Samsung Bluetooth bugs, Nexus 4G, Droid HSPDA? - General Questions and Answers

Since I have screwed up my Atrix screen while repairing the glass, decided I would rather spend money on a new phone than another repair attempt. I've got my eyes on 3 phones but I have a lot of questions.
I'm on ATT with an unlimited plan so I don't want to switch carriers. I have a lot of bluetooth gadgets (keyboard, mouse, zephyr heart rate monitor, OBDII adapter) so bluetooth performance is important. I also would like a hardware keyboard if possible but that is pretty rare on the high end phones these days.
I am considering the Samsung Galaxy Note, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and the Motorola Droid 4.
Several previous Samsung models had significant bugs in their bluetooth stack. Are those fixed now on current models?
Will there be a Droid 4 released internationally with AT&T HSPDA or LTE bands?
How hackable are the Galaxy Note and Droid? Motorola has a mixed record on locked bootloaders lately.
Is there any reason to believe that a Galaxy Nexus with AT&T LTE might be released or is HSPDA as good as it will get?
Thanks for your time.
David

Bad Bluetooth stack
I am running the VZW Galaxy Nexus JB 4.2 and the new Bluetooth Stack won't play nice with my Toyota Audio system. Song info and artwork do not display. I had no problems with $>!>@ They switched from the Bluez stack to a new one. Any ideas as to when this will be addressed?

This may be addressed at code.google.com for example.
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will Sprint or other carriers get the Nexus-S?

Just wondering if Google will try again to have this new Nexus out on all 4 major carriers? That would be perfect and bring some much needed competition in the market. If your favorite phone is available on all carriers then you just chosse the best service and price. I think Apple should that too with their iPhones. Would force carriers to be better priced.
But specifically wondering if Sprint will get the Nexus-S soon? I dumped my EVO for the N-S and love the phone just not thrilled with T-Mobile spotty service and practically no service inside my house or other buildings. Where as the EVO worked non stop perfect inside anywhere even basements.
Thank you.
Very unlikely since the whole "Nexus" brand was to deliver a device that's unlocked, and supports international bands, therefore it's GSM.
It's unlikely, but I have my fingers crossed!
One of the reasons I think Google went with Samsung with this Nexus is because HTC failed to deliver on their main goal for the Nexus One: to create a carrier-ambiguous device that can be used on any carrier(obviously a CDMA version on CDMA network, and GSM on GSM network blahblahbalh).
Samsung proved that they had that ability to bring their Galaxy S lineup to each major carrier.
unremarked said:
It's unlikely, but I have my fingers crossed!
One of the reasons I think Google went with Samsung with this Nexus is because HTC failed to deliver on their main goal for the Nexus One: to create a carrier-ambiguous device that can be used on any carrier(obviously a CDMA version on CDMA network, and GSM on GSM network blahblahbalh).
Samsung proved that they had that ability to bring their Galaxy S lineup to each major carrier.
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I'd love a Nexus S type device on Verizon.
Do you think Google blamed HTC for not delivering a CDMA phone? I always thought HTC just made the phone, and Google worried about getting it "out there." I thought Verizon just wasn't interested, at the time, in a phone that Verizon didn't control the software on; that's always been a major complaint with VZW by geeks (like me) who want to control what's on their phone and what's not.
On sprint I have the ns with a keyboard, but sprint is so slow delivering updates compared to google that we're all still waiting for 2.2, let alone 2.3
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On sprint I have the ns with a keyboard, but sprint is so slow delivering updates compared to google that we're all still waiting for 2.2, let alone 2.3
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Yeah, that's the allure of the actual NS over any of the Galaxy S phones (Epic, Vibrant, i9000, Fascinate, Captivate), the direct AOSP first and fast from Google, and written specifically to that hardware.
The build quality and "feel" of my NS is far superior to my i9000, not that it's bad in the other devices, but they really got it right with the NS.
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On sprint I have the ns with a keyboard, but sprint is so slow delivering updates compared to google that we're all still waiting for 2.2, let alone 2.3
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Not if you're on a rooted Epic we're not

SGS2 or GN for future proofing?

