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[Topic] Beware future crackdowns

http://www.phonedog.com/2011/05/13/does-custom-rom-support-affect-the-buying-process/
....just to keep a eye out
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This has been known for a while .
I don't see this being a problem for very long especially on htc, considering that phones like the holiday will more then likely have international "brothers/sisters", that means there will be dev support worldwide working to break open a phones boot loader. I would assume the only reason it hasn't been done to the atrix, is because honestly the phone is a flop. Blur put a bad taste in everyones mouth and not alot of people want to mess with moto.
If you hit up other htc phone boards here on xda there are literally hundreds of developers working on htc phones. I have said it before where there is a will there is a way.

Atrix is no flop
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Locked bootloaders do much harm to the phones' sales. I like the sense rom but the default stock one comes with a lot of bloat and poor battery performance. I flashed the dilligaf's V2 rom and my phone now flies. When the manufacturers cannot unleash the full potential of the phone, why the hell do they have to lock their bootloaders for?

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Atrix is no flop
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That's not what the saturated dev section for the atrix tells me.
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Atrix is no flop
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I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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Lol
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danielsaenz said:
I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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HAHAHA! That's funny sh*t.
Anyways... If the manufacturers and Phone companies would actually leave the phones open, we wouldn't have this issue.
It wouldn't be too hard for them to do...build a recovery image right into the phone. If something screws up, they is a keypress sequence that would force install factory firmware. Bam...No more brick, and start over. I know I have reference the PSP in several other posts, but they did it right. Maybe the phone manufacturers should take a hint.
There is a PSP dev that goes by Dark_Alex... He created the "Despertar del Cementerio." This translates to "Wake the Dead." This was a service battery and memory stick combo that would literally UNBRICK your PSP. I actually have one, and have purposely killed the power during a firmware update to test it. And it works! Anyways, the point is...this is VERY possible with these phones, no one has done it yet tho.

danielsaenz said:
I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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Haha, I LOLed at work when I read this.
ATT seems to have something to do with this. If I hadn't been able to root my inspire I'd probably have returned it. Too much bloat. Bloated on a phone like that males it even worse (also I never liked MOTO)
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Well if its not rootable and cannot access recovery,then I don't bother. I was walking thru fryys when I saw the inspire and knew I had to get it. Trading my sgs vibrant+$150 for a new inspire sounded great to me. But I didn't think if the bootloader was unlocked or not. Luckily,it was. I got Lucky on this one
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MIUI MI-One phone

When will this be available in the US?
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http://hotmid.com/xiaomi-phone-mion...l-core-4-inch-capacitive-tocuh-pre-order.html
Edit: Oh, i missed the real question, lol. The answer is; I don't know. Order it online as soon as it pops up and don't count on finding it in a store.
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I heard that Xiaomi will be the only one's selling it, no third party sellers.
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The phones spec's are nice, and if they would release MIUI natively without requiring a modding community that phone would probably sell like hot cakes. WTB that phone.

Yahh me2! But it's now going to come with Vanilla android 2.3.5 instead of MIUI stock.
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At the moment They would have to make a major change in their policies before the phone could be released in the US. The GPL will need to be upheld and until that happens if you want one you will have to order one from China

Yahh since MIUI is closed source code, that would be awesome if they released it!
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Yahh since MIUI is closed source code, that would be awesome if they released it!
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It would be very cool, but until they do they can't sell it in the US. I hope they do release it.

But could they sell it to the US people? And not have a base company in the US?
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We can always import from China, there will be lots of sellers on eBay in the coming months I think.

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We can always import from China, there will be lots of sellers on eBay in the coming months I think.
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But could we but directly from Xiaomi?
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my Dad is going back to China, might get him to bring me back a Xiaomi.

