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[Q] I Unlocked Bootloader Using Official HTC Tool - Now What?

Ok so I unlocked with the Official HTC Bootloader unlock tool. I have been trying to find the answer to my question of what else needs to be done before I can Rom the thing. I have been reading and everyone just seems to be arguing whether or not you need S-OFF in order to put a rom on the phone.
So please... Someone give me a straight answer. What else Do i need to do before I can load a custom rom on the phone. I went through tall of the official unlock stuff and its unlocked. Now what?!?!

First you need CWM. Then just flash the zip of your ROM
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

Thanks man for the response. Thats what i thought needed to happen but wasnt sure. Off to rom I go!

Still having trouble
Well i went to the dev section and tried to follow the steps to installing CWM and I'm getting an error. Im thinking I might need to do the HBOOT steps too. Im going to try that next. I just dont want to break my 3 day old phone.... ya know.

You can't install CWM or any other ROM if you enabled s-off with the HTC dev tool. You can only do it if you use revolutionary.

RonnyT24 said:
Well i went to the dev section and tried to follow the steps to installing CWM and I'm getting an error. Im thinking I might need to do the HBOOT steps too. Im going to try that next. I just dont want to break my 3 day old phone.... ya know.
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almostinsane said:
You can't install CWM or any other ROM if you enabled s-off with the HTC dev tool. You can only do it if you use revolutionary.
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With the Sensation this is no reason not to use revolutionary and get true S-OFF.
But if you want to continue down the HTC Unlocked path, you may want to visit the Evo 3G forum. There are some excellent threads and discussion on how to get into ClockworkMod using the HBOOT method. For some of the folks over in Evo 3G land, the latest HBOOT that was released for their HTC Unlock OTA has rendered Revolutionary useless because it disabled the root exploit, so they have no choice.
But if I were you, go with Revolutionary for permanent S-OFF/Nand unlock.

[Q] Revolutionary S-OFF vs HTC official unlock

Hi,
I've read several articles about the subject, but not sure I really understood the difference, since most of comments are vague like "S-OFF provides more flexibility", "Revolutionary installs custom recovery", "S-OFF is S-OFF" etc...
I have European Sensation with HBOOT 1.18.0, no operator SIM locking. What I did so far was applying the official unlock, and it was successful - now it's "Unlocked" but "S-ON". Then, also flashed the latest CWR 5.0.2.0 via fastboot and it also loads well.
Basically what I want to do now is wiping everything and trying several custom ROMs (CoreDroid, CM etc). Don't think I need anything deeper like custom bootloaders, unofficial Radio updates etc - but not sure which parts are residing in NAND...
So the question is whether S-OFF is needed for these purposes, or the official unlock is sufficient? If I do, could you please clarify what exactly won't work in S-ON mode?
Thanks a lot in advance!

Noob here - Same question.
Hello ptichik,
I've done the same as you and was wondering what the next step is as well. I just want superuser access. I was Googling for advice and came across your post. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Regards,
TechB74

Well, now htc knows you are using their unlock method, so now officially your warranty is gone......
Should have used the unofficial method where you could revert from to s-on having no warranty issues.......
It is all about reading what is going on [email protected]
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

Snah001 said:
Well, now htc knows you are using their unlock method, so now officially your warranty is gone......
Should have used the unofficial method where you could revert from to s-on having no warranty issues.......
It is all about reading what is going on [email protected]
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
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Thanks for that information, I was aware of what I was doing. I would greatly appreciate it if you could tell me what would the next step be to getting root access.

Snah001 said:
Well, now htc knows you are using their unlock method, so now officially your warranty is gone......
Should have used the unofficial method where you could revert from to s-on having no warranty issues.......
It is all about reading what is going on [email protected]
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
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Not 100% correct, a hardware fault isn't caused by you unlocking the bootloader so you'd be covered in that instance

What's next?
So now that i've unlocked the bootloade the official way. What should I do to get root?

TechB74 said:
So now that i've unlocked the bootloade the official way. What should I do to get root?
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You should start by learning how to use the search facilities of this forum to find your answer.
Flash a custom recovery using fastboot.
Using the custom recovery, install the latest version of SU.

Check out the stickies in the development section. Also, be prepared for a lot of attitude if u post a question thats already been answered, its easier to sort thru search results than flame.

