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Question re: Using both Inspire and iPhone 4

I ordered my Inspire off contract but am planning on keeping both my iPhone 4 and Inspire. I see a lot of people talking about having issues with data plans but was wondering if anyone is still using their iPhone data plan on their Inspire? I'd call at&t and simply get on the unlimited data plan but I know if I switch to that off my current iPhone unlimited plan I will get harrassed by at&t when I pop my sim into the iPhone and will get messages saying I'm not on a iPhone plan, etc... I'm assuming it will work as long as I change the APN settings when I get the phone but then run the risk of missing out on their "4G". If anyone is swapping sims out with another phone and can help me out it would be appreciated. Thanks.

I don't know if the 4G will suffer but I had an iPhone 3GS before I bought a Samsung Captivate (Have an Inspire now). As long as I kept the iPhone data plan, I could switch back and forth with no problems.
Wait, doesn't the iPhone 4 use a small sim card? Do you have an adapter for it?

mikejames07 said:
I don't know if the 4G will suffer but I had an iPhone 3GS before I bought a Samsung Captivate (Have an Inspire now). As long as I kept the iPhone data plan, I could switch back and forth with no problems.
Wait, doesn't the iPhone 4 use a small sim card? Do you have an adapter for it?
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Thanks for the reply, yeah it does use a micro sim but I do have a adapter for it. So you were able to simply put your sim with the iPhone plan into the Inspire and data worked right away with no APN changes? Thanks again.

I have an iPhone 4 and an Captivate. I use an adapter and switch back and forth; no issues.

MarkPharaoh said:
I have an iPhone 4 and an Captivate. I use an adapter and switch back and forth; no issues.
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I had a captivate as well and never had issues switching back and forth. I was just concerned due to a lot of people claiming to have issues with their data and the solution to call at&t to be put on a "4g" plan.

You should have no problems.

Bad Ash said:
Thanks for the reply, yeah it does use a micro sim but I do have a adapter for it. So you were able to simply put your sim with the iPhone plan into the Inspire and data worked right away with no APN changes? Thanks again.
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No not my Inspire, I put it into my Captivate... but had no issues. I was going to try my father's iPhone 4 so I could give you a definite answer but that' when I realized the small sim in the iPhone 4's and I don't have the adapter for it

mikejames07 said:
No not my Inspire, I put it into my Captivate... but had no issues. I was going to try my father's iPhone 4 so I could give you a definite answer but that' when I realized the small sim in the iPhone 4's and I don't have the adapter for it
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Ah, ok. I appreciate you trying though. Guess I will just wait and see what happens in a day or two.

dsjr2006 said:
You should have no problems.
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I hope not but based on all of the other data issues people were having and at&t telling them they need to be on the "4G" data plan, I think I may not be so lucky. If I have to call at&t every time I want to switch phones just to change data plans it's going to be a pain.

No issues with mine since Saturday. I switched to the Inspire on Saturday and then back to the iPhone all day today while rooting. Now back to the Inspire tonight. All is fine. I also had a Captivate too with no issues.

awtryau89 said:
No issues with mine since Saturday. I switched to the Inspire on Saturday and then back to the iPhone all day today while rooting. Now back to the Inspire tonight. All is fine. I also had a Captivate too with no issues.
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And your account still says you have the iPhone data plan? All I needed to hear, thanks.

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And your account still says you have the iPhone data plan? All I needed to hear, thanks.
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Mine still did as well. Worked fine.
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G

id10terrordfw said:
Mine still did as well. Worked fine.
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Thanks for the feedback.

So just to clarify, as I will be doing this too, you just left your data plan as it was, unlimited for iPhone, and popped in the micro SIM (with adapter), and it was fine? Did you have to change the APN on the Inspire if you didn't get the plan changed? And what do you do about Visual Voicemail, checking your VM from the Inspire? Thanks!

