Just so you all know:
I successfully have gotten root on the Ion. Brian from the dev team did confirm it has the engineering bootloader, so I went ahead and flashed Haykuro's "RootMe Rom", which unfortunately converts it to an HTC Magic model number, and I had to enter T-Mobile APN settings for the first time since the phone is unlocked. (Before, it would automatically configure all that). In fact, I could not get through Google account setup without selecting "skip".
Anyways, so I'm all set, if anyone has questions hit me up on gtalk [email protected] and I'll see if I can help you.
In other news, anyone going to be able to post the original Google Ion ROM so Haykuro can maybe modify and root it for us?

oxeneers said:
Just so you all know:
I successfully have gotten root on the Ion. Brian from the dev team did confirm it has the engineering bootloader, so I went ahead and flashed Haykuro's "RootMe Rom", which unfortunately converts it to an HTC Magic model number, and I had to enter T-Mobile APN settings for the first time since the phone is unlocked. (Before, it would automatically configure all that). In fact, I could not get through Google account setup without selecting "skip".
Anyways, so I'm all set, if anyone has questions hit me up on gtalk [email protected] and I'll see if I can help you.
In other news, anyone going to be able to post the original Google Ion ROM so Haykuro can maybe modify and root it for us?
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Disconnect helped set this up: http://andblogs.net/2009/05/ion-update-available/
this is a vanilla version of the rom. nothing special there. (should work on everyones sapphire / magic device atm)

Anyone installed this yet?
Assume you install the full package first, and then the update? Any instructions on how to do this?

it'd be nice to know the procedure to flash that ion rom into our magics, so then we can plot differences and tests...
i've read that requires test-keys , so a recovery.img original vodafone wont work?!?

Well, I'v installed by renaming the full image download to update.zip, wipe then apply. However, had to do this twice and now don't have the nandroid backup option. Assume I can't just reapply a previous nadroid backup?
Confused!

saquib said:
Well, I'v installed by renaming the full image download to update.zip, wipe then apply. However, had to do this twice and now don't have the nandroid backup option. Assume I can't just reapply a previous nadroid backup?
Confused!
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have you had a rooted phone? applyed some non-original files like recovery.img or SPL?
which keyboard languages does support?
thanks =)

phone was rooted and applied the new spl.
put on 6.0, did not like so reverted to my nandroid backup.
now put on ion rom and lost the nandroid option (backup) etc.
can someone explain or point to a newbies guide of defintions, e.g. root, recovery image, spl etc. etc.
thanks!

[ROOTED] Rogers 911 patched Dream

So after reading the recent root on the DroidX via boing boing I decided to poke it and see if it could help us on the Android1.5 dream.
Not just can it help us, but it works out of box.
For Upgrade Instructions goto:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rooting_HTC_Branded_EBI1_Dreams
Simplified process (full process is on the wiki link above):
Install DroidX hack
run it
enter root shell
unlock recovery
flash recovery
flash dangerspl [This is very safe on EBI1 devices, its the EBI0 users that get into trouble]
erase rogers rom via fastboot [I always get an unstable install of custom roms if I skip this]
install rom of choice.
Remember to thank the people over at Droid X and All Droid (as I said I just ran it.. they did the hard work)
Edit: its all based on http://c-skills.blogspot.com/2010/07/android-trickery.html
This is a rather scary attack as it applies not only to the Rogers Dream but many other android devices (including the custom mod you are likely about to install)
Edit 8/13/2010: an exploid patch for cm5.0.8 is now available; Also patched in CM6-rc3
On this note if you where one of those bugging me to do some dangerous JTAG operation on your working phone... the answer is officially no, root it yourself.
Again the full detailed installation instructions can be found at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rooting_HTC_Branded_EBI1_Dreams

Nice! This is going to make a lot of people happy

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bravo good sir bravo

TODAY IS THE BEST DAY EVER!
Root 4 my phone!
And Got a Job with HP today!
Got my ticket and am Going to eclipsefestival.com tomorrow!
Thanks to everyone at Droid X and All Droid you guys are the best!
Woo Hoo!

