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Hello I have run both the stock cm7 and cattleprods 4.3.1 with smartass
Even going as far as to use SetCPU profiles to reduce CPU to 245 min/Max on screen lock. Im able to squeeze 11-12 hours with decent usage
from what I unslderstand reading the lord UV kernal people are lacking hsupa which is something I rather like. And while im ok with 12hours usage if something unexpected it long dinner party after work, im SOL
Any help or tips would be great
Thanks
Drew
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HSUPA seems to be hit or miss on the LorDmod kernel which is strange because it's based off the CM7 kernel by Kali-. I changed my APN and my HSUPA speeds came back, at least what's normal for me in my area (3.5mbps down/2mbps up).
I was pulling a little over 48 hours out of the -25mV undervolt BFQhs version before it needed a charge or it wouldn't last the next day. I'm currently running the Pinky Ultra Undervolt version and will see what kind of battery life I can pull out of it.
Wrong forum for this. It should be in general but the lordmod kernel probably isn't the hsupa killer it was probably the radio swap I did. I fixed it but it was a PITA!
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G running CyanogenMod 7 using Tapatalk.
HSUPA seems to be hit or miss on the LorDmod kernel which is strange because it's based off the CM7 kernel by Kali-. I changed my APN and my HSUPA speeds came back, at least what's normal for me in my area (3.5mbps down/2mbps up).
I was pulling a little over 48 hours out of the -25mV undervolt BFQhs version before it needed a charge or it wouldn't last the next day. I'm currently running the Pinky Ultra Undervolt version and will see what kind of battery life I can pull out of it.
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Can I get a little assistance? I read throughout the your thread and the one u linked. There are about 15 different kernals and UV zips
Thanks. Im really interested in trying this out
Drew
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Mustang302LX said:
Wrong forum for this. It should be in general but the lordmod kernel probably isn't the hsupa killer it was probably the radio swap I did. I fixed it but it was a PITA!
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G running CyanogenMod 7 using Tapatalk.
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Sorry I couldent figure which forum would be most appropriate
anyone can move it if they are so inclined.
Drew
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helushune said:
HSUPA seems to be hit or miss on the LorDmod kernel which is strange because it's based off the CM7 kernel by Kali-. I changed my APN and my HSUPA speeds came back, at least what's normal for me in my area (3.5mbps down/2mbps up).
I was pulling a little over 48 hours out of the -25mV undervolt BFQhs version before it needed a charge or it wouldn't last the next day. I'm currently running the Pinky Ultra Undervolt version and will see what kind of battery life I can pull out of it.
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Do you just flash the lordmodV4.4.1-BFS-BFQ.zip file in recovery?
What do you do with lowervoltages-25.zip?
Thanks for the assistance this will be my first UV type kernel
Drew
drewdatrip said:
Do you just flash the lordmodV4.4.1-BFS-BFQ.zip file in recovery?
What do you do with lowervoltages-25.zip?
Thanks for the assistance this will be my first UV type kernel
Drew
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Wipe Cache and load the 2 .zip files just like a ROM. Hopefully you won't lose HSUPA like I did (I still think it was the radio swap but I refuse to try this again as it was a pain to fix).
Sounds good. Ill report back with my findings regarding the HSUPA and overall batt improvements.
Thanks
Drew
drewdatrip said:
Sounds good. Ill report back with my findings regarding the HSUPA and overall batt improvements.
Thanks
Drew
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I'll tell you the -50mV kernel mod froze the phone numerous times when opening an app to where I had to pull battery. The -25mV mod didn't help at all for my battery life. My phone drained same as always which is terrible but not great either.
drewdatrip said:
Can I get a little assistance? I read throughout the your thread and the one u linked. There are about 15 different kernals and UV zips
Thanks. Im really interested in trying this out
Drew
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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I'd say go with BFQhs CFS or the V(R) I/O flavor (edit: scratch that, looks like he pulled the VIO one until tomorrow), they're supposed to be faster than the others. The non-undervolted kernel might give you fine battery life so there's a possibility you won't need to undervolt at all. Also, flashing an undervolt patch is optional.
Unlike Mustang, my phone responded extremely well to the -25mV but seemed to go back to typical drain when I switched over to -50mV. And it seems like it's enjoying the Pinky ultra undervolt so far. Like LorDmod says, try them out and see what works.
Flashing the kernel's simple,
Do a backup
Reboot in to recovery
Clear /cache
Clear Dalvik cache
Install kernel zip
Install undervolt zip (optional)
Reboot and enjoy
This is just my experience - during extensive testing for my APN modification thread I ran multiple versions of lordmod and never lost HSUPA speeds from the kernel itself. Any loss of speeds were due to other issues which were identified and corrected.
