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I know there are a lot of questions about this on XDA, but no one seems to give a straight answer on how to fix this or even prevent it.
I flashed kh2 deodexed today via CWM, everything went fine.. I installed titanium backup to restore my apps, which I did, they worked fine until I rebooted the phone. Then the apps dissapeared, and the home screen shortcuts display the SD card icon and they won't open "Application is not installed on your phone".
Then, I did a wipe to data and cache partitions, but this time I restored apps only (without data) one by one, as I needed. Not as a batch, as I did last time, and was working ok. Though, I thought I'd try the ICBINB kh2 ROM, so I flashed it fine. Restored apps through titanium backup, this time one by one, mostly apps only (some of them w/ data) and was working fine, but suddenly the apps dissapeared again.
I'm about to wipe the phone to fix this... but, is there a way to prevent this from happening again?
Is restoring data from titanium causing this?
Well there has been many direct answers on this topic. Factory reset. restore from cwm, not TB.
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hey, didn't know that. **presses thanks button**
I just restored apps via cwm, fixed permissions and it's working. It even got my settings back.. wtf. I was living under a rock all this time.
But is it completely safe? I guess that for GB builds, doing backups and restoring this way may be harmless, but probably not the same story if coming from a froyo rom.
Anyway, thanks a lot.
yea, what i did was flash both 2.2.1 and 2.3+ fresh. then backup each and whatever rom you go to, flash the corresponding backup.
I am having a problem with switching ROMs on my sensation which just started a few days ago. I am currently running ARHD 3.1.1 and it is very stable and I have had no problems whatsoever, but like many here, I like trying out different and new ROMs. Anyways, I did a backup and installed ARHD 3.6.2, and it was forcing close on several apps, and kept getting soft reboots, so I tried RCMix's, and it would load and automatically install some apps and settings that I had on my previous ROM, and it was working fine, but then I started getting soft reboots when I would open any app, so I tried about 2 other ROMs (S3n5eay/Pyramid3D) and same thing, so being fed up I restored my backup and then I began to have superuser problems, so I unistalled updates, cleared data, and still was unable to gain root access. I kept clearing data, installed superuser 2.3.6 then 3.02 and finally got root again, but everytime I reboot I lose root. I then again tried different ROMs, and same thing is happening. I have used superwipe script, ARHD's wipe script, P3D wipe script, formated from CWM, and no matter what, I am still unable to keep a new ROM and keep losing root with my backup. I'm sorry for a long post, but can anyone please help me figure this out. I have upgraded ROMs many a times in the past on this phone and others, and have never experienced these problems, so can someone please help me.
I kinda had the same problem with you, with that being root was the problem. But the ROM's are pre-rooted so that shouldn't be a problem. Try to flash the root file again, until it is succesfull flashed.
Thanks. I'll go ahead and try that.
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Geez, that sounds horrible, man. It never ceases to surprise me how different every one of these seemingly identical devices are.
West0000 said:
Geez, that sounds horrible, man. It never ceases to surprise me how different every one of these seemingly identical devices are.
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Well for the most part everyone downloads different software. For that just one of the factors that make us all somewhat "different" this is why everyone has some sort of problems here and there.
Most times a fix can be a reboot or reinstall of the app. Even clearing of caches helps because of data conflicts on the phone. Especially when someone like me that flashes different ROMS, that's why nandroids and backups are key so that if you fudge up your phone, you can always revert back to your nandroid.
And for all the people who are trying to revert back to their nandroid after flashing a different rom, you need to use the wipe data scripts in ARHD or Coredroid to reformat the ext4 before reverting your nandroid. Just a FYI.
All I know is that wiping everything before flashing a new ROM does not guarantee that you won't get FCs and soft reboots.
For example, I did a factory reset, wiped cache, wiped dalvik, and then did superwipe (yes I know redundant), and then flashed a ROM and I thought nothing could go wrong. Then while setting up I went ahead and setup my google account during the setup process, and once I was finished I began restoring my apps+data from Titanium Backup. While that was happening Market started auto-reinstalling my apps, and this instantly conflicted with the fact that I was doing the same thing from TB. It caused a few of my apps to FC all the time. So make sure you skip adding your google account during setup.
