Just a short and sweet post about my experiences with various custom ROMs, the leaked Froyo, etc.
I've tried every Cog and SRE (back to 1.5.x), including all Froyo Cog betas and the best performance and overall user experience has been on the Cog 2.1.6 (2.1.7 was not as fast or stable).
GPS: performance of the GPS, in my experience, is just a shot in the dark, no matter what ROM or Jupiter file you use...it works sometimes, and sometimes it doesn't. I really don't want to go back to my Garmin and have a cluttered windshield, but I may have to or find another phone. The GPS is hopeless on this unit.
I went to the leaked 2.2 and it all around fixed my GPS worked perfect. But I couldn't handle the memory leak/lag. First time with Con (2.1.7). Liking it so far.
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using 2.16. Everything appears stable. GPS is OK. Speed is nice. About 4 days use so far
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Cog 2.16
Same here, Cog 2.1.6 is running nice and smooth.
Same here also. I happen to need this phone to actually be useful and reliable 2.1.6 delivers that.
boomerod said:
Take some Xanax dude, and watch your mouth! It's not necessary to make such posts. I posted this in development for a reason. If a mod thinks I should not have they will move or delete it.
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dear god in heaven, please explain this reason to me. I'm so sick of seeing the development section full of worthless posts like this. what are you contributing right now to the development of the android operating system on the samsung captivate that hasn't been said in the cognition thread already?
you mean a pre-packaged ROM based on a stable eclair release is somehow more reliable than a leaked froyo ROM with known memory issues and no voodoo lagfix? it's like you have some fantastic insight that no one has ever seen before!
can we please keep the development section clear from clutter and let it focus on ACTUAL development, not personal opinions and setups?
I'll try to be a little more eloquent than Kaik-
It's cool that you're satisfied with the setup you're using, and I'm glad you found a combination that works for you, but there is a thread dedicated to Cog (a rather large one at that).
Kaik's frustration stems from the fact that there's nothing in this post that is actually development, nothing has been created, ported, or modified, this hasn't built the community or contributed to the evolution of our device- and for that reason this doesn't belong here.
While this thread is in the wrong place, isn't it more appropriate to simply use the report button and allow a mod to move it?
Well, since this IS in the development section, I'm going to post some recent developments as they relate to my experiences with the Captivate.
By far the best ROM I've used was SRE 1.2.3.
Good post too.
And, by the way, I understand if the Cog people want all the traffic to go through the cog site but, to be honest, it's useful to have cog info posted here as well. For example, yesterday I wanted to go from 2.2 to 2.1.7. The only download link I could find was on the cog website, which makes sense. However, when I started having trouble with the install, the cog site provided no links to discussions or anything like that--just a FAQ that seemed to primarily cover 2.2. So I spent like an hour trying to comb through xda threads to find solutions. I'm not anti-searching or anything like that, but it would've been much easier if the cog site linked to the appropriate XDA threads. I'm just saying....
Edit: Oh, and I second the response to unprovoked vulgarities. If I wanted to witness vulgar and unwarranted beratings, I'd go hang out with with my alcoholic step-dad. Thanks.
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Lurkers of the Gtab community. As many of you know there is an ICS rom available elsewhere. I would like to bring this rom to XDA also but am pretty busy to keep up on all the support that will go along with it. If you are an avid lurker on these forums please shoot me a pm. I need a few people to help answer questions as they pop up in the thread. Thanks for your help. ICS will be available on XDA shortly.
ps: sorry, this is kinda a random post here. but it is "general" and about the "gtab."
I am currently running the newly developed ICS on my gtab. All I can say is it runs pretty smooth, but could use a OC kernel. I now the kernel had issues, but will wait on a OC one. First for starting this reply is if you decide to do this to your tablet. follow this man's instructions to the T. You will not regret it. HD video works great.... wait awesome. I did install set CPU in order to raise the min. to 456 to get some minor bugs issued. Will post if any issues doing this. I still get the once in awhile battery shut down, but I reboot back into CWM and clear cache and battery stats and all is well. It only seems to happen after first boot up after fully charging of the tablet. I use my tablet as a daily user so if there is going to be a issue I will keep you updated. Thank you very much for such a great updated firmware. This tablet ROCKS.