omg, the impossible just became possible!
HOLD ON, so this means they got past the bootloader (easily instructions too) lockdown by moto. Am I correct in assuming this will open up the moto milestone rooting scene in Canada and other places the milestone is?

asb123 said:
omg, the impossible just became possible!
HOLD ON, so this means they got past the bootloader (easily instructions too) lockdown by moto. Am I correct in assuming this will open up the moto milestone rooting scene in Canada and other places the milestone is?
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I think it will give you root if you are an android device... if not a poke the code a bit to match whatever is slightly moved on your phone.. this is a bit of a scary exploit now that I'm looking at it closer.

asb123 said:
omg, the impossible just became possible!
HOLD ON, so this means they got past the bootloader (easily instructions too) lockdown by moto. Am I correct in assuming this will open up the moto milestone rooting scene in Canada and other places the milestone is?
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root does not = custom roms. It means that you get superuser.apk and su access. They're still working on the bootloader.

bravoooo +1

mejorguille said:
root does not = custom roms. It means that you get superuser.apk and su access. They're still working on the bootloader.
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Ok, of course my phone is fine, I was thinking for a friend.
Fortunately HTC doesnt pull that off

Wow. Good job as always, man! Keep up the good work. This is front page material.

has anyone here tryed it?

This is a God-send. The Droid-X people may have done all the work, but you're the one who brought it to us Rogers Dream owners.
Quite a few friends will love this! (I refused to do the update or sign the waiver, I was lucky and got a refresh before they stopped giving them out)

It worked for me, although the only rom that's successfully booted is CM5. I've tried a handful of others and they all hang at the rogers screen, any idea why?
DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA21000)
RADIO-3.22.26.17

FlyingToilets said:
It worked for me, although the only rom that's successfully booted is CM5. I've tried a handful of others and they all hang at the rogers screen, any idea why?
DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA21000)
RADIO-3.22.26.17
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Unless you change your radio to a 2.x version, you require EBI1 roms. EBI0 roms won't work.

FlyingToilets said:
I've tried a handful of others and they all hang at the rogers screen, any idea why?
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Tell us the rom and someone can see if there is an ebi1 port (sometimes called 32a port) or create one if the dev blessed us with access to their kernel source (or who's binary kernel is in use and we find the original source)
Otherwise lookup fastbooting an ebi0 radio on your rogers dream (if your carrier is rogers also look up the wavier forum)
If you are confused stick with the ebi1 cm5.0.8 until you are sure how you want to proceed. You may however want the text patch in my sig.

ezterry said:
Tell us the rom and someone can see if there is an ebi1 port (sometimes called 32a port) or create one if the dev blessed us with access to their kernel source (or who's binary kernel is in use and we find the original source)
Otherwise lookup fastbooting an ebi0 radio on your rogers dream (if your carrier is rogers also look up the wavier forum)
If you are confused stick with the ebi1 cm5.0.8 until you are sure how you want to proceed. You may however want the text patch in my sig.
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that whole waiver thing seems unnessicary i never signed one and never lost data nor did i apply the update. i just ignored it and rogers ignored me, but i recently cancelled my data plan i wonder if they would allow me back on one :/
but either way for ebi1 kernal bcrook is the man to see http://twitter.com/bcrook88
personally i switched and never looked back

It is working excellent so far!!!
SPL 1.33.2005, Amon Ra 1.7.0
update: CM 5 is working great too. I haven't tried the nightly builds yet, but with the big thing in 2.2 being JIT, and hearing that it'd be stupid on the Dream, 2.1 is great for now!
If anybody needs a step by step, I wrote one up:
Post 911 to CM 5.0.8

@lbcoder and exterry, Yeah I had a feeling it might be the radio, but this is the first time I've touched my dream in seven months so I've forgot a lot and wasn't completely sure haha. Thanks for your quick replies though, I'll probably just downgrade my radio then. Is there any advantage to the new radio? Or was it made just so rogers could keep track of who did and didn't do the 911 update?

Just successfully got a oem replacement dream that had the e911 fix applied at the factory rooted with this. Huzzah!
EDIT: Now, while this is great for our needs, it should most likely be patched _immediately_. I get the feeling that it could be utilized to create all sorts of malicious applications.

Thanks I was about to JTAG
Works great!!!!

