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RUU Question

I have a T-MO branded Sensation with S-Off. I'd like to take advantage of the updates that the latest ruu's offer. Can I just go ahead and flash the latest tmous ruu? Will this result in s-off? Thanks.

Since you have a post count of 476 as of me typing this I don't feel bad.
Why the hell would you put something like this, ESPECIALLY WITH THE WORD QUESTION IN THE TITLE, here in the general forum? You've been around. You know better. Also, a simple search would answer your question. Things like this are the reason this forum is clogged. Mods please close.
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You have s-off and wondering if applying ruu.. will give you s-off?
ps; that makes no sense

KrisHilbun said:
You have s-off and wondering if applying ruu.. will give you s-off?
ps; that makes no sense
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Sorry, meant s-on

Jimmah555 said:
Since you have a post count of 476 as of me typing this I don't feel bad.
Why the hell would you put something like this, ESPECIALLY WITH THE WORD QUESTION IN THE TITLE, here in the general forum? You've been around. You know better. Also, a simple search would answer your question. Things like this are the reason this forum is clogged. Mods please close.
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Thanks. Perhaps you can tell me where I can post a question then. I remember a time when you could post a general question in the general forum.

There is a whole other forum titled "Q&A." Questions go there, but always remember to search first. This same question has been answered at least two times that I remember.
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Nope, flashing it won't put your phone to s-on. You have to do that manually. There's a how to in the main sticky in the dev forum. Can't link at the moment as I'm mobile.

S-Off to S-On

I am completely new, I have an s-off ds, I want to turn s-on back on so I can update my phone to 2.3.5 any ideas how to, sorry if I seem dumb

I'm not sure why you would want to get S-ON just to have an official upgrade to 2.3.5 when custom ROMs already have 2.3.7, but I believe what you're looking for is in this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187231
Any other questions you might have can be answered by searching through the Desire S Android Development Forums
You can always browse through this Index for anything else worth mentioning. Hope this helps.

I would agree with previous post. Seen all the problems with official update? Much better off sticking with s-off and one of proxusers sense 3.0 ports. Or bindroid. Or coredroid. Any problems will be patched much faster than HTC.
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I dont understand a word of what any of you said. I want it back to when I bought it. I dont understand any of this.

The fact is, there isn't a simple "one click and you're done" way to do this. So if you really want to do this, you're going to have to learn how to. The thread i linked is a good start, and the index thread in the development forum is also a great place to find guides on doing just about anything you might need. If all else fails, you could try and find someone in your area who's willing to do this for you, but I wouldn't depend on it.

Thanks for all the help. I took it back to store claiming software fault. They replaced my phone.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

Smal problem here. I got a Desire S. I made it S-off can that be the problem. How to restore this?

Dude. Read other posts. Im new at this.
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Rooting a sensation 4 G and installing 4 ext touch recovery

I would greatly appreciate any information on this topic.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA

There are some really great guides to rooting here if you look in search. You will need to know your h boot version in order to follow that specific guide. You can download 4ext recovery here from a link also search, or you can even download it from the playstore. That's what I did, I think its 3.00 but worth it! So find your hboot then you can search for the proper guide. Hope this helps from my HTC Sensation 4G

Also you need to s-off first! Use revolutionary, not htcdev....if it works for you.

There are way too many guides here, you could have tried to search!
This guide will answer all your questions.
If you find it difficult, try this, it will do the same thing, except you won't need to do anything..

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA

This is obvious trolling.
He is asking how to root on May 26th, but he has been asking about rom problems for 10 other roms since about May 20th.
So he has been rooted for a while. This thread is just pointless.
Sent from a rebel ship by storing the message in an R2 unit. (Help me, XDA. You're my only hope)

Skipjacks said:
This is obvious trolling.
He is asking how to root on May 26th, but he has been asking about rom problems for 10 other roms since about May 20th.
So he has been rooted for a while. This thread is just pointless.
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If this is the case then can a mod please ban him because it's getting ridiculous.

k0zmic said:
If this is the case then can a mod please ban him because it's getting ridiculous.
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I reported him. Let's hope the mod has a word with him.

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Use search....