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Lurkers of the Gtab community. As many of you know there is an ICS rom available elsewhere. I would like to bring this rom to XDA also but am pretty busy to keep up on all the support that will go along with it. If you are an avid lurker on these forums please shoot me a pm. I need a few people to help answer questions as they pop up in the thread. Thanks for your help. ICS will be available on XDA shortly.
ps: sorry, this is kinda a random post here. but it is "general" and about the "gtab."
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Fosser2 you are a pillar of the community
I'm just wondering if anyone has any other useful tips on improving the performance of the TFI?
I've already done the tweaks in the "[HOW-TO] Some tweaks to sweeten your life with the Infinity a little" which did help somewhat, but this thing is still a bit sluggish.
Absolutely. We keep all the best information hidden out of reach of a simple search. The real key is to nest it deeply beneath tons of stupid questions like this one.
Seriously. This post is exactly why threads with important/pertinent information are made sticky.
Thanks for the helpful reply (sarcasm).
I've looked through just about every thread on this forum in regards to this. I referenced the sticky thread that seemed to have most of the best tweaks already listed.
Sorry for thinking someone might have some insight on why when the TFI in particular performs so poorly even compared to the Prime (I had one of those also).
I've been on this forum for 3 years and to be perfectly honest your answer is the reason I don't bother posting on most forums. I went out of my way to keep it in the Q&A section (because it is a question and I didn't want to post in a section where it would just clutter things up).
MODS, please close as you see fit. I'd guess (by the lack of productive posts) that there isn't anything out there that I haven't already found and being flamed serves no real purpose.
I will take a stab at a useful suggestion rather than bashing you for your innocent question.
The prime has had some performance gains by mounting the /data to /sd:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803252
May be something to try on the tf700.. hope that was more helpful than the snarky bashing that many posters here feel is warranted when anyone asks a question. We need to be nicer around here and if there is nothing useful for you to add to a thread... then don't post, just pm a moderator if you think the thread is not relevant.
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Thanks for the helpful reply (sarcasm).
I've looked through just about every thread on this forum in regards to this. I referenced the sticky thread that seemed to have most of the best tweaks already listed.
Sorry for thinking someone might have some insight on why when the TFI in particular performs so poorly even compared to the Prime (I had one of those also).
I've been on this forum for 3 years and to be perfectly honest your answer is the reason I don't bother posting on most forums. I went out of my way to keep it in the Q&A section (because it is a question and I didn't want to post in a section where it would just clutter things up).
MODS, please close as you see fit. I'd guess (by the lack of productive posts) that there isn't anything out there that I haven't already found and being flamed serves no real purpose.
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My honest answer is that the best performance improvement will come from root/unlock/TWRP recovery and flashing Zeus Rom v4.0, now and possibly AOSP Jelly Bean or CM10 when they are ready to flash. I always find more good performance comes from custom software than from stock.
@ Jordanmw - Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look later tonight when I get home from work.
@okantomi - I think you are probably right. I unlocked the Prime shortly after getting it and just basically figured no biggie. The only reason I haven't done it with the Infinity is because it performed so poorly out of the box that my gut reaction was that it was going to have to go back... I'll probably end up doing it though.
I do seem to be making some headway on the issue. I went through and tested some slightly modified build.prop tweaks (modified compared to the tweak thread I referenced in the OP). Added a few others and started to play around with getting init.d working so I can run some other scripts during startup rather than having multiple "tweaking" programs running. Ultimately I'll probably just end up unlocking and using one of the custom roms, but in the meantime I figured it wouldn't hurt to spend a little time learning some new tricks.
Appreciate the helpful feedback guys. Also, Once I get to where I feel the Infinity is performing the way I want, I'll post what I did (giving all credit to those who's work I benefited from of course).
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@ Jordanmw - Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look later tonight when I get home from work.
@okantomi - I think you are probably right. I unlocked the Prime shortly after getting it and just basically figured no biggie. The only reason I haven't done it with the Infinity is because it performed so poorly out of the box that my gut reaction was that it was going to have to go back... I'll probably end up doing it though.
I do seem to be making some headway on the issue. I went through and tested some slightly modified build.prop tweaks (modified compared to the tweak thread I referenced in the OP). Added a few others and started to play around with getting init.d working so I can run some other scripts during startup rather than having multiple "tweaking" programs running. Ultimately I'll probably just end up unlocking and using one of the custom roms, but in the meantime I figured it wouldn't hurt to spend a little time learning some new tricks.
