I remember this option was built in on my old iphone 3gs - after, say, five wrong password (pin) attempts in the lock screen, the phone would wipe all its data.
Afaik this feature is nowhere within Android, is it? I don't want the phone to only be locked out, I want it kinda to "self distruct" all the data, includng a complete wipe of the sd card.
My last phone got stolen and I had EVERYTHING on it. If this happens ever again, I want my phone to be the only thing stolen, not the data on it too.
Can this be done?
Cerberus will let you remote wipe all the data.
Not much use when someone finds the phone and removes my sim. Like title says, "automatically" is the magic word here. Also, when you're abroad, you don't always have internet access to perform a remote wipe
As for most apps
Android market is the plce to look
https://market.android.com/details?...EsImNvbS52ZXNwZXJhTm92dXMuYXBwLkF1dG93aXBlIl0.
Exactly what I was looking for, thanks for this!
The app seems to have some problems though, according to reviews. Will try out!
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Can the data in an iphone can be erased like android mobile by going to recovery mode by pressing 2/3 buttons of mobiles . If not then what happens ?
What? If you want to know about resetting an iPhone, ask in an iPhone forum?
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I don't want to reset an iPhone, I''m just asking a security case. Let's imagine our android being stolen, then the thief can certainly press the power and volume key and can easily wipe data and factory reset the mobile phone by just simply going to recovery. So it'll be impossible for us to find the phone.
But I'm asking in case of an iPhone is this same case possible? Can a thief just simply wipe the data and reset the mobile by pressing some keys and without unlocking the mobile ?
Gotcha. I haven't used an iPhone in years, so don't know.
I still think it's weird to ask an iPhone reset question in an Android forum though. You would probably get your answer in a minute if you just ask in an apple forum...
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Isn't the whole point of factory reset protection on android that it renders the device useless to someone who does this? Sure, it won't stop them actually resetting it, so you won't be able to track it afterwards, but the idea is that the thieves will learn that it's a waste of time.
Apple have something to prevent you just wiping a phone and making it yours, but I can't remember the details (i.e. whether it prevents the reset or, like the Google version, prevents you from using it afterwards).
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I concur with @Large Hadron
On an iPhone, someone could enter the password incorrectly several times and the device would be wiped. It would not be usable, but it would be wiped. They could also connect the iPhone to a computer / mac with itunes and flash a factory image from there. Again, the device would be useless to them, but you wouldn't be able to recover your device from the thief.
Comparing an iPhone to a Pixel 1 or 2, both device could easily have the data wiped from the device. To that effect, the data is secure on both devices, which is by far the most important part. Recovering your lost / stolen device is an entirely different conversation. The benefit of an iPhone when lost / stolen is the device is a brick without the previous user's icloud email and password. Once it boots up, it asks for this before you can setup the phone. There is no way around this (without Apple's intervention). On a Pixel 1 or 2, the device could be wiped, but I believe the thief could then use the phone as their own. There is nothing that would "brick" the phone after a full data wipe.
If you are worried about your data, either phone is good (don't unlock bootloader and don't oem unlock). If you are worried about the hardware, you are responsible for that.
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I concur with @Large Hadron
On an iPhone, someone could enter the password incorrectly several times and the device would be wiped. It would not be usable, but it would be wiped. They could also connect the iPhone to a computer / mac with itunes and flash a factory image from there. Again, the device would be useless to them, but you wouldn't be able to recover your device from the thief.
Comparing an iPhone to a Pixel 1 or 2, both device could easily have the data wiped from the device. To that effect, the data is secure on both devices, which is by far the most important part. Recovering your lost / stolen device is an entirely different conversation. The benefit of an iPhone when lost / stolen is the device is a brick without the previous user's icloud email and password. Once it boots up, it asks for this before you can setup the phone. There is no way around this (without Apple's intervention). On a Pixel 1 or 2, the device could be wiped, but I believe the thief could then use the phone as their own. There is nothing that would "brick" the phone after a full data wipe.
If you are worried about your data, either phone is good (don't unlock bootloader and don't oem unlock). If you are worried about the hardware, you are responsible for that.
