Hi all, hope you can help. I installed clockworkmod recovery onto my wife's captivate, and now it won't boot - it's stuck at the "galaxy-S" screen.....I can get it into the YELLOW TRIANGLE screen and once managed to get it into the clockworkmod menu screen.
I believe the phone has android 2.3, not 2.2 on it and this might have been my mistake. The entry point into the kernel is likely different...
how can i fix this? do i need to remove clockworkmod and go back to the stock bootloader? The phone is not rooted, yet (that was the next step).
I haven't been able to find anything in the forums about people that have done (the stupid thing that I did) and installed clockworkmod on a 2.3 phone.
Thanks.
How exactly did you flash cwm? You shouldn't even be able to cause if 3e recovery signature verification?
If you can get to the yellow android screen, that's download mode. You're actually in a good place right now.
To fix where you are, take a look at the development section - there's a post about One-click stock packages. If you're sure she was on Gingerbread, grab one of the non-bootloader Gingerbread stock packages and flash that from download mode.
If you're not sure, I would suggest grabbing one of the Gingerbread stock packages with bootloaders (just to make sure).
In either case, see if you can find a one-click package with ClockworkMod Recovery baked into the kernel (it should say on the post which ones have it). That way you can flash what you want right out of the gate.
thanks. i am quite sure it has gingerbread. the person i bought it from said they did a kies update to 2.3.
i was following the instructions from the cyanogenmod wiki for the captivate: hxxp://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Samsung_Captivate:_Full_Update_Guide
after it finished installing the "clockworkmod recovery" i got into this bind. are those instructions for froyo only?
If you followed the instructions about flashing the speedmod kernel, that's where it's hanging. You've got a froyo kernel with a GB rom. Not a big deal, but Android isn't happy about it. Flash a stock GB package, or find a GB kernel with CWM (like boog's) and flash that and you should be ok.
thanks. do i do this using ODIN or heimdall? I installed CWM using heimdall, and in my frantic reading i thought i saw something about installing stock bootloader/rom packages with ODIN after installing CWM could brick it? Or did I misread that?
dolhop said:
thanks. do i do this using ODIN or heimdall? I installed CWM using heimdall, and in my frantic reading i thought i saw something about installing stock bootloader/rom packages with ODIN after installing CWM could brick it? Or did I misread that?
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Using heimdall is fine (it's also my personal preference between the two, but either will work).
With where you're at, you really shouldn't need to flash any bootloaders. That's pretty much the only area where there is a real risk of hard bricking the phone.
Since Heimdall worked for you once, I'd suggest grabbing the Heimdall one-click I made that's in my signature. You don't need to open it in Heimdall - just download, double-click it, and let it get ready to run. Then connect the phone in download mode and click "flash". You'll have the stock GB rom, with Boog's kernel and CWM all ready to go. You can then flash CM7 from recovery there (you'll probably have to flash it twice, though).
On a side note - flashing stock will wipe your apps. I'm assuming you backed everything up before this. If not, you might need to try and just flash a kernel first, do your backups, then go from there.
(Should you want to do that, go here, grab the one from the "Here is the odin flashable version flash it first if your on stock: Link Mirror" set of links, and then flash that in Heimdall.)
wow, thanks guys, i can breathe easier now. jmtheiss, i got it reflashed to UCKH3 using your one-click package (though now it is AT&T rather than rogers, but i really don't care as long as it works!).
does the one-click root application work with 2.3.4? or is there a more-preferred way to root it now?
Again, thanks so much for the assistance people!
In theory, you should already be rooted (I believe boog's kernel, which was in my one-click, is rooted). If not, go to the bottom of boog's 1st post, and grab the KH3 zip file. Flash that in CWM, and you'll have root permissions.
Or, if you're flashing to CM7, you can just do it from recovery as you are right now. I know from personal experience it works.
thanks everyone. it all worked, and all is good. wife is not an angrybird anymore
dolhop said:
thanks everyone. it all worked, and all is good. wife is not an angrybird anymore
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Glad to hear that she's not flying over your house shooting explosive eggs. Always a turn for the better.
Had the same problem once before, odin fixed it aswell
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Ok, so i have had a samsung captivate since last summer. I just did the official froyo update the other day and it was successful with kies mini. I then decided to root it using super1click which also worked successfully. I have superuser, titanium backup with busybox installed, and super manager and terminal emulator. I also successfully got clockworkmod flashed and working.
My problem is that ive got the new cognition rom on my internal sd card, but when i try to flash it with cwm, i get the 3e recovery failure message. Ive been reading various sites today on how to fix this problem, but every site seems to tell me something different. I ask this question here, because it seems to be the most knowledgeable site to go to.
How do i get my rooted captivate, with all the above installed and running, to allow me to flash a new rom and possible a new kernal down the road? Im about to go insane trying to decipher through all the info all the different sites have said. Sorry to write such a novel on a tired subject, but im going crazy. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks.
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Ok, so i have had a samsung captivate since last summer. I just did the official froyo update the other day and it was successful with kies mini. I then decided to root it using super1click which also worked successfully. I have superuser, titanium backup with busybox installed, and super manager and terminal emulator. I also successfully got clockworkmod flashed and working.