Appreciate the helpful feedback guys. Also, Once I get to where I feel the Infinity is performing the way I want, I'll post what I did (giving all credit to those who's work I benefited from of course).
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That would be awesome. I've just flashed the Team Baked Black Beans Infinity Jelly Bean ROM and it's really nice. Will need to do some tweaks but init.d support is build in so it should be pretty easy.
As im sure most of you all know, I have locked the Unofficial CM10 thread. It isnt because of one person or one event, but something that has been coming for a long time. I have been stressing myself with this build and making sure that everyone was happy and doing pretty much everything i could do, but it didnt seem to be enough. While i appreciate the feedback, it is very disappointing to release cm10.1 when pretty much no other phones have released it (due to the lack of source merged and changes necessary for jellybean 4.2.1) and have nothing but post after post of this doesnt work and this doesnt look right and this is running horrible and blah blah blah even after i made it absolutely clear time after time that there may be issues since there is alot of source changes that are missing. You would think that since i took the time to merge the needed changes and work tirelessly to make changes and get the changes merged into our device/kernel trees to get CM 10.1 built and IMO running nicely, there would be alot of positive feedback and alot of understanding from the community that there may be little issues here and there since not everything was completely merged in on the CM side, but that was not the case as everyone expects perfection right and nothing else. Anyways, with that said, Building CM10 was becoming more of a job instead of something fun that i loved to do. And believe me... I havent had nearly enough donations to be ok with considering this a job... Nor do i expect alot of donations and for those of you who have supported me, I greatly appreciate it. I WILL CONTINUE to build CM10 and posting new builds on my goo page found HERE. I will not however be unlocking the CM10 thread. So... If you like my work and like my builds, keep an eye on my goo page and download when you are notified there is an update. If you like the build, great... if not, flash something else.
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As im sure most of you all know, I have locked the Unofficial CM10 thread. It isnt because of one person or one event, but something that has been coming for a long time. I have been stressing myself with this build and making sure that everyone was happy and doing pretty much everything i could do, but it didnt seem to be enough. While i appreciate the feedback, it is very disappointing to release cm10.1 when pretty much no other phones have released it (due to the lack of source merged and changes necessary for jellybean 4.2.1) and have nothing but post after post of this doesnt work and this doesnt look right and this is running horrible and blah blah blah even after i made it absolutely clear time after time that there may be issues since there is alot of source changes that are missing. You would think that since i took the time to merge the needed changes and work tirelessly to make changes and get the changes merged into our device/kernel trees to get CM 10.1 built and IMO running nicely, there would be alot of positive feedback and alot of understanding from the community that there may be little issues here and there since not everything was completely merged in on the CM side, but that was not the case as everyone expects perfection right and nothing else. Anyways, with that said, Building CM10 was becoming more of a job instead of something fun that i loved to do. And believe me... I havent had nearly enough donations to be ok with considering this a job... Nor do i expect alot of donations and for those of you who have supported me, I greatly appreciate it. I WILL CONTINUE to build CM10 and posting new builds on my goo page found HERE. I will not however be unlocking the CM10 thread. So... If you like my work and like my builds, keep an eye on my goo page and download when you are notified there is an update. If you like the build, great... if not, flash something else.
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you have a charachter flaw. you're a people pleaser. once you get over that and become a true asshole you will be much happier in life.
Dani897 said:
you have a charachter flaw. you're a people pleaser. once you get over that and become a true asshole you will be much happier in life.
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Lol! So true!
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Just wanted to put my two cents in...I've been an avid user of the roms from this site for quite awhile now & have never felt the need to register because any issues I've ever had,I've been able to rectify with some searching or have been on roms that have clearly stated they were beta's & expected to have flaws. That being said...after watching what happened on your infuse board, I just wanted to let you know the fact that you're continuing to develop & keep our phones updated with the best features gave me the first true reason to register so I could say thanks...
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Thank You.
I don't blame Scott for having the thread closed, not one bit.
And Dani is correct, Scott's character flaw is only that he's missing the "asshole" gene that some tend to have.
Now on to the good part...
I'm getting back into the swing of things as far as porting and development goes. My first attempt is going to be a nearly pure AOSP build using Aries repos and some Maguro/Takju code base, with parts from the most recent CM10.1 base. I have an idea of what I want to incorporate, but it should be light and clean, with a smooth interface.
