[Q] Why is the TF101 at the back of the ICS queue when it was at the front ? - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

The Transformer was stated to be one of the first devices, and definitely was told to be the first tablet to be getting ICS - how come it is just about the only android device without even a half working port yet ?
Yea I seen the videos of the devs using a sideways port, but most other devices have a public port released - whats going on ?
Is the real reason behind the Prime delay actually a huge show stopper with ICS and the Transformer range ?

sooo many problems with that. the devs are working hard to get everything working and asus has said that we will have icecream before christmas. we will probobly be the first "or seccond" tablet to get OFFICIAL ICS and also the prime isnt being delayed people need to calm down

Thanks, I`m not waiting for the Prime, just going on what I have heard, reviews from trusted testers who also confirm a wireless issue
Personally I don't care if it does or doesnt, I have the TF101, just seems like the Transformer should have been the easiest to make an ICS ROM for over devices that don't even support it
Appreciate the hard work the devs are putting in, I was just wondering if there was any link between the two

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just seems like the Transformer should have been the easiest to make an ICS ROM for over devices that don't even support it
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What makes you think it would be the easiest? Because Asus said they would release an official update to ICS before the new year? I haven't seen anything that would lead one to assume that the Transformer would be easier to port ICS to than any other device.
How do you define "devices that don't even support it" as well? Do you mean devices that the manufacturer has not released ICS for? That would be all devices (excluding leaks) apart from the Galaxy Nexus at this stage.

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just seems like the Transformer should have been the easiest to make an ICS ROM for over devices that don't even support it
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Nope. Almost all Honeycomb tablets use the nVidia Tegra 2 chipset. The ICS source that was released was for the Galaxy Nexus, which uses a TI OMAP chipset. Sure, they're both ARM devices, but there's a lot of variation within the ARM family... and nVidia are famously bad at making source code available to help people develop for their platforms.

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[Q] Android 3.1?