My problem is that ive got the new cognition rom on my internal sd card, but when i try to flash it with cwm, i get the 3e recovery failure message. Ive been reading various sites today on how to fix this problem, but every site seems to tell me something different. I ask this question here, because it seems to be the most knowledgeable site to go to.
How do i get my rooted captivate, with all the above installed and running, to allow me to flash a new rom and possible a new kernal down the road? Im about to go insane trying to decipher through all the info all the different sites have said. Sorry to write such a novel on a tired subject, but im going crazy. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks.
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If you would have done a search here then you would have found that you need to do one of 2 things.
1. Flash back to 2.1
2. Replace the 3e recovery with one that doesnt check for the sig.
I dont know how to replace the 3e recovery. I think ill go with flashing back to 2.1. Once i dl Odin and flash back to 2.1, then i can flash a new rom or a new kernel? Will it undo everything i've done so far? Thanks for the help.
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I dont know how to replace the 3e recovery. I think ill go with flashing back to 2.1. Once i dl Odin and flash back to 2.1, then i can flash a new rom or a new kernel? Will it undo everything i've done so far? Thanks for the help.
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Here is a link to the replacement recovery.
Make sure you have the right odin and that your 3 button works right.
Yesh doing this will wipe out everything. Make sure to back up. Do not back up system data at all as when you restore it, it can lead to major issues. Once done with a custom rom it will be wiped clean. You will have to redo contacts, email, and all other settings
Thanks. Would it be okay to just flash a new kernel like speedmod kernal and just use the stock rom? Is that possible to do while im on rooted 2.2? I like the rom just fine, i just want it faster mainly. Thanks again.
trontheman said:
Thanks. Would it be okay to just flash a new kernel like speedmod kernal and just use the stock rom? Is that possible to do while im on rooted 2.2? I like the rom just fine, i just want it faster mainly. Thanks again.
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To be honest I am not sure. I only had the stock on for a few hours as it was just not that great compared to the 2.2.1 rom that I have been used to running. I need BT voice dial and the added exchange options so 2.2 was not really for me. If you want a stock feel but faster then I would go with COG or one of the other roms based on the kb1 rom.
So I've come to the conclusion that I should just flash back to 2.1 and go from there. I have odin downloaded, but I'm not certain how to use it. Do you guys think I should flash a custom rom from stock, or just flash a kernel with lag fix and delete the bloatware? Thanks.
first flash 2.1 stock to get rid of the damn 3e. custom roms dont replace that always. also most custom roms dont flash with odin.
get a stock rom. read the instructions, flash
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So I've come to the conclusion that I should just flash back to 2.1 and go from there. I have odin downloaded, but I'm not certain how to use it. Do you guys think I should flash a custom rom from stock, or just flash a kernel with lag fix and delete the bloatware? Thanks.
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If you are getting .zip signature errors when trying to flash a rom (because you are using 3e recovery) you will not be able to flash a kernel.
Supercurio did make a KB1 kernel that is installable via Odin. If you install that, you will also get CWM recovery. Then you can flash anything you want.
Either way you will need an Odin program. Either Odin One Click to flash back to stock 2.1 or Odin v1.7 to flash the Supercurio KB1 Kernel .tar file.
trontheman said:
Thanks. Would it be okay to just flash a new kernel like speedmod kernal and just use the stock rom? Is that possible to do while im on rooted 2.2? I like the rom just fine, i just want it faster mainly. Thanks again.
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Correct me if i'm wrong but I think the speedmod kernal is i9000 based which would cause a major headache/bootloop on the stock rom.
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Johnnie5000 said:
Correct me if i'm wrong but I think the speedmod kernal is i9000 based which would cause a major headache/bootloop on the stock rom.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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....it works fine on stock 2.2, as does any other 2.2/2.2.1 kernel
Pirateghost said:
....it works fine on stock 2.2, as does any other 2.2/2.2.1 kernel
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The problem is, the OP has no idea what he's doing. It sounds like he's wanting to flash to 2.1, then add a I9000 kernel. Since he's all over the place, it's hard to decipher what he's thinking.
To the OP. I'd HIGHLY suggest you look for the stickied "how to" video's by Connexxion. They will tell you what you need to do and show you EXACTLY how to do it. Invaluable info for the noobs.
Here is the link your looking for, download the installer zip file at the bottom of the first post. Extract to your fancy, use the install.bat file once extracted. Be sure to have the phone connect to the pc (DO NOT MOUNT) and have USB Debugging on.
Modded 3e recovery that works like 2e
trontheman said:
Ok, so i have had a samsung captivate since last summer. I just did the official froyo update the other day and it was successful with kies mini. I then decided to root it using super1click which also worked successfully. I have superuser, titanium backup with busybox installed, and super manager and terminal emulator. I also successfully got clockworkmod flashed and working.
My problem is that ive got the new cognition rom on my internal sd card, but when i try to flash it with cwm, i get the 3e recovery failure message. Ive been reading various sites today on how to fix this problem, but every site seems to tell me something different. I ask this question here, because it seems to be the most knowledgeable site to go to.
How do i get my rooted captivate, with all the above installed and running, to allow me to flash a new rom and possible a new kernal down the road? Im about to go insane trying to decipher through all the info all the different sites have said. Sorry to write such a novel on a tired subject, but im going crazy. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks.