Scott, I will be in touch with you shortly on this, as I need to finish and finalize my SDK installs and get everything going correctly for a first build.
Just checked Scotts goo link. Can I safely assume the development continues? If so hallelujah the infuse lives on.
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Most of the people that posted just wanted insight on their issues. Personally, I posted there because I felt I wasn't getting any response in the Q&A thread.
I think we should learn from the miscommunication.
One of the bigger problems we faced was that the build thread was the most responsive place to get an answer, and the bugs people had weren't clearly documented somewhere (you can't tell someone to search 500+ pages, find a bug, match it to their build, etc) so they could find and know NOT to post about it.
Going forward, maybe we can have:
Build thread- keep updated on the status of the build
Bug thread- to review / report the current build bugs
Q&A thread- how do I rotate the screen, why is this doing that, etc
Thoughts?
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Most of the people that posted just wanted insight on their issues. Personally, I posted there because I felt I wasn't getting any response in the Q&A thread.
I think we should learn from the miscommunication.
One of the bigger problems we faced was that the build thread was the most responsive place to get an answer, and the bugs people had weren't clearly documented somewhere (you can't tell someone to search 500+ pages, find a bug, match it to their build, etc) so they could find and know NOT to post about it.
Going forward, maybe we can have:
Build thread- keep updated on the status of the build
Bug thread- to review / report the current build bugs
Q&A thread- how do I rotate the screen, why is this doing that, etc
Thoughts?
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But Scott specifically asked multiple times not to post bugs on the 4.2/cm10.1 releases due to the fact that source is still being merged -cm said themselves that the 4.2 code would be buggy and that you probably wouldn't be able to build anything with it...for the most part Scott proved both of those wrong
However I do like the idea of the three threads
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Just checked Scotts goo link. Can I safely assume the development continues? If so hallelujah the infuse lives on.
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scott.hart.bti said:
I WILL CONTINUE to build CM10 and posting new builds on my goo page found HERE. I will not however be unlocking the CM10 thread. So... If you like my work and like my builds, keep an eye on my goo page and download when you are notified there is an update. If you like the build, great... if not, flash something else.
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Yes, he will keep developing, but don't expect to see updates on this forum, which is a shame. His CM10 thread was actually the only reason I got on XDA.
Thanks for the update, Scott. Don't let the drama llamas get you down
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hattrickinc said:
Most of the people that posted just wanted insight on their issues. Personally, I posted there because I felt I wasn't getting any response in the Q&A thread.
I think we should learn from the miscommunication.
One of the bigger problems we faced was that the build thread was the most responsive place to get an answer, and the bugs people had weren't clearly documented somewhere (you can't tell someone to search 500+ pages, find a bug, match it to their build, etc) so they could find and know NOT to post about it.
Going forward, maybe we can have:
Build thread- keep updated on the status of the build
Bug thread- to review / report the current build bugs
Q&A thread- how do I rotate the screen, why is this doing that, etc
Thoughts?
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For the most part I agree with you. Its why I probably pissed a bunch of people off defending the late comers and those that just don't know about logcats and such.
However, it was stated multiple times by not just Scott but the more senior and knowledgeable members that the 4.2 was going to have problems.
I agree searching through 1000 plus posts can be a daunting task and maybe I just don't have a life but I've done it for every ICS/JB rom I've flashed.. But I was there at the beginning of that development so it made it easier. But you didn't have to read more than 2 pages between warnings for the 4.2.
I'm on Scott's side on this one.
If nothing else click on the op's profile and just read all their posts.
Personally I think only devs should be allowed to post on a dev thread but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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I agree. I think there should be a minimum post count of 100 and a requirement to agree to a separate 'contract' to post in dev. threads. I read dev threads to find out what's going on in development not the rubbish that appears in most dev threads. The infuse forums have been fairly tolerant of this kind of thing. Other forums on xda, much less so.
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Changelog
I think another part of the problem is that very little actual development discussion happens here. It seems that people release their stuff here, and respond to bug reports, but that's about it. You can learn a lot about Linux by reading the archives of the Linux Kernel Mailing List (LKML). It's not quite the same situation here, learning about android is much harder (i have yet to find an android equivalent for the LKML)
Anyway, Thanks for continuing development! Will you be posting a change log between releases? I just like to know what I'm flashing ahead of time
Thanks,
woody
Scotts just released CM10.1 on goomanager 12/10 build go check it out
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Scott,
Glad to see you will be still be developing. Will there be some type of change log somewhere that we can view? I agree with some of the past. 500 pages of posts to read/search is alot. possibly a better brake down would have keep people posting in the correct places. Also with the 4.2 merge MY opionion would have been to make a separate thread as the last 4.1.2 was stable and really usable as its still my current daily. If the items arent merged maybe it isnt a good idea to even make a realease unless its to a few beta testers. That way 100s of people dont whine and complain about known or dumb issues.
