[Q]: How does att knows what phone I am using - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

I just purchased the skyrocket with the $15 data option. I have another old phone with unlimited data for non-smart phone plan. I tried to use the SIM with unlimited data in the SR phone but ATT won't connect because it sees that the phone is the skyrocket and not a non-smart phone. Is there anyway to block att from recognizing the kinda of phone I am using. The unlimited data plan works fine with my HTC kaiser (bought from europe)!

If you can figure out how to mask your IMEI to the network that may work.. But i have no idea how you would do that or if its even legal. But that's how they knew it is a SR.. You old phone probaby worked bc it was not in att's database as you purchased it in EU.
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The SIM card needs to be provisioned for 4G. You'll have to take it to AT&T and tell them you want to provision 4G on you old SIM card.

garypix said:
The SIM card needs to be provisioned for 4G. You'll have to take it to AT&T and tell them you want to provision 4G on you old SIM card.
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they will still look at the IMEI and see it is in their database and know he isnt using a dumbphone

How ya liking the sr ghost?

silver03wrx said:
How ya liking the sr ghost?
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havent got to use it much. too much flashing
im workin on some beta stuff, hope to have something available soon

Haha nice. The 4.5 display is amazing

freeman9911 said:
I just purchased the skyrocket with the $15 data option. I have another old phone with unlimited data for non-smart phone plan. I tried to use the SIM with unlimited data in the SR phone but ATT won't connect because it sees that the phone is the skyrocket and not a non-smart phone. Is there anyway to block att from recognizing the kinda of phone I am using. The unlimited data plan works fine with my HTC kaiser (bought from europe)!
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It is because of the IMEI and SIM. The Skyrocket is an AT&T Device so when you turn it on the IMEI automatically registers with the network and knows it is a Smartphone. Also due to the Skyrocket being an LTE phone it requires a LTE Feature and newer SIM Card.
Your old phone didnt register because the network didnt recognize it due to it was not an AT&T Device.

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Hspa+ on ATT prepaid.

Just was wondering if you guys believe we will be able to get hspa with ATT prepaid.?? Anyone know?
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not any time soon, only a couple markets will have 3g on go phone by the end of march. Until at&t releases prepaid smartphones plans, this will not happen. I have heard that at&t plans to have the entire network (2g and 3g) covered by hspa by the end of 2011. Maybe then will we see some changes.
3G should work on any att phone, gophone or not (assuming there's 3G coverage where you live). HSPA+ definitely won't work, because there are no prepaid HSPA+ features/plans yet.
I used 2 different iPhones on att prepaid. And I got 3g just fine (should work with hspa+ just fine as long as its available in your area). It should work but remember android devices use a lot of data so disable it or make sure that you disable all the apps that sync data.
you cant, it will check the miei number or something and deactivate it
Ok while I know everything works fine on prepaid, no 4g here yet so that much I am not sure. I know after a rom flash you will get a completely different set of APN for prepaid.
cordell507 said:
you cant, it will check the miei number or something and deactivate it
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No it wont. With pay as you go they don't really care because there is no unlimited data for it. You will not get a txt saying you have the wrong data plan. You wont hear anything from att. Like I said before I used 2 different iPhones on a pay as you go ( the original iPhone and the iPhone 3g). I also used 2 different blackberrys too ( the curve and the storm). Never once did att contact me about the phone I was using. I used that sim card for over a year. Then when i went with a contract account they didn't even change my sim card. I continued to use the same sim card till i got my iPhone 4.
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No it wont. With pay as you go they don't really care because there is no unlimited data for it. You will not get a txt saying you have the wrong data plan. You wont hear anything from att. Like I said before I used 2 different iPhones on a pay as you go ( the original iPhone and the iPhone 3g). I also used 2 different blackberrys too ( the curve and the storm). Never once did att contact me about the phone I was using. I used that sim card for over a year. Then when i went with a contract account they didn't even change my sim card. I continued to use the same sim card till i got my iPhone 4.
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Isn't storm a CDMA phone.
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alaimar said:
Isn't storm a CDMA phone.
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Its a world phone. So it has sim card slot and can be unlocked for att and tmobile. So its a cdma and gsm phone.
It's not GoPhone, but I have my Inspire working just fine on StraightTalk, $45/month for unlimited everything. The only downside is that you have to purchase a $200 Nokia StraightTalk smartphone to get a compatible SIM (no way around that) and keep it in a drawer for as long as you have service. My data speeds are just as fast as regular AT&T around my area, about 5mb down, 2mb up.
entropism said:
It's not GoPhone, but I have my Inspire working just fine on StraightTalk, $45/month for unlimited everything. The only downside is that you have to purchase a $200 Nokia StraightTalk smartphone to get a compatible SIM (no way around that) and keep it in a drawer for as long as you have service. My data speeds are just as fast as regular AT&T around my area, about 5mb down, 2mb up.
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O there is hope lol when my contracts up with ATT I will head over to ATT. Thanks for posting this comment
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LTE data not working