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I am wanting to flash back to 2.1 and go from there. I have the drivers installed and I have odin downloaded. I tried it last night, but I couldn't get it to work. I got it to download mode, but still nothing. What could the problem be? Thanks.
I tried odin one click again today, but still nothing. All i want to do is flash back to 2.1, root, then flash a rom or custom kernel. Im losing my mind, any more help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Bump. Thanks.
trontheman said:
I tried odin one click again today, but still nothing. All i want to do is flash back to 2.1, root, then flash a rom or custom kernel. Im losing my mind, any more help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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ok no need to flash 2.1
get neldars kernel flashing app from the market
get a kernel for froyo without 3e recovery in the dev section. this one is great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=547852&d=1300708475
use neldars app (edit) "sgs kernel flasher" or something to that effect. to flash this kernel
then flash cognition
you can also use odin3 but not the oneclick downloader without the .pit file and flash the same kernel placed in the pda slot.
when you installed keis mini, it installed new WRONG drivers (for odin)
reinstall the original other drivers.
BUT. in your OP all you wanted was to be able to flash COG or something.
ALL you have to do is fix your 3e recovery, SEVERAL people including myself have told you how to fix it. then CWM will work! you dont need a computer to fix 3e if you have root explorer (google it $) .
if you are going to flash a custom rom anyway dont bother going back to 2.1.
if you are going to stay stock, 2.2 is better anyway. (aside from 3e but staying stock dont matter)
you can also use odin3 but not the oneclick downloader without the .pit file and the same kernel placed in the pda slot.
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@ dani - dude read the thread. odin doesn't recognize his phone.!! try to catch up before butting in...
well that doesn't make my whole post irrelivent. if he is rooted and has busy box he can use neldars kernel flasher. sorry if i over looked something.
Ok, well i got the aio toolbox, and i flashed back to stock. Now im running 2.1-update1. How do i go about rooting now? I cant seem to find a root file. Thanks.
I've tried it with Odin3 V1.82 / V1.83
CWM Recovery 4.0.0.8 would not flash. I tried using another CWM that I found , but I can't boot into CWM.
Before flashing CWM with ODIN am I supposed to load a rooted kernel to take the place of something like an adb root?
I'm a bit lost on how to go about. My goal was to just flash a gummy rom.
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I've tried it with Odin3 V1.82 / V1.83
CWM Recovery 4.0.0.8 would not flash. I tried using another CWM that I found , but I can't boot into CWM.
Before flashing CWM with ODIN am I supposed to load a rooted kernel to take the place of something like an adb root?
I'm a bit lost on how to go about. My goal was to just flash a gummy rom.
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I'm not understanding how you "got lost" on how to go about it. Also, your issues are very vague. Instead of saying "I can't flash CWR," you should say, "Having trouble flashing CWR, here's the error I get." I'm not trying to be mean here but you have to give people something to work with in order to get help. Just saying you can't flash something doesn't give anyone any insight on how to fix the issue because we don't know what the issue is.
This post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160580
This post explains everything you need to know, and it is pretty detailed on what you need and how exactly you need to do it. If you still have any issues, or if this is the method you were using to begin with, then post back here and tell me what your exact issue is (ie: COM port changes when trying to flash, process is stuck at "waiting for device....") and I will try to help you to the best of my abilities.
I think I figured out what I did wrong. I was able to flash my wife's fascinate fine, but not everything was the exact same for the charge.
For some reason Odin 1.82 worked and 1.83 did not
CWR Mod for ALL file worked with Odin, but I was unable to access it. The link in previous post did Flash and worked great.
Thanks for helping out a newbie.
Soft bricked(total noob) just got the JIG, got into download menu.
Can someone give me instructions on how to get back to stock, gain root, and install custom ROMS/ MIUI
It be very appreciated, i'm doing this for a buddy and i don't want to give him a brick lol.
1. for restoring stock : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
2. use superoneclick to root
3. Install clockwork recovery and rom manager
4. Install custom roms.
Wait before you flash that, what firmware version did it come with???
It could mess your phone up if it isn't right.
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Wait before you flash that, what firmware version did it come with???
It could mess your phone up if it isn't right.
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Pretty sure it came with 2.2 but not sure.
Then I wouldn't do that 2.1 Odin one click.... Look for a stock 2.2 Odin or Heimdall, make sure to read thoroughly too.
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Then I wouldn't do that 2.1 Odin one click.... Look for a stock 2.2 Odin or Heimdall, make sure to read thoroughly too.
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See thats the thing i hate to be a pain but im looking for detailed instructions.
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Wait before you flash that, what firmware version did it come with???
It could mess your phone up if it isn't right.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda premium
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thank you for pointing it out
OP might want to look at these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15330252
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=963403
Note: as b-eock pointed out, make sure what was your stock version before restoring it!
