Just a thought.... - HTC Sensation

Ok guys here it goes.....
First of all i would like to say that i love my sensation (unlike many unsatisfied members of this forum)! Certainly the best phone i've had! But sometimes i wonder if HTC gave us a Ferrari with no gas! I hear from a lot of people that sense sucks, its bloated, bluh,bluh bluh and that it's the reason that the sensation isn't performing as it should! I was starting to believe that because i tried every single custom sense rom available and although performance increased significantly, it didn't act like a dual core phone with a powerful gpu! So yesterday i installed some performance scripts (on top of a custom rom and kernel ) that made my phone run a lot faster and smoother. I was very satisfied until i went to help a friend of mine with his brand new desire s! His phone is just updated to sense 3.0 (android 2.3.5) and it was a lot faster (on stock) than my dual core Sensation with custom sense 3.5 rom and sensation xe ( 1.5 ghz) kernel! You can imagine how much faster it is than stock sensation! And i ask my self: How can an inferior hardware ( by the same manufacturer !!!! ) can run the same software ( sense 3.0 ) so much faster and smoother!? I believe the problem is not Sense but the hardware Drivers! If we could find a way to change the drivers ( lets say from T Mobile SGS2 that has the same processor ) maybe the Sensation can really be Sensational ! Just my 2 cents! Cheers!

leftheodo said:
Ok guys here it goes.....
First of all i would like to say that i love my sensation (unlike many unsatisfied members of this forum)! Certainly the best phone i've had! But sometimes i wonder if HTC gave us a Ferrari with no gas! I hear from a lot of people that sense sucks, its bloated, bluh,bluh bluh and that it's the reason that the sensation isn't performing as it should! I was starting to believe that because i tried every single custom sense rom available and although performance increased significantly, it didn't act like a dual core phone with a powerful gpu! So yesterday i installed some performance scripts (on top of a custom rom and kernel ) that made my phone run a lot faster and smoother. I was very satisfied until i went to help a friend of mine with his brand new desire s! His phone is just updated to sense 3.0 (android 2.3.5) and it was a lot faster (on stock) than my dual core Sensation with custom sense 3.5 rom and sensation xe ( 1.5 ghz) kernel! You can imagine how much faster it is than stock sensation! And i ask my self: How can an inferior hardware ( by the same manufacturer !!!! ) can run the same software ( sense 3.0 ) so much faster and smoother!? I believe the problem is not Sense but the hardware Drivers! If we could find a way to change the drivers ( lets say from T Mobile SGS2 that has the same processor ) maybe the Sensation can really be Sensational ! Just my 2 cents! Cheers!
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I noticed this too. My Incredible S performs a bit smoother than my sensation sometimes. Especially on the home screen/rosie area. I don't know about gaming and stuff though.

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Sense 3.0

Just saw the New Sense 3.0 on the newly announced Sensation. Will our Desire S going to have a taste of that new UI?
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It depends on how the hardware can cope with the new sense. Probably, but not likely
So indeed the answer is no... Have a look at engadget website (I am not allowed to post links yet...)
"HTC Sense 3.0 will only support Sensation, EVO 3D, Flyer and newer devices, older hardware left behind"
Okay, I've already read the article. But what would be Android's next version? Will it have hardware specifics too?
titus1 said:
Okay, I've already read the article. But what would be Android's next version? Will it have hardware specifics too?
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The Desire S has 2.3.3 Gingerbread, which is currently the latest version of Android for phones. As for Ice Cream (of unknown numbering), there's no telling what hardware requirements Google may impose, so we won't know if Ice Cream will make its way to the Desire models.
TheUndutchable said:
So indeed the answer is no... Have a look at engadget website (I am not allowed to post links yet...)
"HTC Sense 3.0 will only support Sensation, EVO 3D, Flyer and newer devices, older hardware left behind"
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That's not entirely true. In their first tweet, which everyone is quite well aware of, HTC said that Sense 3.0 won't be supported on their older models (including the Desire S) due to the limitations of their older hardware.
However, in a later tweet, which many people may have overlooked, they mentioned that while they can't port the whole Sense 3.0, they have been trying to port other improvements that aren't so performance-dependent to the older models.