I got a new skyrocket off of craigslist (no contract) and I put my sim card from my inspire 4g in the phone. It does not work. On the sim it says 3g, if that means anything in terms of a sim.
Why does it not work in my ATT Skyrocket phone?
You need a 4g/LTE sim card... Call AT&T and make sure your plan is updated.. They have to do something on their end for your AT&T SR to receive LTE.
I dont want to update my plan. Your not very helpful.
you need a lte sim card and the plan on your account to get lte data and speeds. there's no way around it.
lart2150 said:
you need a lte sim card and the plan on your account to get lte data and speeds. there's no way around it.
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Wrong.
Just call AT&T, and ask for LTE unlimited (if you have unlimited data right now), and they'll provision your account correctly.
Register the phones imei with ATT. Call 611 and update it.
Google is your friend.
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I am pretty sure that you can get around having a new plan. Should I just get a new sim card and then I will be good?
mattrb said:
I am pretty sure that you can get around having a new plan. Should I just get a new sim card and then I will be good?
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No... it's an AT&T smartphone, give it a few hours, and they'll automatically slap on a tiered plan if your trying to do the medianet thing.
I have a 3g smartphone plan.
i work for AT&T you totally need a new SIM card (9th and 10th digits needs to be 25) and the LTE data plan, if you have unlimited you can keep it.
but you WILL need to change these for it to work properly.
mattrb said:
I have a 3g smartphone plan.
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Is it unlimited? If they switch you to a 4G LTE plan, it'll be completely fine, you can still swap to the Inspire and get data, just it will work with LTE.
mattrb said:
I dont want to update my plan. Your not very helpful.
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Really? Nice attitude after you ask for help... told you strait up what you need. If you can get AT&T LTE without lte sim, pls let all of us know.
Sorry if I upset you. I am just like everyone else. I want to avoid throttle.
Um, you can and will be throttled on you're current phone and plan if you use to much data,its not just for LTE phones its for all unlimited users
I had to get a new sim. Still kept my plan the same.
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orlandoxpolice said:
I had to get a new sim. Still kept my plan the same.
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Thank you for your great response.
Do I need an old phone to get a new sim card thereby preventing them knowing about my skyrocket when I activate the new sim?
Keep us posted. User experience/posts reflect the new sim alone results in continued connectivity inconsistency on lte phones. Eventually you may have to have them change your plan to an LTE plan. This change does not affect you plan pricing btw...think of it as a plan, with little check marks below it that enable features and they need to enable lte for consistent connectivity
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I went to att to get a new sim card, they activated it and the code on the side of the sim ends in #29 not #25 as a previous poster mentioned as being a lte sim card. They said it was a lte card but I am not sure.
I put the sim in the skyrocket and I get no lte.
Did they lie and say the card was lte but it really wasn't. What do I do?
mattrb said:
I went to att to get a new sim card, they activated it and the code on the side of the sim ends in #29 not #25 as a previous poster mentioned as being a lte sim card. They said it was a lte card but I am not sure.
I put the sim in the skyrocket and I get no lte.
Did they lie and say the card was lte but it really wasn't. What do I do?
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Are you in a LTE area?
Just cause u got a LTE sim doesn't guarantee u LTE service in a non LTE area
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The rep told me that a non lte sim will not even get reception in the skyrocket. I asked because I had the captivate and attempted to insert that sim in the skyrocket. I am not in an lte area yet my 4g icon is always on.
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Why my Skyrocket not getting LTE signal?

