I saw in a google + thread that android, since 1.5 version was software rendered, would our little GPU be able to render some launchers? If yes, i'm looking for a method to enable it, I think our phones would be a lot smoother and less laggy (I overclocked a little time ago but i didn't saw any difference)
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most people say our little g3 doesnt have a GPU :'(
well youll have to edit the elg.cfg to enable HW redering though
Thanks, Well I'm going to give it a try, but our little SG3 has a smll FIMG 3DSE GPU, maybe Tom3q OpenFIMG will help us to have better smoothness then
GPU Rendering is one of the reason of the importance to get Android 4.0 working on our G3, because GPU is used for smooth animation and very smooth luncher .
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ICS is a mix of gingerbread and Honeycomb and it has fully hardware acceleration unlike honeycomb which has partially.
I do wonder why navigating in ICS with a Galaxy Nexus isn't as fluid and smooth as let's say a Samsung Galaxy tab?
Here's an example on Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftljZ9yGsiE
And if you have used a Galaxy Nexus or seen video with it, you can clearly see that when opening the app drawer and navigating in the OS isn't as smooth as Honeycomb.
Could anyone clear this out for me?
I noticed that too, even apps running on GB is much faster than ICS . There are still many performance tuning work to do I believe.
BTW: by default , GPU acceleration in ICS is disabled , right ?
coolsixty said:
I noticed that too, even apps running on GB is much faster than ICS . There are still many performance tuning work to do I believe.
BTW: by default , GPU acceleration in ICS is disabled , right ?
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I really don't know, maybe someone else can anwear this?
read this about hw accel first
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
I've been wondering ..
I've got ICS on my transformer and i've got root .. I saw some video of benchmarks for the transformer with HC and then with ICS .. and ICS was getting alot better score (35-40% or some).
I know some people where overclocking with HC and some custom kernels, but i doubt there is yet a custom kernel for the ICS..
But is anyone here that had overclocked Transformer with HC, that can tell me how much diffrence OC'ing made ? 10%? 20%? none at all ?
Also was is stable ?
I would like to go to maybe 1.2ghz.. 1.3ghz even .. But im not sure if it is worth the trouble.
I had my TF overclocked to 1.5ghz 24/7 (using Interactive Governor) on Krakd Rom and it was extremely stable, never rebooted or froze and I can say it made a pretty big difference in speed/responsiveness. I would say around 30% increase IMO.
It varies between tablets though so you may find your tablet is unable to OC at 1.5 ghz and remain stable.
The browser in HC @ 1.5ghz was faster for me than it is now on ICS stock clock (Revolution HD) so I can't wait for an OC kernel to be released for ICS to hopefully get the browser running a bit quicker.
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I had my TF overclocked to 1.5ghz 24/7 (using Interactive Governor) on Krakd Rom and it was extremely stable, never rebooted or froze and I can say it made a pretty big difference in speed/responsiveness. I would say around 30% increase IMO.
It varies between tablets though so you may find your tablet is unable to OC at 1.5 ghz and remain stable.
The browser in HC @ 1.5ghz was faster for me than it is now on ICS stock clock (Revolution HD) so I can't wait for an OC kernel to be released for ICS to hopefully get the browser running a bit quicker.
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Alost exactly the same for me except i seem to find the browser in ICS only a tiny bit faster and then only on some sites and then only whilst doing the initial render. After that render I find ICS to be much faster, even than OC HC.
I'm sticking with stock unrooted ICS for now and won't be doing anything different until somebody creates an OC kernel for it.
Howdy everyone,
i happened to come across an app on the market called CPU Gauge and this demonstrates to you exactly what each core on your phone is doing at all times, even in your notification bar at all times. Now i have noticed no matter what i do there only ever seems to be 1 core running which is pretty pants i reckon. how can i enable it to run dual cores all of the time? i dont understand it personally, why have a dual channel architecture if its hardly ever used? and surely it having to decide whether to use one core over two and to send data down both channels or just the one is probably a reason why we get lag? i am probably completely wrong but id rather the cpus always be on and drain battery if it improves overall performance
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Howdy everyone,
i happened to come across an app on the market called CPU Gauge and this demonstrates to you exactly what each core on your phone is doing at all times, even in your notification bar at all times. Now i have noticed no matter what i do there only ever seems to be 1 core running which is pretty pants i reckon. how can i enable it to run dual cores all of the time? i dont understand it personally, why have a dual channel architecture if its hardly ever used? and surely it having to decide whether to use one core over two and to send data down both channels or just the one is probably a reason why we get lag? i am probably completely wrong but id rather the cpus always be on and drain battery if it improves overall performance
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Though a mod will move this thread please post questions in the general section this is for development purposes only..