As a result, while older hardware may not be able to run Sense 3.0 to the satisfaction of their QA division, there are other features that can be brought in. In fact, from the leaked HTC Desire Gingerbread ROM, we know that HTC is trying to bring, amongst other things, the very useful Fast Boot feature to the old HTC Desire. Fast Boot does not eat up additional CPU cycles or occupy extra RAM in order to realise its benefits, so it is an ideal candidate for them to bring to their older models without hampering their performance.
Lastly, if it helps you sleep better, rest assured that the developers at xda are working hard at porting the inevitable leaked ROMs to the old models, though the quality of the experience is anyone's guess.
The guys in the desire hd forum have a leaked sense 3.0 rom....stumbling block seems to be the screen resolution.
Im sure sense 3.0 will be unofficially supported on most of the 2010/2011 htc devices
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Whether it gets it officially is one question.
But this article shows that people are already trying Custom ROMS on the Desire HD with it.....so once our device is unlocked/rooted it will only be a matter of time
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/desire-hd-gets-the-first-ever-pyramid-port-yes-sense-3-0-too/
the hd2 with old outdated hardware even got the port. so clearly htc is lying abt compatability. they just want the new sense on their latest flagship phones so ppl will buy it.
The reason for haddware capability is that the sense takes up 3gb storage, the sensation has 4gb rom, but 1gb accessible; the 3gb is used up by the rom + sense
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olyloh6696 said:
the hd2 with old outdated hardware even got the port. so clearly htc is lying abt compatability. they just want the new sense on their latest flagship phones so ppl will buy it.
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This has been discussed ad nauseum on xda, but it always bears repeating to note that the HD2 is anything but outdated. A 1 GHz single-core processor and 512 MB RAM is a very common spec in the current range of phones. By the same yardstick, we would be calling the Galaxy S and HTC Desire 'outdated' as well.
I won't discount the possibility that they're doing this to increase the appeal of the Sensation, but let's keep in mind that Sense 3.0 has only some incremental updates. People won't go for the Sensation just for some cool 3D animations and a fancy lockscreen, and for the same reasons, a lot of us won't miss it too. Besides, they do need some differentiating factor for their flagship model that takes advantage of its hardware.
well the reason i consider the hd2 outdated hardware is that it has the 1st gen cpu snapdgragon, which has been suceeded by the mich more powerful effiecitne 2nd gen. S if htc ae limiting the update on the dhd for
'a weak hardware'(2nd gen cpu) than the hd2 (1st gen) gets the update working smooth
so clearly it isnt much of a hardware requirement!
I agree with you. There's nothing to stop us from running Sense 3.0 on our current phones, but to my knowledge, the Sense 3.0 port isn't always that smooth on the DHD, let alone the HD2. The obvious problems with screen resolution aside, it's true that it's working so far, but such tests have so far been done at a low level of activity (fresh boot), and without all the cached programs and background processes one would expect in a typical Android phone that is used on a daily basis. When you start factoring in the demands of placed upon a phone to complete everyday tasks, lags and other issues will start cropping up, especially with an interface as heavy as Sense 3.0.
I mean, you could run AutoCAD on your home desktop now, and it might even work with something simple like drawing a rectangle, but that doesn't mean it'll continue to work so smoothly when you're using it for a normal workload, like designing an automobile. Sounds somewhat exaggerated, I know, but hardware does matter where a smooth user experience is concerned.
Madrenergic said:
I agree with you. There's nothing to stop us from running Sense 3.0 on our current phones, but to my knowledge, the Sense 3.0 port isn't always that smooth on the DHD, let alone the HD2. The obvious problems with screen resolution aside, it's true that it's working so far, but such tests have so far been done at a low level of activity (fresh boot), and without all the cached programs and background processes one would expect in a typical Android phone that is used on a daily basis. When you start factoring in the demands of placed upon a phone to complete everyday tasks, lags and other issues will start cropping up, especially with an interface as heavy as Sense 3.0.
I mean, you could run AutoCAD on your home desktop now, and it might even work with something simple like drawing a rectangle, but that doesn't mean it'll continue to work so smoothly when you're using it for a normal workload, like designing an automobile. Sounds somewhat exaggerated, I know, but hardware does matter where a smooth user experience is concerned.