Ok so i bought the black Skyrocket of the street, I reset it and everything works fine except no data no matter what i do so finally i made a new apn with cm7 defaults and bam i see 4g so i been happy untill today when i walked in my local AT&T to check the tablets i noticed a skyrocket with 4g lte on the the data sign i didnt ask at&t personnel in fear of loosing my old data plan that thankfully has not yet raised any red flags. I checked the apn and noticed that it was the same as mine except mine doesn't show Lte no matter what i do is mine defective?how can i get 4g lte? is it imei based or need a special sim? also both are on 2.3.6
You have to subscribe to an LTE plan. So you're going to have to talk to your carrier, or see if you can get them to give you a deal on another plan.
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You need the LTE data plan from AT&T and probably a new sim.
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i thought it had to do with the lte capable phone and unlimited data sim. so lte data service is something you have to sign up for no matter what? maybe its just a new sim is what i need? im goin put my sim back in my captivate and tell them it some how got misplaced that way i just get a new sim and hopefully it does the trick. more advice would be appreciated
lexo1a said:
i thought it had to do with the lte capable phone and unlimited data sim. so lte data service is something you have to sign up for no matter what?
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Yes it is, but it doesn't cost extra. You shouldn't see any extra charges on your account. It's just a different data plan that allows LTE access.
lexo1a said:
maybe its just a new sim is what i need?
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Just bring the Skyrocket into your AT&T store and they'll activate your phone with a new SIM while adding the LTE data plan and visual voicemail if you don't already have it.
lexo1a said:
im goin put my sim back in my captivate and tell them it some how got misplaced that way i just get a new sim and hopefully it does the trick. more advice would be appreciated
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No need, SIM cards are free. Just do what I stated above.
okay wish me luck
The other thing is that was not mentioned in the responses .. If you have the grandfathered Unlimited Data plan (Gold Card) .. you can still keep that when subscribing to a new LTE Data Plan.
I originally had the Unlimited from an old iPhone 3GS .. kept it through ALL my transitions to different phones.
Just call AT&T .. they will take care of it for you.
You must also have a lte sim
you need a new lte sim.

[Q] Nexus S i9023 willing to use ATT without Dataplan possible?

Hi guys been reading on forums about att automatically detecting smartphones but some say its ok if the phone is unbranded and some say any phone it might be ATT will be able to detect it...
My Question is
I have a Nexus s i9023 bought in india now i am in USA i already bought an ATT connection which i am using on a samsung [dumbphone](i activated the sim with the imei of that dumbphone) ..I would like to know if ATT will be able to detect my phone as smartphone if i switch that sim onto my Nexus S and activate a dataplan??
PS: i will disable data by all means...using CM7.1..will use Wifi only
HI,
When I was in US last year - I purchased multiple connections - initially from AT&T and then from T-Mo.
AT&T - My phone was a Nokia 5230 then and I threw the dumbphone into bin and used my 5230 without any issue. I was on a $50 plan with unlimited talk & text and 500MB data.
T-Mo : Same experience, this time I just bought a sim. Not even a dumb phone. You can walk into any of the T-Mo showrooms and get one. Or buy a dumb phone + plan and use it..
As a matter of fact, I have a friend in US who is using a Galaxy S with a T-Mo sim taken out of an dumb phone.
Thanks, J
hey thanks for the reply!!
Well i know abt the scenario of t-mobile... i would like to stick on to att... so i wanna know if att would be able to recognize my mobile as a smartphone and charge me a dataplan accordingly...
NP man.. Hit Thanks if i helped
I don't think so. Are you on a postpaid plan?
I just confirmed that you could get the Sim only connection from AT&T too. Prepaid connections are generally bundled with dataplans and they stop working once you cross the limit
Thanks man...
My ques is if i swap the sim does ATT automatically recognize nexus s as a smart phone ?? coz of it does it subscribes to the dataplan into my account...:|
yes they will detect your phone eventually.
if you are under contract they can enforce a data plan requirement
i was looong off contract when i switched to a crackberry
but had data blocked on my account
they never tried to force me onto a data add...
fwiw
we threw my old captivate on our sons dumbphone line, turned off data on the phone and AT&T has not said a thing. The account shows the smartphone on it, but no data plan is being forced.