All guides say to start with Revolution. Then install Clocwork Recovery Mod to back up the device. Then install the su binaries. Since I unlocked officially can I skip the Revolution part?

TechB74 said:
All guides say to start with Revolution. Then install Clocwork Recovery Mod to back up the device. Then install the su binaries. Since I unlocked officially can I skip the Revolution part?
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Yes, I'd say so

The difference with the official way is that you only unlock the bootloader. You don't get S-OFF so you can't make changes 'on the fly' with Android running, you'd need to do changes with the phone in HBOOT/fastboot mode.
Flashing custom ROMs works with either

Hello,
how did you unlock officially? I only found the revolutionary method. Thank you.

[Q] Is it possible to completly remove Revolutionary from my phone?

I've checked every possible tag in my mind about this and couldn't find one for Sensation.
Is it possible to revet back to the original state before the Revolutionary. Is it possible to completely uninstall the Revolutionary from my phone?
I'm not talking about the s-off -> s-on
I'm talking about returning the phones software to its original state.
Like it is never installed in the first place.
Thank you.

It's funny because last weekend I wanted to do exactly the same thing.
What I learnt was to go from S-OFF back to S-ON can be quite fiddly and tricky, abd if you mess it up rub the risk of bricking your phone.
In order to get the stock Rom, here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
Now it's just a case of finding which one you are, and your ril and radio.
Good luck

Thank you for your answer. But this is not what I want I can do this already but when I check the bootloader I see the pink "Locked" and it tells me that Revolutionary is still there.
I can go to S-On without any trouble that is not what I am asking.
What I am asking is to be able to get rid of every little bit of coding about the Revolutionary and return my phone to its original bootloader software.

If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

moshe22 said:
If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
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When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).

webmanya said:
When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
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flash stock hboot, should come with a ruu file, but you can always check if you extract rom.zip from the ruu.exe.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire

I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.

webmanya said:
I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
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i am saying that you probably have a modified hboot, because of the revolutionary sOFF, just like alpharev. you need to flash stock hboot to get everything back, hboot flashing is dangerous, if it goes wrong youll have a brick.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire

and stock hboots are found in ruus.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire

smokzye said:
and stock hboots are found in ruus.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire
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Thank you for your answer. I understand what do you mean. But I'm not sure if it will help because while flashing stock rom it also updates hboot.

Removing stock apps

Hi,
I was wondering how to remove the apps that come with the phone on vodafone as i recently changed to 3 or can i flash the 3 ruu to my phone? Thanks
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App

You could flash the Sense 3.0 ROM before the Vodafone upgrade
You may need to create a GoldCard to be able to flash it (if you have a different CID).
But in order to remove any stock apps, you have to be S-Off or HTCdev unlock your phone and either get root on your phone or install a custom pre-rooted ROM.

I want to get rid of the vodafone ones and install the 3 ones how do i do this?
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deadphone99 said:
I want to get rid of the vodafone ones and install the 3 ones how do i do this?
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You need to install another HTC RUU (e.g. the European) and you'll be fine.
Is your DS also SIM locked? If yes, you may need to unlock it afterwards.
Sent from somewhere around the globe using XDA app on my HTC Desire S

So can i install the 3 ruu on my phone? If i download it and install it and what is a goldcard?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App

See this post here on how to create a goldcard. The goldgard is needed in order to bypass the CID check of the official RUU (or to "fool" the CID check). And then you'll be able to run the RUU you want
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Thanks, so if i download the 3 ruu and flash it will it come up with the 3 apps etc?
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does anyone know what to do?

If i reflash rom will it wipe my root and will it wipe my pictures stored on sd card?
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deadphone99 said:
If i reflash rom will it wipe my root and will it wipe my pictures stored on sd card?
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deadphone..... Really?
Do you know why nobody's answering your questions? Because they indicate that you haven't done any reading whatsoever, and you're too eager to jump into stuff you haven't the slightest clue about. I suggest you read up about android in general, how stuff works on this device in particular, read about bricks that have been made off perfectly good phones because of reckless flashing and following the advice of other novices, who have no idea what they're suggesting... And when you think you're done reading, and know everything there is to know,..... read some more!
I only say this because you and your very helpful "guide" friend here are dillydallying with things like RUU, goldcard, CID hacks, etc.... which is more advanced stuff than you're equipped to handle currently, and this thread looks like a disaster waiting to happen.
Do you know what trouble an incompatible RUU can get you into, if you don't use it correctly? Just S-off your phone and flash a custom ROM man... there are so many stock, pre-rooted ROMs available!
Wait. Patience. Read. Tutorials. Guides. Those are what you should be looking for...........not RUU, Goldcard, CID, Misc_version. You're not there yet.

