Hello android gurus/deities (too much?),
Just got my first smartphone, a Droid Charge. Great phone, especially for the price. The screen is freaking fantastic and of course Android is amazing as ever.
However, since first activating it, I seem to get random crashes. I can't replicate the problem, since it doesn't seem connected to anything visual. First time it happened when I decided to check out the camera, took a picture, and tried to view it. Other times have been the first time trying out netflix, first time sending a text. Seems to happen the first time I use some apps.
The crash basically consists of a short 5-10 second freeze followed by a reboot. Any ideas? Is this a hardware issue I need to have addressed or more likely a software issue that I just need to wait for updates to come along and fix it? Or is this a common occurence with Android and I just need to suck it up? lol
Edit: Has also happened 3 or 4 times while browsing the web, including this site...
charges hardware are pretty great for the price the software is a big issue for the charge whitch is why most of us myself included suggest rooting your device whitch literally a dummy could do using odin... i am running a stock based of a leak called infinity rom pretty amazing for a stockish rom for now so reboots are known at least for me but i really think the majority of the problem for this phone is the software gps loss signal going in and out as in data (this is a hit and miss) ..... hope this helped you iron things out...
Out of curiosity, what will rooting my device accomplish with respect to the reboots? Anything?
I rooted the device, then tried infinityROM but ran into so many problems I flashed back to the factory rom X(... Rooted again, but still get reboots, any ideas?
Where can I get a more solid kernel? From reading around it sounds like that "might" solve the reboots :\
RevTorA said:
Where can I get a more solid kernel? From reading around it sounds like that "might" solve the reboots :\
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/4847-guide-new-users-guide-everything-how-to-root-rom-kernels-radios-cwm/
Also depends what rom you are running.
If it keeps happening after you root and flash a new kernel (and maybe install a rom) upload a logcat to a filesharing place and hop on IRC to ask for help.
irc.andirc.net
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Thanks... once that site's back up I'll download a the kernel from there... The kernel on that page should work my Charge if it's currently the factory rom right?
Edit: Just to check, Imoseyon's kernel (listed here is the only available kernel aside from the factory kernel? I should try flashing this to see if it fixes my problem? Where can I get the factory kernel (just the kernel :\) if things go awry?
Edit2: Also found imnut's PBJT kernel here. I'm unaware of some of the terminologies (I've only messed with a couple Ubuntu/Fedora distros of linux), can this and any other kernel for the Charge work with Gingerbread (2.3.6)?
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Thanks... once that site's back up I'll download a the kernel from there... The kernel on that page should work my Charge if it's currently the factory rom right?
Edit: Just to check, Imoseyon's kernel (listed here is the only available kernel aside from the factory kernel? I should try flashing this to see if it fixes my problem? Where can I get the factory kernel (just the kernel :\) if things go awry?
Edit2: Also found imnut's PBJT kernel here. I'm unaware of some of the terminologies (I've only messed with a couple Ubuntu/Fedora distros of linux), can this and any other kernel for the Charge work with Gingerbread (2.3.6)?
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PBJ is a Froyo kernel. It will only work with Froyo.
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used to be able to flash any combo...even I-9000 roms(darky's...) with proper kernel and modem combos.
Had no problems ever!
Now, ANY combination kills my signal. Paragon; perception, pheonix, the list goes on and on.
The only ROM i can run is Cognition. If i flash to a different kernel/modem combo,(even while running cognition) I have problems.
Now atleast I am stuck with a good ROM, but I would love to fine-tune with a different kernel/radio and I have NO idea why my phone is acting this way. I am thinking maybe it's a SIM card thing(I pulled the SIM out one timebefore the phone was fully shut down...
other than that I cannot think of anything weird I have done.
In between flashes I have ODIN'd back to H2 and then Master Cleared.
Flash via CWM. Root with 1-click.
PLEASE give me some idea of what I have done?!?!!?
Or is it warranty time for the phone due to 'GPS' issues..
Thanks
boardsportsrule said:
used to be able to flash any combo...even I-9000 roms(darky's...) with proper kernel and modem combos.
Had no problems ever!
Now, ANY combination kills my signal. Paragon; perception, pheonix, the list goes on and on.
The only ROM i can run is Cognition. If i flash to a different kernel/modem combo,(even while running cognition) I have problems.
Now atleast I am stuck with a good ROM, but I would love to fine-tune with a different kernel/radio and I have NO idea why my phone is acting this way. I am thinking maybe it's a SIM card thing(I pulled the SIM out one timebefore the phone was fully shut down...
other than that I cannot think of anything weird I have done.
In between flashes I have ODIN'd back to H2 and then Master Cleared.