Has the transformer received android 3.1 yet because it has become available for tablets like the motorola xoom
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No, not yet. 3.1 was just announced today and is only rolling out to Verizon Xooms. For the moment, no other tablet, including the Wifi Xoom, is getting the update.
Nope. It ain't that easy, unfortunately. Each hardware manufacturer has to fine tune their device to make it compatible with the upgrade, or better phrased, to take advantage of all new features. It's not all Steve Job's happy Apple world out there where one update is good for all devices, no matter if a small or big phone
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It's not all Steve Job's happy Apple world out there where one update is good for all devices, no matter if a small or big phone
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Wrong ;P iPad/iPhone GSM/iPhone CDMA/iPod Touch use different firmwares.
We have no idea how long they've had access to the 3.1 code or what their process is for testing updates. If they (ASUS) are really proactive about updating, I would think that it would be at least 30 days until we see or hear about an update for the Transformer. If it's sooner, I'll be thrilled.
I highly doubt we'll be getting it this year even. Asus's main priority is (or should be) getting these devices stocked and sold as soon as possible because they'll be taking a huge hit once the Galaxy Tabs become available. They're not even thinking about fixing/upgrading the software.
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Wrong ;P iPad/iPhone GSM/iPhone CDMA/iPod Touch use different firmwares.
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See, not even THAT world is perfect LOL
akarol said:
I highly doubt we'll be getting it this year even. Asus's main priority is (or should be) getting these devices stocked and sold as soon as possible because they'll be taking a huge hit once the Galaxy Tabs become available. They're not even thinking about fixing/upgrading the software.
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I don't think they move the guys from software development to shipping/receiving depending on demand...
akarol said:
I highly doubt we'll be getting it this year even. Asus's main priority is (or should be) getting these devices stocked and sold as soon as possible because they'll be taking a huge hit once the Galaxy Tabs become available. They're not even thinking about fixing/upgrading the software.
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Software developement and production are handled by different groups. One wouldn't impact the other. They can work on getting software ready then deliver it via OTA update.
If Asus doesn't provide the update within a month, or announces soon that that they're working on it and it will be out soon, this will be going up for sale for either the Xoom (again) or the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Yep, same here. I'll wait for something else...
And they had better be working on updates, at least fixing the 60%+ of people who can't use their dock doorstops...
Bugs are part of computers, and we are early adopters but I am not very pleased about not being able to use it at all right now...
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I don't think they move the guys from software development to shipping/receiving depending on demand...
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LMAO, exactly what I was thinking. I don't give a crap what my marketing/production team is doing, I'm still a code-monkey and would want to be proactive to fix all the found bugs in my current software.
I think Asus will release Android 3.1 for the Transformer in the next 2 to 3 weeks. It would make sense that they have the code already as a manufacturer, and they would want to stay ahead of the Galaxy tab 10.1 which seems like will be realease with 3.1 installed.
Just my opinion,
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I don't think they move the guys from software development to shipping/receiving depending on demand...
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Ha! Exactly.
WANTED: Android developer. Must also be able to lift heavy boxes for prolonged periods of time.
Wow. Android 3.1 was just announced this morning and already people are threatening to buy something else if Asus doesn't release the update. Yeesh.
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Let them get the current bugs squashed, especially w/ the keyboard dock, then let's worry about getting 3.1.
Given the demand for the TF, I would think that they would have an interest in keeping it at the top of the heap for as long as possible - i.e. get it updated w/ the latest iteration of HC as quickly as possible.
Of COURSE they'll want to get updated as soon as possible. Why wouldn't they? I swear, people are getting more and more ridiculous every day. In every forum for every product, if a company doesn't announce something within 15 minutes of someone demanding it, people start pulling out the tar and feathers.
I mean, seriously, why WOULDN'T Asus update the Transformer? What reason do we have for believing they won't? The only examples we have of what Asus might do with this product has been provided by the two updates they've issued in about a month, the presence of Asus personnel on this very forum helping people out with an unfortunate glitch with the last update, issuing a fixed update for manual install on their Web site within days of the glitch being identified (which required working on it over the weekend), and in general communicating better than I've seen any other Android manufacturer communicate in recent memory.
I say, if we haven't heard about an update to 3.1 within 30 days of today, then we'd have some reason to complain and wonder when we'll get one. But a few hours after it was announced by Google? Seriously?
Ye gads, people, get lives, will you?
(Rant over.)
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Yes, because the same three guys that developed the Tablet are the same 3 guys that fullfill orders and then package them and ship them!
Why are people do so willing to (threaten to) sell their Transformer if there's no announcement? How long till the other tablets get 3.1. You know, the old Samsung Tab, the G-Slate, the Viewsonic GTablet, etc. Oh that's right... nobody knows.
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I don't think they move the guys from software development to shipping/receiving depending on demand...
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LOL, didn't Amazon used to make it's upper level people work in any dept that needed extra manpower?

[Q] Eee Pad Transformer Unsupported ?!