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my Dad is going back to China, might get him to bring me back a Xiaomi.
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Lucky. ...
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b-eock said:
Yahh me2! But it's now going to come with Vanilla android 2.3.5 instead of MIUI stock.
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no... where did you get this info?
it comes with MIUI and is dual-bootable into any other gingerbread rom people port to it. probably will be VGB, CM7, etc... Xiaomi is also trying to get rights and permissions to put WP7 on it but thats unlikely.
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sageDieu said:
no... where did you get this info?
it comes with MIUI and is dual-bootable into any other gingerbread rom people port to it. probably will be VGB, CM7, etc... Xiaomi is also trying to get rights and permissions to put WP7 on it but thats unlikely.
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I got that information from a large tech review website. It was supposed to ship with MIUI on it, but they decided to ship With Vanilla Android 2.3.5 for those that want it, but no choice to begin with.
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Hi everybody !
Does anybody have so,e fresh info about this phone ?
I am VERY interested in it, because SGSII or Galaxy Nexus are far too expensive for me, and I LOVE Miui rom, so I guess that phone woud be great for me ;-)

Etienne38 said:
Hi everybody !
Does anybody have so,e fresh info about this phone ?
I am VERY interested in it, because SGSII or Galaxy Nexus are far too expensive for me, and I LOVE Miui rom, so I guess that phone woud be great for me ;-)
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I just got one this week via China. Its really hard to get. They've just sold 500,000 in 24 hours and run out of stock. I doubt they will be coming to the rest of the world any time soon until they have satisfied Chinese domestic demand
Comes with stock MIUI - did an OTA update a couple of days ago. Build quality and spec is amazing for what I paid for it.
Xiaomi are offering owners the chance to beta test Android 4.0.3 (non MIUI). Not many manufacturers would take this approach

I have given up on this phone, and I am waiting on the SGS III

just have a look

bluebird236 said:
I just got one this week via China. Its really hard to get. They've just sold 500,000 in 24 hours and run out of stock. I doubt they will be coming to the rest of the world any time soon until they have satisfied Chinese domestic demand
Comes with stock MIUI - did an OTA update a couple of days ago. Build quality and spec is amazing for what I paid for it.
Xiaomi are offering owners the chance to beta test Android 4.0.3 (non MIUI). Not many manufacturers would take this approach
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Hey bluebird..
Im also really interested in buying this phone.. do u mind giving me some more info?
How much did u pay and what site did u get it off? guessing the xiaomi.com site?
Thanks a lot.

tips on future phone purchases

Don't buy them if they are not all over TV, galaxy s was everywhere the s2.on the other hand, well, its not so popular
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I dont really care if it's not that popular.. its a bad ass phone.. I don't think theres any other phone I'd rather have

ummm.... what?
are you saying that there is no ads on the SGS II? Have you seen the tv ad making fun of the iphone?

iwasblown said:
Don't buy them if they are not all over TV, galaxy s was everywhere the s2.on the other hand, well, its not so popular
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Ummm you know its been on back order from tmobile customer loyalty since early December right? That usually means its kinda popular.

Samsung has been outselling apple... I doh?
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You must not watch TV. All three versions are all over the TV. Maybe you live under a rock!
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This is terrible advice. Don't buy something that isn't popular? Really? If I had gone by that rule I'd never have bought my HD2 or my Evo View & I'd have missed out on two excellent devices. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's the best.
Here's some advice that everyone can follow- do your research, go to the store & play with different devices, and buy whichever one you like best.

iwasblown said:
Don't buy them if they are not all over TV, galaxy s was everywhere the s2.on the other hand, well, its not so popular
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excuse us for not following popular trend and buying into apple's half assed over priced crap
we arent as "creative" as you applers because not all of us use the exact same phone
thanks.

A while ago Engadget had an article on the best smartphones for the four major carriers and used this for the cover. It's definitely popular..
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Hd2 was one of the most popular phone at T-Mobile and it SUCKED for the AVERAGE CONSUMERS.
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iwasblown said:
Don't buy them if they are not all over TV, galaxy s was everywhere the s2.on the other hand, well, its not so popular
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Well, I don't think thats a good advice, my advice is before buying a phone like the galaxy s2, look for issues about it in the internet and try it out before you buy it.
I regret saying that Engadget's article about the screen issue wasn't that noticeable and they had it on a really dark place etc. Now i'm noticing that every darn day.

myunitisz said:
Hd2 was one of the most popular phone at T-Mobile and it SUCKED for the AVERAGE CONSUMERS.
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Cause the average consumer is dumber than dog ****.