[S-OFF] DirtyRacun S-OFF - HTC Butterfly J KDDI (Deluxe_j) - HBOOT 1.39 ONLY!

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We attempted to explain to anyone who had questions why this was not supported - drivers are unreliable, percentage of risk for bricking was too high, and just general complications - but we were greeted with people who demanded support and others that came into our support # to tell us that "clearly we didn't test 64bit because it works" and "wanted to let us know that we could support 64bit."
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Does this support the international version? Any way that's really great device isn't even available in all the markets, yet it got s-off. Thank u
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shree.cse said:
Does this support the international version? Any way that's really great device isn't even available in all the markets, yet it got s-off. Thank u
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
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Currently no, bear in mind that the Japan version of this phone was released before all other markets and we have not yet had time to examine any of the international variants.

Nice! Thank you, for helping me get s-off while in testing.
Sent from my HTL21 using xda premium

globatron said:
Currently no, bear in mind that the Japan version of this phone was released before all other markets and we have not yet had time to examine any of the international variants.
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If you need any help with files, cid, etc being pulled you need I would help the best I can. (x920d)

toolhas4degrees said:
If you need any help with files, cid, etc being pulled you need I would help the best I can. (x920d)
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Hmm, yes. Is RUU leaked for x920d?

Fuses said:
Hmm, yes. Is RUU leaked for x920d?
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don't think it's a leak but stock ruu for tw and hk have a link in the forum, I believe, but it is labeled ics in ruu download, havn't tried to use it yet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2073430
edit i'm no dev and others now say it's fake
edit It's gotta be an old ruu i'm on hboot 1.40 and that one on the site(i'm guessing from the ruu) is 1.17, no luck
I think I've aquired the leaked ruu for asia wwe x920d, currently downloading will post in 46min if all goes well (got it on tw site, but they are having error with cid)(they think they need to super cid to use it) and it has a zip extention, but looks the right size and name

Here is the asia wwe ruu renamed as as zip (I believe) Hope this helps
pulled link bc of dropbox traffic pm me in 3 days if you need it guys/gals
edit here is that guys fix i checked the md5 sum, it matched, used zip 2 fix to fix corruption. He said he used the file successfully by renaming the .zip file to PL99IMG.zip and relocking his bootloader and copying to sd and rebooting here is the fixed .zip
pulled link bc of dropbox traffic pm me in 3 days if you need it guys/gals
(if you are not a member of the s-off unlimited io team please do not dl would like them to receive this)

also here are two update files for asia/tw x920d (both contain hboot.img files in firmware.zip in these zip files) :fingers-crossed:
first is older but run in sequence of updating
pulled link bc of dropbox traffic pm me in 3 days if you need it guys/gals
2nd is latest ota I think
pulled link bc of dropbox traffic pm me in 3 days if you need it guys/gals

Any updates on hope for s-off for x920d?

fastcx said:
Any updates on hope for s-off for x920d?
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fuses said that s-off like they did on the j version will probably work on our device(I linked him some ota files and the leaked ruu I found) but he said he was very busy with other stuff (we all have our regular lives to lead) and it will take him a while to get at it.:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:

toolhas4degrees said:
fuses said that s-off like they did on the j version will probably work on our device(I linked him some ota files and the leaked ruu I found) but he said he was very busy with other stuff (we all have our regular lives to lead) and it will take him a while to get at it.:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
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Good, will be waiting

Guys, anyone has link for DirtyRacun windows tool kit. Please PM me link if you can't share in forum.