Just wondering since the "New" Eee Pad Transformer was teased...
Will Asus continue to support the old Transformer or not ?
and for how long it will get Updates and stuff ??
Nobody can tell the future, so I hope your question is answered. ASUS will push updates IMO, until they can do it without issues to the Tegra2 SoC.
Sounds like a good question to email Asus... unless of course Asus is here to reply.
sage55 said:
Sounds like a good question to email Asus... unless of course Asus is here to reply.
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Not a chance. Big companies often don't converse with the community.
Look, to answer the OP, Shih (the chairman of asus) has already said the TF1 will be getting ICS update sometime in November. This is a clear indication it will continue be supported.
Tegra 2 won't be obsolete anytime soon.
That said, if you want the latest and greatest, then sell your TF1 right now and wait for the TF2. Or better yet, sell your TF1 and get an ipad 2.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/10/20/a...r-prime-tablet-with-quad-core-nvidia-tegra-3/
Quote from debut.....
" He also let the cat out of the bag for the original Transformer and any Ice Cream Sandwich plans, when asked if ASUS would have it by the end of the year he replied "Maybe earlier than that"."
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Agreed it's all but guarantied that the TF will be getting ICS and from there we leave it up to the Dev community and Roms like CM9 and such
xMini said:
Just wondering since the "New" Eee Pad Transformer was teased...
Will Asus continue to support the old Transformer or not ?
and for how long it will get Updates and stuff ??
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It was in the announcement. They are going to continue to support it for 34 days after they release the TF2 except for you, they are going to stop supporting it for you 10 days before they release the TF2. Sorry, I guess they just don't like you.
/sarcasm. Nobody really knows how long they will but since they will be pushing out ICS and the TF shares its guts with the Xoom (google's reference device) Im betting we will be seeing updates as long as the Xoom does, either officially or unofficially.
Asus just tweeted (it's in another thread as well) that ICS is coming to the Transformer. Case closed.
At this point, given that Asus has been absolutely the best at updating its tablet, we have zero reason to doubt them. I think that when a company has demonstrated their commitment to supporting a device, as Asus has, we should give them the proper credit for doing so.
Yes, Asus has been great. But at some point the updates will eventually stop, that just they way it is. Even then The TF with ICS will still be useful. Not to mention most of us will move on the newer devices.
I can see my TF becoming a secondary device and getting a newer one, but that will likely be well into next year or 2013.
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Yes, Asus has been great. But at some point the updates will eventually stop, that just they way it is. Even then The TF with ICS will still be useful. Not to mention most of us will move on the newer devices.
I can see my TF becoming a secondary device and getting a newer one, but that will likely be well into next year or 2013.
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That's Exactly why i asked this Question...
I'm Trying keep this device for two years IF it's possible...
IF they didn't support it for long time and Especially "Tegra2" chip then the device will be almost useless...