I've always just flashed newer than my stock to avoid that problem and it always works well for me, after bricking or when i want to flash a new rom i flash to cappy gingerbread and flash boog kernal to get CWM(clockworkmod). CWM is essential is you plan on flashing to other roms. If you plan on flashing to another rom anyways it doesn't matter which version of stock you load as long as it work so I'd just flash 2.2 or newer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
- this has all the odin 1-click flashable packages for captivate
To do everything you want to do...
flash back to stock, use 2.2 or one of the 2.3 versions. If you plan on flashing to a gingerbread rom (2.3) you'll most likely need the gingerbread bootloaders, if you don't originally flash a odin package with the gingerbread bootloaders you might be asked to install them later depending on what rom you use
incase you don't know odin is the computer program used to flash one click packages, you can find it by searching XDA, one click packages won't require it.
odin has to be open before you plug the usb into the phone putting it into download mode.
to flash to other roms you need CWM (ClockWorkMod-a customized recovery mode for the phone) the thread in this post has links to odin flashable kernals with CWM for each software build. To get CWM flash the respective kernal for the version you use. You'll need odin to flash the new kernal, its essentially stock apart from CWM. In odin select PDA and browse to the kernal zip to flash it.
you can search around XDA for oneclickroots, they will typically be odin or CWM flashable it's quite straight forward. New roms will typically already be rooted so you shouldn't have to root again.
good luck!
Does anyone know which exact ODIN i need to flash to get back to 2.2 from download mode.
You can use adamoutler's uckb2 heimdall one click. That's stock 2.2.
But whitch ODIN do i use.
Gez, HTC is so much easier then this samsung!
David522d said:
But whitch ODIN do i use.
Gez, HTC is so much easier then this samsung!
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Unfortunately, there is currently no Odin one-click of stock Froyo (at least that I'm aware of). If you want stock Froyo, you'll need to either piece it together with full Odin, or use the Heimdall One-Click.
jmtheiss said:
Unfortunately, there is currently no Odin one-click of stock Froyo (at least that I'm aware of). If you want stock Froyo, you'll need to either piece it together with full Odin, or use the Heimdall One-Click.
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*Update*
I flashed the 2.2 from this http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/blog/?page_id=186
Now i need to root and install recovery please SOMEONE HELP ME!!!! im so ****ty with this crap. Soon as i get recovery ill be straight.
David522d said:
*Update*
I flashed the 2.2 from this http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/blog/?page_id=186
Now i need to root and install recovery please SOMEONE HELP ME!!!! im so ****ty with this crap. Soon as i get recovery ill be straight.
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Take a look in this post. That should get you the right 3E recovery.
Once you have that, you can either use ROM Manager to install CWM recovery, or see if you can find a kernel with it already baked in and use ODIN to flash the kernel (look for the speedmod kernel).
Or you could flash stock GB, but that updates bootloaders and is a whole different can of worms.
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Take a look in this post. That should get you the right 3E recovery.
Once you have that, you can either use ROM Manager to install CWM recovery, or see if you can find a kernel with it already baked in and use ODIN to flash the kernel (look for the speedmod kernel).
Or you could flash stock GB, but that updates bootloaders and is a whole different can of worms.
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wouldnt it be better to root first? My focus is just getting MIUI on this thing
Another update.
I rooted the 2.2 im on and now enabled non market apps to be downloaded.
Can someone now tell me how to install recovery and install custom ROMS!
i know i know im annoying, im sorry!
David522d said:
wouldnt it be better to root first? My focus is just getting MIUI on this thing
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Normally, the answer would be yes. However, as part of the Froyo update, AT&T managed to mess up the recovery menu, meaning that it won't flash unsigned packages. This makes getting CWM basically impossible without doing the steps in that post or flashing a different kernel.
You can root if you want to, but doing the steps in that post first will save you some headache.
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Normally, the answer would be yes. However, as part of the Froyo update, AT&T managed to mess up the recovery menu, meaning that it won't flash unsigned packages. This makes getting CWM basically impossible without doing the steps in that post or flashing a different kernel.
You can root if you want to, but doing the steps in that post first will save you some headache.
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I already rooted =/ , should i still try this?
If you have full ODIN, go here, and download the kernel labeled "speedmod-kernel-i897-k13c-500hz.tar" at the end of the first post. Open Odin, and in the "PDA" slot, navigate to the .tar file and flash it. That will get you the speedmod kernel, which has CWM, which you need to be able to flash.
Once it's flashed, just hold V+/V-/Power until it reboots, and then you'll be in CWM and can flash MIUI.
I'm assuming you've backed up all your apps with Titanium Backup, right? If you haven't, do that before you do anything else so you don't lose them.
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If you have full ODIN, go here, and download the kernel labeled "speedmod-kernel-i897-k13c-500hz.tar" at the end of the first post. Open Odin, and in the "PDA" slot, navigate to the .tar file and flash it. That will get you the speedmod kernel, which has CWM, which you need to be able to flash.
Once it's flashed, just hold V+/V-/Power until it reboots, and then you'll be in CWM and can flash MIUI.
I'm assuming you've backed up all your apps with Titanium Backup, right? If you haven't, do that before you do anything else so you don't lose them.
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Im not sure if i have "FULL" ODIN. I have the ODIN i just used to install 2.2. Then i rooted it using SUPER1CLICK.
Where do i get the full odin
So because I'm on a mac, i've gotta work 3 times as hard to get anything done..
but now with paralells running, things might get easier.
i tried to get my phone (froyo) onto gingerbread.. and it was working but glitchy.. then it stopped altogether.. i figured out the only way to get it unbricked was to go back to what it was originally via odin.