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This is just my experience - during extensive testing for my APN modification thread I ran multiple versions of lordmod and never lost HSUPA speeds from the kernel itself. Any loss of speeds were due to other issues which were identified and corrected.
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Yeah like I said I'm 99.9% sure it was the change in radio that did me in but it just so happened to be just before flashing the kernel and I didn't notice till the next day I lost HSUPA. I personally will stick with stock CM7 kernel just because I messed with my own head lol.
I just flashed the kernal last night with the -25. HSUPA is still intact. Ill report back on Bat life
Drew
helushune said:
Unlike Mustang, my phone responded extremely well to the -25mV but seemed to go back to typical drain when I switched over to -50mV. And it seems like it's enjoying the Pinky ultra undervolt so far. Like LorDmod says, try them out and see what works.
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I have only tried -50mV with the latest LordMod which after 2 days is giving about same battery life as stock CM7 (about 20-24hr with moderate use). I cannot explain how -25mV gave you better battery life. I don't understand how much the other 2 version undervolts.
As a whole now tried OC/UV on both the Captivate and the Inspire, I have not noticed a significant difference in battery life with either of these phones. Also it seems like all the ROMs give me about the same battery life, and the whole thing about re-calibrate your battery if you don't flash with a full battery hasn't held up for me either. I can flash a new rom with 30% battery or 100% my battery drain remains unchanged.
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I have only tried -50mV with the latest LordMod which after 2 days is giving about same battery life as stock CM7 (about 20-24hr with moderate use). I cannot explain how -25mV gave you better battery life. I don't understand how much the other 2 version undervolts.
As a whole now tried OC/UV on both the Captivate and the Inspire, I have not noticed a significant difference in battery life with either of these phones. Also it seems like all the ROMs give me about the same battery life, and the whole thing about re-calibrate your battery if you don't flash with a full battery hasn't held up for me either. I can flash a new rom with 30% battery or 100% my battery drain remains unchanged.
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My experience mirrors yours. No matter where my battery is when I flash a ROM the drain remains the same. I've also done the whole wipe of battery stats and no difference either. It lasts me long enough as I charge it overnight anyways while I sleep so oh well I'm not too worried about it anymore really.
I recently removed the battery percent from the status bar. All I ended up doing was obsessing over it and had to see where it was all the time. So now I just use the gauge and feel better about the battery lol and not even focus on battery too much unless I'm away from my charger for an extended period of time.
I use lord mod 4.4 and I have hsupa. I never lost it.
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Mustang302LX said:
I'll tell you the -50mV kernel mod froze the phone numerous times when opening an app to where I had to pull battery. The -25mV mod didn't help at all for my battery life. My phone drained same as always which is terrible but not great either.
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That is because your device can't handle it, every device handles it differently.
As an example, my device handles UUV fine, but when attempting to use PUV it boots, but with any random reboots and application FCs.
NikolaiT said:
That is because your device can't handle it, every device handles it differently.
As an example, my device handles UUV fine, but when attempting to use PUV it boots, but with any random reboots and application FCs.
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Right which sucks cause I wanted to try the others lol. Oh well I guess.
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G running CyanogenMod 7 using Tapatalk.
gordec said:
I have only tried -50mV with the latest LordMod which after 2 days is giving about same battery life as stock CM7 (about 20-24hr with moderate use). I cannot explain how -25mV gave you better battery life. I don't understand how much the other 2 version undervolts.
As a whole now tried OC/UV on both the Captivate and the Inspire, I have not noticed a significant difference in battery life with either of these phones. Also it seems like all the ROMs give me about the same battery life, and the whole thing about re-calibrate your battery if you don't flash with a full battery hasn't held up for me either. I can flash a new rom with 30% battery or 100% my battery drain remains unchanged.
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Trust me, it makes absolutely no logical sense to me either. It seems to really like the PUV version as well so I'm not complaining.
For me, there is a noticeable difference between the stock kernel and undervolting. Stock CM7, my phone drains at around 3% per hour. Undervolted, it's slightly less than 1% per hour and possibly even better with PUV.
With the CFS BFQhs and -25 UV I got another hour and change. I feel like I used it the same maybe more. Im gonna try another one of his kernel and maybe the -50 or UUV see if NY device can hang with it.
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I am having terrible battery life. Before upgrading to CM7 I never noticed my battery life being bad. That said I have scoured the message boards trying every solution imaginable. I typically lose about 11% of battery every 90 minutes while the phone is in standby. This bad battery life started right when I installed CM7.
What I have tried:
-Installed System Panel and I don't have any rogue apps
-Factory data wipe, cache wipe, battery stats wipe (with and without), dalvik cache wipe -> then reinstall CM7.
-Battery has been bad on Alpha 1,2,6 & 7.