Need advice before rooting a new Desire S :D

Hi all,
I am new to android and just* want to root my phone as many apps demand your phone to be rooted such as full backup apps, firewall apps and other similar apps.
I am still on HTC's stock 2.3.3 with HTC sense v.2.1 (though i have downloaded the OTA update for 2.3.5 but kinda confused over negative reviews of 2.3.5 update..so I am holding it here right now)
But when I saw a guide here though quite helpful but I was a bit confused as what I read on other articles on XDA + on other blogs that a thing called HBOOT is a bit tricky to tackle while following a particular rooting method; as there are many ways to root like using revolutionary..installing custom bootloaders etc (is it really neccessary? I just want to root my phone and don't plan to install any custom ROMs in near future.)
I am confused
- as to should I really let my warranty go off the table as its just a month old phone sacrificing it for just a few apps I want to use.
- Please tell me that, will I be able to search for and install the officially released OTA updates such as the 2.3.5 / ICS after I have done S-OFF + Rooted my phone??
If answer to both of the questions above is a "YES"
then plz tell me step by step of how to S-OFF and ROOT my phone (I found multiple ways to Root the phone and now I am confused and not really confident on which way/approach to follow)
Any advice would be appreciated.
Regards,
Sky770

If you want to root, do not download the OTA and install!!
You are in a great position, and you can easily root your hboot with the alpharevx.
Do it, you won't regret it.
Also, we can't give you step by step guides... Follow the index links.
Also, you can't install updates after rooted. But you won't need to. We will have the official ICS prerooted before.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

Revolutionary now, not AlphaRevX
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olyloh6696 said:
If you want to root, do not download the OTA and install!!
You are in a great position, and you can easily root your hboot with the alpharevx.
Do it, you won't regret it.
Also, we can't give you step by step guides... Follow the index links.
Also, you can't install updates after rooted. But you won't need to. We will have the official ICS prerooted before.
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well..
dan-fish said:
Revolutionary now, not AlphaRevX
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Thx for both of you replying here..
LOL accidentally pressed "thanks" for dan-fish so had to do the same for olyloh6696 (I mean should express gratitude towards both of you..but its actually better if I had done it at the end/mark the thread as "solved" )
Looks like we have a standoff here.. which one guys? the alpharevX or the revolutionary?

sky770 said:
well..
Thx for both of you replying here..
LOL accidentally pressed "thanks" for dan-fish so had to do the same for olyloh6696 (I mean should express gratitude towards both of you..but its actually better if I had done it at the end/mark the thread as "solved" )
Looks like we have a standoff here.. which one guys? the alpharevX or the revolutionary?
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Both are the same alpharevX is the old name for revolutionary
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!

Revolutionary, alpharevx was before

Yeah oops my bad! Shows how far behind I am with the rooting buisness! I can't even remember how I rooted mine exactly now!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

suku_patel_22 said:
Both are the same alpharevX is the old name for revolutionary
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
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I was wishing for you only to land here..voila
eyahl said:
Revolutionary, alpharevx was before
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Thx for the update.. yep just read it on revolutionary.io's home page
olyloh6696 said:
Yeah oops my bad! Shows how far behind I am with the rooting buisness! I can't even remember how I rooted mine exactly now!
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:| looks like am here for that now
ok guys here is my HBOOT info:
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saga pvt ship s-on RL
hboot-0.98.0002
radio-3805.06.02.03_M
eMMC-boot
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So, should I be worried about the HBOOT ver. number? the 0.98 ? :|

You should be less worried that the hboot is 0.98....
No need of downgrading,
It's simple, just do revolutionary....
And you will have S-off
And yes, don't download the OTA
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!

There's a video in the index thread on How to root and S Off the HTC desire S ... Follow the instructions & u r good to go!!!

suku_patel_22 said:
You should be less worried that the hboot is 0.98....
No need of downgrading,
It's simple, just do revolutionary....
And you will have S-off
And yes, don't download the OTA
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
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ok.. I really have no idea about what happens and what not happens if i do downgrade my HBOOT but I see many people here on XDA done that (downgraded their HBOOT) Can you shed some light on this topic?
Also, I would definitely want to try official 2.3.5 and/or the official ICS release (whenever they release one; around Q3/Q4 2012? ) so is there any* way to install these if I do revolutionary? I would def. like to find these updates via OTA (will my phone detect these from official HTC servers?)
PS: I am trying to stay as long as with official ROM as of now :| so no near future plans to flash my baby with a custom one
Just need the root
just a few more noob questions to follow
Thanks for reading and replying