I'd like to get back to gb and check out all the roms, but dont want to waste more time..
so what i want to know is:
1. Custom roms are to be installed either (as in only) Odin or CWM?
2. If the Rom is GB, can it be installed on a phone thats running on Froyo (and vice versa)?
3. If #2 is true, I have to install GB before I do anything...?
4. Can I install GB it via Odin?
so before anyone jumps down my throat, A THOUSAND APOLOGIES for THIS NOOBISH BEHAVIOUR!!!
ok..
thanks!
umlaaat said:
So because I'm on a mac, i've gotta work 3 times as hard to get anything done..
but now with paralells running, things might get easier.
i tried to get my phone (froyo) onto gingerbread.. and it was working but glitchy.. then it stopped altogether.. i figured out the only way to get it unbricked was to go back to what it was originally via odin.
I'd like to get back to gb and check out all the roms, but dont want to waste more time..
so what i want to know is:
1. Custom roms are to be installed either (as in only) Odin or CWM?
2. If the Rom is GB, can it be installed on a phone thats running on Froyo (and vice versa)?
3. If #2 is true, I have to install GB before I do anything...?
4. Can I install GB it via Odin?
so before anyone jumps down my throat, A THOUSAND APOLOGIES for THIS NOOBISH BEHAVIOUR!!!
ok..
thanks!
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Go to this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16762954
follow the directions exactly, then I would suggest flashing Valhalla Final Rom by Whitehawx. IMO it is the best for the SGS4G by far. Good luck.
umlaaat said:
So because I'm on a mac, i've gotta work 3 times as hard to get anything done..
but now with paralells running, things might get easier.
i tried to get my phone (froyo) onto gingerbread.. and it was working but glitchy.. then it stopped altogether.. i figured out the only way to get it unbricked was to go back to what it was originally via odin.
I'd like to get back to gb and check out all the roms, but dont want to waste more time..
so what i want to know is:
1. Custom roms are to be installed either (as in only) Odin or CWM?
2. If the Rom is GB, can it be installed on a phone thats running on Froyo (and vice versa)?
3. If #2 is true, I have to install GB before I do anything...?
4. Can I install GB it via Odin?
so before anyone jumps down my throat, A THOUSAND APOLOGIES for THIS NOOBISH BEHAVIOUR!!!
ok..
thanks!
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If it were me I'd use the 1-click method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19601787
There is a Mac version of that program.
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda premium
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1. Custom roms are to be installed either (as in only) Odin or CWM?
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No. Custom ROMs can also be installed via Heimdall.
umlaaat said:
2. If the Rom is GB, can it be installed on a phone thats running on Froyo (and vice versa)?
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Yes, it can. The catch is that the ROM you install must have the proper GB boot loaders, else you'll end up with the "rainbow" screen or boot looping. Ditto for downgrading from GB to Froyo; you want to make sure the ROM has the right boot loaders.
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3. If #2 is true, I have to install GB before I do anything...?
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Not necessarily, but possibly. If your custom ROM has the right boot loaders (only important when going from Froyo to GB and the other way around - going from one GB ROM to another doesn't matter) then you don't need to flash a stock GB ROM first. I'm a fan of flashing stock, wiping all of the caches (cache partition and Davlik cache), then flashing a custom ROM. That might be extraneous but I feel it gives me a cleaner slate from which to start.
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Surely, as long as it has the right boot loaders or if you're already on GB.
umlaaat said:
so before anyone jumps down my throat, A THOUSAND APOLOGIES for THIS NOOBISH BEHAVIOUR!!!
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Nah, no jumping down your throat. Your questions are quite valid.
umlaaat said:
thanks!
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Quite welcome. Like one of the other posters said, the one-click methods are great for flashing. They utilize Heimdall, which is an open-source alternative to ODIN. They also only require you have Java installed to use them as they come packaged with Heimdall. Heimdall is cross-platform and is available for Windows, MAC, and Linux.
Best of luck.
well let me just say this before someone decides to flame you. I haven't seen any "CUSTOM" rom for our device that requires heimdall to flash. all are flashed via CwM.
to the op, I highly suggest using the search feature before posting. read the bible thread and also the starter for flashing from froyo to gingerbread or the one click method for kj6.
and trust me when I say this, once you go to gingerbread, you most likely won't wanna go back to froyo. since this device received the OTA for gingerbread, most of the issues we had with the leaks are gone. just my 2 cents worth though.
sent from within pure darkness.
droidmyst said:
well let me just say this before someone decides to flame you. I haven't seen any "CUSTOM" rom for our device that requires heimdall to flash. all are flashed via CwM.
to the op, I highly suggest using the search feature before posting. read the bible thread and also the starter for flashing from froyo to gingerbread or the one click method for kj6.
and trust me when I say this, once you go to gingerbread, you most likely won't wanna go back to froyo. since this device received the OTA for gingerbread, most of the issues we had with the leaks are gone. just my 2 cents worth though.
sent from within pure darkness.
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Depends on your definition of custom, I guess. Custom to me is non-stock, not necessarily tweaked for performance or anything. Bryan's one-clicks are custom ROMs, as they have modded kernels, cwm, root, etc.
I'm a Mac. I have OS X Lion. I do everything from that.
stephen_w said:
No. Custom ROMs can also be installed via Heimdall.