enigmaamit said:
I only say this because you and your very helpful "guide" friend here are dillydallying with things like RUU, goldcard, CID hacks, etc.... which is more advanced stuff than you're equipped to handle currently, and this thread looks like a disaster waiting to happen.
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What did I do wrong? I'm just trying to help that guy out, that's why I'm giving him mainly links to other threads in here.
Reading them is considered a must!

doghous said:
What did I do wrong? I'm just trying to help that guy out
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Nothing.
If you haven't figured it out even now...go ahead, make a Goldcard, and flash a 3 RUU on a Vodafone branded phone. See where that gets you. Do you think CID is the only thing an RUU checks when upgrading a ROM?
I'm sorry if I offended you... maybe you could try out what you just suggested to that guy on your own phone and educate me... I seem to have gotten my concepts wrong.

enigmaamit said:
Nothing.
If you haven't figured it out even now...go ahead, make a Goldcard, and flash a 3 RUU on a Vodafone branded phone. See where that gets you. Do you think CID is the only thing an RUU checks when upgrading a ROM?
I'm sorry if I offended you... maybe you could try out what you just suggested to that guy on your own phone and educate me... I seem to have gotten my concepts wrong.
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Have to agree with you there, this RUU thing is very dangerous if not handled properly. I've already had an issue flashing the wron RUU, which resulted in my bootloader saying *****Security Warning***** and also i became S-off! Had to take it to HTC, but fortunately they didn't make an issue, and replaced my phone. Have stayed away from RUUs ever since. From what i have read, just making a goldcard is not enough... you need to change Misc_version too, or something like that.

How do i s-off my phone then? Hboot 2.00.0002 and every guide i read says that i have to downgrade is there a way around this? I know you have just said read up but i cant find any guides that say how to s off with my hboot without downgrading
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deadphone99 said:
How do i s-off my phone then? Hboot 2.00.0002 and every guide i read says that i have to downgrade is there a way around this? I know you have just said read up but i cant find any guides that say how to s off with my hboot without downgrading
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Your post started with "How to remove stock apps"
You never provided any details about your phone... I didn't know you were still s-on!! Why didn't you mention that anywhere?

i didn't think it would be relevant at the time, now i know this next time i start a new topic i will include details about my phone. Anyway, the details for my phone are:
hboot 2.00.0002 s-off unlocked with htcdev so what can i do now?

I dont know anything about s-off because i dont have a htc but i do know when you are rooted you can use es file explorer or root explorer to delete apps.In es settings set system as read/write and then navigate to /system/app and delete any apk you want but dont get carried away because you can mess your phone up.Just delete the pre-installed apps you dont want.
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deadphone99 said:
If i reflash rom will it wipe my root and will it wipe my pictures stored on sd card?
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And just so you know flashing a custom rom doesn't erase sd card data.
Sent from my LG-P350 using XDA premium

OK, so let me ask a completely different question, forget about flashing different ruu's to my phone. how do I flash a custom stock ROM to my phone? details about hboot are above. I would like help directly as I don't want to screw this up and i am new to Android.