You will not thank me for this, but for your sake I suggest reading instead of writing. All of the info you're asking for is written in the guides, and people that write the guides don't have enough patience to answer those that don't bother reading and ask the same questions over and over. Writing questions instead of reading FAQs and guides leaves you with less probability of having a good answer or having an answer at all, and clutters the already cluttered forum.

sky770 said:
ok.. I really have no idea about what happens and what not happens if i do downgrade my HBOOT but I see many people here on XDA done that (downgraded their HBOOT) Can you shed some light on this topic?
Also, I would definIitely want to try official 2.3.5 and/or the official ICS release (whenever they release one; around Q3/Q4 2012? ) so is there any* way to install these if I do revolutionary? I would def. like to find these updates via OTA (will my phone detect these from official HTC servers?)
PS: I am trying to stay as long as with official ROM as of now :| so no near future plans to flash my baby with a custom one
Just need the root
just a few more noob questions to follow
Thanks for reading and replying
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As you are on the old hboot, there is no need of downgrading, that's why I said, do not install the upgrade.
We have a ROM, by Proxuser, which is the rooted version of the OTA with no modifications and will work out pretty well.
Once rooted you will not be able to receive any OTA upgraded, but IMHO, hardly matters, you will get the same and better versions out here.
We already have the leak of ICS build for desire S, and it's pretty fast, forget q3
Also we have very functional sense 4 lite, which is faster than sense 3.6
So again, do the revolutionary, it's quite simple actually for you, and flash the saga 3D,, for a stock experience
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!

sky770 said:
ok.. I really have no idea about what happens and what not happens if i do downgrade my HBOOT but I see many people here on XDA done that (downgraded their HBOOT) Can you shed some light on this topic?
Also, I would definitely want to try official 2.3.5 and/or the official ICS release (whenever they release one; around Q3/Q4 2012? ) so is there any* way to install these if I do revolutionary? I would def. like to find these updates via OTA (will my phone detect these from official HTC servers?)
PS: I am trying to stay as long as with official ROM as of now :| so no near future plans to flash my baby with a custom one
Just need the root
just a few more noob questions to follow
Thanks for reading and replying
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Well the beauty of rooting is trying out custom ROMs... I don't think you should root if you don't intend too. You seriously won't regret it. Just take a NAND backup, you can always restore to it if you don't like the custom ROMs.
And as I have said before...
No, you can't get OTAs once rooted, but you can still install these maually, and you will be able to do it way before the update actually hits your phone 'officially'.
As we have said too, you are in a good position. No need to downgrade at all. Your hboot version is the right one.

Jack_R1 said:
You will not thank me for this, but for your sake I suggest reading instead of writing. All of the info you're asking for is written in the guides, and....
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:|
well..thats what forums are for..uhmmm? to ask people about your doubts and things you don't understand simply. period. anyways..thx for motivating me to through 100+ threads
suku_patel_22 said:
We already have the leak of ICS build for desire S, and it's pretty fast, forget q3
Also we have very functional sense 4 lite, which is faster than sense 3.6.....
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thx bro I have not upgraded my 2.3.3 to 2.3.5 so np
well can you name me the ROM which is the ICS build for htc desire S + has the sense 4 lite (faster than sense 3.6? :O )
olyloh6696 said:
Well the beauty of rooting is trying out custom ROMs... I don't think you should root if you don't intend too.....
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Right.. When I acually was craving for a droid I was crazy as hell to root n try out new ROMs but... when I got an HTC I was simply hands down n thought not to touch this beauty. HTC Desire S is quite a package at this cheap price + hardware config.
PS: just a last ques. for now: which OS is the recommended one? I do have linux mint 10 32 bit edition installed on my machine; its a bit old.. rarely updated the packages n all AND I have windows 7 ultimate 64 bit edition ..so which one would you recommend me to root with?
Thanks a lot guys.
I'll get on it.. and will tell you how things go
Regards,
sky770

