Plz help guys: i've got an inspire 4g & was using the 8g card provided with the device but bought i 16g. I don't have my laptop now so i had to save a few files to internal sd, pop the 16g & copy the files to the card, put the 8g back in, copied some more & did it all again. W/O a cpu i didn't know how else to do it. I used CM7, Absolution, MIUI, VU & never formatted or partitioned my card but i want to on this 16g card, i want ext4 but have no clue how to go about it. Should i have done that before i copied all my data from my 8g to 16? Can someone plz do me the favor of helping me out and/or explain what fomatting does & how tr partition. I will transfer my data the slow way again using root explorer if i have to, i just want ext 4 or is it really necessary? Alot of ROMS are going to it even tho it's a little overkill for a phone. Thanks for any help friends :']
HTCinspiration said:
Plz help guys: i've got an inspire 4g & was using the 8g card provided with the device but bought i 16g. I don't have my laptop now so i had to save a few files to internal sd, pop the 16g & copy the files to the card, put the 8g back in, copied some more & did it all again. W/O a cpu i didn't know how else to do it. I used CM7, Absolution, MIUI, VU & never formatted or partitioned my card but i want to on this 16g card, i want ext4 but have no clue how to go about it. Should i have done that before i copied all my data from my 8g to 16? Can someone plz do me the favor of helping me out and/or explain what fomatting does & how tr partition. I will transfer my data the slow way again using root explorer if i have to, i just want ext 4 or is it really necessary? Alot of ROMS are going to it even tho it's a little overkill for a phone. Thanks for any help friends :']
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geez thats dedication lol! As for going to EXT4, I don't believe it's necessary for all roms, many support both EXT4 and EXT3. I know it used to be a widely covered thing in the changelogs and OPs of ROM threads but lately they've been vanishing. This next bit you must understand is typically what I do before flashing a ROM and I don't believe it touches anything on your SD card but just be cautious if you have anything you really need on the SD card when doing this. I know ARHD's superwipe (found in the ARHD thread) will format everything to EXT4. There is also a full wipe 1.5 (search full wipe 1.5 and you should find the thread) that also formats you to EXT4..Again, be aware this will wipe your phone, I don't think your SD card but will wipe phone and require the flashing of a ROM afterwards. There is probably an easier way to do it but like I said I use the full wipe 1.5 before full wiping and flashing a new rom so my stuff is always EXT 4. hope that helps!
Thank u so much so using the superwipe 1.5 i shouldn't lose anything on my sd card? And i've got a good backup of my ROM if it does wipe my phone so i can just restore my backup, right? But i've also read that partitioning will wipe the sd, is that correct? I've got a junk 1g card i'm tempted to test it out on so i can see what happens in the process. Thank u buddy
Ok, so if do i have to do anything to go to ext4 or will i automatically be using ext4 file system if the ROM I'm flashing is ext4?
HTCinspiration said:
Thank u so much so using the superwipe 1.5 i shouldn't lose anything on my sd card? And i've got a good backup of my ROM if it does wipe my phone so i can just restore my backup, right? But i've also read that partitioning will wipe the sd, is that correct? I've got a junk 1g card i'm tempted to test it out on so i can see what happens in the process. Thank u buddy
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The 1.5 full wipe will wipe the entire phone, it's not the end all wipe you should use when full wiping but it will give you the EXT4 formatting that you want. I use the 1.5 full wipe then I wipe data, cache, dalvik cache and battery stats before I flash a new rom. In principle, yeah everything on your SD card should be safe since I typically delete everything but my photos and back-ups off my SD card before wiping and it's all there afterwards so you should be safe in that regard. I don't goof around with partitions though so someone else who is more comfortable it going to have to chime in here.
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Hey guys,
Seeing how cyanogenmod and Super D kinda use the same guts to an extent, I flashed Super D 1.10.* over Cyanogenmod 4.1.15.1 without a wipe and it's running fine. Is this something I'm going to regret later and should wipe and reflash, or is it a non issue?