Puppy34 said:
So just to clarify, as I will be doing this too, you just left your data plan as it was, unlimited for iPhone, and popped in the micro SIM (with adapter), and it was fine? Did you have to change the APN on the Inspire if you didn't get the plan changed? And what do you do about Visual Voicemail, checking your VM from the Inspire? Thanks!
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I can't answer the question about the APN yet since I don't have my Inspire yet but with visual voicemail I know you will just have regular voicemail in the Inspire and when you go back to the iPhone it will be VVM. At least that's the way it has been with my Samsung Focus and Captivate with the iPhone. But believe me all of this talk about data plans is making my head spin. One person says this another says that... AT&T reps seem clueless as well. I honestly think 3G and 4G plans (in terms of the plans since they both use the same type of sim card) are the same with AT&T just trying to keep things organized on their end. It would be much simpler to have a smartphone data plan and call it a day. A lot less confusion.

Bad Ash said:
I can't answer the question about the APN yet since I don't have my Inspire yet but with visual voicemail I know you will just have regular voicemail in the Inspire and when you go back to the iPhone it will be VVM. At least that's the way it has been with my Samsung Focus and Captivate with the iPhone. But believe me all of this talk about data plans is making my head spin. One person says this another says that... AT&T reps seem clueless as well. I honestly think 3G and 4G plans (in terms of the plans since they both use the same type of sim card) are the same with AT&T just trying to keep things organized on their end. It would be much simpler to have a smartphone data plan and call it a day. A lot less confusion.
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Totally. The only thing I can gather from all the forums is that you don't have to change your plan to a "4G" data plan IF you change the APN...But no one will really say either way.

Puppy34 said:
Totally. The only thing I can gather from all the forums is that you don't have to change your plan to a "4G" data plan IF you change the APN...But no one will really say either way.
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Yup, so many people are getting way too many different answers from AT&T and it's probably just as easy as keeping your iPhone plan and changing the APN. Like I said, 3G or AT&T's "4G" work off the same sim. Think we will be fine just changing the APN.

Just wanted to add, that I'm doing the same thing - using my iPhone4 sim (with adaptor) in the Inspire 4G. I didn't need to change any APN's, I just put the sim in and it worked.
Also, when I check my account page on AT&T, it shows my current phone as the Inspire 4G, but I'm still listed with the iPhone Data Plan (unlimited).
So far all is fine and I'm getting normal 3G speeds, same as iPhone.
I'm just wondering when ATT flips the switch on 4G on March 1, if my sim & plan will continue to work ok and give me those faster 4G speeds... So much confusion and misinformation going on out there, I'm just going to wait and see.

aimfire72 said:
Just wanted to add, that I'm doing the same thing - using my iPhone4 sim (with adaptor) in the Inspire 4G. I didn't need to change any APN's, I just put the sim in and it worked.
Also, when I check my account page on AT&T, it shows my current phone as the Inspire 4G, but I'm still listed with the iPhone Data Plan (unlimited).
So far all is fine and I'm getting normal 3G speeds, same as iPhone.
I'm just wondering when ATT flips the switch on 4G on March 1, if my sim & plan will continue to work ok and give me those faster 4G speeds... So much confusion and misinformation going on out there, I'm just going to wait and see.
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I'm glad I'm not alone. Have you tried putting the sim back into the iPhone to see if that shows up on your account again? I'm really leaning towards saying it will work fine. I really believe AT&T is feeding everyone a lot of BS. I remember they would tell everyone a iPhone data plan would not work on any other smartphone. Of course we all know that's not the case.
(And I'm not sure if this "4G" data plan would work in the iPhone or not but that's a possibility to switch to unlimited 4G and just use that in the iPhone. Can anyone confirm this?)

I haven't put the sim back in the iPhone yet, but in the past, I've used that same sim in a Galaxy Tab, Galaxy S, Nexus 1 and S phones - and they've all worked fine with my "iPhone data plan". Nothing changed in my account, so I think we're ok...