Flash via CWM. Root with 1-click.
PLEASE give me some idea of what I have done?!?!!?
Or is it warranty time for the phone due to 'GPS' issues..
Thanks
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Find the modem cognition uses that gives you the least problems. Are you flashing to stock before each ROM?
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Yep, back to stock & master cleared between(only once problems arised..back in the day I could just flash to what I wanted and never really had a problem. Went back to stock once when the new flash responded strangely.)
Looking at cognition, I get minimal information, I THINK it's stock radio/kernel..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912657
Any one???
I would..check your usb plug/cable/port first..make sure it isn't bad and effecting your data transfer..Make sure your not plugged into a external port and plug into PC directly..
Re down load your roms and kernels again..keep them separate from what you have already used..
Flash back to stock..master clear delete all data on your internal and your data
Re-install everything over again..cause it sounds like something got corrupted along the way
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Mac11700 said:
it sounds like something got corrupted along the way
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Thats how I am leaning, but i dont think it's with the roms/kernels/radios i have downloaded...since I have tried so many damn copies that wouldn't make sense. also tried downloading directly to phone, eliminating the "3rd party" computer, and have used drop box in the past...
I have flashed to stock and master cleared, i could do it again, but i am tempted to go back to stock and try to exchange it for a new one due to either random shut-offs or GPS(both of which mine are effected by..) but i would like to avoid this hassle...
If something did get corrupted, any idea how I'd solve that? I am at a loss as to what could have gotten corrupted that a odin'd stock + master clear wouldn't solve...?
boardsportsrule said:
If something did get corrupted, any idea how I'd solve that? I am at a loss as to what could have gotten corrupted that a odin'd stock + master clear wouldn't solve...?
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It's possible that your phone has a hardware issue making it more finicky. Try stock for a bit and see if the problems go away. Maybe try Andromeda 1.0 and see how the KP1 modem works (or just flash KP1 on some other ROM).
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It's possible that your phone has a hardware issue making it more finicky. Try stock for a bit and see if the problems go away. Maybe try Andromeda 1.0 and see how the KP1 modem works (or just flash KP1 on some other ROM).
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hopped back to Stock... Gonna run things here, see which problems arise, and go from there. Can you flash a different kernel onto the stock ROM? I'd assume you need a 2.1 kernel, and i don't think many are retrofitted to 2.1, but the KP1 modem is a good idea, ill let things pan out on stock and see what happens if/when i flash kp1 modem.
funny fact: fire fly made problems for me... it's based on rogers 2.2, same as cognition. that seemed odd to me.
I Know this should be in the Developer section, but I don't have enough posts. (Since you have to have at least 10 to do so...)
BUT, I installed a kernel from Blades which is the 1.6ghz with the latest version of CWM. The problem is that whenever I try to boot up the device it just stays on the first startup screen, and it also makes a weird popping noise from the speakers about every 10 seconds. I did wipe Dalvik Cache and I also made a back up before installing the new kernel. I've tried restoring but it does the same thing every time. Before installing the kernel I was running PRIMEORDIAL! v3.1...
Any help would be greatly appreciated....
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Hi Mate, You are not the only one. Unfortuantely 3.0.1 kernels don't work too well with 3.1 roms as you have discovered.
Not to worry though as this is an easy fix.
Simply flash the 3.1 stock kernel and you're up and running again. You can get it from here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14283676&postcount=94
Wow, I didn't even realize that kernel was only for 3.0.1 lol. THANK YOU! Flashed it and it started right up! C:
You may now have wifi problems, since the kernel update will have installed a different module to the one you need, if this is the case just reflash whatever rom you are using.
Okay cool, I'm on wifi now and it seems to be working fine. So thanks again! :]
so my sgs4g was rooted and got on gb with the gb starter pack thread, after which i jumped around between a few roms and am currently running octaneGB.
however, it has always had stability problems, and i can't figure out why. possibly because i messed up bootloaders? i'm pretty sure it can't be the fault of the roms i flashed.
from here, all I want is a stable phone.
can i wipe the phone as it is and then use the oneclick heimdall SMS kj6? would this put me on rooted GB with CWM and good bootloaders? could i simply cwm flash a rom like valhalla after that?
any advice would be appreciated, thanks!
nvertigo said:
so my sgs4g was rooted and got on gb with the gb starter pack thread, after which i jumped around between a few roms and am currently running octaneGB.
however, it has always had stability problems, and i can't figure out why. possibly because i messed up bootloaders? i'm pretty sure it can't be the fault of the roms i flashed.
from here, all I want is a stable phone.
can i wipe the phone as it is and then use the oneclick heimdall SMS kj6? would this put me on rooted GB with CWM and good bootloaders? could i simply cwm flash a rom like valhalla after that?
any advice would be appreciated, thanks!