-Tried both suggestions on battery life in the CM7 Bible thread under Battery Issues section
-Upgraded to FAUX kernel Joe's RCU 0.2.0
-Changed CPU to max 1026 MHz.
I have waited 1-2 days before making each change and nothing has helped or hurt the battery.
I am very happy with CM7 with everything except the terrible battery life I am experiencing.
Use standard kernel without oc. It's really really good. Record us almost six days
sent from Sensation with awesome cm7!!!!
wixi909 said:
Use standard kernel without oc. It's really really good. Record us almost six days
sent from Sensation with awesome cm7!!!!
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I am using Faux kernel with super undervolt. Battery life is still horrible comparing to other roms. maybe I will try using the stock kernel.
jcalifornia, are you also experiencing bad battery life with stock cm7 kernel?
Have you tried a stock kernel, maybe GPU freq is running higher than stock.
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jcalifornia, are you also experiencing bad battery life with stock cm7 kernel?
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Yes, the bad battery life once I started using CM7. I used it for over 1 week.
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Have you tried a stock kernel, maybe GPU freq is running higher than stock.
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Yes, I tried the stock kernel for over 1 week and was experiencing bad battery life the entire time.
What was your battery voltage right before it went dead? I have a feeling that our phones (or just these HTC batteries) are cutting out long before they are truly dead. I notice mine drops out at 3.4v. The battery itself is usually protected from UV at 2.8v. I am waiting for my chichitec to die now so I can compare cutout voltage.
For the record, I was seeing 18-20 hours with CM7 and faux's kernels. 1.56Ghz
Since you have the issue on multiple ROMs/kernels, maybe your battery is bad/defective. Maybe T-mobile can send you a replacement under warranty? I'd call/chat with them to see. Worst they can say would be "no".
One other thing, you wouldn't happen to be using the performance governor?
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Since you have the issue on multiple ROMs/kernels, maybe your battery is bad/defective. Maybe T-mobile can send you a replacement under warranty? I'd call/chat with them to see. Worst they can say would be "no".
One other thing, you wouldn't happen to be using the performance governor?
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I thought the battery may be bad too, but I was getting great battery life before I went to CM7. Last night I did a "superwipe" and that seems to have fixed the problem. I am down to 71% after 9 hours when before the wipe I would be at ~25%.
I guess you had something hanging around from a previous ROM somewhere. Good luck!
try tiamat kernel + VIpermod undervolting. It helped me a lot
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try tiamat kernel + VIpermod undervolting. It helped me a lot
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I have been using Tiamat kernel and still getting bad battery life. I flashed Vipermod and when I run su -> vipermod from a terminal it says vipermod: not found.
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I have been using Tiamat kernel and still getting bad battery life. I flashed Vipermod and when I run su -> vipermod from a terminal it says vipermod: not found.
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Yea Tiamat helps a bit but the bad battery life of CM7 is still inevitable I guess.
For Vipermod: (from viperboy's faq page)
Q. I can't find vipermod in /system/bin after flashing in recovery! Where is it?
A. Well, I need to know this! Please contact me via email or post about this in the correct device thread on XDA. Due to the differences in devices and the commands they use to mount /system you may encounter an issue. Here is a workaround:
Manually place vipermod in /system/bin
Use a terminal app and type:
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chmod 0777 /system/bin/vipermod
vipermod
The script will then run. Please see my note in the previous question to make viperMOD easier to launch.
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or you can just use root explorer: extract the vipermod file from the zip, place it into /system/bin, change the file's permission manually, and you are good to go
I have tried every radio and my battery life is still bad. If I recall correctly I was also getting bad battery life until the late August OTA and then my battery was great. I think I am going to have to switch back to the stock ROM because the battery life I am getting with CM7 won't cut it.
Try using the app battery calibrator. Or go in your recovery menu and chose advance(I think) and chose clear battery stats. But do this when your battery is full
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187698
Good calibration guide, many have found that the calibration app isn't the only factor in calibrating. All it does is remove a file that Android recreates every boot.
alright when I use weapon 3 on stock kernel I get random reboots when I am not using it or I would have to pull out the battery in order to use it. I have done format system, data, cache, dalvik and then used g2x scrubber and I install it through my extrenal SD. tsugi on stock so far had no problems. I want to use weapon though because my battery life with tauting is horrible. with light use I can only use about 7 hours with set CPU lowering the clock and having it set to the lowest clock on screen off.
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alright when I use weapon 3 on stock kernel I get random reboots when I am not using it or I would have to pull out the battery in order to use it. I have done format system, data, cache, dalvik and then used g2x scrubber and I install it through my extrenal SD. tsugi on stock so far had no problems. I want to use weapon though.
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This is a known issue for G2x, it varies from phone to phone, and for rom to rom. Devs are working hard to reduce this, but trust me, they re not as bad as stock...
