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Hi guys,
My polaris randomly decided to stop recieving a signal the other day,
it still recieves GPRS data, but no GSM signal, no matter which network etc I select. (No Service Icon.)
First I tried different simcards etc in the phone but this didnt work, I then swapped over the board of the phone, thinking this must solve the problem but it hasnt.. (different Rom, Radio aswell)
Same as before the phone recieves a GPRS signal but no gsm signal. Just the exclamation mark next to the signal meter...
I also tried updating both the ROM and radio on the phone, and the board that I swapped in was from another polaris I had with a cracked screen that was working fine before...
( I used, outer casings from the suspected broken radio phone and the board from the cracked screen phone which had no reception problems.)
What could be the problem guys? Which parts of the phone affect the signal???
( The phone is actually an orbit 2, I have had it running for over a year now on the Mamine rom, and unlocked with Olipro and never had a problem, it also doesnt work with an O2 sim incase anyone suggested it was simlocked or something.)
Cheers,
Dan.
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were you moving around? could always be a carrier problem....
if gprs is working ok it's doubtful to be radio rom/hardware
Yeah, it is the same everywhere, just the noservice notification.
Other phones work fine, so def a prob with the phone...
Could O2 have locked the phone for some reason?? It was purchased via ebay, could it have been stolen or something? Would it have had 2 have an O2 signal for O2 to block the phone??
Cheers...
I have a same problem. Firstly, when i turn on my HTC TOUCH CRUISE. It says, no network, than after 5mins, it says, no sim card inserted. Can anyone help me what's the problem?
This problem seems to be popping up a bit around the forum...
Is it with O2 Orbit 2's only?? Could O2 have sent something out blocking some of the handsets via the imei or something?
Is there a solution??
Cheers guys,
biscuitboy said:
This problem seems to be popping up a bit around the forum...
Is it with O2 Orbit 2's only?? Could O2 have sent something out blocking some of the handsets via the imei or something?
Is there a solution??
Cheers guys,
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I also have strange problems. My Cruise dropped on the floor on a skiing trip last March, and since than it has strange network problems.
It mostly says 'No service', but sometimes (randamly) it says something like 'Searching...', 'Denied,Searching...'
I'm not sure if I translated this correctly, I have a Dutch version of the standard 6.1 ROM. I hard reset, re-flashed to original firmware RUU_Polaris_HTC_NLD_3.13.404.0_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship.exe
Since this afternoon it is not connecting at all. No reception at all.
My provider is the Dutch one Vodafone (it shoud say '3G Vodafone NL'). Funny is that the those items are unchecked in the network selection (phone --> network --> select networks), but that seems to be the case with other users as well.
Does anyone has a clue?
Greetings,
Murwin.
Same Problem
My Polaris randomly goes offline and gives the ! mark next to the signal meter. I have tried changing Radio ROM and it makes not difference. I think the problem is with the SIM Card reader. I put some sponge tape over the top of the SIM Card reader so it puts even downward pressure on it and the problem is almost fixed. It still randomly goes offline, but only once a day now. If anyone has had any better luck, please post the solution here.
Thanks
I have attached pic... I want to know what each terminal is for.. I am sure about B and D coz i tested them... Don't know about remaining... Can someone help?
A = ?
B = Wifi
C = ?
D = GSM Network
E = ?
Only answer if you are really damn sure... No guesses...
Hi,
I am interested in this as well.
I can confirm B.
My wifi disappeared,so I lifted the two connectors and it was restored.
EDIT:
I just checked my phone.
I haven't got an A
That 'A' is still controversial... It comes in T-MoUS Sensations... Not present in European and XE Sensation...
Some say it's 4G, but then i read that guys with T-Mob using XE Sensation backcover getting 4G signals without any problems.. So it's not 4G ..:-/
Anyone? A million people having Sensation don't know what those antenna are for?
Ha, well that explains what the mysterious bump is on the inside of my back cover - it's another thing that would have been painted yellow if my phone had been shipped to a different part of the world!
A person makes a pretty good aerial, so try taking the back off and touching each contact on the phone in turn with your finger to see which radio's signal comes back.