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good point. anyway, at the end of the day, it really depends what the user prefers; the latest best software to compromise for a slower, slightly laggy phone, or for the official updates.
IMO, i will be quite happy with what htc have to bring to the Desire S (their version of 3.0) I'm not to bothered about the fancy 3d spinning cubes, but i'd like the new lockscreen, and weather widgets (we should hopefully get the new weather thing as the WP7 HD7has it on a single core 1st Gen Snapdragon CPU)
olyloh6696 said:
good point. anyway, at the end of the day, it really depends what the user prefers; the latest best software to compromise for a slower, slightly laggy phone, or for the official updates.
IMO, i will be quite happy with what htc have to bring to the Desire S (their version of 3.0) I'm not to bothered about the fancy 3d spinning cubes, but i'd like the new lockscreen, and weather widgets (we should hopefully get the new weather thing as the WP7 HD7has it on a single core 1st Gen Snapdragon CPU)
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Definitely. That's why we love xda. There's just so much choice and freedom to do what we want to our phone that suits our tastes. I hope the devs here manage to hack Sense 3.0 so that everyone can flash it to enjoy. I, on the other hand, have to be content with what Samsung gives me. Cheers.

SGS II regret................

Hi Guys
I bought the SGS II but i started to regret this decision after a couple of days
Everyone wants something out of a phone and Sensation might be a perfect fit for one person, while the SGS II for another
I owned the desire HD before and I really appreciated how smooth the interface was, and the number of business widgets readily available with sense (email, calendar, people, friend stream). I also appreciated how social networking is integrated into sense
In all honesty SGS II is a beast when it comes to speed, but it UI is way behind sense. Out of the box it does not offer the widgets i want,and 3rd party widgets are not as good or do not offer functionality or integration with sense
Amazingly, SGS II UI also becomes laggy when you fillout 7 screens with widgets. I had 7 screens of widgets on the DHD and the scrolling was very smooth
SO MY QUESTION IS
is this smoothness retained in sense 3.0. Do they still have the same nice sense widgets integrated with the system and is sense still smooth even after you fill out 7 screens with widgets ?
Thx
Yes everything is integrated very well. So far no lag with filling 7 screens with widgets
idesmond said:
Yes everything is integrated very well. So far no lag with filling 7 screens with widgets
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same here. 7 Screens filled. No lag
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e with my finger using telepathy
Went from Desire HD til Sensation, and I am very pleased.
The form factor of the Sensation, although the difference is not huge on paper, is all in favour of the Sensation. It's much more manageable, and feels better in my hand.
The build quality is better, and to me it feels like an "improved" Desire HD, where all small quirks have been fixed (like battery and Sim card covers, and power/volume buttons)
In short the Sensation feels like a better quality device.
I have always liked Sense, and Sense 3.0 is a very good improvement, with nice new features. (I used Sense 3 addons on my DHD, and I would never go back to Sense 2.1 now)
It is to early for me to conclude battery performance, since the battery only have 2-3 cycles completed, but I have complaints on performance so far.
Speed of dual core is also hard to comment, as my Desire HD ran custom ROM, so it was fast. The Sensation does not feel slow at all, but about the same as the single core 1Ghz DHD. My guess is that when HTC opens the bootloader and custom ROMs are created, it will be noticably faster!
To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if Sense 3.0 is ported to SGS II and TouchWiz 4.0 is ported to Sensation
I've always said I don't really mind what software the phone is running (as long as it's Android!) because I or another dev can port the software I'd like
i personally hate widgets and sense. So on my sensation I went with launcher pro and like 2 widgets. I dunno its just personal preference i guess everything is.
redbullcat said:
To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if Sense 3.0 is ported to SGS II
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You should be surprised if that happens, because Sense has never been successfully ported to a non-HTC phone. Mildly functional versions have made it to the original Motorola Droid and some Galaxy S variants, but they have never been daily drivers. There are just too many proprietary HTC bits for developers to reverse engineer.