Either way keeep up the good work.
Not sure how it would be accomplished, but a good idea would be to remove all posts from the cm10 thread and only scott could post in it (updates/changelog).
I have no idea how feasible that would be though.
Many thanks to scott
Hi scott, I never felt the need to comment in your thread because I never had any problems with your ROM.
But now I feel the need to comment here to express my gratitude for all the hard work that you have put into this ROM.
Your ROM is the first one that I tried, and also the best one I've seen/used. I'm VERY glad that you will continue your work for the Infuse.
Again, I thank you for your work, and I will be looking forward to future updates!
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His CM10 thread was actually the only reason I got on XDA.
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This^
hovin1988 said:
Hi scott, I never felt the need to comment in your thread because I never had any problems with your ROM.
But now I feel the need to comment here to express my gratitude for all the hard work that you have put into this ROM.
Your ROM is the first one that I tried, and also the best one I've seen/used. I'm VERY glad that you will continue your work for the Infuse.
Again, I thank you for your work, and I will be looking forward to future updates!
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And this^
I generally just read through the thread reading peoples issues if i ran into one rather than post. Issues were always sorted out if i kept reading. But thanks for all your hard work in creating roms, I know i'd be really bad off without them :good:
I think the communication and forum issues are simply a result of using a forum for "developer collaboration". Then to top it off, many are using tapatalk, which has the most useless search feature ever. I've heard the argument that a proper browser should be used, but many just won't.
As long as a forum is used for xda development, it will continue to be more like a ROM forum than anything else intended without ridiculous amounts of moderation (even judicious use of temp bans without warning).
Forums are good for arguing lol. Bugtrackers are good for tracking bugs, especially since they are easy to police. If you want feedback as well, make a special category for that. Duplicates and invalid reports can be easily identified and marked as such. For all other forums(general, q&a, accessories, etc.) a forum makes sense to me. For the development forum, a forum, IMO, makes little sense.
If the forum format is used in order to foster community, fine. You can expect a lot of drama, arguing, complaining, and everything else that goes along with it.
Just my opinion. I could be completely wrong.
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I was just posting results of a new kernel I tried today and it dawned on me that the structure of these forums are not very good for giving feedback to devs or having devs receive feedback without digging through pages and pages of people having the same problems, but not searching. Then, people who want to try the rom/kernel/whatever ask "is this working for anyone?" since all they can see is problems people are having. Then, you'll generally get 1 or 2 posts confirming that everything works for 1 or 2 people, then back to problems that have already been addressed or are from improper set up (not wiping/wrong hboot/etc).
Now, that's how xda has been running pretty much since day 1. And that's all well and good, but if you want to try out the new version of cyanogenmod, for example, the first thing you do is check to be sure there aren't any major bugs that might turn your device into a paper weight. So you start reading every post on the development thread. After getting to page 15 and reading about all of the problems people are having for whatever reason, you day forget it and stick with whatever you were using before.
See, the issue here is that when a rom/kernel/whatever works, only a couple of people will confirm it. When someone had a specific problem, it may be just them, or others may be having it as well.
You can thank people, but what if you could +1 their posts to signify that you are having the same issue, or to simply agree that everything is working without adding clutter to the thread? Seems silly to just keep posting "this worked /didn't work for me too".
Thoughts? Comments?
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Sounds like a good ideea .
As you said , if is a lot easier just to see if , for example , a given solution is working by seeing how many ppl confirmed that it is working ( and not reading the next 20 pages of comments ).
You have my +1 on this
Haha thanks for the feedback. I think devs could have a dummy post just saying "everything works!" right on the first page that people could +1.
Also, this does seem to work kind of like a poll on a thread does, but the issue with polls is that they take up a lot of space, they aren't viewable on apps like tapatalk (AFAIK anyways), and you can't change your vote. Any other thoughts? Who would I bring this to to make it happen?
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