Android 4.0.3 source code being pushed to AOSP

http://www.androidcentral.com/android-403-source-code-being-pushed-aosp#comments
how does this affect the build of ics for the g2x?
Motorola Xoom was in their. Tegra 2 device... interested for sure.
Android 4.0.3 kernel sources pushed
https://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/ff4e97808535b396?pli=1
all this could be old news. the devs might be one step ahead on this. i just want to help out as much as i can. i hate not having any news on the devs work. i still love what you guys done so far. dont give up and dont let it die.
Xoom has a 4.0.3 port.
Xoom hw is not the same. Not the same board
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well if this post has nothing to offer to the build of ics for the g2x can the mod. please delete this post. i dont need this to take up space. thanks
i was under the impression that the source code for the tegra 2 kernel, and not the source code for ics itself was the issue.
Thats not entirely correct. ICS changed the way certain interfaces behaved especially HW accelerated graphics. Under Gingerbread, the system expected round peg and the nVidia blob provided round peg.
The problem is now ICS wants square peg. The blob we have only ever provides round peg.
There were three potential solutions to this problem:
1) nVidia releases source code and developers update as needed. This is how development works on the Qualcomm and TI driven devices which are basically fully open. This is also why you see old as dirt devices like the G1 updated far beyond their last "official" ROM.
2) nVidia releases an ICS compatible blob. This is what we can hopefully pull from the Xoom tree. It leaves us dependent on nVidia for "substantial" updates, like when interfaces change but would probably allow for a number of updates. There are Gingerbread ROMs that use Froyo kernels as an example.
3) Developers rewrite the interfaces in question to accept round peg. In the case of HW acceleration, this would mean back-porting the Gingerbread method of HW acceleration. It would work but would be labor intensive to maintain and may introduce instability or comparability issues in apps that specifically expect the ICS method. Think, for example, Swype talking about having to rewrite the keyboard to accomidate the way the screen is presented to programs.
I am not a ROM developer but I have college level programming experience and a pretty decent understanding of the technical issues here.
nVidia was never going to release their source. They have always maintained their source code as confidential and proprietary and as far as I know they've not released source for anything as far back as the Riva TNT.
In other product lines, the reason for this is that they differentiate some features through software. In essence the HW is capable of more and the software locks it away. Back in the day there was a GeForce to Quadro softmod that drastically increased performance in some programs.
I don't really know if thats the case here, nobody does. nVidia only wants you to access what they sell you not what the HW is capable of.
Personally, I hope the blob for the Xoom helps the CM team. I imagine we will know shortly.
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i was under the impression that the source code for the tegra 2 kernel, and not the source code for ics itself was the issue.
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That was the most intelligent and courteous explanation I have ever read here on xda. Now watch all the omniscient people strike it down.
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TerryMathews said:
Thats not entirely correct. ICS changed the way certain interfaces behaved especially HW accelerated graphics. Under Gingerbread, the system expected round peg and the nVidia blob provided round peg.
The problem is now ICS wants square peg. The blob we have only ever provides round peg.
There were three potential solutions to this problem:
1) nVidia releases source code and developers update as needed. This is how development works on the Qualcomm and TI driven devices which are basically fully open. This is also why you see old as dirt devices like the G1 updated far beyond their last "official" ROM.
2) nVidia releases an ICS compatible blob. This is what we can hopefully pull from the Xoom tree. It leaves us dependent on nVidia for "substantial" updates, like when interfaces change but would probably allow for a number of updates. There are Gingerbread ROMs that use Froyo kernels as an example.
3) Developers rewrite the interfaces in question to accept round peg. In the case of HW acceleration, this would mean back-porting the Gingerbread method of HW acceleration. It would work but would be labor intensive to maintain and may introduce instability or comparability issues in apps that specifically expect the ICS method. Think, for example, Swype talking about having to rewrite the keyboard to accomidate the way the screen is presented to programs.
I am not a ROM developer but I have college level programming experience and a pretty decent understanding of the technical issues here.
nVidia was never going to release their source. They have always maintained their source code as confidential and proprietary and as far as I know they've not released source for anything as far back as the Riva TNT.
In other product lines, the reason for this is that they differentiate some features through software. In essence the HW is capable of more and the software locks it away. Back in the day there was a GeForce to Quadro softmod that drastically increased performance in some programs.
I don't really know if thats the case here, nobody does. nVidia only wants you to access what they sell you not what the HW is capable of.
Personally, I hope the blob for the Xoom helps the CM team. I imagine we will know shortly.
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Absolutely right. I don't have any hope at all regarding the Xoom blobs though, as they are not the same board type, and thus likely will not be compatible.
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You are totally right but nvidia is planning to release the drivers for tegra 2 platform in Q1 of 2012, if you haven't heard it yet. Here is the link:
http://forums.developer.nvidia.com/devforum/discussion/comment/3236?Sort=popular
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ironman159 said:
You are totally right but nvidia is planning to release the drivers for tegra 2 platform in Q1 of 2012, if you haven't heard it yet. Here is the link:
http://forums.developer.nvidia.com/devforum/discussion/comment/3236?Sort=popular
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I dont see any dateline regarding nVidia will release tegra2 drivers in Q1 of 2012 here (http://forums.developer.nvidia.com/devforum/discussion/comment/3236?Sort=popular). Am I missing sth?
It says early next year.
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It says early next year.
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+1 early could mean the first half of 2012.
NVIDIA NEVER AGAIN!
By Summer.
We will have cm9 and other ICS roms probaly by the end of January-mid February. LG and Nvidia could learn much from our talented devs that do all this for free and the joy of it.
Drivers Release?
IF Nvidia is going to release the necessary drivers, does this mean we might see our camera features back again on future ICS roms?
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IF Nvidia is going to release the necessary drivers, does this mean we might see our camera features back again on future ICS roms?
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This might mean nothing unless lg releases there stuff too. Lg changed some things for this device. I'm not sure but I think lg did something weird to get the tegra 2 to work with the board they designed. nvidia said lg needs to release there changes too for what we are trying to do.
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Is ICS going to be worth it?