Windows mobile is a slow and laggy phones. Phones should be released so they don't need to be hacked. It should be because the owner wants to. That's my opinion on it
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You know this is one of the most selling phones in the world right.... Right? Samsung has put millions in marketing and made a version for every major American carrier and is attempting to sell more than the original.... You are aware of that right? So you started this thread to be flamed.... Correct?
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This guy hasn't responded to a single post in his own thread. Obviously just trying to light a fire in the forum. CLOSE!

This has to be the best phone I've ever owned. I just upgraded from the sensation and it doesn't compare this phone is a monster. Don't need to root either after the update
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I got gotten damn it lol
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If you have not purchased one yet. I would suggest the GNEX. It has exceeded my expectations and ICS OS is pretty nice.

I would agree Nexii are amazing devices. But when I choose a device I take a look here on XDA, see what the development community is like and then i will get it

Jelly bean android 4.1 cyanagen mod for tbolt.....

Okay android. 4.1 will be released at Google io this week so how long until cyanagen gets it for our phone. At this point skip ics as its yesterday old crappie crap on a stick. We should have it like how apple releases ios they do updates so quick why can't you we. This is stupid and full year after ics we don't have it.....
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Be happy we're getting ICS. This is a year and a half old phone.
The only reason apple updates for so long is because it has literally like 6 devices to update. HTC has like 30+, all with diffrerent RIL, screen sizes, ram, processors, and carriers.
The CyanoogenMod developers don't work for you, don't expect anything from them.

I'm cool with just getting ICS
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trter10 said:
Be happy we're getting ICS. This is a year and a half old phone.
The only reason apple updates for so long is because it has literally like 6 devices to update. HTC has like 30+, all with diffrerent RIL, screen sizes, ram, processors, and carriers.
The CyanoogenMod developers don't work for you, don't expect anything from them.
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Never I want 4.1 android
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Never I want 4.1 android
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Then build it for us or buy a new phone, but dont demand anythinh
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Then build it for us or buy a new phone, but dont demand anythinh
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I am an American, I can demand anything....
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Android 4.1 is a stupid simple update from ICS. It isn't all that different and a lot of stuff will carry over. The developer's well get 4.1 running as soon as they can, if they can. The reason we don't have ICS is because we don't have a RIL yet. That should come with the first ICS leak.
If Apple's release schedule is superior then I think it's time for you to go buy an iPhone.The dev's are already pretty stressed out about this, and they do all their work for free. You honestly don't have the right to demand anything.
If you want the latest updates immediately after they come out, you should have bought a Nexus device.
Also, Cyanogenmod isn't the only AOSP build out there, and there are many better ones. I'd research into most of them, since the active CM developers for the Tbolt are working with 7, not 9(which is ICS based) it could be a while.
I also hope that your american comment was not serious, but it doesn't matter. The damage is done. Attitudes like that are the reason that a lot of other nations look down on the US and consider the citizen's ignorant and stupid.

Cant wait for 4.1 for my SGS2
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Android 4.1 is a stupid simple update from ICS. It isn't all that different and a lot of stuff will carry over. The developer's well get 4.1 running as soon as they can, if they can. The reason we don't have ICS is because we don't have a RIL yet. That should come with the first ICS leak.
If Apple's release schedule is superior then I think it's time for you to go buy an iPhone.The dev's are already pretty stressed out about this, and they do all their work for free. You honestly don't have the right to demand anything.
If you want the latest updates immediately after they come out, you should have bought a Nexus device.
Also, Cyanogenmod isn't the only AOSP build out there, and there are many better ones. I'd research into most of them, since the active CM developers for the Tbolt are working with 7, not 9(which is ICS based) it could be a while.
I also hope that your american comment was not serious, but it doesn't matter. The damage is done. Attitudes like that are the reason that a lot of other nations look down on the US and consider the citizen's ignorant and stupid.
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what i am saying is that it is stupid how long it takes from the time google/moto releases the code to it gets to us on our phones. Even the sprint nexus s took over 6 months to get out.... why cant it be quick like apple is all i am saying since they too have many devices to support fromt he 3gs, 4, 4s and soon the 5.
and when the world has a problem who do they call? THE USA! True Power is not given... It is TAKEN.... J.R. Ewing