Sent from my G2X XDA app cuz I'm stalking your mom....
yes I do realize that custom roms are better than stock but my brother has weapon and his battery life is phenomenal! he can use his phone for 2 days and he isn't using any CPU optimizer or juice defender while I am using all those on tsugi rom and still only get about 7 hours of light use. iono maybe I am doing something wrong with tsugi rom?
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yes I do realize that custom roms are better than stock but my brother has weapon and his battery life is phenomenal! he can use his phone for 2 days and he isn't using any CPU optimizer or juice defender while I am using all those on tsugi rom and still only get about 7 hours of light use. iono maybe I am doing something wrong with tsugi rom?
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Setup your phone just like your brother's and swap fully charged batteries then give your phone to him to use and you use his (this is to try to have your phone tested under the same use as your brother uses his phone) to find out if the problem is the phone or the battery. If your brother's phone with your battery in it doesn't last as long or nearly as long as it did with his own battery in it, then it is definitely your battery. If, while your brother uses your phone with his battery in it, your phone doesn't last as long as his phone does with his battery in it, then it's your phone. Your phone should still be under warranty so, if you need to get service you will know what needs replacement.
Try phoenixblood rom with faux kernel, no reboots and great battery life!
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I'll +1 that for PhoenixBlood
plus: if you are having any stability issues, remove everything that might cause that, including CPU "optimizer" and Jdefender. They could conflict with the kernel. OTB PhoenixBlood is really great for speed and battery.
Also, if you've had previous problems, such as overheating, you may have damaged your battery. I'd first try running your brother's battery (with his permission), to see if that changes things. One rule to use is that you shouldn't change more than one variable at a time if you care to know what it is that fixed it. Changing ROMs, phones, batteries, SIMS and SD cards all at once will maybe fix the problem but it won't tell you what you did to fix it.
Maybe you're just undervolting too low? My phone can hardly handle it so I usually just don't mess with it.
Keep stock kernel.
thank you for all your replies. I have tried pheonix blood and liked it but even on stock or faux kernel I still get reboots. I did not download those extra applications either. so I am back on tsugi stock kernel and it has no reboots yet, but I found that if I enable the toggle 2g application that came with it and set the radio frequency to wcdma only, it increases the battery life by a lot. I can now go through the whole day with about 50 percent with light use. I do like pheonix or cm7 better though because I feel that it is going to keep updating for the better. also it seems customizable. I was wondering if there is a way to record when the phone experienced a reboot or sod to a log so I can find out why?
Ok for some mods my thread maybe annoying as these kind of things has been asked before but I want to share my device specifics with some of the experts here so that they can help me. Maybe others can post their device specifics on this thread too in order to get help
My G2X : 1.25 months old (my first android )
Carrier : WIND Mobile Canada
Tried Roms for maximum performance --- I am still on testing phase for this cell phone. once i get to the optimal setting then I will give it a rest and use it normally
2.2 Froyo Stock WIND --- Too Old
2.3.3 (V21e Stock - TMobile ) --- Too plain
2.3.4 (v21y stock - TMobile) --- took a headache to get upgraded on Windows 7 after that something odd happened. 1 Hour of temple run got me to 5% battery straight from approx 80%. Thought March 2012 baseband was the culprit moved to Weapon G2x with July 15 kernel (note: never moved back to June 5 the original WIND kernel till now)
2.3.3 (Weapon G2x Latest + Faux Kernel) --- Best Rom for stability and battery life ....BUT ..... stock browser kept on crashing without any reason and also some greed for CM7 tweaks ... moved to CM7.2 latest nightlies (dun remember which one)
2.3.7 (CM7.2 RC) ---- was OK with faux kernel i got 6 hours straight battery time on WiFi (using Skype, Playing Games, Voice calls, Texting, Browsing, Sync On constantly .... i.e 6 hours straight awake and screen on) --- got stability issues so I moved to CM7.2 stable
2.3.7 (CM7.2 stable) --- had to upgrade the baseband again to March 2012 with the Temple Run mishap in mind ..... so then searched XDA ... found Trinity ... searched more ... found the last 6 Feb 2012 kernel for GB ELP .... flashed it and got the battery timing up to 9 from 6 hours also Heavy gaming is Lagless (GTA 3 , Modern Combat)... Loved it (though i was having flash distorted streaming issues) ....anyway thought i found the combination ... used it for few days..... Till
I have WiFi at home n work so I am mostly on Wifi thats why on my initial tests I forgot about the difference in battery timings on WiFi and HSPA ... One time out of the house visiting someone. I tested my combination on HSPA ... damn got less than 5.... just maybe 4 hours of straight awake battery timing while only constant browsing and texting and Sync On. Is that what I am gonna get with G2X? What if I am on the move while texting or browsing or using GPS (I haven't even turned on the GPS) 4 hours of awake screen on battery timing while only browsing is too low. so I searched more and moved to EB last GB release
2.3.7 (EB Latest .. possibly based on CM7.2 RC) ... feels fast .. mainly due to app drawer opening too quickly ....also tried GTA ... somewhat lagless ... ran my test of constant browsing on HSPA and some texting and Sync On ... got me still somewhat 4-5 hours of battery moved to HFP 2.2
NOW - 2.3.7 (HFP 2.2 based on CM7.2 Stable) .... installed V6 Super charger ... got battery timing of 4.5 hours with the above test.....(ALSO THERE IS A PROBLEM.... I AM GETTING A BATTERY DRAIN APPROX 5-10% /HOUR WHILE SCREEN OFF AND SYNC ON ON DATA... AND THAT WASN'T A CASE WITH WIFI ON CM7.2 NIGHTLIY) removed V6 and now calibrating battery. I have another app CPUSleep in my arsenal to test but I am waiting till i get the right combination ... i'll use it as a bonus.... if calibration doesn't work my plans are to switch kernels and test and after that downgrading to the old baseband and test...