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You should be surprised if that happens, because Sense has never been successfully ported to a non-HTC phone. Mildly functional versions have made it to the original Motorola Droid and some Galaxy S variants, but they have never been daily drivers. There are just too many proprietary HTC bits for developers to reverse engineer.
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That was all before HTC opened the DEV Center for Sense, it may get quite a bit easier to work with Sense.
karnovaran said:
You should be surprised if that happens, because Sense has never been successfully ported to a non-HTC phone. Mildly functional versions have made it to the original Motorola Droid and some Galaxy S variants, but they have never been daily drivers. There are just too many proprietary HTC bits for developers to reverse engineer.
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Always time for a first, though

Why i feel the htc sensation at 1.5Ghz slower than the Optimus 3D at 1Ghz in all rom?

I dont know why, but cyanogen, and sense roms, still sloow and unresponsive, compared to the Optimus 3D, the optimus 3D its super fast and fluid...
Someone can tell me why?...
And better dont set the HTC Sensation at 1Ghz, still slower than at 1.5Ghz...
My old HTC HD2 stills smoother...
I think is because of the way the processors are setup. They don't seem to be optimize 100% possibly because is a new way of building phones. Two cores instead of one and that might make it harder to optimize and build drivers.
However on the latest ruu with sense 3.5 people are reporting that everything seems smoother.
moshe22 said:
I think is because of the way the processors are setup. They don't seem to be optimize 100% possibly because is a new way of building phones. Two cores instead of one and that might make it harder to optimize and build drivers.
However on the latest ruu with sense 3.5 people are reporting that everything seems smoother.
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Optimus 3D stills on 2.2 Froyo, and runs super fast... i mean, the sensation runs good, but isnt fluid at all, and not as fast as the O3D, and other devices. ( SGSII, O2X...etc )
And this CPU is suposed to be the best of all those CPU outhere, because its the most powerfull of adreno, and runs by default at 1.5Ghz, consuming small amount of power.
CM and MiUi both fly on the Sensation!
digiholic said:
CM and MiUi both fly on the Sensation!
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Yea, but still unstable
|ErosizeD| said:
Yea, but still unstable
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CM7 is really stable. Try it out. The device really flies, even underclocked.
|ErosizeD| said:
And this CPU is suposed to be the best of all those CPU outhere, because its the most powerfull of adreno, and runs by default at 1.5Ghz, consuming small amount of power.
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lolno.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/14
Miui is pretty stable. Barely any bugs
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I concur with you because I had the G2x which flew through everything, sadly it didn't work the way it is suppose to most of the time even after update and LG support is horrible, no communication with their customers whatsover, which is what made ne switch to the Sensation. Even though the Sensation is not as fluid I really much enjoy it much more than my G2x.
So I'm not sure what is it that makes this phone stutter.
I haven't tried other ROMs other than Sense but I still enjoy my phone.
Speak for yourself..not everyone's Sensation runs and functions the way your phone does. Mine flies. Try switching roms, tweak it, switch kernels whatever
Speak for urself.... my sensation flies through anything. Other than some alpha bugs in Selfkang7, this phone is amazingly fast. I've never used anything better. Buy I also haven't messed with a galaxy s2, lol
Sensation 4g Cm7/faux 1.56ghz -25UV
Except for the very rare reboot mine's great. Running arhd 3.6
hello00 said:
Speak for yourself..not everyone's Sensation runs and functions the way your phone does. Mine flies. Try switching roms, tweak it, switch kernels whatever
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I flashed a new radio, and wow, i can say, now seems more smoother than before! and doesnt lag scrolling things!!!
|ErosizeD| said:
I flashed a new radio, and wow, i can say, now seems more smoother than before! and doesnt lag scrolling things!!!
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Ummmm.... flashing a radio really won't help your scrolling speed and overall smoothness (unless you had a bad radio on there messing things up).
I'm starting to question your reliability and expertise on this matter of Sensation performance.
digiholic said:
CM and MiUi both fly on the Sensation!