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An Android phone works exactly the same way. If you wipe it from recovery, FRP (factory reset protection) kicks in, Once that happens, you are required to log on to the last account that the phone was used on (just like Apple). If you don't know the previous account and or password, there's no way you can use the phone.
You can factory reset from settings without triggering FRP though. Doing so removes all accounts from the phone and anybody can then use it. It's assumed since you are in settings, you've already logged on when you last booted the phone. A thief wouldn't be able to get into settings to reset it as he or she wouldn't know the password to unlock the phone.
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An Android phone works exactly the same way. If you wipe it from recovery, FRP (factory reset protection) kicks in, Once that happens, you are required to log on to the last account that the phone was used on (just like Apple). If you don't know the previous account and or password, there's no way you can use the phone.
You can factory reset from settings without triggering FRP though. Doing so removes all accounts from the phone and anybody can then use it. It's assumed since you are in settings, you've already logged on when you last booted the phone. A thief wouldn't be able to get into settings to reset it as he or she wouldn't know the password to unlock the phone.
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Cool. I didn't know that. Thanks for that info
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Cool. I didn't know that. Thanks for that info
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And if you really want to perfectly protect all your encrypted files, never open the bootloader. Because there's no way to flash something in the phone if the bootloader is closed. And there's no way to Open the bootloader without wiping all your personal data in the process.
Now if you decide to open the bootloader, files are still encrypted, so it's not a big deal.
Regarding the annulment of an Android device, when it is stealed: That happens with any modern Android phone. Basically, Google bans the phone from their cloud servers. A phone without google account is like an iPhone without Apple/iCloud accounts, almost useless.
P.S.: an open bootloader in Android is like a Jailbreak in iOS, but totally OFFICIAL and supported by Google/Android. You don't lose any functionality like with Jailbreak (if that thing still exist today...).
From my point of view, Google should ask PIN before accessing Fastboot mode and Recovery mode. but this is just to prevent a bad joke from a friend or something like that. (Not when your phone is lost forever, you just want to ban that device from Google servers so can't be used again).
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An Android phone works exactly the same way. If you wipe it from recovery, FRP (factory reset protection) kicks in, Once that happens, you are required to log on to the last account that the phone was used on (just like Apple). If you don't know the previous account and or password, there's no way you can use the phone.
You can factory reset from settings without triggering FRP though. Doing so removes all accounts from the phone and anybody can then use it. It's assumed since you are in settings, you've already logged on when you last booted the phone. A thief wouldn't be able to get into settings to reset it as he or she wouldn't know the password to unlock the phone.
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Are you sure about that? I believe that factory reset still triggers FRP thus the black market trade in bypassing that check on lost and stolen devices.
i purchased this phone lgl164vl from a person i cannot get a hold of anymore and did factory reset now i cannot use it because i donot know old google account. how can i make this phone useable for me?
Factory reset without Google account
I will attempt to give ya advice on this. I have just recently purchased this device too lgl164vl, ie fiesta 2 lte, and from it's quick start guide I will be quoting from it says...
Under anti-theft guide
add your google account on your device
"After your device is protected, you'll need to either unlock or enter your Google account password if you need to do a factory reset. This ensures that you or someone you trust is doing the reset."
(Note) "DO NOT forget your Google account and password you had added to your device prior to performing a factory reset. If you can't provide the account information during the setup.process, you won't be able to use the device AT ALL after performing the factory reset."
Really sorry to give you such troubling news, and let's hope the screen lock and account wasn't set up for anti theft by previous owner, for if the anti theft was activated and you can't get ahold of the original owner I'm afraid you have been screwed. For everything is saved to Google's cloud on that one account it was setup with, and as far as I'm aware, at least until a custom recovery is made for this device, it's more or less bricked (as you can't use it.)
Hopefully this isn't the case and perhaps it's a network issue on which I have no advice.
thanks for the reply
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I will attempt to give ya advice on this. I have just recently purchased this device too lgl164vl, ie fiesta 2 lte, and from it's quick start guide I will be quoting from it says...
Under anti-theft guide
add your google account on your device
"After your device is protected, you'll need to either unlock or enter your Google account password if you need to do a factory reset. This ensures that you or someone you trust is doing the reset."