The thunderbolt is an older device now, it has a single core CPU and there are now phones that are quadcore with better screens and hardware. If you don't like the selection of roms our developers have made available to us, like you said, you're an American, you have the free choice to get another phone or learn to port jellybean to the bolt yourself.
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I am an American, I can demand anything....
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Easily the dumbest comment in a long time.
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quickdraw86 said:
The thunderbolt is an older device now, it has a single core CPU and there are now phones that are quadcore with better screens and hardware. If you don't like the selection of roms our developers have made available to us, like you said, you're an American, you have the free choice to get another phone or learn to port jellybean to the bolt yourself.
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Because I feel jellybean is easily installed as it is only a dot release so we are intitled to it.
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We wont see an official release of that and the only way we will is through development. Im honestly surprised that the phone manufacturers are even updating the thunderbolt and some of the others to ics. People aren't going to go out and buy a thunderbolt because it has ics. Theyre going to buy the new badass phone with a gazillion freaking cores in it that all dont even operate most of the time.
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We wont see an official release of that and the only way we will is through development. Im honestly surprised that the phone manufacturers are even updating the thunderbolt and some of the others to ics. People aren't going to go out and buy a thunderbolt because it has ics. Theyre going to buy the new badass phone with a gazillion freaking cores in it that all dont even operate most of the time.
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I spent $50 and want jellybean as now ice cream sandwich is so last year....
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Because I feel jellybean is easily installed as it is only a dot release so we are intitled to it.
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You are entitled to nothing more than the way the phone was when you bought it.
You are not American, your the problem WITH America
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so let me make sure I understand this right. ICS is only on about 7% of the devices on the planet but you are crying and *****ing about a version of android that isnt even out yet not on a year and a half old device. i refuse to acknowledge all the other ignorant stuff you said because this was enough.
do the board a favor and next time you want to say something.... dont.
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I spent $50 and want jellybean as now ice cream sandwich is so last year....
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yeah, Happy Trolling idiot.
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You are entitled to nothing more than the way the phone was when you bought it.
You are not American, your the problem WITH America
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^^^ THIS ^^^

Google_Nexus is obviously trolling, only saying these things to piss people off for the "fun" of it. Replying only provokes it and is what he wants. This thread should be closed.
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Google_Nexus is obviously trolling, only saying these things to piss people off for the "fun" of it. Replying only provokes it and is what he wants. This thread should be closed.
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I do own a tbolt and feel as I posted. We are due jelly beam and key lime pie also. I am a demanding owner.
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Who's doing Jelly Bean First?

I'm sure it will come along shortly enough, curious as to who will take the lead on this one.

Me too...... I was wondering the same cuz the devs at A500 are already at work it seems
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Pure speculation but probably owain or hell will ..... Pre ordered my nexus 7 yesterday can't wait for some jelly bean
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Pure speculation but probably owain or hell will ..... Pre ordered my nexus 7 yesterday can't wait for some jelly bean
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Same here..... Lucky devs at Google IO getting it for free
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Same here..... Lucky devs at Google IO getting it for free
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They spent 900 bucks plus airfare to get to IO I don't think anyone will touch Jelly Bean until source is released in mid July. SDK ports are buggy as all get out and nothing more than proof of concept. We still won't have a fully functional ROM until LG releases ICS source. On the bright side, drivers should be able to be ported from ICS to JB, until GB to ICS.

i see Paul at modaco.com already has JB rom w/kitchen for the galaxy nexus the G2x versions will be uber gimped due to lg's inability to release the source to the dev community. reason why i sold my g2x for a gnex and haven't looked back.