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Off-topic: Nice to see another Jackson player!
lol i got both phones and before this i had s2 which i sold like an idiot
S2 is the best fastest and has better mods and roms
Sensation xe is very good and smooth with right set up
O3D iv had for few weeks now hardly any roms to download most are tooo laggy tried stock ones they running ok aslong as i dont install too many apps
I have got a Defy and a Sensation
The main problem of Sensation is that the screen is not sensitive and does not response quick enough
u just keep dragging the unlock ring around and u will understand what i mean
My best advice is to flash Android Revolution HD, the stable one. Not the ICS, but the real-deal ARHD rom. It's GPU accelerated and actually feels like it. Never lags for me, ever.
mattbutsko said:
My best advice is to flash Android Revolution HD, the stable one. Not the ICS, but the real-deal ARHD rom. It's GPU accelerated and actually feels like it. Never lags for me, ever.
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Looking forward to the ICS ROM
|ErosizeD| said:
I dont know why, but cyanogen, and sense roms, still sloow and unresponsive, compared to the Optimus 3D, the optimus 3D its super fast and fluid...
Someone can tell me why?...
And better dont set the HTC Sensation at 1Ghz, still slower than at 1.5Ghz...
My old HTC HD2 stills smoother...
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If you haven't try flashing one of the official release ruu to update your phone partition. Or look for a thread that has the firmware package.
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Why made you decide to mod your Desire S?

Having owned an original HTC Desire, there are huge advantages to rooting it etc. It's biggest fault was its poor internal memory storage therefore low disk space was always an issue when it came to installing apps as stock. Therefore rooting allows use of the EXT of the sd card thus increase memory available. In addition, the Desire was left behind restricted to Froyo with only a poor Gingerbread and lacking sense 3.0 update to be released by HTC.
But now after becoming the owner of a Desire S I am less inclined to mod it! These previous issues are gone, with 1GB of internal storage it is far more than sufficient. Gingerbread and Sense 3.0 is the shipped software, with lets be honest not a whole of difference in comparison to 3.5.
Overclocking is never something I have seen necessary, my Saga runs smooth and I don't experience any lag etc so this bonus with rooting I have no interest with.
Therefore I propose to you, why made you decide to root and flash custom roms on your Saga?
What benefits have they brought that you believe are essential? Or are you just a bit of a modding junkie
Thanks for taking your time to read my thread, I hope you guys can share with me some of your opinions and feedback received here can help less eager users like myself!
I just hated Sense...
+1. I bought the phone because it was cheaper than the equivalent phone from another company. Also the build quality was much better. Although I didn't mind sense I planned to switch to cyanogenmod as soon as it became available (thanks superkid )
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Well, for me it was something completely opposite of you both, i wanted Sense 3 on my device with the awesome lockscreen and carousel-like home screen. I first saw that on my friend's DHD, who helped me A LOT in flashing my first ROM.
I too came from a Desire... And I too was impressed by the improvement the Desire S is compared to the Desire. It was very good just out of the box.
However, I missed the little tweaks I made using the miui rom. For some reason I felt the Miui rom to be more intuitive, more adaptable to my quircky needs... With the Miui rom I can just tweak the way it looks more precisely. I want another lock screen, fine, just change the lock screen. Another launcher, another font, another .... you get the drift.
I was a great fan of Sense. Tried several CM and non-sense roms, but I just ended up missing Sense. The non-sense were lightning fast, but still missed the good feel of sense. Then I tried Miui and now I wonder where the rom was all that time...
That's why I Rom my DesireS...
Grtz,
J.
I love build quality of HTC phones and extremely hate anything that is overbloated. Sense is a queen of bloatware. It was nice to have it on HTC Hero (v1,6) UNTIL i've found CyanogenMod. Since than all my phones (Hero, Legend, G2, *Failation*, DS) were powered by CM. Fast, functional and simple. This what Android is meant to be.
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I started because I knew virgin would take forever to release sense 3.0 update
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Many reasons:
Get rid of operator software
Get rid of HTC Sense
Overclocking
Upgrade to the newest Android Version
Other minor reasons: remote control, screen captures...
First of all: Titanium backup (which requires root).
The phone before my Desire S was also running android, so I wanted to restore my apps.
Reason 2: Custom roms + custom recovery.
I wanted to try out sense 3.0 (The official update was way later than a fully working custom ROM) and custom ROM's tend to have better performance and more fixes compared to official releases due to custom kernels etc.