[DEV][KERNEL] Let's COMPILE a NEW Kernel FOR HTC ChaCha [a810e / Status]!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42536090&postcount=9
As HTC CHACHA user, We have long stopped relying on HTC to support HTC CHACHA.
Let's get started. Let's compile a new kernel for HTC ChaCha!
Here are my thoughts :
Because I'm not sure which version of linuxkernel is a good start. so let's assume 3.x.xx is the new version.
And the difference between the two versions(chacha-gb-crc-2.6.35-1643b58 & linux-3.x.xx.tar.gz) is too large,
It may require us to apply the changes manually.
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AM I Correct?
I've been taken this boring part (diff chacha-gb-crc-2.6.35-1643b58.tar.gz linux-2.6.35.10.tar.gz),
AND I have already completed. Boring Boring Boring. AND I have checked it again again again.
So you can trust.There are no mistakes. EOL.
https://github.com/Luzifer1984/diff_chacha_kernel
You will find out more information about ChaCha in "kconfig"
Following is the key to transplant:
1.Circumspection: Attitude determines success
2.Skill: Linux Kernel
3.A modicum of luck: Right now we have no more hardware information about HTC ChaCha.
Step1.Transplant Linux kernel
Step2.Integrate and Modify
TOOL
1.Windows： WinMerge OR BeyondCompare
2.Linux： Meld OR BeyondCompare
Potential problems, and possible solutions:
Let's take HTC CHACHA for example.
Differences between linux-3.x.xx.tar.gz and chacha-gb-crc-2.6.35-1643b58.zip caused problems.
when the differences are big to complete files, that seem daunting and maybe even impossible. don't panic when you see that. You must be particularly careful
AND
The following principles should be respected as far as possible：
1. It would be even better if you could copy the hardware-related source code from old version to new version
2. About hardware-related source code, if old version and new version had changed same file (same file name) with different content. then we base the old version.
Because old ones did work. Old hardware-related source code got CHACHA working well.
3. source code unrelated as hardware, We should use the new one. as possible. (kernel's update)
4. if the file is difficult for you to conceive how to deal with , u should MARK and skip it.
Let's get simple tasks done first. And complete some tasks that you are absolutely sure what will happen.
Then come back to deal with the previously skipped files. This part may require us to diff other sources to get the right way.
4.1 reference sources from other devices, like LG Optimus Me P350 /ZTE Blade/ HTC Wildfire S (MSM7227 Armv6 Adreno200)
4.2 kernel.org updated kernel which caused the difference . we should find the difference between linux-3.x.xx.tar.gz & linux-2.6.35.10.tar.gz(diff)
About trade secrets and patents involved, I think there is no way to avoid. So let's forget it!
Please think about this idea and let us know what you think.
Does anybody know what i meant? Sorry for my poor English. Maybe you could convey my word meaning and revise this post.
@Adumont You are a good developer. good at English ang Git. expert in android.
Could you lead us to take it further? I like chacha so much.
MORE INFO
Check your ChaCha stock ROM. Download Button Hyperlink ---- chacha-gb-crc-2.6.35-1643b58.zip

Reserved BLUE DAY :angel:

luzifer1984 said:
Reserved BLUE DAY :angel:
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You might want to change @ adumont part to @adlx.xda

name tool used to "cut" room??
I also want to study more about the room
tkss

I can't be of much help, but check out the Atrix 4G kernel port project. It's goal is identical to this and they made tremendous progress. Obviously it will be different for the ChaCha, but the steps that need to be done will be similar.
Consider contacting the developers behind it.

i can do what ever help i can, but remember i am a newbee with full passion to improve chacha !

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luzifer1984 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42536090&postcount=9
As HTC CHACHA user, We have long stopped relying on HTC to support HTC CHACHA.
Let's get started. Let's compile a new kernel for HTC ChaCha!
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You know, all of our problem with chacha-gb-crc-2.6.35 is camera driver... I have worked on chacha-gb-crc-2.6.35 before, but I got no satisfactory result of it. even i used some of other HTC phone's KERNELs, but i exactly got no result. we should just wait till HTC want to do something about this forgotten:crying: phone.

mortal19xx said:
You know, all of our problem with chacha-gb-crc-2.6.35 is camera driver... I have worked on chacha-gb-crc-2.6.35 before, but I got no satisfactory result of it. even i used some of other HTC phone's KERNELs, but i exactly got no result. we should just wait till HTC want to do something about this forgotten:crying: phone.
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HTC won't do anything.
Also I'm pretty sure that the OP got CM10.1 with fully working camera.
Sent from my HTC Chacha A810 using xda premium

But with this kerenls, we can't make a stable ROM. Htc just talk about android 4.0. I hope that htc will release 4.1 or 4.2 and maybe 4.3 for chacha...

mortal19xx said:
But with this kerenls, we can't make a stable ROM. Htc just talk about android 4.0. I hope that htc will release 4.1 or 4.2 and maybe 4.3 for chacha...
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Yes, we can make a stable ROM.
No, they will not release any updates for the chacha.