Yes, it can. The catch is that the ROM you install must have the proper GB boot loaders, else you'll end up with the "rainbow" screen or boot looping. Ditto for downgrading from GB to Froyo; you want to make sure the ROM has the right boot loaders.
Not necessarily, but possibly. If your custom ROM has the right boot loaders (only important when going from Froyo to GB and the other way around - going from one GB ROM to another doesn't matter) then you don't need to flash a stock GB ROM first. I'm a fan of flashing stock, wiping all of the caches (cache partition and Davlik cache), then flashing a custom ROM. That might be extraneous but I feel it gives me a cleaner slate from which to start.
Surely, as long as it has the right boot loaders or if you're already on GB.
Nah, no jumping down your throat. Your questions are quite valid.
Quite welcome. Like one of the other posters said, the one-click methods are great for flashing. They utilize Heimdall, which is an open-source alternative to ODIN. They also only require you have Java installed to use them as they come packaged with Heimdall. Heimdall is cross-platform and is available for Windows, MAC, and Linux.
Best of luck.
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firstly, you guys f-ing rock..
ok. so the problems i had yesterday were due to Heimdall. The GUI is def easier and better looking but for some reason could not load the PIT file. If you were to flash without bootloaders, it would be ok (though only after a while), and even then only for the first flash..
And it did work the first time because I trashed the .kext in the system>ext folder.
Outside of being able to go into download mode, my phone was completely bricked.. nada. just the 4 lights (for the icons) would light.
So after HOURS of trying to google what the hell is a PIT file and how can i get Heimdall to install, I got ODIN to work on Parallels.
THIS unbricked my phone and i am now back to where I started.
I am PETRIFIED of this happening again but still want to go custom ROM...
So, in my limited experience with all things Android, I've found:
I can only flash with Heimdall if bootloaders box is unchecked
This is what "About Phone" says:
firmware: 2.2.1
Kernel: 2.6.32.9
Build: FROYO.VUVKD1
1. Can I install GB with ODIN?
2. Whats the difference btw using ODIN and Heimdall?
3. Are odin, heimdall and clockwork mod the same thing (ie they are all used to flash roms)?
4. Just to be on the safe side, i should install GB first before flashing any ROMS otherwise i go into "Rainbow Brite" mode?
5. Once i goto GB and once the phone is rooted, I'm pretty much good to go as far as flashing different ROMs?
6. Is the difference btw FROYO and GB the same as Windows XP and 2000 (OS 10.3 vs. 10.6 for my Mac ppl)?
btw, I'm asking these question bc i got HAMMERED (not in the alcoholic sense but like i've been beaten up by 4 large men) last night and was up till 6 trying to unbrick my ish... And YES I googled the HELL out of this site and the internet at large for these answers.. keep in mind there are like 144 pages per thread topic and maybe 3 posts are MAC related.
thanks and once again you guys f-ing ROCK!
umlaaat said:
firstly, you guys f-ing rock..
ok. so the problems i had yesterday were due to Heimdall. The GUI is def easier and better looking but for some reason could not load the PIT file. If you were to flash without bootloaders, it would be ok (though only after a while), and even then only for the first flash..
And it did work the first time because I trashed the .kext in the system>ext folder.
Outside of being able to go into download mode, my phone was completely bricked.. nada. just the 4 lights (for the icons) would light.
So after HOURS of trying to google what the hell is a PIT file and how can i get Heimdall to install, I got ODIN to work on Parallels.
THIS unbricked my phone and i am now back to where I started.
I am PETRIFIED of this happening again but still want to go custom ROM...
So, in my limited experience with all things Android, I've found:
I can only flash with Heimdall if bootloaders box is unchecked
This is what "About Phone" says:
firmware: 2.2.1
Kernel: 2.6.32.9
Build: FROYO.VUVKD1
1. Can I install GB with ODIN?
2. Whats the difference btw using ODIN and Heimdall?
3. Are odin, heimdall and clockwork mod the same thing (ie they are all used to flash roms)?
4. Just to be on the safe side, i should install GB first before flashing any ROMS otherwise i go into "Rainbow Brite" mode?
5. Once i goto GB and once the phone is rooted, I'm pretty much good to go as far as flashing different ROMs?
6. Is the difference btw FROYO and GB the same as Windows XP and 2000 (OS 10.3 vs. 10.6 for my Mac ppl)?
btw, I'm asking these question bc i got HAMMERED (not in the alcoholic sense but like i've been beaten up by 4 large men) last night and was up till 6 trying to unbrick my ish... And YES I googled the HELL out of this site and the internet at large for these answers.. keep in mind there are like 144 pages per thread topic and maybe 3 posts are MAC related.
thanks and once again you guys f-ing ROCK!
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The best advice I can give you is to use the GB Ext4 Starter Pack I mentioned in a earlier post. It will provide you everything you need to upgrade to Gingerbread. If you follow the directions in that thread you can't go wrong. Also as I said in my earlier post, if you want a Rom that is bug free and that everything works fine try Valhalla Final. Ive tried most of the GB Roms but I always wind up going back to it. No offence to the other Devs.
umlaaat said:
1. Can I install GB with ODIN?
2. Whats the difference btw using ODIN and Heimdall?
3. Are odin, heimdall and clockwork mod the same thing (ie they are all used to flash roms)?
4. Just to be on the safe side, i should install GB first before flashing any ROMS otherwise i go into "Rainbow Brite" mode?