enigmaamit said:
Nothing.
If you haven't figured it out even now...go ahead, make a Goldcard, and flash a 3 RUU on a Vodafone branded phone. See where that gets you. Do you think CID is the only thing an RUU checks when upgrading a ROM?
I'm sorry if I offended you... maybe you could try out what you just suggested to that guy on your own phone and educate me... I seem to have gotten my concepts wrong.
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First of all I thought that this is a community where everyone in here is supposed to help each other and not to start flaming or using irony to say to someone that he may be wrong.
We weren't all born to be experts or geniuses like you may be so you could be just a little bit polite when saying to someone that "hey you are wrong because from my experience you need to do this or that".
I'm new in the Android platform since I've been an android user for only 1,5 year but I believe I managed to play a bit with it, since for the last 7 months I'm constantly "messing" with my old devices.
And no I didn't get offended, I just don't like to see great communities, as XDA, lose their good name / status.
No hard feelings though.
The S-OFF or HTCdev unlock, flashing a custom recovery and installing a custom ROM may be the "easiest" way to do it, but what if the user didn't want to have a custom rom?
As for me trying the suggested method on my DS, well that's what I did in November to my DS, before I decided to go with a custom rom in January.
My DS, even though I got it from a Greek mobile operator (COTE), it was branded (with CID: T-MOBN14) but without any 3rd party apps. Other friends in Greece with DS have a CID: HTC__001 or another that I don't remember it atm but it stands for HTC_ELL (Greece).
After reading the 6th post of this thread, I simply did what you can see on the posts #286 & 288 in this thread.
I don't know if I got lucky or not but my DS worked flawlessly until the 1st week of January when I decided to unlock it using HTCdev, flash 4ext recovery and install CoreDroid.
Based on what I did, I suggested to deadphone99 to go with the Goldcard solution.
Anyway, I'm sorry if I just got lucky and my suggestion may caused deadphone99 to get a dead phone
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OK, so let me ask a completely different question, forget about flashing different ruu's to my phone. how do I flash a custom stock ROM to my phone? details about hboot are above. I would like help directly as I don't want to screw this up and i am new to Android.
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Go to this thread and take it from the beginning, you will find answers to all your questions regarding the S-Off, custom recovery and flashing a custom rom

[Q] Root for apps, not new ROM

Hi folks,
I have read a number of guides and threads on the forum but I can't work out if any apply to what I want to do. I'm sure the info may be there but its not clear to me.
Basically I want root on my Desire S so that I can use aps like LUKS Manager, Orbot and so on. I don't want to install a new ROM as I'm happy with my what I have at the moment.
My hboot is 2.00.0002 and my Radio is 3822.10.08.04_M
Is what I want to do possible? If not and I have to install a new ROM is it possible to find one that matches what I have at the moment? How do I identitfy what that is?
Thanks in advance for all the help!

wageslave said:
Hi folks,
I have read a number of guides and threads on the forum but I can't work out if any apply to what I want to do. I'm sure the info may be there but its not clear to me.
Basically I want root on my Desire S so that I can use aps like LUKS Manager, Orbot and so on. I don't want to install a new ROM as I'm happy with my what I have at the moment.
My hboot is 2.00.0002 and my Radio is 3822.10.08.04_M
Is what I want to do possible? If not and I have to install a new ROM is it possible to find one that matches what I have at the moment? How do I identitfy what that is?
Thanks in advance for all the help!
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everything is possible. Just follow the guides in this forum how to root your device (I recommend not to use htcdev). You don't have to install a new ROM.
But my personal opinion is to use a custom ROM, since they often have much more possibilities for customizing and a lot modifications for speed and performance. Are you still using stock ROM with sense 3.0 ?
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Hi, thanks for the reply. I've only accepted the updates provded by my network so I guess thats the stock ROM?
Yep, its HTC Sense 3
I must be missing something basic because from all the guides i've read you have to install a new ROm to keep root?

wageslave said:
Hi, thanks for the reply. I've only accepted the updates provded by my network so I guess thats the stock ROM?
Yep, its HTC Sense 3
I must be missing something basic because from all the guides i've read you have to install a new ROm to keep root?
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Yes, it's stock right now.
At first you need to s-off your device (caution, you are about to void your warranty). You can do that using the revolutionary tool. Then you have to root, which can be done with superoneclick.
(edit: at this point you need to install a recovery like 4ext or cwm)
Root will not be undone when installing a
New ROM, neither do you need to install a new ROM. But I recommend to use a ROM with sense 3.5, it's much better.
You can find tutorials for everything I'm talking about right here in the forums.
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Ah, thats great, thanks. I didn't get that superoneclick could allow you to keep root.
Much appreciated.
I'll also look into the Sense 3.5. thanks again!

I forgot to mention: after rooting,
You need to install a custom recovery like 4ext or cwm. It's for backing up your system and flashing roms and updates and anything else you need
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Ok, so if I get s-off and then keep root by using superoneclick does that mean that I won't be able to receive updates through my network?

wageslave said:
Ok, so if I get s-off and then keep root by using superoneclick does that mean that I won't be able to receive updates through my network?
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If your s-off and rooted the installer will not install the update (never tried cause I dont use stock rom) - but there are alway newest rooted stock roms here on xda and you can update your system manually. Most of the time before your carrier sends you the "official" update.
But yes, you have to do it by yourself.