Loses data

Hello.. anyone else having data problems with the SR. When I'm at home' I have it on my wifi. But when I leave the house It doesn't have no data? The 4G icon is there and 3 bars..but nothing...It takes around 15min till it gets data again..some times I have to reboot it.. and still have to wait.. I have my old sim card from my LG thrill? Do I need a special sim card? I really like this phone.. I don't wanna take it back... thanks....
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Did you get the phone from at&t or did you buy it somewhere else? If not from at&t they need to enable lte and hspa.
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I bought it at att at full price.. she didn't change my sim card? Same plan and everything ...
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Mine did the same thing call att tell then you have lte phone . Make sure there aware they had to change stuff on my plan for my data to work and i had same sim so i went too att today they gave me an lte sim card my data worked after i called then but u still need the lte sim

silver03wrx said:
Mine did the same thing call att tell then you have lte phone . Make sure there aware they had to change stuff on my plan for my data to work and i had same sim so i went too att today they gave me an lte sim card my data worked after i called then but u still need the lte sim
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hello fellow wrx owner
I had the same issue. If you don't have the new sim, and they have not activated LTE on your data plan, you will have data issues.
a quick trip to an att store had me all fixed up. I have not had any issues since

Yup yup. Not much longer though i broke my wrx badly lol.. front diff rear diff and trans. To many mods with stock powertrain. Vf30 turbo pinks injectors perrin 3inch silicone inlet. Catless up pipe catless down pipe 3inch and the rest of the exhaust 3inch and catless. Injen intake. Walbro 255lph fuel pump samco intercooler piping. Go fast bits manual boost controoler. Crush cap map done to recirc valve. Throttlebody coolant bypass mod. Lol and too much of a heavy foot equals drivetrain destroyd.

LTE data not working

I got a new skyrocket off of craigslist (no contract) and I put my sim card from my inspire 4g in the phone. It does not work. On the sim it says 3g, if that means anything in terms of a sim.
Why does it not work in my ATT Skyrocket phone?

You need a 4g/LTE sim card... Call AT&T and make sure your plan is updated.. They have to do something on their end for your AT&T SR to receive LTE.

I dont want to update my plan. Your not very helpful.

you need a lte sim card and the plan on your account to get lte data and speeds. there's no way around it.

lart2150 said:
you need a lte sim card and the plan on your account to get lte data and speeds. there's no way around it.
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Wrong.
Just call AT&T, and ask for LTE unlimited (if you have unlimited data right now), and they'll provision your account correctly.

Register the phones imei with ATT. Call 611 and update it.
Google is your friend.
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I am pretty sure that you can get around having a new plan. Should I just get a new sim card and then I will be good?

mattrb said:
I am pretty sure that you can get around having a new plan. Should I just get a new sim card and then I will be good?
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No... it's an AT&T smartphone, give it a few hours, and they'll automatically slap on a tiered plan if your trying to do the medianet thing.

I have a 3g smartphone plan.

i work for AT&T you totally need a new SIM card (9th and 10th digits needs to be 25) and the LTE data plan, if you have unlimited you can keep it.
but you WILL need to change these for it to work properly.

mattrb said:
I have a 3g smartphone plan.
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Is it unlimited? If they switch you to a 4G LTE plan, it'll be completely fine, you can still swap to the Inspire and get data, just it will work with LTE.

mattrb said:
I dont want to update my plan. Your not very helpful.
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Really? Nice attitude after you ask for help... told you strait up what you need. If you can get AT&T LTE without lte sim, pls let all of us know.

Sorry if I upset you. I am just like everyone else. I want to avoid throttle.

Um, you can and will be throttled on you're current phone and plan if you use to much data,its not just for LTE phones its for all unlimited users

I had to get a new sim. Still kept my plan the same.
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orlandoxpolice said:
I had to get a new sim. Still kept my plan the same.
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Thank you for your great response.
Do I need an old phone to get a new sim card thereby preventing them knowing about my skyrocket when I activate the new sim?