I plan to put a mobile on contract which means 24 months for me. Which of those is best suited for future-proof in terms of software?
Well the Galaxy Nexus will receive updates longer than the Galaxy S2, meaning Galaxy Nexus will have next generation Android update, and Galaxy S2 won't. Galaxy Nexus will also most likely get more support from Google and such since it's a vanilla (for the most part) Google phone. Galaxy S2 has better hardware specs, but Galaxy Nexus has better software and support. I went with the Epic 4G Touch because it's the best of the Galaxy S2 phones and I'd rather have unlimited data than Verizon's current 4GB for the price of 2GB deal. So future proof wise, Galaxy Nexus is probably your best bet since Epic 4G Touch won't have as much support even with ROMs.
The software issues shouldnt be looked at as a negative,if youre on xda then you know youll have access to better software anyway(custom roms).id go with better phone.
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[Q] Looking for a good, cheap, no-contract AT&T smartphone

I don't have my Motorola Atrix 4G anymore, so I'm looking for a good, cheap, no contract smartphone with a physical QWERTY keyboard to buy myself. Right now I'm borrowing a friend's Pantech Link until I get a new phone. I don't want to spend more than around $100, though I'm willing to go a little higher if it's worth it. I mostly use my phone for texting, calling, browsing, Facebook, email, looking up directions/movies/restaurants, and playing Pokemon with an emulator so nothing too intensive, I really didn't need such a high-end smartphone like I used to have.
I'm on AT&T so I need an AT&T phone smartphone or unlocked GSM smartphone that'll work with AT&T. I plan to use the phone for about a year and a half until my contract ends though I might buy another phone before then.
I've been looking at the Motorola Charm that Newegg has on sale for $100. It's unlocked and will work on AT&T, and looks pretty good other than it's 3 MP fixed focus screen and QVGA screen though for $100 it's much better than most of the dumbphones I'll find for under $100.
What do you guys think about this phone and do you know of any other good phones for under $100? Thanks!
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The LG quantum generally runs ~$100 used on online classifieds. Its a att phone with a slider keyboard, running windows phone 7. WP7 is very different compared to android, but its elegant looking, smooth, and super stable. The Facebook app, angrybirds, email are all really good. I doubt there are any free emulators for it, but there are a lot of good quality apps if you don't mind paying a few bucks.
Other than that on att with a keyboard you may be looking at older Windows Mobile phones, like the Tilt 2, or Fuze. They are great phones, with nice keyboards, but very low screen resulotion, and there are no apps in the way they exist on Android or WP7. You can install programs, but there is no store, and will all be old.
You also have the palm offering that might be cheap now. The veer and pre plus have sliders, and wesOS has an app store, even if it is dwindling. I do love my TouchPad, but didn't like a pre plus.
The next option is ... wait for it ... blackberry. I won't get into that, as that is the only platform I never tried.
I don't know about the TMo offerings, but any TMo phone unlocked will work, but you will only get edge, not 3G. The G1 would probably run in your price range.
If you can convince att to give you an early upgrade you could try for the Captivate Slide. Its almost the best android phone on att, and it has a keyboard. But, off contract will be way above your price range.
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quarlow said:
The LG quantum generally runs ~$100 used on online classifieds. Its a att phone with a slider keyboard, running windows phone 7. WP7 is very different compared to android, but its elegant looking, smooth, and super stable. The Facebook app, angrybirds, email are all really good. I doubt there are any free emulators for it, but there are a lot of good quality apps if you don't mind paying a few bucks.
Other than that on att with a keyboard you may be looking at older Windows Mobile phones, like the Tilt 2, or Fuze. They are great phones, with nice keyboards, but very low screen resulotion, and there are no apps in the way they exist on Android or WP7. You can install programs, but there is no store, and will all be old.
You also have the palm offering that might be cheap now. The veer and pre plus have sliders, and wesOS has an app store, even if it is dwindling. I do love my TouchPad, but didn't like a pre plus.
The next option is ... wait for it ... blackberry. I won't get into that, as that is the only platform I never tried.
I don't know about the TMo offerings, but any TMo phone unlocked will work, but you will only get edge, not 3G. The G1 would probably run in your price range.