Well i felt the same too. It's great out if the box, but you can achieve so much more when rooted.
Do it. Also, Windows 7 is easier.
ROMs? Have you checked the dev forum yet?
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sky770 said:
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well..thats what forums are for..uhmmm? to ask people about your doubts and things you don't understand simply. period. anyways..thx for motivating me to through 100+ threads
thx bro I have not upgraded my 2.3.3 to 2.3.5 so np
well can you name me the ROM which is the ICS build for htc desire S + has the sense 4 lite (faster than sense 3.6? :O )
Right.. When I acually was craving for a droid I was crazy as hell to root n try out new ROMs but... when I got an HTC I was simply hands down n thought not to touch this beauty. HTC Desire S is quite a package at this cheap price + hardware config.
PS: just a last ques. for now: which OS is the recommended one? I do have linux mint 10 32 bit edition installed on my machine; its a bit old.. rarely updated the packages n all AND I have windows 7 ultimate 64 bit edition ..so which one would you recommend me to root with?
Thanks a lot guys.
I'll get on it.. and will tell you how things go
Regards,
sky770
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First thing, you dont need to read 100+ threads, the index is in my signature with all sorts of information
STOCK ICS Sense 3.6: Virtuous Saga
Sense 4.0A(One V port): Fallout
And yes, any OS that you are comfortable with should be fine.. I did it on Win 7

sky770 said:
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well..thats what forums are for..uhmmm? to ask people about your doubts and things you don't understand simply. period. anyways..thx for motivating me to through 100+ threads
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No, that's not what forums are for. You should probably look at the name of the forum and think, what does "-developers" part stand for, and why isn't it called "XDA-users-in-doubt-that-are-too-lazy-to-bother-reading". Your "period" you can use elsewhere.
To your last question: Windows is what the guides are written for, so doing everything on Windows will be better - it won't require you to understand and "translate" everything to Linux.

Jack_R1 said:
No, that's not what forums are for. You should probably look at the name of the forum and think, what does "-developers" part stand for, and why isn't it called "XDA-users-in-doubt-that-are-too-lazy-to-bother-reading".
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(wish I could give this a thumbs up too )

@sky770... The guys are right, In my opinion it's only worth rooting your device if you plan to try a couple of custom ROM's. You seriously won't regret. HTC have a habit of leaving some of the older devices to "fall & die" without providing updates. Through the hard work and determination of some of these guys on here, You will not only have your handset kept alive but also at the same level as some as HTC's flagship devices.
As for recommendation on ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679125

[Q] Official Android 4 installed (how do i root now?)

I installed the official ICS from HTC's website. its like a RUU or something. I'm real real noob and i kinda want to root now. Is it too late? or do i have to wait? O and further information I don't know what radios, roms, flashing... etc means. so ya!.. im a real noob sry guys.

Based on your description to yourself, as you real real real noob and does not know the meaning of the technical words and things done to your phone. I would strongly suggest to keep out of rooting. You might kill your phone.
Rooting is not for yourself, and for noobs, again based from on you self description.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app

APPLEMYASS said:
I installed the official ICS from HTC's website. its like a RUU or something. I'm real real noob and i kinda want to root now. Is it too late? or do i have to wait? O and further information I don't know what radios, roms, flashing... etc means. so ya!.. im a real noob sry guys.
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OP, i would suggest that u take time to read the stickies. There are full of information inside in detail. And if u still need further detail then google is your friend.
The search button would do you a great help, no point posting the same question and waiting it to be answered as most question concerning rooting has been answered before, many times. As rooting is not something newly discovered for to this phone.
If you do not take the time to read then u will bump into many issue, that would of course not cost anyone in this forum any harm, but cost your phone to possibly brick.
Read the guides, read the pros and cons, and read the comments(don't be fooled by the number of complains, most of them have solutions and the methods are proven to work).
If you have doubt, search 1st, search 2nd, search google, try different words and finally only then post a question.

rain987 said:
OP, i would suggest that u take time to read the stickies. There are full of information inside in detail. And if u still need further detail then google is your friend.
The search button would do you a great help, no point posting the same question and waiting it to be answered as most question concerning rooting has been answered before, many times. As rooting is not something newly discovered for to this phone.
If you do not take the time to read then u will bump into many issue, that would of course not cost anyone in this forum any harm, but cost your phone to possibly brick.
Read the guides, read the pros and cons, and read the comments(don't be fooled by the number of complains, most of them have solutions and the methods are proven to work).
If you have doubt, search 1st, search 2nd, search google, try different words and finally only then post a question.
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kk ty for the reply but wat i rlly meant is that i can't really find any articles about how to root a htc desire s with android 4 installed. I read alot of posts and i tried the power with colume down button to check my hboot version but it just flashes a white frame and then turns black. Of course i would be glad if you could tell me a post that explains how to root a desire s with ics installed

Skanob said:
Based on your description to yourself, as you real real real noob and does not know the meaning of the technical words and things done to your phone. I would strongly suggest to keep out of rooting. You might kill your phone.
Rooting is not for yourself, and for noobs, again based from on you self description.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
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ty for emphasizing on my noob"ness" and i had started to read alot of posts and you know im starting to get the stuff. But can you help me on my question?? do you know how to s-off the desire s with ics installed or where i could get more information on this? thx for replying tho!!