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atrix4g18 said:
Yes, we can make a stable ROM.
No, they will not release any updates for the chacha.
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Start to make a stable ROM. I will pay you if you can... :good:

luzifer1984 said:
I've been taken this boring part (diff chacha-gb-crc-2.6.35-1643b58.tar.gz linux-2.6.35.10.tar.gz),
AND I have already completed. Boring Boring Boring. AND I have checked it again again again.
So you can trust.There are no mistakes. EOL.
https://github.com/Luzifer1984/diff_chacha_kernel
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Sorry if I'm reviving an old thread.
I downloaded the three files found on your folder and as I have understood, linux-2.6.35.10.tar.gz + diff.patch = chacha-gb-crc-2.6.35-1643b58.tar.gz, isn't it??

tokafondo said:
Sorry if I'm reviving an old thread.
I downloaded the three files found on your folder and as I have understood, linux-2.6.35.10.tar.gz + diff.patch = chacha-gb-crc-2.6.35-1643b58.tar.gz, isn't it??
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Are experienced with ROM development and with Chacha?
I'm interested to make a new ROM for it but I'm totally new, if you would like that we work together please let me know.
Also regarding the small internal memory for Chacha, how do you overcome it? Link2SD isn't a solution.

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Has there been any progress made on the kernel builds at all? There are far less phones with a qwerty keyboard that can even run a custom ROM nowdays. Obviously HTC is not supporting the phone anymore anyway, so I think it is about time we had at least a functioning kernel!

9v9 said:
Has there been any progress made on the kernel builds at all? There are far less phones with a qwerty keyboard that can even run a custom ROM nowdays. Obviously HTC is not supporting the phone anymore anyway, so I think it is about time we had at least a functioning kernel!
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Not to be pessimisstic but I guess 4.2.2 is as far as we can get as a stable ROM ajeeval has been working on kit kat according to a post I read but it's way more complicated to achieve a stable version.

[LINK][ODIN][TAR]G900VVRU1ANCG_G900VVZW1ANCG_G900VVRU1ANCG_HOME.tar .md5

WARNING: FLASH AT YOUR OWN RISK
As always I am not responsible for any damage you do to your device.
This is for folks to explore at this point and possible develop any root and/or bootloader exploits. Of course if you have an emergency this might be nice to have too.
This should ideally recover your phone back to stock, however, it is unlikely that this will reset any counters, e-fuses, and/or q-fuses that may trip due to tinkering with the phone.
http://invisiblek.org/joder/SGS5/SM-G900V_VZW_1_20140331185350_7qiy1jcm1z.zip
md5: 7d4e172bb8fb678fe0929d6a9f976891
As always thanks to @invisiblek for hosting this file.

Let's get this party started

Any reason you say don't flash odin yet? Any question of the validity of the file, or just cautioning not to do something if you don't need to?

blulite said:
Any reason you say don't flash odin yet? Any question of the validity of the file, or just cautioning not to do something if you don't need to?
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Just a caution at this point. I guess I can remove that, however, I was going to let folks poke around the files first.

Root baby....root!!!

Show them what you got XDA developers!

Next steps for those who are going to try to find a root method:
1. Download tar
2. Find start addresses and offsets
3. Analyze with your favorite analysis program
4. Check for kernel source
5. Check if kernel is patched for all known vulnerabilities
6. Start irc channel for galaxy s5
7. Gather devs with S5 and discuss possible methods of attaining root
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Surge1223 said:
Next steps for those who are going to try to find a root method:
1. Download tar
2. Find start addresses and offsets
3. Analyze with your favorite analysis program
4. Check for kernel source
5. Check if kernel is patched for all known vulnerabilities
6. Start irc channel for galaxy s5
7. Gather devs with S5 and discuss possible methods of attaining root
Sent from my SCH-I545 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Thank you for outlining this as I wouldn't even know where to start.
Having said that - we have a channel on freenode: http://webchat.freenode.net/ - #SGS5
Any guides to get me started on looking at addresses and offsets. I know I am capable, just have to learn what I am looking for and what tool to use (Windows preferably). I am guessing that we are looking for empty space in the memory that can be written to?
A few of the devs I know who could crack this don't want anything to do with a Verizon SGS5. The advice I get is go buy an dev or unlocked version. I can't necessarily blame them as they get crapped on when they put lots of work into something like this. Especially with little to no payout.