Reason 3: Remove bloatware
Reason 4: Make all apps work, even those that require root.
dontjudgemekk said:
Having owned an original HTC Desire, there are huge advantages to rooting it etc. It's biggest fault was its poor internal memory storage therefore low disk space was always an issue when it came to installing apps as stock. Therefore rooting allows use of the EXT of the sd card thus increase memory available. In addition, the Desire was left behind restricted to Froyo with only a poor Gingerbread and lacking sense 3.0 update to be released by HTC.
But now after becoming the owner of a Desire S I am less inclined to mod it! These previous issues are gone, with 1GB of internal storage it is far more than sufficient. Gingerbread and Sense 3.0 is the shipped software, with lets be honest not a whole of difference in comparison to 3.5.
Overclocking is never something I have seen necessary, my Saga runs smooth and I don't experience any lag etc so this bonus with rooting I have no interest with.
Therefore I propose to you, why made you decide to root and flash custom roms on your Saga?
What benefits have they brought that you believe are essential? Or are you just a bit of a modding junkie
Thanks for taking your time to read my thread, I hope you guys can share with me some of your opinions and feedback received here can help less eager users like myself!
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With Desire S stock - 100% satisfied
Modded Desire S - 200% satisfied.
Also I recommend sense 3.5, much much better than 3.0. It adds more functionality
It's been tweaked a hell lot better and about 50% faster than 3.0. Trust me. You will feel the difference.
Trust me, I was like you when I first got my desire S.
It did all I wanted. What more could I want?
Then I decided to just try rooting and see what it was like.
Then after rooting, with ROMs etc, it made the phone much much better.
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1. i'm new to rooting/flashing android phones. my phone prior to the DS was the Wildfire. I had it for a little over a year and it remains 100% stock to this day so i wanted to experiment on the DS. I was originally gonna go for the Sensation XE was since I'm new to rooting, It'd hurt less if i bricked the DS compared to the Sensation XE
2. to get rid of the extra stuff like plurk, twitter etc that i don't even use.
3. it's FUN!
Because once you started s-offing and rooting and changing roms, you wont be able to stop. Because there are some feelings that came with it. Escpecially overclocking thing.
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i haven't tried overclocking my DS just yet. I dunno, maybe it's just not my thing but to each his own i'm sure i'll give it a whirl just to test it. but gotta read up on it a lot first before i actually try it. ROM wise, i'm currently using Endymion 3.1 and it's VERY nice indeed happy new year in advance to everyone
theres nothing to worry if you overclock your ds. i tried to overclocked my phone up to 1.6ghz and battery temp is still at 34. Im currently on MikRunny Rom
olyloh6696 said:
With Desire S stock - 100% satisfied
Modded Desire S - 200% satisfied.
Also I recommend sense 3.5, much much better than 3.0. It adds more functionality
It's been tweaked a hell lot better and about 50% faster than 3.0. Trust me. You will feel the difference.
Trust me, I was like you when I first got my desire S.
It did all I wanted. What more could I want?
Then I decided to just try rooting and see what it was like.
Then after rooting, with ROMs etc, it made the phone much much better.
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I am really tempted to try a Sense 3.5 rom, it does appear that HTC have refined it a lot more
dontjudgemekk said:
I am really tempted to try a Sense 3.5 rom, it does appear that HTC have refined it a lot more
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Do it
you won't regret it
or just use 3.0 for a while longer and see where you would like improvements, then when you get bored use 3.5
I rooted because T-mobile took ages to update to Sense 3, and I new ICS was coming and I would want to switch to CM9 asap. Now running Superkid/MDJ's ROM, despite a few bugs very usable, no going back for me, only forward to a (once again) fully working ROM. Also, I thought Sense 2.5 was quite fluent, appreciated the more fluent sense 3.0, but it lags like hell compared to AOSP ICS
1. Apps, that needs ROOT.
2. Other ROMS, i always was interested in MIUI ROM.
3. Now ICS, I probably won't come back to Sense (maybe to 4.0)
One of the main reasons why i got into the unlocking and rooting business is because i hate being told what i cannot do with my own stuff. Kinda stinks "Apple" all over, and i hate that kind of cheap marketing. i bought a device with an open-source operating system for what? To be told that since my device has a non-open-source custom UI, i can't experiment with it (despite buying it out to the last penny)?