5. Once i goto GB and once the phone is rooted, I'm pretty much good to go as far as flashing different ROMs?
6. Is the difference btw FROYO and GB the same as Windows XP and 2000 (OS 10.3 vs. 10.6 for my Mac ppl)?
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1. Yes. although personally I would still use heimdall even if you have to run a parallel
2. Personal preference. I find heimdall easier. I give my other opinions on the subject in my guide. reference post 2.
3. in the sense you are asking yes.
4. You should ensure froyo boot loaders for froyo ROMs and GB boot loaders for GB ROMs. We have both.
5. you can flash a ROM via heimdall or Odin no matter the state of your device as long as you can bout to download mode. To flash with cwm you must have cwm recovery installed. In the case of this device it it's included in custom kernels.
6. Although this is not entirely true, for most that is a good comparison yes.
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Bassmanjames said:
1. Yes. although personally I would still use heimdall even if you have to run a parallel
2. Personal preference. I find heimdall easier. I give my other opinions on the subject in my guide. reference post 2.
3. in the sense you are asking yes.
4. You should ensure froyo boot loaders for froyo ROMs and GB boot loaders for GB ROMs. We have both.
5. you can flash a ROM via heimdall or Odin no matter the state of your device as long as you can bout to download mode. To flash with cwm you must have cwm recovery installed. In the case of this device it it's included in custom kernels.
6. Although this is not entirely true, for most that is a good comparison yes.
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ok. so i'm downloading heimdall suite 1.3.1 for WINDOWS (dear god...) and will follow its rather extremely long and convoluted directions...
but hold on.. I was reading the directions for Valhalla Final and it says you must have pre installed kernel with clockwork recovery.. does Heimdall have/do this?
If so, I guess (according to the instructions) I can just reboot back into clockwork recovery...
Please correct if i'm wrong:
To flash via Heimdall or ODIN you have to use a Mac/PC. To flash via CWM, you just have to restart via recovery mode and CWM does the rest?
Heimdall 1.3.1 (the file you download from http://www.glassechidna.com.au/products/heimdall/) is an application that installs the DRIVERS into your phone so that you can flash custom ROMS?
Does Heimdall install GB or FROYO bootloaders? - How can you tell?
Is bootloaders the same as drivers?
The terminology is confusing, and (i think) i'm starting to understand:
In the Heindall instructions, it says "If the ROM is not a Heimdall Firmware Package it may instead be provided as multiple archives"
So "Heimdall Firmware Packages" is the same thing as a Custom ROM?
Once again thanks!!!
umlaaat said:
ok. so i'm downloading heimdall suite 1.3.1 for WINDOWS (dear god...) and will follow its rather extremely long and convoluted directions...
but hold on.. I was reading the directions for Valhalla Final and it says you must have pre installed kernel with clockwork recovery.. does Heimdall have/do this?
If so, I guess (according to the instructions) I can just reboot back into clockwork recovery...
Please correct if i'm wrong:
To flash via Heimdall or ODIN you have to use a Mac/PC. To flash via CWM, you just have to restart via recovery mode and CWM does the rest?
Heimdall 1.3.1 (the file you download from http://www.glassechidna.com.au/products/heimdall/) is an application that installs the DRIVERS into your phone so that you can flash custom ROMS?
Does Heimdall install GB or FROYO bootloaders? - How can you tell?
Is bootloaders the same as drivers?
The terminology is confusing, and (i think) i'm starting to understand:
In the Heindall instructions, it says "If the ROM is not a Heimdall Firmware Package it may instead be provided as multiple archives"
So "Heimdall Firmware Packages" is the same thing as a Custom ROM?
Once again thanks!!!
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The one click setup is pre programmed to flash as the packager intended. Heimdall front end can be difficult to learn. Use the kj6 beta 2d file as I recommended before (cwm included). It looks like you understand the rest. Sad to see this be so difficult for Mac users
Btw not aimed at you directly
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Bassmanjames said:
The one click setup is pre programmed to flash as the packager intended. Heimdall front end can be difficult to learn. Use the kj6 beta 2d file as I recommended before (cwm included). It looks like you understand the rest. Sad to see this be so difficult for Mac users
Btw not aimed at you directly
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ok. so I will use the kj6 beta 2d file (that i download thru Heimdall) but the WINDOWS version.
I will then download a custom ROM (onto the parallels window)
and then flash it thru Heimdall
then it will work.
right?
omg.. wait a second..
so do i have to flash the kj6 beta 2d file via heimdall 1.3.1??
Is kj6 beta 2d file a ROM?
Because I've been trying to open this and use THIS as the app to flash a ROM that I found looks cool..
If so, why do I need to flash with kj6 beta 2d file first?
wow.. ok
so whenever I try to load a ROM via Heimdall frontend, I get "Tar header contained an invalid file size"...
!!!!!!!!!!!!
umlaaat said:
wow.. ok
so whenever I try to load a ROM via Heimdall frontend, I get "Tar header contained an invalid file size"...
!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You're trying to load a .jar file into heimdall. The .jar files are "executables" that open with java. If you read the op for the one-click file you're most likely trying to use you'll get instructions as to how to make it work.