You can also get stuff to go haywire if you restore system data from TB. Doing so will conflict with the ROM and cause FCs and reboots. For example, I didn't know how to easily back up texts and contacts for a while, and I would go in to TB and restore everything that said something like mms, messages, texts, messages widget, etc. and doing so actually caused my messages to go haywire. Same thing with contacts. The only things you should be restoring from TB are your user apps+data. As already noted, you should also superwipe before restoring a nandroid because it is exactly like flashing a new ROM. If you're on a ROM you just flashed that has 1 version of superuser, and then you go straight into recovery and restore a nandroid without wiping everything first (and has a different version of superuser), you're going to get issues with superuser.
The rule of thumb when it comes to avoiding FCs and reboots is to avoid letting data conflict. Don't mix ROM data, don't mix app data, don't restore system settings from your old ROM on your new one, etc.
Believe me, I have attempted everything without any success. I guess I'm going to stay on my current ROM until I get the time to deal with all of this, and hoping that for whatever reason I don't have to reboot my phone, or that it randomly reboots in order not to deal with the problems. I have always wiped going/coming from different ROMs, but have never experienced this before, and it is very frustrating especially when I like to try different developers mods. I'll keep attempting to try to figure this out, and if I find a solution, I will update.
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Believe me, I have attempted everything without any success. I guess I'm going to stay on my current ROM until I get the time to deal with all of this, and hoping that for whatever reason I don't have to reboot my phone, or that it randomly reboots in order not to deal with the problems. I have always wiped going/coming from different ROMs, but have never experienced this before, and it is very frustrating especially when I like to try different developers mods. I'll keep attempting to try to figure this out, and if I find a solution, I will update.
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Keep trying different ROMs and different strategies of when you wipe/restore stuff. It's quite interesting that theoretically identical phones can have different responses to the exact same actions. 2 people can install a ROM in the exact same way and for 1 it will work, the other it won't. You just gotta work it out until you figure out how to manage your particular issues.
Yeah, I hear you. It's just very frustrating when in the past I have switched ROMs on all the phones that I have ever owned without any problems until now. But I'll try different methods and see what happens. I appreciate everyones input. Thanks. Oh, and if anybody has any other suggestions, please, share.
Ok, I was able to get Pyramid3D v0.8.0 working so far. I flashed with superwipe about 3 times then installed the ROM. I did not sign into my account, and installed my apps from titanium first, and then signed in. I got several reboots with setcpu so I unistalled it. I also get a few market fcs. Now the problem that I have is that I installed the 4EXT recovery and my phone is unable to play my music files through any of the music players. I am able to open them with astro, but not music player. But I guess I'll try to figure this one out now. Thanks for the advice.
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All I know is that wiping everything before flashing a new ROM does not guarantee that you won't get FCs and soft reboots.
For example, I did a factory reset, wiped cache, wiped dalvik, and then did superwipe (yes I know redundant), and then flashed a ROM and I thought nothing could go wrong. Then while setting up I went ahead and setup my google account during the setup process, and once I was finished I began restoring my apps+data from Titanium Backup. While that was happening Market started auto-reinstalling my apps, and this instantly conflicted with the fact that I was doing the same thing from TB. It caused a few of my apps to FC all the time. So make sure you skip adding your google account during setup.
You can also get stuff to go haywire if you restore system data from TB. Doing so will conflict with the ROM and cause FCs and reboots. For example, I didn't know how to easily back up texts and contacts for a while, and I would go in to TB and restore everything that said something like mms, messages, texts, messages widget, etc. and doing so actually caused my messages to go haywire. Same thing with contacts. The only things you should be restoring from TB are your user apps+data. As already noted, you should also superwipe before restoring a nandroid because it is exactly like flashing a new ROM. If you're on a ROM you just flashed that has 1 version of superuser, and then you go straight into recovery and restore a nandroid without wiping everything first (and has a different version of superuser), you're going to get issues with superuser.
The rule of thumb when it comes to avoiding FCs and reboots is to avoid letting data conflict. Don't mix ROM data, don't mix app data, don't restore system settings from your old ROM on your new one, etc.
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Good post. I didn't realize I should be doing so much wiping even before restoring a backup.
Incidentally, I'm kicking myself now, but in the excitement of flashing my first custom ROM, I forgot to backup my original system. Doh. It's the only time I haven't backed up before changing ROMs, but that's arguably the most important backup to make.
My GF has the NS4G, and currently she's using CM9 4.0, the latest listed on XDA, but I want to get her on the nightlies route, but I really don't want to wipe her phone if I don't have to. I was planning the following, and was wondering if someone could verify that it will or won't work for me.