how can i keep this phone without a plan

What's up guys. NOOB HERE. Cut me some slack. I currently own a iPhone 4s on att. I just got a good deal on a rooted Skyrocket.
This is the problem. I don't have a iPhone data plan. I just use the phone and wifi.
So I bought a sim card adapter, and I placed the sim card into the skyrocket.
Soon as I do that, att changes my phone plan,and adds a 4g Lte plan. Is there anyway around this?
[email protected] all day with wifi, @home with wifi. ...
I like the phone a lot. But I don't need a data plan.
Has anyone had to deal with this
att are not allowed to do that, you always have the choice, thats the purpose of having buying a phone full price
polish_pat said:
att are not allowed to do that, you always have the choice, thats the purpose of having buying a phone full price
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I know, they sent me some BS email, saying that smartphones require a data plan.
They are designed for surfing the internet and use a lot of data. You are required a data plan
BookinZ06 said:
What's up guys. NOOB HERE. Cut me some slack. I currently own a iPhone 4s on att. I just got a good deal on a rooted Skyrocket.
This is the problem. I don't have a iPhone data plan. I just use the phone and wifi.
So I bought a sim card adapter, and I placed the sim card into the skyrocket.
Soon as I do that, att changes my phone plan,and adds a 4g Lte plan. Is there anyway around this?
[email protected] all day with wifi, @home with wifi. ...
I like the phone a lot. But I don't need a data plan.
Has anyone had to deal with this
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Switch to H2O wireless. Port your number. And you are all set. You pay just as much as ATT without data but still get data (2GB) ...
k4ce said:
Switch to H2O wireless. Port your number. And you are all set. You pay just as much as ATT without data but still get data (2GB) ...
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Thanks for the advice. But I have a family plan with att for several years now with 3 other phones.
I thought maybe there was something I can download and install on the phone - so no data or information goes back to att
BookinZ06 said:
Thanks for the advice. But I have a family plan with att for several years now with 3 other phones.
I thought maybe there was something I can download and install on the phone - so no data or information goes back to att
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When they identify your phone as a smartphone, they don't do it through the data you send them, they don't through your imei number which is broadcast to att via your sim. So an app or rom won't do you any good. I can't speak for att, but tmobile has a similar policy with all smartphones requiring data but i have used a Nokia n8 on their network for 2 years without anyone tacking on a data plan.
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I'm on at&t prepaid $2/day without data - so far. I bought a data package before they changed their policy to monthly only for smartphones plus data package. I don't talk/text every day, so $2/day seemed worth trying. When they switched policies, I just did not buy a data package and as far as I know, I don't have at&t data access. But I have been able to use my phone for calls. Don't know what will happen when my $100 runs out, but that will probably be several months from now. Meantime I have a mobile hotspot I can use if out and about and think it necessary to check emails.
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You have to talk to a super visor. I have a the nexus without a data plan on att. Had to jump thru hoops though, rep said its done automatically through there computers so it had to be over ridded. And I had to call back
3 times because no one would do it for me.
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