"A" is clearly for a radio which has no purpose in the UK, or perhaps for one which can share its aerial with another radio... Could it be a different frequency thing, like an optimised antenna for a different GSM band or even for CDMA if the Sensation has a version that supports it? Or it could still be for 4G; just because you read something somewhere doesn't mean it's true.
I can personally confirm that the extra antenna is not 4G. I bought a white XE cover and have noticed zero reception problems in WiFi, 2G/3G/4G, and GPS.
jjdoctor said:
I have attached pic... I want to know what each terminal is for.. I am sure about B and D coz i tested them... Don't know about remaining... Can someone help?
A = Diversity Antenna (RX Only)
B = WiFi & Bluetooth
C = GPS Receive
D = Cellular Network Transmit
E = Cellular Network Receive
Only answer if you are really damn sure... No guesses...
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See this PDF attachment by me, it's from the FCC filing. All the antennas are labeled.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=763245&d=1319731287
It's from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18815345
~T.J.
EDIT: Forgot it was semi determined the photo is wrong and has GPS and diversity switched most likely.
Interesting... although I'm lacking the gps antenna but still have gps. What does 'diversity' antenna mean?
02CWRX said:
See this PDF attachment by me, it's from the FCC filing. All the antennas are labeled.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=763245&d=1319731287
It's from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18815345
~T.J.
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just like tlloyd87 said, i m also lacking this antenna A in my back cover and i have GPS fully functional...
That D i agree is GSM network, but i can't say exactly if it's only one sided reception only coz i applied aluminum foil to only D and my network reception showed up and i dialed a number and got connected without any issues..
When i touched E alone, i had no reception at all..
I read that thread but it's not coinciding with facts... That PDF marks GPS wrong too...
One theory is that the photo from the filing actually shows the antennas switched (GPS for Diversity) meaning you still get GPS, but are missing the diversity antenna - IE - a Sensation 4G has diversity and GPS, a Sensation XE (and apparently some international phones) only have GPS.
I forgot about this when I posted, I have edited my above post. This has all been covered many times, you could search and read about it all.
tlloyd87 said:
Interesting... although I'm lacking the gps antenna but still have gps. What does 'diversity' antenna mean?
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The diversity antenna was described as being a "booster antenna" to try and improve reception and supposedly isn't used at all times. People who have put different back covers on without it seem to report no loss in signal strength, so maybe it's not used at all?
~T.J.
Just looked it up on Wikipedia, apparently a Diversity antenna is to mitigate interference caused by the radio signal bouncing off obstacles between the transmitter and receiver. Several aerials receiving the same signal means at least one of them should get something usable. I believe 802.11n wireless uses this principle.
Perhaps a diversity antenna isn't necessary for correct operation, but can improve reception where fitted?
Correct. MIMO (multi in, multi out) technology is the same concept/same thing. No one is just sure how often it's used, or if it's used at all currently.
~T.J.
Are you having issues where the phone's internet cutting out? I'm trying to work out if its an issue with the phone or the signal in Manchester.
The phone will be working fine for texts and phone calls then when I go to use Internet radio, Marketplace or Internet browser quite often the internet will drop out.
Hi no .
My phone is behaving but does have the 3g to H problem where it flies between the 2 . Although this does seem not as bad as other users are experiencing
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Its literally driving me insane. Its about 6/10 times I go to use the internet it wont work! But if I do get it to stream it seems to be ok.
I'm considering going for the ONE X instead getting sick of the problems with the S.. Shame really as I love the size!
Hard reset and see how it acts after that .
Most of the niggles I had went after I did that.
The S for me is a keeper for a while , screen is great , battery life is amazing . Have you called 3 to see if there's an issue
Got mine today from three. Will report back if I notice anything. Three can slow data down I believe depending on usage on a network. Being in a city might have something to do with it.
Sent from my HTC One S using XDA
Be grateful you get signal. I get jack sh*t in manchester with vodafone haha, always have.
Well I unlocked my bootloader last night, didn't end up putting any ROMs on it but had to start again with my Apps everything was working perfectly when I went to download everything (This is in Sale, about 5 miles from where I work). I even managed some Battle Field 3 online gaming via personal hotspot on my PC.