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i see Paul at modaco.com already has JB rom w/kitchen for the galaxy nexus the G2x versions will be uber gimped due to lg's inability to release the source to the dev community. reason why i sold my g2x for a gnex and haven't looked back.
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I want to get an s2 but I have a problem spending around $400 for a used phone with the possibility of the IMEI being potentially locked due to the seller NOT paying the hardware payments for the device to Tmobile.

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I want to get an s2 but I have a problem spending around $400 for a used phone with the possibility of the IMEI being potentially locked due to the seller NOT paying the hardware payments for the device to Tmobile.
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Galaxy Nexus is brand new from Google for $350 now. Plus, it'll be getting Jellybean officially in 2 weeks.

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Galaxy Nexus is brand new from Google for $350 now. Plus, you'll be getting Jellybean officially in 2 weeks.
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Holy ****, and that's with no contract attached? I opened the link but I didn't read all the way through it.
Someone needs to tell the idiots on craigs list to stop asking more than 350 for their used, potentially screwed over Nexus'.

stevew84 said:
Holy ****, and that's with no contract attached? I opened the link but I didn't read all the way through it.
Someone needs to tell the idiots on craigs list to stop asking more than 350 for their used, potentially screwed over Nexus'.
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Yep, no contract. It's an amazing phone, it's totally worth it.
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Yep, no contract. It's an amazing phone, it's totally worth it.
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I thought the Galaxy Nexus was sold on Tmobile's site, I guess not. Either way, will definitely look into this as my next phone.

I should have waited before buying my GNEX....*facepalm*
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Won't the Nexus 7 suck for updates because it runs Tegra 3 by Nvidia?
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Won't the Nexus 7 suck for updates because it runs Tegra 3 by Nvidia?
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nope! its a nexus brand so it will get updates first since google is handling the code/updates directly. i assume google has the source for the kernel and of course resources/connections with nvidia. whereas lg just wants to sell more phones than update older ones (prev g2x owner).
thats why i love the pure google nexus phones

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nope! its a nexus brand so it will get updates first since google is handling the code/updates directly. i assume google has the source for the kernel and of course resources/connections with nvidia. whereas lg just wants to sell more phones than update older ones (prev g2x owner).
thats why i love the pure google nexus phones
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That's what sold me.... Can't go wrong with a nexus device.... Seriously thinking about the gnex too
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Pre ordered mine yesterday now just trying to find someone to buy my G2x for $200 so I can order a Galaxy Nexus and be done with driver issues....hopefully lol
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seamonkey420 said:
nope! its a nexus brand so it will get updates first since google is handling the code/updates directly. i assume google has the source for the kernel and of course resources/connections with nvidia. whereas lg just wants to sell more phones than update older ones (prev g2x owner).
thats why i love the pure google nexus phones
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I hope Google does update it. The Nexus 7 looks nice and I'm gonna try for one at Christmas
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Haven't the previous Google direct Galaxy phones been outdated rather quickly? Maybe not outdated, but left behind in terms of OTA's and things like that?
I mean, people will argue the galaxy s2 is a better phone than Nexus...and now the s3 just came out! For one (only one?) of the only devices to come pre-packaged with ICS, it seems to lack certain functionality and features that carrier specific phones have.
Comparison
http://geekaphone.com/compare/Samsung-GALAXY-Nexus-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II
Someone give me an idea as to why the Music features are so bad on the Nexus?

vipaman said:
I should have waited before buying my GNEX....*facepalm*
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If you bought it recently, Google is doing $50 refunds.
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There is a dude I work with who has the Galaxy Nexus and loves it, in person the thing is beautiful...probably one of the nicest phones I've seen, well, besides the white Galaxy s2. I have a thing for phones that are all white, super clean looking, and I hate putting cases on my phones.
I baby my g2x, I have one of the LG branded ones that isn't directly related to a carrier. At my desk, that thing never sits on the direct surface, only on a stack of post-its, haha.