(Note) "DO NOT forget your Google account and password you had added to your device prior to performing a factory reset. If you can't provide the account information during the setup.process, you won't be able to use the device AT ALL after performing the factory reset."
Really sorry to give you such troubling news, and let's hope the screen lock and account wasn't set up for anti theft by previous owner, for if the anti theft was activated and you can't get ahold of the original owner I'm afraid you have been screwed. For everything is saved to Google's cloud on that one account it was setup with, and as far as I'm aware, at least until a custom recovery is made for this device, it's more or less bricked (as you can't use it.)
Hopefully this isn't the case and perhaps it's a network issue on which I have no advice.
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maybe some one might come up with something i hope. is there anything that could be put on sd card then put sd card in phone and when phone is turned on sd card takes control? by putting some type of application on phone to take care of this
lol, good one
these tracfone things are really tight; they don't want you to keep using it without the tracfone service, like if you root it to switch to some other service
pretty much a throwaway or you might be able to use it without phone, just wifi
sorry no info; i was hoping for more info myself.
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I'm trying to discover if the sd card can be configured as internal storage or not. Some providers disable this feature. The system says 'the card SHOULD be used as portable storage' and does not give the option to use it as internal storage (so I can expand my download capacity for pandora).
So, hopefully I can get an answer here: can I buy a faster card that the phone will be able to use as internal storage or is it really locked out regardless? I don't want to waste money on a card I don't need.
How fast should the card be? What rating? I believe it is at least class 10. (it is UHS-I/U3 Class 10)
Is it possible to 'force' the phone to use it as internal storage using ADB? (i read about this somewhere)
if so, please howto, thanks
{figured no need for new thread, don't expect it to work out, stupid tracfones, lol} ... i can do a new thread if you think i should, if there is positive info, thanks
update:
i managed to get the 'auto-install sdcard internal' program to work.. aftiss (https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/auto-formatting-sdcard-to-internal-t3583875)
seems to be doing ok so far; i migrated the data over to the sd card, it says it will start using the sd card as default app data and storage/downloads etc. But it did not say it uses the sdcard for app binaries.
The goal for me here is to get Pandora to use the sdcard to download the music with the Prime subscription for offline play, as I have tracfone and not an unlimited data plan.
It seems like it should work just fine, as music is not nearly as demanding as video, less bandwidth, about 192kBps, i think. (or maybe small b? yes, small b, like Kbps). So, really even an older sdcard should be able to do it.
With the premium (not prime) service from pandora you get your 4 most listened to channels downloaded automatically. The difference is $5/month vs $10/month.
The Prime lets you do playlists and individual songs. You have a 'my music' button to add to your offline cache. I suppose there is an automatic download as well. They say they will leave 500mb free at all times.
I suppose it may be inappropriate to talk about a pay service here, idk.
friimynd said:
update:
i managed to get the 'auto-install sdcard internal' program to work.. aftiss (https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/auto-formatting-sdcard-to-internal-t3583875)
seems to be doing ok so far; i migrated the data over to the sd card, it says it will start using the sd card as default app data and storage/downloads etc. But it did not say it uses the sdcard for app binaries.
The goal for me here is to get Pandora to use the sdcard to download the music with the Prime subscription for offline play, as I have tracfone and not an unlimited data plan.
It seems like it should work just fine, as music is not nearly as demanding as video, less bandwidth, about 192kBps, i think. (or maybe small b? yes, small b, like Kbps). So, really even an older sdcard should be able to do it.
With the premium (not prime) service from pandora you get your 4 most listened to channels downloaded automatically. The difference is $5/month vs $10/month.
The Prime lets you do playlists and individual songs. You have a 'my music' button to add to your offline cache. I suppose there is an automatic download as well. They say they will leave 500mb free at all times.
I suppose it may be inappropriate to talk about a pay service here, idk.
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Hey were you still running that LG phone really well?
I have a friend with one and I am trying to help him keep it up to date without rooting until later this year.
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Hey were you still running that LG phone really well?