The information is all over the forum. At least one of the guides that is good for Gingerbread, is good for ICS too. Until you have enough knowledge to figure this stuff out yourself, I'd suggest, as others, to stay away from rooting. I don't want to answer another barrage of questions "this doesn't work and that doesn't work, I'm stuck with a non-working phone, what do I do now", and in fact I won't answer. If enough of those few that can answer will be annoyed to the point where they won't bother answering - you'll be left with a non-working phone and no help.

You have two options, and both are well documented in these forums.
1. (recommended): downgrade your hboot (and with it the system software, but afterwards you can install what you want) and then get s-off
2. : unlock your phone on the htc-dev website, lose any warranty, always need to flash boot.img by fastboot from pc etc.
Guides for both these options should be quickly found on these forums through searching.
You have hboot 2.xx.xxxx. that's why you can't get s-off without downgrading.

teadrinker said:
1. (recommended): downgrade your hboot (and with it the system software, but afterwards you can install what you want) and then get s-off
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AFAIK it is not possible to downgrade hboot on ICS RUU without root. And you can't get root without unlock via htc-dev.
So you need to unlock via htc-dev!
Correct me if I'm wrong and please share a link.
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APPLEMYASS said:
I installed the official ICS from HTC's website. its like a RUU or something. I'm real real noob and i kinda want to root now. Is it too late? or do i have to wait? O and further information I don't know what radios, roms, flashing... etc means. so ya!.. im a real noob sry guys.
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May I ask how the official release is working? Did it slow down your phone?
Thanks

colarus said:
AFAIK it is not possible to downgrade hboot on ICS RUU without root. And you can't get root without unlock via htc-dev.
So you need to unlock via htc-dev!
Correct me if I'm wrong and please share a link.
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Indeed, AFAIK you can't get root in ICS without HTCDev unlock.
So you can either HTCDev unlock and root, or you can HTCDev unlock, root, relock, downgrade, S-OFF, upgrade bootloader, and then do whatever you want.
Guides for both of those methods exist.

Jack_R1 said:
Indeed, AFAIK you can't get root in ICS without HTCDev unlock.
So you can either HTCDev unlock and root, or you can HTCDev unlock, root, relock, downgrade, S-OFF, upgrade bootloader, and then do whatever you want.
Guides for both of those methods exist.
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Is temp root by superoneclick, zergrush... not possible on ICS? It worked on GB with hboot 2.
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teadrinker said:
Is temp root by superoneclick, zergrush... not possible on ICS? It worked on GB with hboot 2.
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than what to do

teadrinker said:
Is temp root by superoneclick, zergrush... not possible on ICS? It worked on GB with hboot 2.
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arjun1459 said:
than what to do
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This is why people start getting annoyed with the 'noobs' on the forums. You ask questions, get them answered by guys like Jack_R1 who know what they are talking about and then just ignore them, or ask the same damn question again.

APPLEMYASS said:
I installed the official ICS from HTC's website. its like a RUU or something. I'm real real noob and i kinda want to root now. Is it too late? or do i have to wait? O and further information I don't know what radios, roms, flashing... etc means. so ya!.. im a real noob sry guys.
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Well for any noob the internet is a great place to start especially XDA
As people have instructed already these forums are full of wisdom, and Im sure the answer is in one of the many threads.
But at a high level this is what I did:
1.Installed the official ICS update from HTC using the RUU.
2.Unlocked the phone via HTC dev website instructions.
3.Rooted the phone using SuperOneClick(Flashed it via recovery)
But I really dont understand why you would want to root the stock rom as it does not even support overclocking, I mean the kernel.
Im using Fallout V5.0 and I assure you thats its way better than stock
Note: If all this seems like greek and latin to you, please refrain from rooting your device and hence avoid any possible damage to your phone.