Basically you need to install java. Google "download java" and install it onto windows then you can run the one click file on windows.
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You're trying to load a .jar file into heimdall. The .jar files are "executables" that open with java. If you read the op for the one-click file you're most likely trying to use you'll get instructions as to how to make it work.
Basically you need to install java. Google "download java" and install it onto windows then you can run the one click file on windows.
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no, same thing. I loaded heimdall frontend, clicked on "heimdall firmware package" selected, first: "SMS-KJ6-beta2d_Stock-Rom_with_Bootloaders-One-Click" got the same Tar error message, then selected "sgs4g-OfficalGB2.3.6-NOCIQ-Octane v3.0" (another ROM i downloaded) - same Tar error message.
Googled and found JAVA, installed it, cant verify that I have it because I have to configure the net to with my version of windows (thru parallels), but when i tried installing it again, it said it was already installed so i'm guessing its working.
Rebooted, tried the whole process again, same damn thing,
Tried ODIN (I'm using ODIN3 1.85), and clicked on PDA, selected a ROM, some activity, but then nothing happens... Theres nothing in the ID:COM column, auto reboot and f. reset time is CHECKED
If it makes any difference i'm on Windows XP Pro SP3
umlaaat said:
no, same thing. I loaded heimdall frontend, clicked on "heimdall firmware package" selected, first: "SMS-KJ6-beta2d_Stock-Rom_with_Bootloaders-One-Click" got the same Tar error message, then selected "sgs4g-OfficalGB2.3.6-NOCIQ-Octane v3.0" (another ROM i downloaded) - same Tar error message.
Googled and found JAVA, installed it, cant verify that I have it because I have to configure the net to with my version of windows (thru parallels), but when i tried installing it again, it said it was already installed so i'm guessing its working.
Rebooted, tried the whole process again, same damn thing,
Tried ODIN (I'm using ODIN3 1.85), and clicked on PDA, selected a ROM, some activity, but then nothing happens... Theres nothing in the ID:COM column, auto reboot and f. reset time is CHECKED
If it makes any difference i'm on Windows XP Pro SP3
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Dude it's the same as the first time you flashed it. Exit heimdall front end! run the file (beta 2d) you downloaded. flash, leave the one click open, reboot to download mode flash again with boot loaders box check. Enjoy ginger bread stock with root and cwm recovery.
Be respectful
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Don't know the mac side of this... but after reading the thread I haven't seen anybody clearly say...
Flash the custom rom with CWM after you do what james just said.
You need to get gb with CWM through Heimdall first and only (SMS-KJ6-beta2d_Stock-Rom_with_Bootloaders-One-Click).
After you successfully do that forget Heimdall, have whatever custom rom you want on root of your sd card, reboot into cwm recovery and install custom rom along with whatever other instructions the op of the custom rom states (i.e. clear cache, mounts, etc).
Add: And no beta kj6 beta 2d isn't a rom. It is a kernal. The kj6 beta 2d is the custom kernal that gives you CWM to flash the custom roms. "SMS-KJ6-beta2d_Stock-Rom_with_Bootloaders-One-Click" is a rom with the kj6 beta 2d kernal.
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Heimdall or ODIN are programs used to flash Samsung made roms that have 6 basic files. Kernel(zImage), /System(Factoryfs.rfs), /data(data.rfs), Modem(Modem.bin), Primary Bootloader(boot.bin), and Secondary Bootloader(sbl.bin).
Custom roms are made by us. We take their files, hack and mod them to our liking, add root(the ability to change the system while using the phone), and flash them.
In order to flash the custom roms, we either repack the modded files into the factoryfs.rfs to flash via ODIN or Heimdall, or we do the easy one we flash via CWM which doesn't need a computer.
CWM is a type of android recovery. Recovery is used for stock android (AOSP) phones to be given updates. Samsung doesn't do so, they make us use Kies. The reason samsung still has recovery is because android requires it for booting, also if you need to wipe data or etc. Recovery is the only way to do so.
The purpose of CWM is tor replace the stock recovery with one that can flash custom made zip files that aren't signed by Samsung, as well as do additional features.
The android recovery on this device is embedded into the kernel. That is why CWM requires us to flash a different kernel.
I hope you learn from this.
I need to move back to GB for wi-fi calling purposes (I live in a hovel) and so I followed the One-Click directions but DID NOT load bootloaders as it seemed like there may be some issues in doing so.
Now I'm interested in installing Vahalla Black but when I try to install the zip file for it, it says something to the effect of "install /sdcard", opens it and tries to verify the update package and then says the e-signature verification failed.
Do I need to load bootloaders? I don't have CWM, only Android System Recovery (it's stock). I've also re-downloaded VB Final just in case there was a bad download of it but still got the error.
It sounds like you used the Heimdal One-Click that took you back to stock. If so, you need to flash a custom kernel to flash a custom ROM.
lumin30 said:
It sounds like you used the Heimdal One-Click that took you back to stock. If so, you need to flash a custom kernel to flash a custom ROM.
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Yes, that's exactly what I did. Wasn't aware I need to flash a custom kernel and then a custom ROM. I'll do that and see if it fixes things. Thanks!
NVM, got the thing to work proper ly now. Love the long battery life and Wi-Fi calling! Forgotten how much I missed it here in the hollow