Keep us posted. User experience/posts reflect the new sim alone results in continued connectivity inconsistency on lte phones. Eventually you may have to have them change your plan to an LTE plan. This change does not affect you plan pricing btw...think of it as a plan, with little check marks below it that enable features and they need to enable lte for consistent connectivity
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I went to att to get a new sim card, they activated it and the code on the side of the sim ends in #29 not #25 as a previous poster mentioned as being a lte sim card. They said it was a lte card but I am not sure.
I put the sim in the skyrocket and I get no lte.
Did they lie and say the card was lte but it really wasn't. What do I do?

mattrb said:
I went to att to get a new sim card, they activated it and the code on the side of the sim ends in #29 not #25 as a previous poster mentioned as being a lte sim card. They said it was a lte card but I am not sure.
I put the sim in the skyrocket and I get no lte.
Did they lie and say the card was lte but it really wasn't. What do I do?
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Are you in a LTE area?
Just cause u got a LTE sim doesn't guarantee u LTE service in a non LTE area
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The rep told me that a non lte sim will not even get reception in the skyrocket. I asked because I had the captivate and attempted to insert that sim in the skyrocket. I am not in an lte area yet my 4g icon is always on.
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Not getting data

Picked up a Skyrocket to use as a backup to my iPhone 4s. Got it today, and put my micro sim in the Skyrocket, phone worked fine, data did not.
After fiddling around with the APN settings for hours with no luck, I finally went to at&t and had them switch me to the unlimited lte plan, and then the data on the Skyrocket worked just fine.
When I got back home, I popped the sim back in my 4S and....no data. After a few minutes of fiddling with it (restarting the phone, resetting network settings) it started working. So now I thought I was good and put the sim back in the Skyrocket, and the data had stopped working there.
Now I can't get data on either phone, lol, and I'm getting kind of worried that I may not be able to get my unlimited iPhone data plan back, even though I asked them before I switched to the unlimited lte plan and they said I could.
Anyone have any experience with using these two phones together with the same sim card? Anything else I could try that I missed?
Thanks

jeffiphone said:
Picked up a Skyrocket to use as a backup to my iPhone 4s. Got it today, and put my micro sim in the Skyrocket, phone worked fine, data did not.
After fiddling around with the APN settings for hours with no luck, I finally went to at&t and had them switch me to the unlimited lte plan, and then the data on the Skyrocket worked just fine.
When I got back home, I popped the sim back in my 4S and....no data. After a few minutes of fiddling with it (restarting the phone, resetting network settings) it started working. So now I thought I was good and put the sim back in the Skyrocket, and the data had stopped working there.
Now I can't get data on either phone, lol, and I'm getting kind of worried that I may not be able to get my unlimited iPhone data plan back, even though I asked them before I switched to the unlimited lte plan and they said I could.
Anyone have any experience with using these two phones together with the same sim card? Anything else I could try that I missed?
Thanks
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Easy fix. Stop swapping sim cards.
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U can get it back. As long as you're on unlim ur fine. Call att and see what the problem is
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Most likely, its the data service issue going from iphone to skyrocket or vice versa. IOS and Android is set up as 2 different types of data plan from ATT. U can't swap sim cards between IOS and Android. Sim cards can be swap between iPhone to iPhone and Android to Android but not Android to iphone, Especially now with LTE service. That's why when u switch from iphone to skyrocket, ATT has to make changes to your data plan regardless of you getting keeping unlimited or not.
As for 3g Android to IOS or IOS to 3g Android phone, it may work.
I hope I made it clear enough.
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No. The problem here is you need to be on LTE DATA PLAN to use the skyrocket. You could switch between LTE phones with no problem but I'm guessing to go back to regular 3G LTE data plan won't work. Call at&t
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I swapped phones just now from the 4s to Skyrocket with no issues, in fact I'm now getting LTE, woohoo
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I swapped phones just now from the 4s to Skyrocket with no issues, in fact I'm now getting LTE, woohoo
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Which data plan do you have?