USB latest nightly to her phone
Boot in to CWM, to a full backup
Wipe dalvik
Flash nightly.
I'm hoping that CM9 4.0 is new enough that I won't have to wipe anything else & all her apps & whatnot will stay. Am I missing something, or should I be good? Thanks!
Oh, I was also thinking of going the ROM Manager Premium route, but I've never had much luck with it. Mostly just looking for advice. Thanks again!
I've had problems in the past with trying to do something regarding from manager and CMR. Most of the times things work correctly though . I have the premium version. I'm not sure, you can take a risk if you want and wipe dalvik cache and flash a nightly but its best to make a nandroid backup of her current rom before you do so. To be honest i don't know if you can do that and not have an issue. Titanium Backup Pro(I don't know if free version can do this) can pull data settings and apps from another nandroid and restore them to the newer build(if you wipe everything after you backup her rom.) So that's another option
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Hi there. I currently am running the Legend 2 ICS Edition ROM for Infuse 4G. I just noticed there is a new update Legend 3 ICS. If I want to keep all my files and apps, do I just flash the Update file (instead of the Full Wipe file)? And do I need to go through the same process, clear cache, dalvik cache, etc.? Probably no need to wipe data and factory reset.
Any help is much appreciated! Thanks.
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Hi there. I currently am running the Legend 2 ICS Edition ROM for Infuse 4G. I just noticed there is a new update Legend 3 ICS. If I want to keep all my files and apps, do I just flash the Update file (instead of the Full Wipe file)? And do I need to go through the same process, clear cache, dalvik cache, etc.? Probably no need to wipe data and factory reset. Any help is much appreciated! Thanks.
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I suggest do a full wipe, if you want to keep your app, "tibu" titanium backup is great and well worth app, buy it...I did and worth every dime. IMHO Tibu will and can backup your apps and restore them.
So I suggest get tibu, backup your apps, do a full wipe install Leg3 go back to Gplay download/install tibu back on, then use the program to restore your apps only in this case.
Plus tibu can do a full backup of your data & apps, say you find your DD but want to test other ROMs, use tibu to backup data & apps, go test the another ROM, and want to come back to your DD ROM, you can then do a full data & app restore...plus there are lots of YouTube vid on Titanium Backup app.
Yakusoya said:
Hi there. I currently am running the Legend 2 ICS Edition ROM for Infuse 4G. I just noticed there is a new update Legend 3 ICS. If I want to keep all my files and apps, do I just flash the Update file (instead of the Full Wipe file)? And do I need to go through the same process, clear cache, dalvik cache, etc.? Probably no need to wipe data and factory reset.
Any help is much appreciated! Thanks.
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You can do the update and keep your files, which is the reason for the update. Though, like Bigjoe says, a full wipe is always prefered, but not necessary.
Yakusoya said:
Hi there. I currently am running the Legend 2 ICS Edition ROM for Infuse 4G. I just noticed there is a new update Legend 3 ICS. If I want to keep all my files and apps, do I just flash the Update file (instead of the Full Wipe file)? And do I need to go through the same process, clear cache, dalvik cache, etc.? Probably no need to wipe data and factory reset.
Any help is much appreciated! Thanks.
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The reason why everyone suggests a full wipe is so that you dont potentially run into any problems after the flash. ie flash not working, or camera wont load... little things like that that make it hard to narrow down problems. One of the main things people are going to ask is did you wipe before you installed? It helps to eliminate and remnants of left over roms so that you dont have any issues with the new rom. Its called a Bad flash.
I hope i answered your question!
Thanks for all the replies! So whether it is the full wipe ROM or the update ROM, both go through the same procedure of booting into CWM first? I will try Tibu for app backup! :good:
Stuck at blue loading loop
Hey, I am new so bare with me, I just flashed this rom onto my Infuse 4g and it seems to be restarting itself and looping to the Blue Android/Dust loading screen. It seems to fix with a fresh install of the rom, but shortly starts after everything seems fine. Please help!
araidis said:
Hey, I am new so bare with me, I just flashed this rom onto my Infuse 4g and it seems to be restarting itself and looping to the Blue Android/Dust loading screen. It seems to fix with a fresh install of the rom, but shortly starts after everything seems fine. Please help!
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Try doing an odin or hemdall back to stock with partitioning, then flash the full wipe rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524081
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705260
So I've been using your latest release (full wipe Legend v3) and I did factory reset, clear cache and dalvik cache, fixed permissions, etc. The phone is occasionally laggy now, usually when I open web browser it would stay on the white screen a several seconds. Sometimes, when I open my phone, it would stay on the black screen even though I never turned it off and it still has battery. So I had to long-press the button to restart. I've already rebooted and shut down numerous times but these problems still persist.