I have a friend with one and I am trying to help him keep it up to date without rooting until later this year.
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i wound up ditching Pandora, sometimes a song will play with choppy sound, like cylon music, unacceptable
i reset the phone to factory specs and it works fine. It had a problem charging with the modifications. I tried a few different launchers and always had problems. It seems like it may have some protection against modifications, even as simple as using an alternative launcher. Even with the phone turned off it wouldn't charge.
However, I did discover the charger I was using has connection problems, or maybe the phone does. It is doing ok right now using a cable direct to computer.
The information I found regarding using the memory card as extended internal storage for apps is that Android no longer enables that option because it is unreliable. Perhaps it uses too much energy, i do not know. So, I'm going with stock for now. I disable all the google stuff I can and use f-droid, mainly.
It is a 'good' phone, but I'm still probably going to get a new one when the activation time runs out, rather than paying for another year of service. Possibly one could go month to month till a new phone is issued that is good enough to justify an upgrade. But even a new one of these is cheaper than another year of service and minutes.
How do you root the lgl164vl 7.0 ? Can it be done with no pc? I tried kingo root but stops at 90%
nope, it is trash; don't bother
Friend got into a fight with his brother. His brother was able to break into his phone.
Friend changed the password on the device last week, and because of his school, he doesn't take the phone with him.
He opened the phone today, and can't remember the password.
It is a Moto G7 Power, running Android 9
It has GenTech installed on the phone.
I do not know any specifics beyond that, as the settings are hidden behind a lock screen.
When I logged into the Google account, it looks like the account hasn't been backing up photos, contacts, etc since the GenTech was put on. iDrive also hasn't been backing anything up.
Are there any tools that can remove the lock screen? Preferably free, but I wouldn't mind paying a small amount. And NOT wipe the device.
Before coming here, I saw Eelphone, but it looked super shady.
Searching through XDA's forums, I saw Dr.Fone as an application as well.
Are these the best options? I mean, I troubleshoot devices for clients all the time, and thankfully haven't had to recover their devices like this, and I know that it has changed a lot since the beginnings of Android, but I need something in the toolbox for sure.
Any help is appreciated, thank you!
Edit: I thought I might try Dr.Fone on my Motorola device. Uh, not the right application that I need! I want the data preserved, not wiped. If I wanted the phone wiped, I'd have done it from the bootloader.
(Or do they make a copy of the device, wipe the phone, and reload everything minus the lock screen?)
(Or is Dr.Fone a malicious program masquerading as legitimate?)
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Friend got into a fight with his brother. His brother was able to break into his phone.
Friend changed the password on the device last week, and because of his school, he doesn't take the phone with him.
He opened the phone today, and can't remember the password.
It is a Moto G7 Power, running Android 9
It has GenTech installed on the phone.
I do not know any specifics beyond that, as the settings are hidden behind a lock screen.
When I logged into the Google account, it looks like the account hasn't been backing up photos, contacts, etc since the GenTech was put on. iDrive also hasn't been backing anything up.
Are there any tools that can remove the lock screen? Preferably free, but I wouldn't mind paying a small amount. And NOT wipe the device.
Before coming here, I saw Eelphone, but it looked super shady.
Searching through XDA's forums, I saw Dr.Fone as an application as well.
Are these the best options? I mean, I troubleshoot devices for clients all the time, and thankfully haven't had to recover their devices like this, and I know that it has changed a lot since the beginnings of Android, but I need something in the toolbox for sure.
Any help is appreciated, thank you!
Edit: I thought I might try Dr.Fone on my Motorola device. Uh, not the right application that I need! I want the data preserved, not wiped. If I wanted the phone wiped, I'd have done it from the bootloader.
(Or do they make a copy of the device, wipe the phone, and reload everything minus the lock screen?)
(Or is Dr.Fone a malicious program masquerading as legitimate?)
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Is the device rooted?
Does the device have USB debugging enabled in system settings?
If the answers to these questions are no, then all you can do is factory reset. After resetting, it will probably be FRP locked(Factory Reset Protection), which means you still need to remember the google account username and password to get logged into the device, but, the lockscreen pin/password will be removed. You'll lose the user's data in the process. At this point, if it isn't rooted or does not have USB debugging enabled, there aren't really any options to save their user data before resetting the device.