Also I'm looking to upgrade to a larger (posibly faster) microSD card. What is the best way of doing this without losing any data/apps? Would it be nand+ext backup from recovery, then partition new microSD same way, and drag over nand+ext file and restore? Or is it going to be a two step process, of partitioning and reflashing new microSD, and using a third party app like mybackup to restore apps?
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If it's not broken now, it's probably fine. If you run into problems though, do the wipe.
As for the SD, I use a Linux boot CD (Ubuntu Installer CD) to partition and copy the SD contents. I just used 2 SD readers and copied directly between the cards. It worked very well for me and the phone didn't know the difference. Doing a nand+ext, partitioning the new card, then restoring would likely work for apps and such, but /sdcard (the FAT32 partition) won't be restored. You can use just about anything to copy that partition though.
thanks man. gonna go get new microSD today. I hear sandisk is best quality for accuracy in class claims. any other suggestions? people always tell me microSD's over ebay from generic manufacturers in china rarely match their advertised class ranking. Any one agree that notion?
shawndaivari said:
Hey guys,
Seeing how cyanogenmod and Super D kinda use the same guts to an extent, I flashed Super D 1.10.* over Cyanogenmod 4.1.15.1 without a wipe and it's running fine. Is this something I'm going to regret later and should wipe and reflash, or is it a non issue?
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Holy crap.. it worked! Thanks for posting that you tried it w/success. I just flashed Super D's 1.10.3 w/out any issue.
Now to mess around with Super D for the 1st time
remind me how this is android development
Well part of developing is finding out different ways to do things, so he found a compatibility. Good enough?
Flashin cyan over superD isnt suprising since its basically a themed rom to flash over the rooted defanged roms
Same TREE branch
in theory any rom based off Cyanogen's git tree would flash over CM just fine
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shawndaivari said:
Hey guys,
Seeing how cyanogenmod and Super D kinda use the same guts to an extent, I flashed Super D 1.10.* over Cyanogenmod 4.1.15.1 without a wipe and it's running fine. Is this something I'm going to regret later and should wipe and reflash, or is it a non issue?
Also I'm looking to upgrade to a larger (posibly faster) microSD card. What is the best way of doing this without losing any data/apps? Would it be nand+ext backup from recovery, then partition new microSD same way, and drag over nand+ext file and restore? Or is it going to be a two step process, of partitioning and reflashing new microSD, and using a third party app like mybackup to restore apps?
thanks
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The best way for me is to turn off the phone, put new SD in and if your have RA-amon's recovery you can partition with that, and then toggle USB. Plug your old SD into your computer with SD-reader or the like, I use a USB-reader. Then you copy old SD to new. Remember once you partition your card it becomes the life of your phone, your apps are stored in your partition. So' everthing that was on the old card needs to copied to the new one or your going to have problems. Nandroid backs up your rom state, not your SD. As for SD's I would go with kingston, I've tried quite a few and kingston's have never let me down. Trust me I've been with this root thing from the beginning, when we rooted through Telnet and partition from console in recovery and ADB. I've root over 20 phones. I just rooted my moms Samsung Moment. Follow instuctions and you don't have problems. I would'nt make a habit of flashing without a wipe, I wipe data, dalvik and ext, just to be safe. Use Backup for root users, and then you can restore on your new rom, so you don't have to go through installing all your apps.
shawndaivari said:
Hey guys,
Seeing how cyanogenmod and Super D kinda use the same guts to an extent, I flashed Super D 1.10.* over Cyanogenmod 4.1.15.1 without a wipe and it's running fine. Is this something I'm going to regret later and should wipe and reflash, or is it a non issue?