Also, bluetooth doesn't work for me. When I enable it from settings, the "Turn bluetooth on" checkbox stays unchecked and does nothing.
Should I reflash again? I did to a Titanium Backup to restore apps and settings... Any help is appreciated! Thanks.
turkish ?
i wonder if turkish is included or not ?
turnazurna said:
i wonder if turkish is included or not ?
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With any rom, you should be able to install More Locale 2 from the Play Store to get support for Turkish (and many other languages).
Yakusoya said:
So I've been using your latest release (full wipe Legend v3) and I did factory reset, clear cache and dalvik cache, fixed permissions, etc. The phone is occasionally laggy now, usually when I open web browser it would stay on the white screen a several seconds. Sometimes, when I open my phone, it would stay on the black screen even though I never turned it off and it still has battery. So I had to long-press the button to restart. I've already rebooted and shut down numerous times but these problems still persist.
Also, bluetooth doesn't work for me. When I enable it from settings, the "Turn bluetooth on" checkbox stays unchecked and does nothing.
Should I reflash again? I did to a Titanium Backup to restore apps and settings... Any help is appreciated! Thanks.
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My bet is the tibu restore of your settings is what is causing the issues, I've had problems and have known others that had problems when restoring system settings with tibu, especially if the tibu backups were done on another rom.
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My bet is the tibu restore of your settings is what is causing the issues, I've had problems and have known others that had problems when restoring system settings with tibu, especially if the tibu backups were done on another rom.
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I only started using tibu when I had Legend ICS v2 and then I immediately upgraded to v3 using the full wipe ROM. And then I restored all apps and settings. I'll try wipe and re-flash without restoring any settings in tibu. But honestly, I only wanted to backup my widget and screen settings (such as app shortcuts on home screens) but tibu didn't back that up.
Yakusoya said:
I only started using tibu when I had Legend ICS v2 and then I immediately upgraded to v3 using the full wipe ROM. And then I restored all apps and settings. I'll try wipe and re-flash without restoring any settings in tibu. But honestly, I only wanted to backup my widget and screen settings (such as app shortcuts on home screens) but tibu didn't back that up.
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I would try reflashing to stock, then reflashing the rom again, are you converting to ext4 at all or just using rfs?
crt60 said:
I would try reflashing to stock, then reflashing the rom again, are you converting to ext4 at all or just using rfs?
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I'm a noob so I don't know what those are. :laugh: But I've only flashed ZEUS final and then Legend ICS v2 and v3. Full wiped and cleared cache on all those flashes.
I've reflashed to stock and then back to Legend 3 without restoring anything. It is all better now, very snappy. The bluetooth can be turned on now but for some reason, it doesn't detect my Jabra headset no matter how many times I scan. But it detects my Macbook Pro...
I have the pacman rom v19 and the video camera works but it doesnt seem to save. I noticed that their is a more recent version of the rom and Im guessing the video camera has been fixed. Is their anyway to update it and be able to recover the way my home screens are all setup? that way i dont have to redo them all. And what about game data, for example i have reached certain levels of games, will that all be lost as well? Im new to roms so im sorry if these are stupid questions.
DownloadE=android716;39531024]I have the pacman rom v19 and the video camera works it doesnt seem to save. I noticed that their is a more recent version of the rom or Im guessing the video camera has been fixed. Is their anyway to update it and be able to recover the way my home screens are all setup? that way i dont have to redo them all. And what about game data, for example i have reached certain levels of games, will that all be lost as well? Im new to roms so im sorry if these are stupid questions.[/QUOTE]
Download the updated version put on SD card boot into recovery back up current rom then wipe cache and dalvik cache, install rom then gapps. You wont lose the way your home screens are setup and your data will still be there
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Download the updated version put on SD card boot into recovery back up current rom then wipe cache and dalvik cache, install rom then gapps. You wont lose the way your home screens are setup and your data will still be there
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Dirty flashing is not recommended, but it can sometimes pay off. Just wanted to warn you that it isn't always perfect. Make sure you have a good backup, though, just in case.
You should be able to download a new version, wipe both caches and system then flash rom and preferred gapps. You'll probably have to flash whatever other mods you use again. Also you should fix permissions after flashing.
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