It was only late on last night I starting having an issue.. was it an app I installed I wonder? I will experiment further.
Shame its networked locked, was going to led it to my friend to try with his Vodfone sim to see how he gets on with it.
Its not the PHONE WOooh! Three have just called, problem with the mast in my area, fixed by the 27th. I can deal with that. And there I was deleting apps etc.
mardon85 said:
Its not the PHONE WOooh! Three have just called, problem with the mast in my area, fixed by the 27th. I can deal with that. And there I was deleting apps etc.
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Not to deflate your balloon but I have same prob. I have a fairly good Three signal where I live NE of York. Put the sim out of my One S into Defy+ and I get good signal. Put sim back into One S and back to 1 or 2 bars. I took it back to Three in York but with full signal in York had a hard time explaining my prob. So the assistant typed on the computer ..... guess what she said ....
" problem with the mast in my area, fixed by the end of the week"
Now that is one coincidence is it not? That said even if there was an issue with the 'mast' doesn't explain why the Defy+ has the normal good signal with no signal loss as per One S
Micro sim will work in Defy+ if you place it correctly over the connecting pins!
There are others on here with similar problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1588345
There is definitely an issue with the current radio firmware as I still have the jumping 3G to H sign but even so at home on the Wirral or in Sale Manchester the internet is spot on, even if it only has 3/4 bars where as in work its full signal but the internet drops out all over the show.
I think it could well be a coincidence that there is an issue with the mast you're on, does the Desire support the faster HSDP+ internet? Maybe its that?
Not sure about the Desire.
I think it's probably the a firmware issue as you say. I know I have a good Three signal where I live as I've tried their PAYG service. Put either the payg or the monthly contract sim, both from Three, in the Defy+ and get a good signal readout. The signal seems to bounce all over. One minute I'm on full bars and the next lost connection. In York where signal is stronger than mine in the sticks there is no issue. Tried with little success to explain the problem to the assitant in Three shop but with full bars on phone she thought I was some sort of fool Mind you when she played the mast card asked why then the Moto Defy+ had no issues with signal
I'm hoping there will be a patch from HTC at some point though they maybe need to be made aware of the issue. I would like to try a T-Mobile sim in the One S but suspect it's locked to Three. I'm sure it's a network provider issue.
I just want to write this post maybe it will help anyone that has or will have the same problem. I looked all over the internet and could not find a fix, so here is my fix. Hope it works.
I work over seas on oil rig sites (remote locations) so I talk to my wife and family back home via different VOIP apps so its important to get a 3G signal, usually I lock WCDMA only network and get at least 1 bar which is sufficient. All of a sudden I started experiencing very weak 3G signal on my phone, weirdly this was at the same location where it had full bars in the past. This only applies for 3G, I could get 2G signal no problem.
In other areas that I know had good 3G signals and towers were close, it would work alright outdoors but once I get behind a door or a window 3G disappears even if I have it locked. I put in my sim card in my old Galaxy Nexus and it had 3G indoors with no problems at the same place and right next to the N5. So I started testing with both phones right next to each other when I lock 3G with the same SIM the Galaxy nexus would get 3 bars while the Nexus 5 would get the empty triangle (emergency calls only).
I couldn't get out of my mind that I dropped my Nexus 5 a hard drop, but I have a rubber case that took all the shock and the phone didn't get a scratch on it. This was before the 3G signal starts getting funny. Couldn't help but feel that I broke it somehow though. I felt like this might have got something loose inside. What didn't make sense to me is that if the antenna didn't work it wouldn't get 3G at all, indoors and outdoors.
So Step 1, I assumed it was a software issue. I went through a painful hard reset. To my surprise it still had the same issue afterwards.
Then out of desperation I saw this dude's video on how he couldn't lock GPS until he opened the back of the phone and found that the GPS antenna was not connecting straight.
youtube com/watch?v=K1-uCIb-t8I[/url]
So I started searching for where the 3G or 2G antennas are on the N5, but couldnt find anything that points that out. The phone was worthless to me like that so... I took a deep breath and decided to open the phone. Keep in mind, i'm an oilfield engineer and I still had a feeling i might [email protected]#k the phone up, specially that I did not have any tools with me.
