Anyone know any specifics about release dates etc? Wouldn't mind changing 6.5 for something a little newer. If I hadn't absolutely hated Nokia and Mac I would've started looking for something else by now
Cheers!
tiwas said:
Anyone know any specifics about release dates etc? Wouldn't mind changing 6.5 for something a little newer. If I hadn't absolutely hated Nokia and Mac I would've started looking for something else by now
Cheers!
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October to November is currently the best guess.
Recent rumours are suggesting that there may be two different versions of WM7, a stripped down "Business" version and a richer "Media" one, with Business being out Q4 this year, and Media not till next year.
if they split it up like that then I wonder why they'd need 6.5 anymore....
I recall first plans were WM 6.5 for media hype and WM 7 for business. Even if I thought this didn't make a lot sense to not have the new OS for media bimm bamm.
Rumours are also that it's no longer based on Windows CE, but on the Zune HD kernel instead; that it WON'T be backwards compatible with earlier versions, and won't run on 99.9% of existing WM devices.
FloatingFatMan said:
Rumours are also that it's no longer based on Windows CE, but on the Zune HD kernel instead; that it WON'T be backwards compatible with earlier versions, and won't run on 99.9% of existing WM devices.
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Well if that rumor turns out to be true then I can only imagine the disappointment of some.
cerebralgenius said:
Well if that rumor turns out to be true then I can only imagine the disappointment of some.
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IF the rumours are true, it'll be a blow for existing software BUT, a good step for Microsof to take. I mean, have you seen the Zune HD's UI? WM7 is meant to be using that, and if so, iPhone is in trouble.
well if it runs .net then at least some apps would work
There is even newer rumor or supposedly unofficial response from microsoft, about this CE rumor. Ant it states, that Wm 7 bill be using CE7. And CE7 was already offcialy announced as to it will be using ARMv6 arhitecture.
And there is a Microsoft Commercial, where you can see some WM7-style thing beeing run on HTC touch Pro, and Xperia X1. So ported it will be, but how fast will it work on such devices, having only MSM7200.
FloatingFatMan said:
Rumours are also that it's no longer based on Windows CE, but on the Zune HD kernel instead; that it WON'T be backwards compatible with earlier versions, and won't run on 99.9% of existing WM devices.
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It's false.
I don't know if it definitely CE7, though it probably is. I am hearing that it can run 6.x apps so long as they are the same resolution. Trying to get more info.
RAMMANN said:
if they split it up like that then I wonder why they'd need 6.5 anymore....
I recall first plans were WM 6.5 for media hype and WM 7 for business. Even if I thought this didn't make a lot sense to not have the new OS for media bimm bamm.
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6.5 is for cheaper, lower-specification hardware. Remember that the HD2 represents the least powerful, lowest resolution device capable of running WM7. Any new WM phone with a hardware spec in any way inferior to the HD2 will run WM6.5 instead of 7.
read this:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=12237
there's only 1 choice left for us: 100% stable android rom.
Shasarak said:
6.5 is for cheaper, lower-specification hardware. Remember that the HD2 represents the least powerful, lowest resolution device capable of running WM7. Any new WM phone with a hardware spec in any way inferior to the HD2 will run WM6.5 instead of 7.
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I think that Windows Mobile 7 will be ported and modded to run on older HTC devices too
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I think that Windows Mobile 7 will be ported and modded to run on older HTC devices too
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Yeah, I reeeeeally don't think there will be an official WM7 rom for my Fuze, but I'm hoping the chefs here will be able to make a stripped down version.
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I think that Windows Mobile 7 will be ported and modded to run on older HTC devices too
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I'm not 100% sure about that. The problem is that Windows Mobile 7 will run on either Windows CE 6 or 7, as opposed to the Windows CE 5 comprising Windows Mobile 5.x and 6.x. Someone will likely have to create nearly every low level component from scratch, so the OS will support the older unsupported hardware. It might be doable, but it won't be as simple as running 6.5 on a WM 6 device. There's a thread here which goes into more detail concerning Windows Mobile 7 on a current generation device (Touch Pro2), and it doesn't look good.
malatesta said:
It's false.
I don't know if it definitely CE7, though it probably is. I am hearing that it can run 6.x apps so long as they are the same resolution. Trying to get more info.
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Until MS officially announce something, everything we hear about WM7 is going to be rumour; and one rumour can't refute another because they're both just that, rumours.
We'll have to see if they drop any more info in Feb.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I'm not 100% sure about that. The problem is that Windows Mobile 7 will run on either Windows CE 6 or 7, as opposed to the Windows CE 5 comprising Windows Mobile 5.x and 6.x. Someone will likely have to create nearly every low level component from scratch, so the OS will support the older unsupported hardware. It might be doable, but it won't be as simple as running 6.5 on a WM 6 device.
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Well it was also possible to run 6.5 on PPC 2003 devices. Probably not really stable but it was possible. but anyway I don't really care. 6.5.x will stay on my Topaz and I'll pick up a new phone for WM 7 of course
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/01/18/everything-you-need-to-know-about-windows-mobile-7/
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I think that Windows Mobile 7 will be ported and modded to run on older HTC devices too
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DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I'm not 100% sure about that. The problem is that Windows Mobile 7 will run on either Windows CE 6 or 7, as opposed to the Windows CE 5 comprising Windows Mobile 5.x and 6.x. Someone will likely have to create nearly every low level component from scratch, so the OS will support the older unsupported hardware. It might be doable, but it won't be as simple as running 6.5 on a WM 6 device. There's a thread here which goes into more detail concerning Windows Mobile 7 on a current generation device (Touch Pro2), and it doesn't look good.