now all of the above was typed so that the experts would know how far I have gone so they won't ask me to repeat anything that is already done above ... NOW MY QUSTIONS ARE :
1. I heard on some post on XDA that lower voltage on heavy usage tends to drain battery faster. Since I am using Trinity ELP which has lower voltage values by default as compared to Faux's kernel. Is this really possible that lower voltage kernel drain battery faster?
2. I am extremely skeptical about the baseband thing. Mainly because I am sure it should have an effect on battery timing too and also because since I am a WIND user and stock baseband was June 5 2011 and now I am on T-Mobile March 2012. Could the different baseband for different carrier may have some effect on battery timing while using on different network? What about RIL? Upgrading to HFP 2.2 on latest baseband i had a RIL mismatch .why should I upgarde RIL? Does RIL mismatch/match has an effect on battery timing?
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Ok for some mods my thread maybe annoying as these kind of things has been asked before but I want to share my device specifics with some of the experts here so that they can help me. Maybe others can post their device specifics on this thread too in order to get help
My G2X : 1.25 months old (my first android )
Carrier : WIND Mobile Canada
Tried Roms for maximum performance --- I am still on testing phase for this cell phone. once i get to the optimal setting then I will give it a rest and use it normally
2.2 Froyo Stock WIND --- Too Old
2.3.3 (V21e Stock - TMobile ) --- Too plain
2.3.4 (v21y stock - TMobile) --- took a headache to get upgraded on Windows 7 after that something odd happened. 1 Hour of temple run got me to 5% battery straight from approx 80%. Thought March 2012 baseband was the culprit moved to Weapon G2x with July 15 kernel (note: never moved back to June 5 the original WIND kernel till now)
2.3.3 (Weapon G2x Latest + Faux Kernel) --- Best Rom for stability and battery life ....BUT ..... stock browser kept on crashing without any reason and also some greed for CM7 tweaks ... moved to CM7.2 latest nightlies (dun remember which one)
2.3.7 (CM7.2 RC) ---- was OK with faux kernel i got 6 hours straight battery time on WiFi (using Skype, Playing Games, Voice calls, Texting, Browsing, Sync On constantly .... i.e 6 hours straight awake and screen on) --- got stability issues so I moved to CM7.2 stable
2.3.7 (CM7.2 stable) --- had to upgrade the baseband again to March 2012 with the Temple Run mishap in mind ..... so then searched XDA ... found Trinity ... searched more ... found the last 6 Feb 2012 kernel for GB ELP .... flashed it and got the battery timing up to 9 from 6 hours also Heavy gaming is Lagless (GTA 3 , Modern Combat)... Loved it (though i was having flash distorted streaming issues) ....anyway thought i found the combination ... used it for few days..... Till
I have WiFi at home n work so I am mostly on Wifi thats why on my initial tests I forgot about the difference in battery timings on WiFi and HSPA ... One time out of the house visiting someone. I tested my combination on HSPA ... damn got less than 5.... just maybe 4 hours of straight awake battery timing while only constant browsing and texting and Sync On. Is that what I am gonna get with G2X? What if I am on the move while texting or browsing or using GPS (I haven't even turned on the GPS) 4 hours of awake screen on battery timing while only browsing is too low. so I searched more and moved to EB last GB release
2.3.7 (EB Latest .. possibly based on CM7.2 RC) ... feels fast .. mainly due to app drawer opening too quickly ....also tried GTA ... somewhat lagless ... ran my test of constant browsing on HSPA and some texting and Sync On ... got me still somewhat 4-5 hours of battery moved to HFP 2.2
NOW - 2.3.7 (HFP 2.2 based on CM7.2 Stable) .... installed V6 Super charger ... got battery timing of 4.5 hours with the above test.....(ALSO THERE IS A PROBLEM.... I AM GETTING A BATTERY DRAIN APPROX 5-10% /HOUR WHILE SCREEN OFF AND SYNC ON ON DATA... AND THAT WASN'T A CASE WITH WIFI ON CM7.2 NIGHTLIY) removed V6 and now calibrating battery. I have another app CPUSleep in my arsenal to test but I am waiting till i get the right combination ... i'll use it as a bonus.... if calibration doesn't work my plans are to switch kernels and test and after that downgrading to the old baseband and test...