But if what you say is true i will have to look into this. What rom are you currently running?
Just a rooted/overclocked LG stock gingerbread rom.
For me it shows 2 Cores working ,but second is ON only when needed (as it should be) So its OK. Lags are because of poor ram managment on LG software, I recommend Rushdroid ROM.
What I know, Android 2.3 and below does not provide a support for multi cores. However, ICS does support it. So, I think the phone will run much better when the ICS update comes.
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What I know, Android 2.3 and below does not provide a support for multi cores. However, ICS does support it. So, I think the phone will run much better when the ICS update comes.
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nope. thasts only an urban legend But it can improve performance at some points, but I would be rather sceptic. Custom roms must be always better (what they are doing making software, making it slower on purpose? go Samsung way and hire cm team members)
In games it uses both cores but im dissapointed that when testing swapping between different apps and web browsing seemed to all be using just the one core, and that was with lags inbetween swapping from for instance gallery to browser. I love this phone great specs but it annoys me more and more to think LG really did have no clue when it came down to putting it all into action. is there any way to have 2 cores on at all times or atleast change the values that decide when to use second core/channel.
If anything it makes for an interesting discussion
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nope. thasts only an urban legend But it can improve performance at some points, but I would be rather sceptic. Custom roms must be always better (what they are doing making software, making it slower on purpose? go Samsung way and hire cm team members)
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It has a partial support, not 100%, and the proof is that all dual core phones which received ICD update, got a huge improvement in the performance, as their users said.
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In games it uses both cores but im dissapointed that when testing swapping between different apps and web browsing seemed to all be using just the one core, and that was with lags inbetween swapping from for instance gallery to browser. I love this phone great specs but it annoys me more and more to think LG really did have no clue when it came down to putting it all into action. is there any way to have 2 cores on at all times or atleast change the values that decide when to use second core/channel.
If anything it makes for an interesting discussion
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The processor works as it should be, all cores when needed. Check System Panel app. Ram is the issue here. On stock it will be always laggy. On rushdroid and samba there is good ram management. Almost 250mb for the user. On stock i doubt if there is 130mb free available.
@up: there is no evidence that GB supports 1 core only and ICS multiple cores. A better performance on ICS can be due to the bigger optimizations, and hw support (that can be buggy) like gpu enabled scrolling etc.
But Ive heard that ics supports fully multicores, and that is an urban legend for me (no evidence) Ics can be just more optimized than gingerbread (and more like honeycomb which was quite fast)
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The processor works as it should be, all cores when needed. Check System Panel app. Ram is the issue here. On stock it will be always laggy. On rushdroid and samba there is good ram management. Almost 250mb for the user. On stock i doubt if there is 130mb free available.
@up: there is no evidence that GB supports 1 core only and ICS multiple cores. A better performance on ICS can be due to the bigger optimizations, and hw support (that can be buggy) like gpu enabled scrolling etc.
But Ive heard that ics supports fully multicores, and that is an urban legend for me (no evidence) Ics can be just more optimized than gingerbread (and more like honeycomb which was quite fast)
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you are correct cores are working as they should be not a problem here at... Gingerbread supports multicore and does use the cpu to the max when needed, you don't need to run both your cores all the time if that was the case you would need to charge your phone every 3 hours....
The issue with our optimus 3d is it needs ram tweaks to keep it smooth, 512mb ram is good i am not complaining because it's dual channel and so on so the ram speed is amazing just to free up ram we have tweaks...
Also the cpu is used to the max when needed, when you make a call you do not need both cores working at the same time that would be pointless. But when you play games, browse the net and bench your device all cores are used at the same time...
if you want to try it (see the difference) with both cores enabled ,(and cpu speed at max) try system tuner app , in cpu setting put governor to "performance" the first core will go to max speed , then go to active tweak and there is an option to force all cpu on , try it , it will be hard for the battery... when you put governor back to hotplug , the second core will return on demand (on/off) . if you want to do it again after you have to redo all step and turn the force all cpu on off and on again...
i'm on v21D on rushdroid 3.6.3. Both cores show up as working. 1 core ususally hits 1.4ghz and 2nd one upto 1ghz during regular processing. Great app btw tnx for letting us know
Which kernel you use on rushdroid @1,4ghz?
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Which kernel you use on rushdroid @1,4ghz?