Steinhund said:
If your s-off and rooted the installer will not install the update (never tried cause I dont use stock rom) - but there are alway newest rooted stock roms here on xda and you can update your system manually. Most of the time before your carrier sends you the "official" update.
But yes, you have to do it by yourself.
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+1
But I think if you s-off and root and DO NOT install any other ROM you might still be able to download official updates for your stock ROM over the air
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Yes, you can use OTA (Over The Air update) ... but I think after that, you will loose your root
look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186401 FAQ's No. 5

ok, went to have a go at this but it looks like getting S-Off is quite complicated as well. I'm on HBOOT 2.00.0002.
Is there a shorter route to achieving root than:
downgrade
s-off
superoneclick (for root)
install custom recovery
If there isn't now is it likely to become available in the future or is the Desire S just difficult to do this with?

If You don't want to change rom, then stay s-on, unlock bootloader with htcdev and use superoneclick.

wageslave said:
Is there a shorter route to achieving root than:
downgrade
s-off
superoneclick (for root)
install custom recovery
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use the htcdev, but as mentioned its not recommended
its not that hard to do the stuff...

bronx said:
If You don't want to change rom, then stay s-on, unlock bootloader with htcdev and use superoneclick.
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+1
this will give you exaclty what you require
AND if you have S-OFF and apply an OTA you will stuck in a bootloop (white HTC splash screen)

bronx said:
If You don't want to change rom, then stay s-on, unlock bootloader with htcdev and use superoneclick.
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That's great, and exactly what i was looking for, thanks!
eyahl said:
use the htcdev, but as mentioned its not recommended
its not that hard to do the stuff...
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I get that the steps might be easy enough, but there are quite a lot of them and instructions can contain loops when put together (I.e. downgrading to get root may require root in some instructionals). I do appreciate your help and advice though. I may well switch ROMs, especially in the future (I can't see myself affording a new phone any time soon!)
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this will give you exaclty what you require
AND if you have S-OFF and apply an OTA you will stuck in a bootloop (white HTC splash screen)
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Thanks for the tip!

ok i am late but i think i can help.
first of all stop confusing the damn guy with different kinds of stuff. even i was like him before rooting my precious desire s. he will learn the advantages and disadvantages of revolutionary s-off as time passes by.
for now follow this guide as i did this (and trust me i had the same intentions as you do)
first get your adb and fastboot setup, this is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272595
then go to htcdev and unlock your phone. follow the process, its easier than you think.
after your done, download superoneclick and root your phone. if you dont know much about superoneclick then search around or google it and you will find your anwsers. one more thing, htcdev will reset your phone.
sorry if i am late if you have already rooteed your phone.

@up wth are U talkin' bout dude?
Case was closed two days ago, op was informed, understood, even thanked everyone. What are You trying to show in here?

darkrider24 said:
first of all stop confusing the damn guy with different kinds of stuff. even i was like him before rooting my precious desire s. he will learn the advantages and disadvantages of revolutionary s-off as time passes by.
for now follow this guide as i did this (and trust me i had the same intentions as you do)
first get your adb and fastboot setup, this is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272595
then go to htcdev and unlock your phone. follow the process, its easier than you think.
after your done, download superoneclick and root your phone. if you dont know much about superoneclick then search around or google it and you will find your anwsers. one more thing, htcdev will reset your phone.
sorry if i am late if you have already rooteed your phone.
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Who do you think you are? Batman?
You've basically danced around the same bush that bronx, eyahl and amidabuddha planted already and announced salvation to the world!
Ohhh.... am I too late to save the day?...is it too late for the poor non-rooted buggers?!! What'll the world do without me? The ship you're trying to board sailed away two days ago... party's over man... but it's fascinating to see the way you look at yourself! Knight in shining armor indeed!!
This is your first post on the forum, and this is how you behave, and talk to other members...? You reap what you sow man...
P.S. : Even the OP has more posts than you!!

Lmao
I guess I'm not the only one who is killing time watching these boards 50 times a day.

bronx said:
Lmao
I guess I'm not the only one who is killing time watching these boards 50 times a day.
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Nope, you're not the only one
Enigmaamit at his best
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