So I watched this video on how to open up the back cover:
youtube com/watch?v=mkbmtu-1KSQ[/url]
and went through this guide on what's inside the N5:
theregister co uk/2013/11/05/nexus_5_teardown_shows_a_light_touch_thats_easy_to_fix/[/url]
Then I opened it, couldn't find anything to do, except maybe clean the minor dust off and blow on the ICs a bit. There is alot of pins that connect to antennas located on the back cover itself, so I closed it up, made sure its closed tight and all the pins touching, put in my SIM, and GOD DAMN!! IT WORKS AGAIN... I was getting full bars 3G!!!
So what I figured is that when I dropped it, one of those pins moved a little bit away and broke the connection between the antenna and the IC. Works great for the last 5 hours, solid connection.
Hope I would help anyone with this
PS: put the dots in the links, XDA won't let me post outside URLs
walid.eldalil said:
I just want to write this post maybe it will help anyone that has or will have the same problem. I looked all over the internet and could not find a fix, so here is my fix. Hope it works.
I work over seas on oil rig sites (remote locations) so I talk to my wife and family back home via different VOIP apps so its important to get a 3G signal, usually I lock WCDMA only network and get at least 1 bar which is sufficient. All of a sudden I started experiencing very weak 3G signal on my phone, weirdly this was at the same location where it had full bars in the past. This only applies for 3G, I could get 2G signal no problem.
In other areas that I know had good 3G signals and towers were close, it would work alright outdoors but once I get behind a door or a window 3G disappears even if I have it locked. I put in my sim card in my old Galaxy Nexus and it had 3G indoors with no problems at the same place and right next to the N5. So I started testing with both phones right next to each other when I lock 3G with the same SIM the Galaxy nexus would get 3 bars while the Nexus 5 would get the empty triangle (emergency calls only).
I couldn't get out of my mind that I dropped my Nexus 5 a hard drop, but I have a rubber case that took all the shock and the phone didn't get a scratch on it. This was before the 3G signal starts getting funny. Couldn't help but feel that I broke it somehow though. I felt like this might have got something loose inside. What didn't make sense to me is that if the antenna didn't work it wouldn't get 3G at all, indoors and outdoors.
So Step 1, I assumed it was a software issue. I went through a painful hard reset. To my surprise it still had the same issue afterwards.
Then out of desperation I saw this dude's video on how he couldn't lock GPS until he opened the back of the phone and found that the GPS antenna was not connecting straight.
youtube com/watch?v=K1-uCIb-t8I[/url]
So I started searching for where the 3G or 2G antennas are on the N5, but couldnt find anything that points that out. The phone was worthless to me like that so... I took a deep breath and decided to open the phone. Keep in mind, i'm an oilfield engineer and I still had a feeling i might [email protected]#k the phone up, specially that I did not have any tools with me.
So I watched this video on how to open up the back cover:
youtube com/watch?v=mkbmtu-1KSQ[/url]
and went through this guide on what's inside the N5:
theregister co uk/2013/11/05/nexus_5_teardown_shows_a_light_touch_thats_easy_to_fix/[/url]
Then I opened it, couldn't find anything to do, except maybe clean the minor dust off and blow on the ICs a bit. There is alot of pins that connect to antennas located on the back cover itself, so I closed it up, made sure its closed tight and all the pins touching, put in my SIM, and GOD DAMN!! IT WORKS AGAIN... I was getting full bars 3G!!!
So what I figured is that when I dropped it, one of those pins moved a little bit away and broke the connection between the antenna and the IC. Works great for the last 5 hours, solid connection.
Hope I would help anyone with this
PS: put the dots in the links, XDA won't let me post outside URLs
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Thats nice , but lots of ppls have the signal issues with nexus 5 , and it isn't antena disconect for 90 % if us. I have separated the phone many times. , done about 5 hard resets's tried diffrent verions of radio's diffrent ROM's etc... nothing work's. Frineds have nexus 5 2 of them , and they can get 3g and 4g when they want, and i can only get Edge which is 2g. which is unusable..... I noticed that i have 3g only when i am in other towns, but not mine home town.... I tried diffrent sim cards, and diffrent netowrks, nothing seams to get the 3g at home, plus the gsm sucks, it interupts the calls.. So i must be the frequencies of the working 3g network in mine home town ? Then how i don't get 4g ? Why other ppl with the same phone, and same network have 3g when put next to mine ? NO one knows...