I know that many are excited about the 'sweetness' of ICS that's suppose to drop this month. I did have a TF Prime for 2 weeks (returned it due to issues). I miss the shiny svelte tab for sure, but it had way too many issues to deal with. No thx on being a BETA tester for ASUS unless they decide to send me a tablet for free.
Anyway it seems we've been hearing/talking about ICS for ages now (in fact it's only been 9 months or so I'd guess). When details where finally released on it, I admit I was somewhat disappointed.
Sure for people on Gingerbread, ICS is a huge step forward, but for all of us that have been using HC for up to nearly a year now, it didn't seem to offer that much.
Looking over wikipedia the only thing that I see that gets me excited is Hardware Acceleration of the UI, just about every other feature either exists in HC, is available in apps, or makes little difference to those of us using a TF101 (IMHO).
Now i will admit that once the Dev's create a stable ROM I'll drop that onto the device but I'm just not that excited for a new font. I do think that ICS being both a tablet and phone OS is good going forward for app development, and we should see those advantages play out over time in a more stable environment as well as more available apps, but as it stands currently I'm just not that excited for ICS.
I just looked at Platform stats;
Cupcake 0.6%
Donut 1.0%
Eclair 7.6%
Froyo 27.8%
Gingerbread 58.6%
Honeycomb 3.4%
Ice Cream Sandwich 1.0%
Talk about different user experiences ....WOW....I wish that Google could somehow shut down everything prior to Gingerbread, and force everyone up, with at least 37% of devices using these long outdated OS versions, it's no wonder that we constantly hear the 'fragmented' comment about Android.
I'm not sure what kind of ground breaking innovative features you were expecting in ICS. Although I agree that some of these features are available with third party apps, I believe your average everyday user will benefit from having them built in rather than needing to search through the market once they hear of some feature they would enjoy. You have to remember that we are almost surely the minority of overall Android users here on XDA compared to the general public, as we are more comfortable tinkering with our devices than others. And anything that can bring Android tablets closer to on par with the iPad, currently at the top of the tablet world, is a benefit to the Android platform and is "worth it."
As far as the fragmentation goes, I don't think the different OS versions you mentioned are what most people refer to as the "fragmentation" of Android. Rather, it is the manufacturers skin (HTC's Sense, Motorola MotoBlur, etc.) of each platform, which can be confusing to common users when switching between them. However, this is part of the beauty of Android; users can pick which skin suits them best, or as power users such as those of us on XDA can do, change the Android software if we like the hardware of the device but don't care for the software. Granted, more to your point, most iPhone users are probably on IOS 4 or above compared to those on Gingerbread or above, although I can't verify this fact with a quick Google search.
IMHO, I'm more excited to see CyanogenMod 9 on the TF101 than ICS in general. I've been a loyal user of Android Revolution HD, but I'm looking forward to see what the CM team has to offer in regards to the options/customizations available seen in every other CM ROM (AR is based on stock TF101 ROM, with plenty of enhancements of course).
If you would have tried out paulburton's ICS port you would see the truly immense differences that it brings. Honeycomb was not a finished product on is release and was only pushed out to compete with the iPad so there were a lot of things wrong with it. Now with ICS we will have a smother experience along with greater uniformity. The promise of CM9 is just the icing on the cake
Yeah I'm looking forward to CM9 on the TF101 as well...I did try out an Ipad2 after i returned my Prime. I didn't find much that i could criticize about the device ( other then price)....the thing was solid and just worked (which is more then i can say about the Prime)....I'm looking forward to the MeMo hopefully by then ICS will have been patched up to a level that makes it robust. The padphone as well looks good (and being able to use this dock is sweet)...but i do wonder if it will even make its way to NA
As for expectations for ICS....I don't know maybe I thought we'd see something revolutionary....like User profiles....more support for external devices like DVD drives... native printer support
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Yeah I'm looking forward to CM9 on the TF101 as well...I did try out an Ipad2 after i returned my Prime. I didn't find much that i could criticize about the device ( other then price)....the thing was solid and just worked (which is more then i can say about the Prime)....I'm looking forward to the MeMo hopefully by then ICS will have been patched up to a level that makes it robust. The padphone as well looks good (and being able to use this dock is sweet)...but i do wonder if it will even make its way to NA
As for expectations for ICS....I don't know maybe I thought we'd see something revolutionary....like User profiles....more support for external devices like DVD drives... native printer support
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lol its a mobile OS not linux..
blickmanic said:
lol its a mobile OS not linux..
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Its virtual machine on top of linux so most of what he is saying could be done but would obviously be cm based or aosp done by our devs
User profiles are available already theres a root app that creates partitions for each profile or user
Printer support i know through bluetoth theres a couple apps for it but nothing native or other than wifi/bluetooth
Im just saying its good to dream and in this guys case both the things he mentioned are do-able
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I wouldn't mind being able to print web pages and graphics from the tf on my wifi printer.
luna_c666 said:
I wouldn't mind being able to print web pages and graphics from the tf on my wifi printer.