If you can convince att to give you an early upgrade you could try for the Captivate Slide. Its almost the best android phone on att, and it has a keyboard. But, off contract will be way above your price range.
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Thanks for the advice!
The LG Quantum looks nice, and I've heard a lot of good things about the WP7 OS. I prefer Samsung phones over LG phones so I'll start looking at WP7 phones. I don't want anything outdated though so I'm going to stay away from phones like the HTC Tilt2 and HTC Fuze even though the Tilt 2 looks pretty nice.
I'm not a fan of Blackberries so I'm going to stay away from them.
Also, why would I only get Edge and not 3G if I used an unlocked T-Mobile phone? The Motorola Charm for example supports 850/900/1800/1900 MHz GSM bands; AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz and T-Mobile uses 900/1800 MHz so I'm not sure why I'd only get Edge.
Thanks again!
That charm might work on att 3G. The TMo branded devices generally lack at least one if not several of the att bands (TMo also uses 1700 and 2100). The vibrant is the only one I have heard of working on att, and it didn't support all the bands (I want to say it included 850, but not 1900), so it only worked in some regions.
I like Samsung over LG too, but the quantum is the only QWERTY WP7 device branded for att. The Samsung devices don't have keyboards. WP7 doesn't have the fragmentation that Android does. Microsoft put stricter hardware requirements on the OEMs, so I am fairly certain all of the devices are upgradeable to Mango. I know the original Focus (Samsung not Ford) was upgraded, and ran Mango perfectly. I had a Focus for a month, and was impressed with it, but ultimately went with SGS II, as I am an Android power user.
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quarlow said:
That charm might work on att 3G. The TMo branded devices generally lack at least one if not several of the att bands (TMo also uses 1700 and 2100). The vibrant is the only one I have heard of working on att, and it didn't support all the bands (I want to say it included 850, but not 1900), so it only worked in some regions.
I like Samsung over LG too, but the quantum is the only QWERTY WP7 device branded for att. The Samsung devices don't have keyboards. WP7 doesn't have the fragmentation that Android does. Microsoft put stricter hardware requirements on the OEMs, so I am fairly certain all of the devices are upgradeable to Mango. I know the original Focus (Samsung not Ford) was upgraded, and ran Mango perfectly. I had a Focus for a month, and was impressed with it, but ultimately went with SGS II, as I am an Android power user.
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I defiantly want either an Android 2.1/2.2/2.3 or a WP7/WP7.5 phone with a physical QWERTY keyboard that's cheap so there's not a lot to choose from. I looked online and the Motorola Charm doesn't support 3G on AT&T so that phone's off my list now. :/
I've been reading reviews on the LG Quantum and it looks like a really nice phone. Two main problems though. For one it doesn't have some of the Applications that I rely on that Android has. Notably, a SMS/MMS Backup Application. Second it's too much for my budget, it's about $160 new at the cheapest, plus CA sales tax. I'm kind of iffy about buying a phone used, do you know if it's cheaper anywhere else?
Thanks again for all your help!
I thought of a few more QWERTY att phones. The Dell Venue pro is a portrait slider running WP7. The Motorola Backflip (att's first android phone that everyone forgets about) has an interesting keyboard, it folds out, so when closed the keys face out, instead of sliding. But, I think its stuck on android 1.6. Motorola also released the flipside and flipout on att, both on 2.1. The flipout is smaller, and the keyboard rotates on a pivot, sliding out at 90 degrees. The flipside is more like a normal slider.
The SMS backup was a problem for me on the Focus too. Albeit not a huge problem, but one I never found a solution to. As far as apps, I found it annoying that some apps weren't there, and didn't want to stick it out until they were.
For QWERTY android phones its going to be tricky. HTC made great QWERTY WinMo phones, but no android ones for att (several for TMo). Samsung made the sprint version of the galaxy s QWERTY, but that won't work on att. The G2 on TMo is QWERTY, but won't get 3G data. The Motorola QWERTY android att phones are odd form factors (backflip and flipout), and weren't popular.
The flipside may be your best bet, and on eBay they are close to your range. I believe they run motoblur, which is known to cause poor performance, and generally one of the worst android skins. (What was on the Atrix is not the same, scaled back compared to those earlier versions from what I understand)
As far as used phones, I have never had issues buying used phones. Check the water indicators, and place a test call if buying local. If buying online many eBay sellers offer 30 day warranties.
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Which tablets can you use as a Phone? (No 3rd party app/VOIP)