Same Issue
i am having the same issue, just having "E" Edge and cannot connect to 3G/4G, done everything to resolve the issue, took apart the antenna part of my phone but all the connectors and wires are intact, did hard reset several times, tried different ROMS including stock ROMS, tried the *#*#4636#*#* selected all the Radios but no luck, used 2 different sim cards but no use, same damn "E" in the status bar, APNs are all in place, nothing is wrong with the settings so far, dont know wots da problem with this set.
Please help us.
Hello guys and girls,
after experiencing some GPS problems (loss of signal on the road and/or late fix) I did the fix found on youtube (Where you place a bit of paper/tape under the GPS antenna contacts). It worked just fine, my GPS fix is now happening faster and I did not lose the signal ever since. But I am now facing some (weird?) problem: My GSM connection (GRPS, EDGE) is really really bad. In my room I don't get any signal at all, outside I get like 1 out of 4 bars of signal strength, but I lose it after a few seconds. I normally have 4 out of 4 bars in my room. BUT: My 3G connection works fine, 3G, LTE, same connectivity as before.
My friends phone (same carrier) does get the full GRPS/EDGE connection in my room, so it's not the carrier having problems. I didn't do any updates or anything in the last weeks. It would be a huge coincidence, if a software bug happened while I fixed the GPS problem, so I assume it's a hardware related thing?
How might I fix that, what possible solutions are there?
Tried the following so far:
Restarting multiple times, with our without airplane mode
Re-inserting the sim-car
Switching between LTE only, GSM/LTE, GSM only
Flashing new/other modem
Replacing the speaker/antenna-module
-> nothing changed
out of sheer curiousity, and after reading your post, im stuck wondering.. why do you want or need your gprs and edge connection when your 3G/LTE is fine? data speeds are very slow, and drain lots of battery using anything internet or download related..
Yeah, sure, 3G/LTE is better and coverage is really good where I live, that's why it's not an emergency for me, but it's very important to get it back to work properly.
I know at least 2 situations where I really need GSM (GPRS,EDGE):
1) At work (huge metal building, no 3G/LTE, only GSM) -> I can't call, text or do anything with my phone (don't worry, I am allowed to do so and no, there is no WiFi)
2) On the road, especially the german autobahn has large areas where there is no 3G/LTE coverage, so I can't use my navigation-software properly and can't respond to calls or whatsoever
So all in all: GSM in really important for me. Please help me. :crying:
ahh.. I see.
and your GPRS/edge was fine before the GPS "fix"? maybe something got loosened?
Before I did the fix it worked perfectly fine. Directly after I did it, the gsm was gone so I figured that I somehow damaged the antenna. But since I replaced it and nothing changed I am not sure what to do now. Are there other antennas, are there other modules that influence gsm, that I might have damaged or loosened?
That's what can happen when you tinker with guts of your phone. You risk damaging or messing it up. Sorry, I don't mean to sound like a jerk.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Yes, dave2metz, I know. I was fully aware of that when I opened my phone for the first time to fix the GPS thing. But I am not here for moral advice.
Any ideas how I could fix my problem are highly appreciated!
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Just checked: The sim-card is not the cause of the problem either. I would really appreciate some good ideas guys..
No idea what I might try?
My best guess is that this is a hardware related problem. But how does one fix it? I replaced the antenna (the bottom thing), nothing changed. So that specific antenna was not the cause of the problem.
Are there other antennas?
Are there antenna-connections that I could check?
Any other hardware things that I might check?
Anything that might have lost the physcical contact inside the phone because of that GPS fix?
Could it, against all odds, be a software problem?
Please, I am really in need of a working phone. If I can't fix it I need to replace it sooner or later because GSM is essential.
If anyone can provide me with an idea or something that leads me to a fix, I will reward you (amazon gift-card or whatsoever).