now all of the above was typed so that the experts would know how far I have gone so they won't ask me to repeat anything that is already done above ... NOW MY QUSTIONS ARE :
1. I heard on some post on XDA that lower voltage on heavy usage tends to drain battery faster. Since I am using Trinity ELP which has lower voltage values by default as compared to Faux's kernel. Is this really possible that lower voltage kernel drain battery faster?
2. I am extremely skeptical about the baseband thing. Mainly because I am sure it should have an effect on battery timing too and also because since I am a WIND user and stock baseband was June 5 2011 and now I am on T-Mobile March 2012. Could the different baseband for different carrier may have some effect on battery timing while using on different network? What about RIL? Upgrading to HFP 2.2 on latest baseband i had a RIL mismatch .why should I upgarde RIL? Does RIL mismatch/match has an effect on battery timing?
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Well for one use getril and update the RIL to 21y I find I get a tiny bit better signal quality... And some cpus can't handle drastic undervolt and actually will consume more power and get hotter which uses more power also... This is a good guide for undervolting I'd go with faux or trinity t15 and use the guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558080.... And lastly the new baseband really isn't a huge difference in battery life its more about signal strength and gps lock times...
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Well for one use getril and update the RIL to 21y I find I get a tiny bit better signal quality... And some cpus can't handle drastic undervolt and actually will consume more power and get hotter which uses more power also... This is a good guide for undervolting I'd go with faux or trinity t15 and use the guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558080.... And lastly the new baseband really isn't a huge difference in battery life its more about signal strength and gps lock times...
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Thanks for the reply. I thought I wont get one due to that very long post... anyway
Ok I will update the RIL .... but part of my question is still unanswered. U see June 5 2011 baseband was stock on Wind froyo 2.2 but on others like videotron March 2011 was inside stock froyo .... so the way a baseband works are they carrier specifics or not? Or just Band/Frequency specific?
I haven't undervolted Trinity ELP myself since I am afraid of it getting fried I just left it on default values and had surprisingly good results with constant WiFi 8 to 9 hours constant usage. Its just that on HSPA the battery is draining quickly not to mention HSPA+ . And yes my cell is getting more warm to hot as compared to when used with WiFi. Is it possible that Trinity ELP values are too low for HSPA. Making it hotter and draining battery faster. Should I increase the voltage on ELP? M right now in calibrating process. Will update u more on that.
ELP kernel is set really low already and is too low for some phone best way is to use t15 and find your sweet spot..As for the BB I'm not to knowledgeable about wind but know you can use the new bb on it with no issues
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The baseband is just firmware for your radio. It doesn't affect game performance at all.
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redmonke255 said:
The baseband is just firmware for your radio. It doesn't affect game performance at all.
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I haven't said anything about game performance. I said the battery drained when playing temple run from 80 to 5%.
DJLamontagneIII said:
ELP kernel is set really low already and is too low for some phone best way is to use t15 and find your sweet spot..As for the BB I'm not to knowledgeable about wind but know you can use the new bb on it with no issues
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Ok thanks. I'll do that and get back to u once I have finished calibrating my battery. Can u tell me what is the best way of calibrating g2x battery. I have tried zapplinrox die hard battery calibrator but I need to know if it can be used on g2x. And if it can be. Then how? The thing is that approximate battery showing on the script is different than the actual.
n30wav3 said:
Ok thanks. I'll do that and get back to u once I have finished calibrating my battery. Can u tell me what is the best way of calibrating g2x battery. I have tried zapplinrox die hard battery calibrator but I need to know if it can be used on g2x. And if it can be. Then how? The thing is that approximate battery showing on the script is different than the actual.
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There's conflicting reports on scripts like those on g2x
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Calibration for a battery for the sake of making it better is just a myth. It's only beneficial when charging a new battery.