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Yes, you can use the one-click to put KJ6 on there then flash a different ROM via CWM.
Personally I've had the best experience with Valhalla ROMs. Last night I just flashed RAVERX3X latest Valhalla Black build. Its low profile so it's quick and responsive, and even better, not a single instability issue.
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thanks for the advice guys!
I did the first flash step, which worked successfully and rebooted my phone. then i tried to flash the bootloaders that came with it, but uploading PIT 1/10 failed, and it froze trying to end session. i pulled the battery and the phone seemed bricked, but i connected the cable and oneclick said it was connected (no download mode screen, no lights at all). so i did the initial one-click flash and let it reboot again, then flashed valhalla black.
nothing SEEMS to be wrong, but i'm a little scared. can anyone weigh in on what happened?
You're ok. I can't explain what happened but people have reported similar issues, nothing on the screen but it can be seen in ODIN, and were able to recover (as you did) just fine.
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This section of XDA is small, but good in terms of quality.
I just flashed Raver's Cyanogenmod/Valhalla hybrid and it is smooth and stable.
One-Click...
At the beginning of the week, I still had Froyo on my device.
I used Bryan's one-click (SMS-KJ6-beta2d_Stock-Rom_with_Bootloaders-One-Click.jar)...
(I had a scare, too... which involved the so-called "Rainbow screen" -- but FB suggested I run the one-click, again and also to do the Bootloaders -- and everything turned out ok).
But, I needed to get CWM 5 (and, that particular one-click had CWM 3.0.2.8x)
So, I flashed an update of Bryan's kernel (sms-T959V-KJ6-v0.1.1-rc1-unsigned-update.zip)
And, because I was feeling overjoyed at all the goodness that I'd seen so far, I flashed RaverX3X's rc3.zip (from Team Acid's Source Forge site)...
And, life is really, really, really... good.
yep
+1 Valhalla black edition! Installed today and love love love.
ok... my phone is now crashing and rebooting all over the place after flashing valhalla black. it seemed fine for the first hour. should i try the one-click again? or did i not wait 10 minutes after flashing the rom, maybe?
anyone know what could be the problem?
thanks in advance!
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ok... my phone is now crashing and rebooting all over the place after flashing valhalla black. it seemed fine for the first hour. should i try the one-click again? or did i not wait 10 minutes after flashing the rom, maybe?
anyone know what could be the problem?
thanks in advance!
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Not sure about the crashing but I experienced reboots because of the kernel Valhalla Black uses. There are fixes out there for that part of the problem but what you should really is perform a factory data reset, do the one to get a ROM with CWM on it, then use CWM to install Valhalla Black per the instructions on the page for it. I've a feeling you'll be much more stable after that.
As for the 10 minutes, that's basically to allow your phone to rebuild the Davlik cache (cache with optimizations for your apps). Definitely let it sit while it does that just to be safe.
thanks yet again. will try this asap!
can i assume that my bootloaders are correct after the weird issues from the last page? you mentioned that it happened to several people, but it still bothers me that technically it never got past 1/10 uploading PIT file :x
also, regarding the problems with the kernel, can anyone point me to a kernel that works with valhalla final and is known to be fully stable? i want to try to do everything to get the phone usable.
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thanks yet again. will try this asap!
can i assume that my bootloaders are correct after the weird issues from the last page? you mentioned that it happened to several people, but it still bothers me that technically it never got past 1/10 uploading PIT file :x
also, regarding the problems with the kernel, can anyone point me to a kernel that works with valhalla final and is known to be fully stable? i want to try to do everything to get the phone usable.
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If it was fully booting and you weren't getting the "rainbow" screen, then your boot loaders are fine. If in doubt, go check out bhundven's one-clicks, and run one of them - twice. The first time it doesn't let you check the boot loader box but the 2nd time it does.
Valhalla Final comes with bundven's beta 2c kernel. I believe people are running that without issue. Keep in mind Valhalla Final and Valhalla Black are two different ROMs with two different kernels.
I did a one-click back to stock (factory reset, cache wipes, etc.) & am running bhundven's latest beta kernel with no problems (thus far).