I'm wondering what tablets out there that you can use as a Phone, even if they are hacked or need to be shipped overseas!
I used the original Galaxy Tab (7") as a phone (T-Mobile/USA) since late October 2010, but am looking to switch to a better/faster tablet phone. The Galaxy Tab I used was hacked by a guy who enabled the 'phone' function of it (used European firmware or something?)
I purchased the new Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus assuming that can be hacked to do it, unfortunately it cannot (Would need to buy an oversees model and ship it here)...
So what tablets allow this?
--I heard the Galaxy 8.9 might
--There's the new Galaxy Note and LG Vudo (spelling?), but those are only 5", a little small then what I'm used to
I'm not looking for Wifi calling, or 3rd party app calling, or VOIP calling, I'm talking GSM Calling (making a call from a SIM Card that supports voice + data)
I tried doing a Google search but it's a little hard finding accurate results with keywords like tablet/phone/gsm calls/etc
Hoping you experts out there might direct me in the right place
Broken in the Marketplace has a new Tab 7.0 that does it right out of the box. I can't remember the model number, but it's white and for AT&T I think
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Broken in the Marketplace has a new Tab 7.0 that does it right out of the box. I can't remember the model number, but it's white and for AT&T I think
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Broken in the Marketplace has a new Tab 7.0
What do you mean Broken in the Marketplace? I'm not sure if I read that right, are you saying there is a tablet on AT&T that is capable of this out of the box?
I went to their website and didn't see anything :\
HTC Flyer 3G, but needs to be hacked.
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Broken in the Marketplace has a new Tab 7.0
What do you mean Broken in the Marketplace? I'm not sure if I read that right, are you saying there is a tablet on AT&T that is capable of this out of the box?
I went to their website and didn't see anything :\
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I don't think it's from AT&T directly, but it is 3G-band compatible with their service.
Broken's For Sale thread is here.
Hope you can work something out
Thanks for the feedback and providing that link! The HTC Flyer looks decent, wish it had better specs (Dual core)... and that link to the Broken's for Sale, unfortunately I don't have 10 posts yet, so gotta wait it out!
Also wondering the same thing. I'm looking for a tablet i can just stick my T-mob sim in and use as a phone. no extra plan or anything. I have an android plan on it already.
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Also wondering the same thing. I'm looking for a tablet i can just stick my T-mob sim in and use as a phone. no extra plan or anything. I have an android plan on it already.
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If you find anything let me know So far I've only seen 1 or 2 options :\ I was debating getting the Sony Tablet P and doing VOIP but I'm a little turned off by VOIP after hearing some disadantages
Found this topic after doing a Google search for the same question...what I've found over time:
-HTC Flyer 3G - can be made to work as a GSM voice/text device with some work, and works on T-Mobile 3G; drawback being that it's ~$450 (like $200 more than the Wifi version) and single-core
-Samsung Galaxy 7.0 (original) - you obviously know about this one =P
-Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 - can do GSM voice/text and 3G/4G web out of the box; drawback being the high ~$600 price (it is a quality tablet, though), 7.7" size (I'd sooner go for a plain 7", but that's just me), and only does 2G on T-Mobile
-Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 - AFAIK can do GSM voice/text on the international version; drawback being that it only does 2G on T-Mobile
-T-Mobile Springboard (Huawei Mediapad) - from what I've gathered on the Mediapad/Springboard discussion topic on XDA, flashing the ICS beta from Huawei grants it GSM voice/text capabilities, but because of the IMEI, you're limited either to data-use only or GSM voice/text-use only (I could be wrong, but I can't truly confirm one way or the other); drawback being that there's very little support for it (doesn't have it's own board on XDA)
-Dell Streak 7 - has a dialer app "hidden" in the system, but nobody has been able to find a way to use it AFAIK
And there's a few random ZTE/Huawei/etc 7" tablets that seem to support GSM voice/text, but finding info on them seems to be even more difficult than on the Mediapad/Springboard, they seem to be pretty low-spec, and AFAIK they'd only offer 2G on T-Mobile (and probably on AT&T too).
Why companies (especially in the US) are so reluctant to add GSM voice/text capability to 7" tablets, especially ones compatible with T-Mobile US 3G, is beyond me, when there's a clear desire for it since the original Galaxy Tab 7. I'd really love a nice high-end tablet that I could just easily pop in the SIM from my T-Mobile phone and easily use.
Also, while on topic - I know you're obviously looking to upgrade your Galaxy Tab 7, but how does it currently work? From what I understand, you either have the choice of GSM voice/text and 2G web or T-Mobile 3G (not both), correct?
galaxy note 10.1
the new Samsung galaxy note 10.1 has phone capabilities right...

[Q] Thinking of Buying Galaxy Nexus - Need Advice

I am a Verizon customer and have also been playing around with Straight Talk ATT with a Nexus 5 and a OnePlus One (luck invite). Where I live east of Cleveland, the only reliable signal is with Verizon. I do not like any of the phones available now on Verizon. I am thinking about buying a GN and flashing CM11 on it to make it ASOP without Verizon's fingerprints all over it.
How capable is the GN in a land of apps being developed for Quad core phones and how much longer would the GN be useable? I can flash using ADB/Fastboot and am pretty capable of doing most of the stuff I need to do to mod a phone.
Just wanting to hear some users who are currently using their GN as a daily and if it is a capable device for 2014-2015.
Thanks!

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