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DJLamontagneIII said:
There's conflicting reports on scripts like those on g2x
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Hmm... yes I haven't saw any difference with V6 Supercharger even though It is said on HFP 2.2 OP that it works. I just used the die hard calibrator to see the actual current of the device. Now it says you need to be on 4200 mv in order to start calibration. Although I tried very hard and couldn't get passed to 4190mv. Anything I do after that (e.g turning the screen on reduces the battery). I have also installed Battery Calibration by NeMa referenced on the g2x forum here somewhere. It is said on that app and told by some devs that due to frequent changing of roms and kernels, battery values and may get mixed up since we don't wipe the battery stats while flashing through CWM.
cricketAC said:
Calibration for a battery for the sake of making it better is just a myth. It's only beneficial when charging a new battery.
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Initially I thought that too. But what about the difference in the approximate % of battery left. Like when my battery was 100% the script and the above mentioned tool said it is about 4185mV which is approx 98% and that it needs to be 4200mV to be 100% and after my battery got 0% on stats (in just 9 hours with hardly using the phone just sync ON) the script shows there is still some juice left . approx 30%
And you know what . when the battery got to 100% on 4185mV. I del the battery stats and thats how I pushed it to 4190mV as I know Li-ion automatically stops charging once the battery is full. I am thinking of removing the battery stats again before it reaches 0 to see whether the device still works as the script says there is juice left. If there isn't then of course the device will turn off automatically and I can declare that script flawed for g2x once and for all.
Are you using the original kernel from hfp2.2 it has the ds version of fauxs kernel so the battery Readings are not correct at all.. If so flash a kernel with the cm battery driver like trinity or faux cm version
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I haven't said anything about game performance. I said the battery drained when playing temple run from 80 to 5%.
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But that doesn't have anything to do with the baseband, is what I'm saying.
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DJLamontagneIII said:
Are you using the original kernel from hfp2.2 it has the ds version of fauxs kernel so the battery Readings are not correct at all.. If so flash a kernel with the cm battery driver like trinity or faux cm version
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Nope... using ELP 06022012 from
http://www.derkernel.com/gb-p999-exp.html
redmonke255 said:
But that doesn't have anything to do with the baseband, is what I'm saying.
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Temple run was just an example. What I meant there was that I thought baseband has a direct or indirect effect on battery timing when using phone rather moderately with Data
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Hey DJLamontagneIII ... I just installed T15 Trinity. still not feeling good about battery drain. M gonna try Faux's . Which one exactly should I go for? I am asking that since I can't find UV kernel for 050 CM. Should I go for SV 050 CM? or is it possible to install 013 GB as on the OP it says it supports EaglesBlood. m not sure how as EB is CM7 based. m using HFP 2.2 as told earlier
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Hey DJLamontagneIII ... I just installed T15 Trinity. still not feeling good about battery drain. M gonna try Faux's . Which one exactly should I go for? I am asking that since I can't find UV kernel for 050 CM. Should I go for SV 050 CM? or is it possible to install 013 GB as on the OP it says it supports EaglesBlood. m not sure how as EB is CM7 based. m using HFP 2.2 as told earlier
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http://faux.androidro.ms/Use 049 or 050.... 013 is for stock GB which EB had a long time ago.. With these a d t15 you have to UV with SetCpu or similar app... Follow that guide I posted earlier
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Thanks .... installed 050 with the expectation of getting overheated as reported by many users. BUT ... it works perfectly .. slightly warm when charging but Perfect ... I compared its voltage values with T15 . Faux's are much more lower... still the device is working exactly how it should. I haven't OC it yet as it is performing much nicer and swiftly even on stock clock while gaming and using the phone normally. I know overclocking will get a decrease in battery timing right now as it is SV. so I will use your guide to UV it myself.
As for the battery calibration thing. I just came across a post saying a google engineer bunked the myth of calibration since most calibration script/apps just remove the battery stats file which does nothing except resetting the used stats. It doesn't have any effect on battery memory etc... That's why i removed the better battery stats app and installed CPU Spy as I think the frequent root access by better battery stats may also cause partial wakelocks or maybe m mistaken. Anyway if I found something fishy on CPU Spy. I will reinstall the better battery stats app to investigate. Now last but not least the CPU Sleep app I mentioned as bonus. While it is a nice app it's useless on Faux's kernel as he has already implemented that on 050.
Anyone reading my thread want a stable all round gingerbread and kernel combo. My suggestion would be to first go for HFP2.2 and Faux's 050 stable combination over CM7.2 latest nightlies as HFP2.2 is based on CM7.2 stable while the (should I say stock) CM7.2 nightlies still have that flash streaming problem (Till date). Also the video camera in HFP2.2 is awesome not to mention the newly added ICS launcher interface.
Mods can now close this thread if they want to or leave it open for others seeking maximum performance out of their specific g2x device. Thank You everyone.