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Have a look in the market. There are printing apps from canon for example.
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I've tried the HoneyComb on a variety of Android tablets (transformer, Toshiba thrive, galaxy tab 10.1, acer, and some others), and it seems laggy: scrolling the home screen left and right lags when doing it fast. is ICS better and faster on the original transformer (for those who tried the ports)?
I'm planning on getting an EEE Transformer (not Prime) soon, before they get out of the market. Already it got sold out in 2 local shops who put them on promotion, preparing for the prime. I might find the base 16GB Wifi only for around €350.
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Have a look in the market. There are printing apps from canon for example.
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All android printing apps are printer dependent. Android has no printing layer. I think this is ridiculous. Android has much more potential for being a desktop replacement than iOS (I use it for 90% of the tasks I use my MacBook Pro for) but there is no printing layer.
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For the whiny little snots who don't think the TF101/HC is fast enough or must always have the latest versions, ICS ought to be worth it. Everything else is just evolution like Froyo -> Gingerbread. Worth it but not a game killer as long as stuff works. I prefer ICS to HC the same as I prefer GB to Froyo.
On the Prime I really noticed the speed difference in ICS, but was already 250% satisified with the TF101 speed under HC (which isn't all that different from the Prime on HC IMHO).
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im an update junkie first and foremost but i am eager for ics for other reasons as well. CM9 is awesome. But a stable release allows custom roms to pick out the latest working code. Even a semi stock but optimized rom with custom oc kernel is great.
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but was already 250% satisified with the TF101 speed under HC (which isn't all that different from the Prime on HC IMHO).
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The only thing that you must have notice was the browser speed. It lags terribly on HC during loading of the page, but from what I read it also lags on ICS sometimes, so I don't know if the update will be worth it.
towlie288 said:
Have a look in the market. There are printing apps from canon for example.
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Hmmm..thanks! I never even thought to look in the market, i have a canon pixma mp495, which is listed under compatible printers with the app Canon EPP, so maybe it will work
I'll let you guys know if it is worth it. (replacing more and more functions of my laptop daily this transformer is)
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Wow. Just what i was looking for scan and print! Nice..
Brother Printer App available too
luna_c666 said:
Hmmm..thanks! I never even thought to look in the market, i have a canon pixma mp495, which is listed under compatible printers with the app Canon EPP, so maybe it will work
I'll let you guys know if it is worth it. (replacing more and more functions of my laptop daily this transformer is)
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Wow. Just what i was looking for scan and print! Nice..
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I have a brother wifi printer and there is a nice app for it. It has been updated several times since I first downloaded it. I have it on my tf and my captivate. It has helped me greatly.
For example, yesterday I picked up my daughter after work and went home. She fell asleep about 15 minutes before we got home. And, we were planning on going to dinner because we had a coupon. So, I pulled in the driveway, left the car running, let my cappy connect to my wifi and printed the coupon from my phone. My wife grabbed it and joined us in the car while my daughter continued to sleep peacefully.
I never thought a smart phone could help my daughter get a better nap until yesterday.
Magnesus said:
The only thing that you must have notice was the browser speed. It lags terribly on HC during loading of the page, but from what I read it also lags on ICS sometimes, so I don't know if the update will be worth it.
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Opera Mobile has been my daily browser on each, so I can't say that I noticed much. Page loading in the stock still tends to be slow. What is different on the Prime, is how much faster/smoother the ICS UI is compared to HC on the Prime. I'm almost tempted to hit the force GPU rendering option in Settings -> Developer Options, just to see how wide spread it can be.
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surroundedbytrees said:
I just looked at Platform stats;
Cupcake 0.6%
Donut 1.0%
Eclair 7.6%
Froyo 27.8%
Gingerbread 58.6%
Honeycomb 3.4%
Ice Cream Sandwich 1.0%
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You should see Apple's OS fragmentation, it's MUCH worse than that. Steve Jobs was a liar when we told the world of Android fragmentation.
Fragmentation plagues any device with frequent OS changes..I'm still on Windows XP on one PC, windows Vista on two of them, and Win7 on another PC..also, my wife has gingerbread on her phone, I have honeycomb on my tab, and ICS on my (identical model to my wife's) phone. Eh..any technology that becomes so quickly updated and made obsolete so easily will create such fragmentation..people can't always afford to upgrade just because their device is replaced with a new model, some people just don't like change even when OS updates are available. This is also exacerbated when the old OS will not run on older devices thus updates are not possible for many people who would like to have them. Perhaps ICS will run for a while until Jelly Bean comes out and allow old froyo and GB devices to leave the market and consumers retire them, and more devices will be consolidated on Android 4.x- will certainly make developing cross-platform apps easier to achieve.
Of course, now that I have ICS, I can't wait to see what JB is going to add to my device..
Yes it will. Because of this: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.android.chrome - I want ICS NOW!