joderme said:
Thank you for outlining this as I wouldn't even know where to start.
Having said that - we have a channel on freenode: http://webchat.freenode.net/ - #SGS5
Any guides to get me started on looking at addresses and offsets. I know I am capable, just have to learn what I am looking for and what tool to use (Windows preferably). I am guessing that we are looking for empty space in the memory that can be written to?
A few of the devs I know who could crack this don't want anything to do with a Verizon SGS5. The advice I get is go buy an dev or unlocked version. I can't necessarily blame them as they get crapped on when they put lots of work into something like this. Especially with little to no payout.
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Yeah we've run into a similar situation over in the VZW s4 section. We're still fighting to find a bootloader workaround and a root method for the impending kitkat ota. Figured you guys might as well get started lol. I posted how to find start addresses in the op here
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open1your1eyes0 said:
Let's get this party started
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Just what I was thinking!

Very excited to see what turns out. I have no developing background but am desperately in need of root. Moral support being sent your way :good:

Root and Recovery
I have very little experience rooting devices. This I was hoping to make my first. The download booster along with the camera were major selling points but Big Red removed the download booster. I was able to find the download booster through an alternate launcher, but can't change the mobile network type to get it to function.
Hopefully there will be a root so I can use the tethering and use the download booster.

Why in hell was this moved to general ?
It is the very first step in making a rom, rooting, or finding a way to weasel in a boot method.
It is everything to do with development, and nothing to do with general.
noob mods.

open1your1eyes0 said:
Let's get this party started
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Did someone say party?

n2ishun said:
Why in hell was this moved to general ?
It is the very first step in making a rom, rooting, or finding a way to weasel in a boot method.
It is everything to do with development, and nothing to do with general.
noob mods.
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I moved the thread some time ago, as I personally do not believe uploading of stock firmware is development. I personally feel all stock firmware should be maintained in a single thread in general.
This "noob mod" has rooted or unlocked (as in found the vulnerabilities and written the exploit, not just running someone else's exploit) more devices than anyone in this thread, and most people in this community.
Pretty sure I know what the first steps are in researching and developing exploits, probably more so than anyone posting here.
This kind of insult and behavior is one of the reasons people with the ability to develop these exploits are stepping away from doing so publicly. Continuing this kind of behavior, were going to start ending up with fewer and fewer people willing to work on such projects.
Good luck on your endeavor.

jcase said:
I moved the thread some time ago, as I personally do not believe uploading of stock firmware is development. I personally feel all stock firmware should be maintained in a single thread in general.
This "noob mod" has rooted or unlocked (as in found the vulnerabilities and written the exploit, not just running someone else's exploit) more devices than anyone in this thread, and most people in this community.
Pretty sure I know what the first steps are in researching and developing exploits, probably more so than anyone posting here.
This kind of insult and behavior is one of the reasons people with the ability to develop these exploits are stepping away from doing so publicly. Continuing this kind of behavior, were going to start ending up with fewer and fewer people willing to work on such projects.
Good luck on your endeavor.
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joderme said:
Thank you for outlining this as I wouldn't even know where to start.
Having said that - we have a channel on freenode: http://webchat.freenode.net/ - #SGS5
Any guides to get me started on looking at addresses and offsets. I know I am capable, just have to learn what I am looking for and what tool to use (Windows preferably). I am guessing that we are looking for empty space in the memory that can be written to?
A few of the devs I know who could crack this don't want anything to do with a Verizon SGS5. The advice I get is go buy an dev or unlocked version. I can't necessarily blame them as they get crapped on when they put lots of work into something like this. Especially with little to no payout.
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Please talk to your Devs again...since the payout (even though I know all won't, but I would still expect 75%) is now almost $9,000 to find root...and I'm sure no one would crap on them for this!