Cheers,
.yasu
Did you figure it out?
.yasu said:
No idea what I might try?
My best guess is that this is a hardware related problem. But how does one fix it? I replaced the antenna (the bottom thing), nothing changed. So that specific antenna was not the cause of the problem.
Are there other antennas?
Are there antenna-connections that I could check?
Any other hardware things that I might check?
Anything that might have lost the physcical contact inside the phone because of that GPS fix?
Could it, against all odds, be a software problem?
Please, I am really in need of a working phone. If I can't fix it I need to replace it sooner or later because GSM is essential.
If anyone can provide me with an idea or something that leads me to a fix, I will reward you (amazon gift-card or whatsoever).
Cheers,
.yasu
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Did you end up figuring anything out for this? I have something along the same lines. I dropped my phone and smashed the screen. I was able to get a guy to replace the screen portion of the unit, but immediately after I got it back it had no cell reception. Rebooted came, back thought everything was cool.
After a couple weeks I notice my phone has lost reception occasionally. It's now gotten worse, I used to be able to reboot it about 5 or 6 times and then it would randomly come back. I've even had it come back without performing a reboot on its own.
I ended up taking the whole thing apart, reseating everything after having a day and half span where I have been unable to get it back and boom reception came back. Thought it was his repair job at that point, but it has since dropped the signal again and I can't get it back. Yesterday even I was showing LTE signal changing from low to strong etc, but my network was still down as I couldn't perform a search, maps, or anything.
I have my phone apart again. I've checked all the connections over and over and wondering what else to look for or try to replace. True my impact could have damaged a component on the mainboard, but my phone works fine in all other areas. I could replace the antenna wires and the antenna/speaker module, but I'm not sure it just a reception problem.
My phone also boots into airplane mode when it has no signal, but turning it off does not restore the connection or anything. Rebooting it puts it back into airplane mode. *#*#4636#*# shows my radio is off. Thinking it's a short or something somewhere, but I doubt I'll be able to fix it in that case - at least without a mainboard?
That's my other question, what part need to be replaced for experiencing no network and its not the antenna or antenna wires? Is the mainboard? Sister board? Currently researching teardown as this phone is modular and I'm sure I could source the part off ebay or something.
Hi,
There's one antenna for 2G/3G/4G so I think if this problem was caused by hardware, it would affect overall connection to mobile network.
I think that this might me software-related problem but actually can't figure out which. Only thing I'm currently thinking of it that your phone has problems with connecting to certain GSM band. For example in Europe are 900 MHz and 1800 MHz standard for GSM.
Lower frequencies bring you better coverage. Your phone might have trouble with connecting to them and automatically selects 1800 MHz layer.
If you are able to get another phone with SIM of the same network provider, I recommend you to download any networking app and compare data about cells. Mainly CID number. It's unique identifier of each cell in an area.
If both phones are connected to same cell (CIDs are equal), you have to compare RSSI values. Lower means better signal. RSSI is defined as a negative number in an interval of <-51; -113>. So -75 dBm is better than -89 dBm. In one place should be difference about +/- 5 dBm.
Reaching slightly different RSSI numbers while connected to same cell in same place might mean that your phone really have problems with radio.
hey mate,
My wife phon is having the same issue 4G works, 3G sort of works, 2G nothing.
[Did the GPS fix on my wife's Nexus 5 (and mine) also]
swapped sim, used another telco same issue.
when into service menu did *#*#4635#*#* , click the 3 dots, select radio band - only see USA band.
While my phone had automatic, usa bad , usa band, japan band.
she is running stock rom with unlocked boot loader, I am on CM11 but doubt that should make any difference.
if I work out what is going on will report back.
nexus 5 3g 4g damaged
hello guys?.. my htc nexus 5 got wet and i notice the signal strength got lost. when i open it up i notice the lines on the antenna got damage. how do i repair it? or should i replace it with new one? Pls help !!
Is issue still remaining?
Hi. I am having the same problem. Could anyone find a fix for this?
My GPS was and is fine. I didn't do the gps fix, but I have replaced my battery and I think it happened after the replace...