will asus ever release an official 4.0.4 or beyond for our TF

Seems like ASUS are pushing out updated builds of 4.0.3, which I'm thinking is their plans to stop development work on the TF101 pretty soon.
Other devices have been running 4.0.4 for some time, and there's probably an imminent 4.0.5 release.
4.0.4 had many fixes over 4.0.3, yet we find ourselves having to use ports, whilst good have inherent issues. But Asus don't seem to be embracing 4.0.4 and that probably means builds beyond that?
Just my two cents.... Glad we have some amazing devs, but without asus drivers we may never have a polished ICS product on our devices.
I think since the 300 and 700 are out/coming soon asus will soon abandon us, but a few more updates should squeeze out.. I hope.
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I think Asus worries more about fixing actual 4.0.3 issues before getting into 4.0.4... ^^
If Asus drivers are working with 4.0.3 there is no reason they won't work with custom 4.0.4 ROM...
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That's my point! GPS is awful for me on ICS, yet solid (10+ locks) on HC.
Google has an 18 month support cycle and a 6 month update cycle which asus has agreed to and since the device was released with honeycomb we should see an official jelybean by oct/nov next year. If not we still have CM support now so we will get it that way instead
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Well, things were going too fast from Froyo to ICS, so most manufacturers are still not ready with ICS, but hopefully we won't have to wait by oct/nov 2013 for JelyBean...
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Sorry meant to put this year we should have it by october/november 2012 which is about the end of asus's mandatory support cycle
With the TF101 getting incorporated into CM and a variety of AOSP options, do we really need official ASUS support? I mean, EOS 2.0 (among others) is rock solid stable (not reboots/SODs)... which is something that even ASUS couldn't offer to everyone so far!
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Asus (and/or Nvidia) support might be needed for some drivers if the current ones are not compatible with future Android/kernels.

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