I had the unlimited iphone data plan and was switched up to the unlimited lte plan.
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Glock,
Have you tried the LTE SIM back in the non-LTE phone using the LTE plan.
See, I want the Skyrocket for my husband, but want to use my upgrade then switch the SIM with my number back into my Atrix. So the LTE plan and SIM would be my number, but my Atrix is not LTE. I know I will have to change my husbands plan after the switch so that his skyrocket will have data, but only if my Atrix will work on the LTE data.
Anyone know?

I put the lte sim into my 4s and everything works fine, I had the sim cut with one of those micro cutters.
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Actually figured out my problem, lol. It looks like AT&T is having data coverage issues in my home area. Once I go a few miles away from home I can get data on both the Skyrocket and iPhone using my micro sim.

The last I knew, AT&T uses two different data networks. One for iDevices and one for everything else. My girlfriend and I had to sign up for separate data plans because she went with the iPhone. And, the is no unlimited LTE data plan to switch to where I am.

[Q] Straight Talk T Mobile LTE

I have Straight Talk with a T Mobile SIM in my Nexus 5 and I am getting awesome LTE coverage, although my friend has the exact same setup and is only getting H data and not LTE. We are both using the same APN settings, and the only difference that I can think of is that I bought my SIM card more recently. I didn't think that the T Mobile SIMs on Straight Talk supported LTE, but I am definitely getting it and was wondering if anyone else is experiencing the same. If you are getting LTE, what are your APN settings?

jab0321 said:
I have Straight Talk with a T Mobile SIM in my Nexus 5 and I am getting awesome LTE coverage, although my friend has the exact same setup and is only getting H data and not LTE. We are both using the same APN settings, and the only difference that I can think of is that I bought my SIM card more recently. I didn't think that the T Mobile SIMs on Straight Talk supported LTE, but I am definitely getting it and was wondering if anyone else is experiencing the same. If you are getting LTE, what are your APN settings?
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I thought ATT was the only one you could get LTE through on Straight talk, Tmobile is the 4G speeds but HSPA+.

ketjr81 said:
I thought ATT was the only one you could get LTE through on Straight talk, Tmobile is the 4G speeds but HSPA+.
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That's what I thought, but I am definitely on Straight Talk with a T Mobile sim and am getting LTE data. Not just in my area either, since I recently took a trip and had LTE coverage in many major cities.

I can confirm that the new ST T-Mobile SIM cards support LTE. Received my new SIM one week ago and have been enjoying LTE speeds for the past week. Interestingly, the color of the SIM card was hot pink as opposed to the light pink T-Mobile SIM I used to have.

m0nk89 said:
I can confirm that the new ST T-Mobile SIM cards support LTE. Received my new SIM one week ago and have been enjoying LTE speeds for the past week. Interestingly, the color of the SIM card was hot pink as opposed to the light pink T-Mobile SIM I used to have.
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Right on, will have to tell my friend to order a new Sim then!

m0nk89 said:
I can confirm that the new ST T-Mobile SIM cards support LTE. Received my new SIM one week ago and have been enjoying LTE speeds for the past week. Interestingly, the color of the SIM card was hot pink as opposed to the light pink T-Mobile SIM I used to have.
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Thanks for this. I tried to contact useless Straight Talk support regarding this question. They didn't seem to understand it, sent me the at&t APN settings, when I called them on it, they sent me the non-smartphone APN settings. They said that yes, t-mobile does support LTE, not just H+ (but I didn't actually trust them to understand the question), however said nothing about needing a new sim card. I have the light pink sim right now.
However I'm still not entirely convinced. Here's a picture on ebay of what I assume is the new hot pink sim:
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Straight-Talk-Micro-SIM-Card-T-Mobile-Network-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/b7gAAOxy3zNSlQHw/$_57.JPG
You can see clearly on the card that it admits "4g" is HSPA+, not LTE. I'm also suspicious because T-Mobile has a different APN setting for LTE, while Straight Talk does not. Has anyone checked the "Mobile Network Type" in settings to verify that you really truly are getting LTE? Could the hot pink be because it's in micro sim size? The at&t cards have a similar color scheme (light blue for full sized sim, dark blue for micro), and I think offering the Micro Sim size for t-mobile is new, but the internals of the sim may not be.
Can someone post a speedtest speeds result of their "LTE" speeds? My H+ speeds are very fast, so I don't know if there'll be much difference..