Alrighty, this is one of the weirdest things I've had happen with a phone since I started doing this on the original Droid. Lately I've been using Jellybeans Rom, its been great and my longest running ROM so far, but like a lot of people here I have to try out new stuff quite often just to try it. Well anymore I cant seem to try much else, I wanted to run the newest Liquid Smooth 2.3 ROM that just hit and it wont work at all really, before I redid the whole phone every time I flashed LS 2.3 I couldnt even hit the start button when the ROM first installed, when I did it wouldnt do anything and then the screen would go black and I would have to hard reset or battery pull. Next boot up seemed to go fine, got my gmail up and running and titanium downloaded and then after that, hitting settings options would lock up the phone in just about any app I had, never even got around to trying to restore anything with titanium.
Re-flashed LS 2.3 three or four times and nothing changed, tried fixing permissions, fully wiping, etc. didnt matter. So naturally I figured it was simply the ROM on my phone (mind you LS 2.2 worked fine before) so I went and decided I would try out Avatar ROM, CM based with MIUI themes, this ROM did pretty much the same thing. No idea why...
Next I figured something maybe was wrong with my phone so I went back to the drawing board and started from factory with ODIN, I redid my ROM with stock/root, unlocked the boot loader again and redid custom recovery and all the same thing with LS 2.3 happened all over again, Stock ROM worked great for the bit of time I used it before I tried to reflash LS 2.3 again, Now I'm back running Jellybeans v.15 and it runs perfectly fine as well.
I really have no idea what the problem is, both of those ROMs I've tried are CM based original development, so I'm wondering if its something in there thats causing an issue over the TW ROMs I've used. I've used other TW ROMs with decent success, but I've had some issues with those too that you wouldnt think should happen but it wasnt anything worth noting, just like Jellybeans the best, but even some of those would give me slow down problems and occasional lock ups when Jellybeans doesnt.
Anyone have any clue as to what could be causing this? I used to be able to run non TW roms just fine and its only been in the past month that this has started happening that I've noticed, I've had the phone since January and have been flashing away this whole time and now I cant seem to try out any more ROMs without having major issues......ugh
Your situation is a very random situation but I have something similar happened to me involving TW ROMs in that some of them froze on me. I had to flash the stock ROM.
Bump, anyone having any kind of similar problems?
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Vidfreek said:
Bump, anyone having any kind of similar problems?
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If you've only had these issues in the last month, it could be attributed to the Linux 3.4 kernel that every AOSP rom has moved to. I wouldn't let that stop you though. Are you downloading these rom zips over WiFi or mobile data? Were your downloads taking awhile as well? I know either GOO or AFH was having server issues recently which may have coincided with your downloads. I'd suggest using WiFi if you aren't already and trying again?
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Yeah its only been fairly recent and all roms I've tried have been updated since the very end of april, if my phone has major problems with that linux kernal am I going to be able to flash anything again? Everything I downloaded was over wifi but I can try all the downloads again but I'm thinking that won't fix anything, just weird stuff
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So after doing a wipe to my phone (was becoming slow) my phone randomly restarts itself for no reason as if it just crashes. I am running the latest version of the beanstalk rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091900 I don't have the greatest understanding of flashing, roms, blah blah blah, but managed to get kit kat working for the last year or so, I don't understand why this is happening now, did I choose a bad rom or something? Everything else on the phone works but obviously constant restarts get to be very annoying.
Any help would be appreciated,
thank you!
Infused4life said:
So after doing a wipe to my phone (was becoming slow) my phone randomly restarts itself for no reason as if it just crashes. I am running the latest version of the beanstalk rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091900 I don't have the greatest understanding of flashing, roms, blah blah blah, but managed to get kit kat working for the last year or so, I don't understand why this is happening now, did I choose a bad rom or something? Everything else on the phone works but obviously constant restarts get to be very annoying.
Any help would be appreciated,
thank you!
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Try leaving it turned on in recovery mode (CWM). If it still reboots, then you have a hardware issue. If it stays stable, I would blame the ROM and try a different version or a different distro.
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joel.maxuel said:
Try leaving it turned on in recovery mode (CWM). If it still reboots, then you have a hardware issue. If it stays stable, I would blame the ROM and try a different version or a different distro.
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Thanks for the reply,
I don't think it is a hardware issue as it never did this when I had Jelly Bean or even the last time I had Kit Kat, never know though! Also, I will try to leave it in recovery and see if it does it but a few questions:
-What is "distro" (does it has to do with the OS of the phone?)
-Is there some ROM you could recommend to me for this phone that is stable.. When I install the beanstalk ROM there are like 10 to choose from, I'm guessing they are all older/newer versions!?
-Finally something I was wondering for the longest time but wasn't sure of is can I go back to say, Jelly Bean? Or is it "irreversible"?
Thanks again, glad there's people out there who can help the noobs like me!