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Titan kernal v21d
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Its not neccessary to use dual core all the times ,using dual core for small task degrade the performance that increasing. Since our phone have dual memory the cache plays an important role in deciding which core should be used.
I have tried a couple of AOSP-like ICS ROMs (HyperNonSense, Virtuous Inquisition 4.0) and I am not very happy with the performance. Pressing the back button often causes a small stutter or lag, and browsing (although fast) has lag on occasion or stutters.
It is not that the experience is 'bad', but it is not as fluid and fast as one would expect it to be from a dual-core phone with the kind of specs included within.
To give you a better idea, my Samsung Galaxy S (i9000), running the BlueLighting ROM (ICS 4.0.3) with a 'mild' OC to 1.2 GhZ runs buttery smooth, and beats my Sensation XE (ICS 4.0.3, tested at 1.2 GhZ 'underclock, 1.5 Ghz 'stock' and 1.7 Ghz 'OC') every time and in every situation: Browsing pictures, using stock browser, browsing applications, contacts, pressing the back button etc.
Why does a phone with a single-core CPU, clocked lower, and what seems to be inferior specs outperform a phone that should be doing much better?
I love AOSP experience, and I would ideally avoid any Sense-ROMs (although Sense-lite are ok, I suppose).
Can anyone tell me what their mileage is, with which ICS ROM, and whether you think there is a ROM I should try?
Thanks!
I also had the Virtous Inquisition Rom on my Sensation and i have to say it works very well.
Maybe you have to try another aosp rom like the Cyanogen mod9 from ultimate sensation,it also works very good for me
Thanks I will give it a try and let you know!
Also, can anyone suggest a good ICS kernel? I have had trouble finding a stable kernel. Some can work fine at speeds above 1.6GhZ, but some will not even boot -- perhaps they are not for ICS. I will have to look around. I am surprised there is (no offence!) little variety and option on offer in regards to kernels -- particularly for those interested in the more exotic CPU profiles.
I have also used both Hyper NonSense (1.5 currently, no longer being developed but is stable) and early Virtuous Inquisition releases. For me, both were quite fast - Hyper NonSense more so, but I haven't used a recent release of VI. In both cases, I stuck with the stock kernel distributed with the ROM.
FWIW, Hyper NonSense has also been giving me EXCELLENT battery life. It's a shame to see development stop on it.
hi all,
i want to root and overclock my TF300T
for the overclocking:
-Can i use setcpu ? What other tool is good for OC ?
- Do i need a Costum ROM for overclocking to 1.5Ghz (MAX!)
-Will the performance be a lot better ? or just better ? or no diffrence ?
-What is the highest possible OC ?
Thank you
If you are on ICS you can over clock to 1.5 no problem. I don't know about Setcpu on ICS, but I do know EzOverclock works.
If you upgraded to Jellybean, I don't know of anyway to overclock as of yet. EzOverclock won't work on Jellybean and reportedly causes boot loops. I tried setcpu on my Jellybean Tf300 and found the CPU to be maxed at 1.3.
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If you are on ICS you can over clock to 1.5 no problem. I don't know about Setcpu on ICS, but I do know EzOverclock works.
If you upgraded to Jellybean, I don't know of anyway to overclock as of yet. EzOverclock won't work on Jellybean and reportedly causes boot loops. I tried setcpu on my Jellybean Tf300 and found the CPU to be maxed at 1.3.
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ok thank you, can i look somewhere to find out when EzOverclock is compatible with JB ?
Thank you
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-Will the performance be a lot better ? or just better ? or no diffrence ?
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It really depends on how you use the tablet, and where your bottleneck is. My feel is that I/O is the biggest bottleneck on the ASUS pads and the effects are felt across the board. I believe ASUS is working on a fix, though. Fingers crossed.
I/O notwithstanding, day-to-day tasks like email and web browsing don't need a 1 Ghz. Even video playback won't be affected by the difference between 1.2 Ghz (the ASUS performance mode) and 1.5 Ghz (typical max OC). Rendering graphics, I'm not sure how much is offloaded to the GPU, so games or graphic heavy applications may be where you'll see the most gains.
EZoverclock don't work on JB it will keeps restarting your tablet when EZoverclock starts.
And other apps work but can only be set to 1.3 so no overclock on JB with this kernel.
I think in graphically intense applications, such as games, would offer the most notable difference even with gpu offloading since not all instructions are graphics related. That being said just know that battery life will take a hit.
Remember...... as of now EzOverclock will not work in Jellybean.....
Here is a link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526311
[APP] - EZOverClock to 1.6 ghz
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