T-Mobile sucks where I'm from. New England so I got the at&t Sim
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T-Mobile sucks where I'm from. New England so I got the at&t Sim
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Wow, incredibly helpful comment.

Going to order a T-Mobile sim and see if I can get LTE. Hoping i can use straight talk with LTE vs the $60 T-Mobile plan. Tried the $30 T-Mobile plan but need more than 100 minutes and VoIP isn't cutting it
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edd247 said:
Going to order a T-Mobile sim and see if I can get LTE. Hoping i can use straight talk with LTE vs the $60 T-Mobile plan. Tried the $30 T-Mobile plan but need more than 100 minutes and VoIP isn't cutting it
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Please update us. From what I can understand it seems like they're only advertising "4g" as the H+ speeds.

XDAcat62 said:
Please update us. From what I can understand it seems like they're only advertising "4g" as the H+ speeds.
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Just got the T-Mobile sim yesterday and can confirm that LTE is working on straight talk. I'm getting great speeds too
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edd247 said:
Just got the T-Mobile sim yesterday and can confirm that LTE is working on straight talk. I'm getting great speeds too
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This is great to see. I actually email support and their replies were so generic that it didn't answer my question.
So best place to get SIM card to insure i get LTE for tmobile?
thank you,
-D

bucd said:
This is great to see. I actually email support and their replies were so generic that it didn't answer my question.
So best place to get SIM card to insure i get LTE for tmobile?
thank you,
-D
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I ordered mine directly from the straight talk website but I think you can order one from Walmart

Just curious if anyone here has been cutoff by straight talk. I read the small print, and you are only unlimited on their web space. So technically they can cut you off if you use too much data.
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Its unlimited 2.5gb LTE. Then they throttle you down.. Maybe if you blew threw all your 2.5gb in five minutes by downloading a torrented movie they'd shut you off. All your data in less then a day.
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edd247 said:
I ordered mine directly from the straight talk website but I think you can order one from Walmart
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Ok cool. So as long as i order it from straight talk, i should get the LTE card? I need to order two and wanted to make sure before i do it.
Currently have the older card and i'm not getting LTE on TMobile. After reading through this thead, sounds like the newer cards will do it.
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-D

bucd said:
Ok cool. So as long as i order it from straight talk, i should get the LTE card? I need to order two and wanted to make sure before i do it.
Currently have the older card and i'm not getting LTE on TMobile. After reading through this thead, sounds like the newer cards will do it.
thank you,
-D
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Yeah if you order it from them you should get the newest sim cards.

edd247 said:
Just got the T-Mobile sim yesterday and can confirm that LTE is working on straight talk. I'm getting great speeds too
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Download/install LTE settings app. Run your test and look at the app. You can see this in your settings about phone status as well. What does it say you're connecting at?
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Zandeer said:
Just curious if anyone here has been cutoff by straight talk. I read the small print, and you are only unlimited on their web space. So technically they can cut you off if you use too much data.
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In my personal experience, I can confirm you get throttled/data cut off on ST-AT&T sims.. It happen to me, but has never happen to me on a ST-Tmobile sim.
BUT YMMV...

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Download/install LTE settings app. Run your test and look at the app. You can see this in your settings about phone status as well. What does it say you're connecting at?
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Here is what I get

edd247 said:
Here is what I get
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Looks promising, you must be in a test area.