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The phone is not rooted, unless the GenTech software gained the root access. (I am too new to post a direct link, but it is a monitoring program - I don't know how common it is outside of my community)
If I recall correctly, I did get access to developer options, but that was back in July - I'm not sure if I have developer options enabled at this time.
The paid softwares can't crack it? That really is too bad.
Hey guys, so I work for an IT company that buys and sells ex gov, ex school etc stuff in bulk and resells to whoever, at the moment we have 9 of these things and they are all locked with a number password, we have tried to contact the people we got them from but as so often happens, they haven't been helpful in providing the pin, usually we would give up and throw em out but these things aren't cheap, so as the head tech, one of my superiors offered me one of them to keep/sell myself if I can figure out how to unlock them.
So backstory aside, the easy solution is boot into recovery and wipe, but these things (which ive personally never seen before) have a password in the recovery menu, requiring you to enter a password before it will actually wipe.
What is my best option to unlock/wipe these things? annoyingly the "master reset" codes etc that Panasonic have are not usable cus the dialer cant be accessed from the lock screen, my thought was adb but its been a while since ive messed with that and could do with some guidance on it.
I promise you these are not stolen, we just really dont want to lose a large chunk of change on these.
Thanks guys!
edit: so updates, usb debugging isnt on so ADB cant be done, nothing detects, recovery simply has wipe or reboot, wipe involving a password to be entered before itll wipe, its running android 5 so with some messing around im able to bypass the lockscreen and let the dialer show up and be used, by calling an emergency number and quickly hanging up while frantically clicking back and or home button, I can get it to (while in a semi locked state still) launch the home menu thats set up, annoyingly this is some organisations software and exiting it to the actual home screen requires a password again..this time a text password so forget basic guessing, and thats basically where im at, from here launching any of the tools or chrome etc will take you back to the lock screen, if I can somehow get chrome to launch, I could enter settings from there and wipe, but so far cant seem to without it going back to the lock screen and starting all over again.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, Thanks!
Hi,
I have the same problem! But this thing is brand new!!
I purchased a Panasonic toughpad Fz-x1 a couple of days ago and the first thing I did was to do an update on it which went well and the version of android on it is 4.2.2. I checked the Panasonic website to see if there was an update to 5.1.1 and there was. So I downloaded the file to my sd card and done the update, but now I am stuck with the dreaded dead android red exclamation. There is a menu of two lines, 1: Reboot system now and 2: Wipe data/ factory reset.
When you do a wipe data/ factory reset the next screen is to delete all user data and say yes to that. But now it wants a password that is numeric and I have no idea what that is as I haven't set up any security on it yet. I am hoping someone here can help me with this problem. Thanks
I am getting in touch with Panasonic and when I receive a reply from them I will pass it on here.
i need the same, my japan fz-x1 have a password in this function
I googled this and from what i read, so long as i log out of all services and set my lock screen to none, I then make sure that strong encryption is enabled then do a reset and this way it secure wipes?
Is this correct or am i best doing something else?
James
As I know, the best way to securly wipe s10+ to sell is using Samsung data eraser software. Such software can help us wipe all personal info on your S10+ phone without recovery. Then you can sell it without data leaked. Hope this will be your help.
The main way that data is stolen from wiped phones is because people fail to actually wipe them - as long as Strong Encryption on your S10 overwrites your entire storage then your data (Probably) no longer exists on that phone. Unless they can find the encryption key, but that would (should) be wiped on factory reset.
When you delete data, it isn't actually deleted, it's memory region is just marked as free real estate for new data to be written. Once it's replaced it's gone, otherwise its recoverable. Encryption should do the trick, as the data in memory marked as open will be scrambled without the key.
If you're feeling particularly paranoid however, you can also load dummy data onto your phone for an extra layer of protection, there are several tools for doing this, some of which are on the play store, before wiping it a second time.
Good luck with the sale!
(EDIT: Nazhais suggestion popped up as I was writing, but yes, data erasing software is probably the way to go.)