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RAMMANN said:
Well it was also possible to run 6.5 on PPC 2003 devices. Probably not really stable but it was possible. but anyway I don't really care. 6.5.x will stay on my Topaz and I'll pick up a new phone for WM 7 of course
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Yes, but every version of Windows Mobile from 5.0 onwards has been based on the same Windows CE kernel; that's one reason why other OSes (like Android) run so much faster than WinMo on the same hardware, and permit 720p video recording, etc. - a lot of the underlying code in WinMo hasn't been upgraded in six years.
To put it in desktop PC terms, going from Windows Mobile 5.0 all the way up to WinMo 6.5 is the equivalent of going from Windows 95 to Windows ME - it's still basically the same OS, just with a few tweaks to the UI. By contrast, going to WM7 will be like going from Windows ME to Windows Vista - a completely different operating system kernel, with a completely different driver model.
The drivers will be the biggest problem. Unless there is some device out there that officially runs WM7 and which uses exactly the same component as one on your target platform, there simply won't be anywhere you can get a driver file from; and even if such a thing exists, piecing together complete support for every component of a device by picking and choosing driver files from many different platforms would be an enormous effort.
There is a reasonable chance that we will see WM7 running on the HD2, even if there isn't an official release; that's because HTC is apparently using the HD2 as a WM7 development platform, so if someone leaks the ROM they use for testing, the cooks here could probably cobble together something reasonable using it as a basis. But for any other device, realistically there is no chance at all.
Look Here
Its CE 7.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618631
odd would be the first time ever ms made a wm release based on a ce core not available already and tested for stability
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I may be treading in dangerous waters, here, but bear with me.
There are so many snapdragon android phones on the market (especially cdma networks), yet there aren't many snapdragon windows phones on the market (especially cdma networks). With windows phone 7 being released, no one will be making new 6.x phones.
I know android can be dual-booted on a windows phone, but can windows mobile be installed on an android phone? I'm referring to a native version (not requiring android to be running). With so many people not liking windows phone 7, it would seem like a very useful market.
JJ
Does anyone know if any of the big manufatcurers is planning to release some new devices with Windows Mobile?
I really would like a phone with a 1Ghz CPU and hardware keyboard (and all the other basic features of modern smart phones) but i cant get warm with Android and Windows Phone is totally useless for me.
I don't think so. WM 6.5 is the older version of WP7 so it would be weird to release new phones with an old OS.
You should jump into Android. It's definitely better than WM that I've used for years but I would never come back to that OS.
WM is not the older version of WP, WP is something new. They have nothing in common.
I know, thanks. Let's not split hairs on words.
This is Microsoft new mobile OS if you prefer so this is really unlikely that manufacturers would release new devices with MS old OS. MS themselves have buried that OS and have designed a totally different OS as WM didn't fit anymore with new devices. Not finger-friendly etc.
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Does anyone know if any of the big manufatcurers is planning to release some new devices with Windows Mobile?
I really would like a phone with a 1Ghz CPU and hardware keyboard (and all the other basic features of modern smart phones) but i cant get warm with Android and Windows Phone is totally useless for me.
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As far as I know, there are no plans on creating any new Windows Mobile devices. But, you never know. I believe these (http://developer.android.com/index.html; http://www.htc.com/www/product/hdmini/overview.html) are the latest and probably the last new WM phones from major manufacturers.
I have read the March 2016 article here. Is the procedure still valid, or simplified, since the several releases / updates of Windows 10 Mobile?
I have a Nokia Lumia 920 that has WP8.1 Denim, all updates done. Finally managed to get the Upgrade Advisor to download, and it tells me that this phone isn't suitable - and gives a very abbreviated list of Microsoft Lumia phones that qualify.
My own Microsoft Lumia 640XL Dual SIM upgraded easily, despite 8Gb phone space.
Hi !
If Microsoft decided not to support certain phones then there`s nothing you can do about , they may have some reasons behind
You can start a discussion here https://forum.xda-developers.com/lumia-920/general but I`m affraid that this won`t change anything but at least you might get more oppinions
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Heeeello fellow XDA's, im looking for a Windows phone 8.1 Update 2 Package so i can update to it to my nokia lumia 530 (force update)
And yes, i backed up and unlocked the bootloader.
well, i did not find what were you looking for. i did find something else.
[GUIDE] Install Windows 10 mobile on a Nokia Lumia 530 (post-discontinuation friendly)
While the Nokia Lumia 530 isn’t officially supported, it’s still possible to get Windows 10 mobile running on it. At the time of writing, it has become a bit tricky to get it to work, since most official Microsoft tools are discontinued and will...
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Fytdyh said:
well, i did not find what were you looking for. i did find something else.
[GUIDE] Install Windows 10 mobile on a Nokia Lumia 530 (post-discontinuation friendly)
While the Nokia Lumia 530 isn’t officially supported, it’s still possible to get Windows 10 mobile running on it. At the time of writing, it has become a bit tricky to get it to work, since most official Microsoft tools are discontinued and will...
forum.xda-developers.com
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well, i would want the update 2, not the 10
The update you search for in reality is called "Windows 8.1 August Update" and can't no longer get downloaded from Microsoft: links are dead.