Screw that. I just wanted to S-Off and root for the heck of it. Hell, when i did that, there weren't even any good ROMs available for the DS, except a couple that i never liked much anyway. My reasons for S-off and rooting today have matured and changed from those days...but i still remember the anger i felt when i had found about s-on after purchasing my phone... (this was my first android, and i didn't know ANYTHING!!). But look at where we've come today...we have one of the the best performing beta ICS on any device, and if it were not for the camera, it would be good enough to be released as stable!
Would we have gotten this far with a locked bootloader?
So why did i root? Because HTC said i couldn't.
Because of apps which need root, because to get rid of bloatware which comes with Sense, because I simply wanted to do it.
I've started with CM, but I couldn't fix the GPS issue so I switched to some Runny ROMS. Now I'm a happy user of MIUI, which is for me the best mobile experience in my life

Speed of Sensation roms

I've had my sensation for a while now, with numerous tweaks on it and running a custom rom (Android Rev right now, others from time to time).
But last night i picked up my wife's Desire (not HD, original) which is also tweaked and has (I think) LeeDroid on it and was more than a little shocked to find that, if anything, its smoother and more responsive than my Sensation. Swishing thru menus, firing up apps and scrolling thru homescreens was noticably better.
Neither phone is overclocked by the way, but have v6 on them.
now I haven't tried every Sensation rom out there, but Id be amazed to find one that was significantly faster than the one's Iv tried using to date, that also still has Sense. Given the comparative specs of the sensation and desire, even allowing for the higher res screen on the sensation, I was a little bit miffed.
i just wondered if anyone had any thoughts on why there's such a difference?
I've had a Desire, Desire HD and Incredible S - all with custom ROM's, but non of them is as fast as my Sensation.
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BishopBlaize said:
I've had my sensation for a while now, with numerous tweaks on it and running a custom rom (Android Rev right now, others from time to time).
But last night i picked up my wife's Desire (not HD, original) which is also tweaked and has (I think) LeeDroid on it and was more than a little shocked to find that, if anything, its smoother and more responsive than my Sensation. Swishing thru menus, firing up apps and scrolling thru homescreens was noticably better.
Neither phone is overclocked by the way, but have v6 on them.
now I haven't tried every Sensation rom out there, but Id be amazed to find one that was significantly faster than the one's Iv tried using to date, that also still has Sense. Given the comparative specs of the sensation and desire, even allowing for the higher res screen on the sensation, I was a little bit miffed.
i just wondered if anyone had any thoughts on why there's such a difference?
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I have no idea why, but I noticed the same here. My Incredible S FLIES, the sensation... little delays, I've gotten used to it but it still bothers me. I would think it has something to do with being "dual-core" but I've really no idea why!
Are you guys running an ICS ROM?
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I'm running ICS with 3.25 FW and has no delay what so ever. Apps open faster, Sense widgets, like weather is faster.
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how many apps are installed on each phone? how many were running in the memory at the time of your "test"? i've had htc inspire before and wouldn't compare the two. wait for ics to roll out as well, since it should help optimize things better.
moshe22 said:
Are you guys running an ICS ROM?
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Yep, using InsertCoin. 100% sure ICS is faster than GB. I got longer delays in GB, still get them in ICS but it's not that bad. Just one in a while, here and there opening something will delay a couple seconds.
As for the other guy mentioning the apps and everything, pretty much the same. How many in the memory <- that I didn't test.
My old Samsung Galaxy S on ICS (Onecosmic port) was much more responsive and smoothy than HTC (I've tested four ICS roms), but apps are running faster on HTC. Only drawer, switching screens or doing something at the level of rom user interface are slower.
Doesn't matter I'm using ICS with or without sense. I haven't try GB.
Yeah, im running android rev 6.2.1. Ive run the v6 supercharger script and a few other bits and pieces. I mean the sensation experience is great compared to when it first popped out of the box. But it had been ages since I picked up the Desire and I was really taken aback by how smooth it was.

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