Glad you got is sorted see how different devices are I get sods wile charging overnight with 050 stable.... And just to clarify hfp2.2 is based on CM7.2 RC2 not stable so it's a little behind the nightlys or really weeklys
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Glad you got is sorted see how different devices are I get sods wile charging overnight with 050 stable.... And just to clarify hfp2.2 is based on CM7.2 RC2 not stable so it's a little behind the nightlys or really weeklys
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Ok..... getting the SOD now what do u recommend? 48 stable or 49betas. As I can't find 49 stable. Also does these have 1 processor sleeps and 500MHz limit when screen is off like 050 or do I have to do both of these things externally?
Hi, ive been searching trough isc roms and kernels trying to find one with a good battery life, but there isnt, they all talk about customizations, power, performance but not about battery life. I flashed CM9 with its own kernel and its nice, but it got crashed some times when i was websurffing and the battery life gets like 13hrs of standby and 3 hrs of usage (wifi, network, display), so i went back to GB stock. im not sure if its an isc problem or just becuase of CM. Well id like to know if there´s an ICS rom or kernel that gives me atleast 24hrs of standby and a good stability.
And what about the CM9 crashes?, its isc´s bugs?
Im wating for a JB release, as it seems to be bettter than ICS. Thanks for reading , and sorry for this questions, is just that xda is the best place to find information as im a newbie in android c:
try the hefe kernal or one of the newer ones posted by team Fahq. Might help with stability.
Then flash the battery mod posted by itzik2sh. That made a very noticeable difference for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1985073
I was running ultragen with hefe kernel+itzik2sh's battery mod and was getting very very good battery life and the phone was stable.
Also changing the governor to SmartAssV2 can result in great battery life, even if my phone is clocked to 1.2 or 1.4 GHz.
But if you do not understand overclocking, do not try it, I read a couple articles before I actually OC'ed my phone.
If you want performance and battery life pertaining to kernel, you can try Hefe or Lightning Zap.
Other than that, you can try tweaks around OUR forums and see the results. You can also install Pimp My Rom to install tweaks.
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Also changing the governor to SmartAssV2 can result in great battery life, even if my phone is clocked to 1.2 or 1.4 GHz.
But if you do not understand overclocking, do not try it, I read a couple articles before I actually OC'ed my phone.
If you want performance and battery life pertaining to kernel, you can try Hefe or Lightning Zap.
Other than that, you can try tweaks around OUR forums and see the results. You can also install Pimp My Rom to install tweaks.
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, dont worry about overclock, i know all the risks and even CM9 from team acid gives you that option. But just let me know man, what is a governor?, never heard about that, and how much time you got of battery with that?
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, dont worry about overclock, i know all the risks and even CM9 from team acid gives you that option. But just let me know man, what is a governor?, never heard about that, and how much time you got of battery with that?
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This thing called google brought me to a link to explain governors, so I thought I was paste it for you, even though in the time to type in your question you could googled it yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005306
As to say how much battery life? Doing what? On standby? With the screen on full brightness playing GTA? Connected to data all the time?
There is no answer to that, because everyone uses the phone differently. Obviously if I say I get 2 days out of my phone and someone else gets 2 hours, maybe I only sent 15 txt messages and they watched HD Youtube off data for 2 hours while their GPS was on.
Wifi and GPS use a lot of battery when always leave on. Turn it off when u don't need it. Hefe kernel seems to help with the battery drainage issue.
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This thing called google brought me to a link to explain governors, so I thought I was paste it for you, even though in the time to type in your question you could googled it yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005306
As to say how much battery life? Doing what? On standby? With the screen on full brightness playing GTA? Connected to data all the time?
There is no answer to that, because everyone uses the phone differently. Obviously if I say I get 2 days out of my phone and someone else gets 2 hours, maybe I only sent 15 txt messages and they watched HD Youtube off data for 2 hours while their GPS was on.
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Dont get mad man. About the search, ive done that, but here i can find a better and smaller answer. And about the battery,as you suere read in my first post upside i was saying in standby and a light use, and how much it lasted for me (a very short timefor a new battery). Anyways, thanks for the link .
And thanks mike y, Ill try out your combination.
I'm currently on UltraGen with Hefe-KOD kernel. Great battery life with good performance. Attached screen shots is with lite usage. Came from AOKP Milestone 6 latest build. Great battery life as well. Will probably go back to AOKP in a few days.
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I'm currently on UltraGen with Hefe-KOD kernel. Great battery life with good performance. Attached screen shots is with lite usage. Came from AOKP Milestone 6 latest build. Great battery life as well. Will probably go back to AOKP in a few days.
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Thats a really great battery life . I have another question, that battery life is because Hefe Kernel or Ultragen?
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Thats a really great battery life . I have another question, that battery life is because Hefe Kernel or Ultragen?
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That battery life is because he doesn't use his phone.
Ive noticed of that, but even when I was on CM9 i got only 15 hrs on standby, either way, what thing really provides that battery life?, Ultragen or Hefe kernel?