Infused4life said:
Thanks for the reply,
I don't think it is a hardware issue as it never did this when I had Jelly Bean or even the last time I had Kit Kat, never know though! Also, I will try to leave it in recovery and see if it does it but a few questions:
-What is "distro" (does it has to do with the OS of the phone?)
-Is there some ROM you could recommend to me for this phone that is stable.. When I install the beanstalk ROM there are like 10 to choose from, I'm guessing they are all older/newer versions!?
-Finally something I was wondering for the longest time but wasn't sure of is can I go back to say, Jelly Bean? Or is it "irreversible"?
Thanks again, glad there's people out there who can help the noobs like me!
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Methinks it is the specific ROM. I call the different types of OM out there distributions (or "distros" - in light of what is commonly used in the Linux world), but there may be a better term. It could be the version of Beanstalk you are using, it could be any version of BeanStalk with your phone. Hard to say.
In light of above, I would try CarbonROM. I tried it out briefly, and haven;t had a problem with it (and have heard no issues form the guy I sold the phone to with it installed).
But if you want to go back to JellyBean, there is still a version of 4.2 kicking around (CM 10.1) in the development threads. You can downgrade, at worst you may have to ODIN back to stock. But try to flash in CWM first. I was quite satisfied with that version. My biggest gripe is that the mobile data quick setting didn't work fully (but the long way around did). There is CM 10.2 as well, but I could never get that one installed on my phone (installer would break). Between the two, I would try 10.1 (and if you cannot find a copy, I can dropbox it to you).
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joel.maxuel said:
Methinks it is the specific ROM. I call the different types of OM out there distributions (or "distros" - in light of what is commonly used in the Linux world), but there may be a better term. It could be the version of Beanstalk you are using, it could be any version of BeanStalk with your phone. Hard to say.
In light of above, I would try CarbonROM. I tried it out briefly, and haven;t had a problem with it (and have heard no issues form the guy I sold the phone to with it installed).
But if you want to go back to JellyBean, there is still a version of 4.2 kicking around (CM 10.1) in the development threads. You can downgrade, at worst you may have to ODIN back to stock. But try to flash in CWM first. I was quite satisfied with that version. My biggest gripe is that the mobile data quick setting didn't work fully (but the long way around did). There is CM 10.2 as well, but I could never get that one installed on my phone (installer would break). Between the two, I would try 10.1 (and if you cannot find a copy, I can dropbox it to you).
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YES!
So, after I left the phone in CWM for 25 minutes or so and it being fine I decided to get Carbon as I seen in your "signature" that you had that ROM on your Infuse, it has been good for 2 hours+, looking good! I guess it was the Beanstalk ROM after all.
Thanks for the downgrading information as well, wasn't sure if you could downgrade or what would happen!
Finally, what is flashing? (I could google it but since your here, could you give me a noob friendly definition!?)
Thanks for all your help
Infused4life said:
YES!
So, after I left the phone in CWM for 25 minutes or so and it being fine I decided to get Carbon as I seen in your "signature" that you had that ROM on your Infuse, it has been good for 2 hours+, looking good! I guess it was the Beanstalk ROM after all.
Thanks for the downgrading information as well, wasn't sure if you could downgrade or what would happen!
Finally, what is flashing? (I could google it but since your here, could you give me a noob friendly definition!?)
Thanks for all your help
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Went to reply about the camera issue and notice it was no longer in the post. Glad you got it sorted.
So flashing, as I understand it, is just another term for installing something via recovery. Not sure of the origin, maybe have something to do with installing to flash memory.
joel.maxuel said:
Went to reply about the camera issue and notice it was no longer in the post. Glad you got it sorted.
So flashing, as I understand it, is just another term for installing something via recovery. Not sure of the origin, maybe have something to do with installing to flash memory.
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Ah ok, so it's essentially as I thought it was. I thought I was doing something wrong in terms of "flashing" but guess not! Sounds like it should just be called "Installing custom ROM".. !
Yeah, in terms of the camera thing, I'm an idiot and had USB storage turned on *facepalm*, So it wouldn't let me open the camera app!
Infused4life said:
Ah ok, so it's essentially as I thought it was. I thought I was doing something wrong in terms of "flashing" but guess not! Sounds like it should just be called "Installing custom ROM".. !
Yeah, in terms of the camera thing, I'm an idiot and had USB storage turned on *facepalm*, So it wouldn't let me open the camera app!
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I am not sure if you are still facing the same issue but if you are facing reboots, then considering doing a fresh install after cleaning your internal storage as well since the remnants of the apps from previous installs have caused me problems. Ever since I started doing a fresh install (Factory reset, wiping the cache, wiping the dalvik cache and even the cache partition along with the wiping of the internal storage), there have been no reboot issues.