Also I'm looking to upgrade to a larger (posibly faster) microSD card. What is the best way of doing this without losing any data/apps? Would it be nand+ext backup from recovery, then partition new microSD same way, and drag over nand+ext file and restore? Or is it going to be a two step process, of partitioning and reflashing new microSD, and using a third party app like mybackup to restore apps?
thanks
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wait wait wait...your tellin' me...we can flash superD over cyanogen without doin; the whole partition thing!...without any problems? or do i have to do all that before?...
hi all, i have a rooted htc aria running froyo 2.2.ive got a new 16g card coming. i would like to partition. ive read way too much info on doing this, that im now totally confused! i cant figure out what steps this should be done in. ive got everything backed up. im not sure what program to use for the partitioning. have read not to use rom manager. im not sure about how many partitions i should have. after i copy my card contents to pc, where do they go when i copy them back? i just really need someone kind enough to walk me thru this. i have adhd and need specific instructions......thanx
chowceal said:
hi all, i have a rooted htc aria running froyo 2.2.ive got a new 16g card coming. i would like to partition. ive read way too much info on doing this, that im now totally confused! i cant figure out what steps this should be done in. ive got everything backed up. im not sure what program to use for the partitioning. have read not to use rom manager. im not sure about how many partitions i should have. after i copy my card contents to pc, where do they go when i copy them back? i just really need someone kind enough to walk me thru this. i have adhd and need specific instructions......thanx
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Why do you need to partition buddy? Do you want multiple internal storages, or another reason? I may be able to help here with just a little more info.
i would like to partition the micro card.ive read that its better to have it partitioned?
chowceal said:
i would like to partition the micro card.ive read that its better to have it partitioned?
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In some cases, putting a separate partition on your SD card and formatting to etx3 can be beneficial, especially with the Galaxy S devices. In day-to-day use with others phones though, you'll benefit far more from the extra storage than having multiple partitions. Do you have a Galaxy S mate?
i have a htc aria.
chowceal said:
i have a htc aria.
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I found this for you, from the Aria forum:
To Enable A2SD:
Backup your applications
Backup your sdcard
Partition your sdcard with ROM Manager with an ext partition option. (ROM manager is in Market)
This should start a special mode of clockwork recovery, which will partition the sdcard.
That's the only reason you'd want to partition your card, so that if you're running out of memory you can move some of your apps to the SD card. ROM Manager is very easy to use, but I'll be here if you need me Good luck!
juzz86 said:
I found this for you, from the Aria forum:
To Enable A2SD:
Backup your applications
Backup your sdcard
Partition your sdcard with ROM Manager with an ext partition option. (ROM manager is in Market)
This should start a special mode of clockwork recovery, which will partition the sdcard.
That's the only reason you'd want to partition your card, so that if you're running out of memory you can move some of your apps to the SD card. ROM Manager is very easy to use, but I'll be here if you need me Good luck!
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To follow onto this question. 1st time droid user, limited linux knowledge. I am running 2.2 on a brand new optimus t(mobile). I plan on rooting using z4root and flashing ROM (maybe megatron). Sdcard new (unused) only thing I have done with the phone is install a bunch of apps (which I can replace) and load my contact/gmail account.
I notice that my phone indicates 143kb internal available, so I assume I will have space limitations soon. It is my understanding that one of the benefits or rooting and putting on custom rom is the ability to have your phone recognize portions of the sd card as internal memory and, thus, "create" more internal space.
Considering my phone and my desire, can I go through the process of 1) rooting (z4root) 2) backup (custom recovery) 3) flash new rom/kernal 4) dump back up from sdcard onto PC via card reader 5) Use your above method to partition card?
Any suggestions/advice would be greatly appreciated, including partition types/sizes, process, procedure....or just tell me if I am an idiot and am way off base.
Thanks a lot
I always see IC roms looking for an ext-4 partition during installation. I never made one. Everything works fine, is that just to make apps moved to the SD faster, or? Basically wondering if I should do this and if so if any steps are needed other than using gparted or somesuch and wiping and reinstalling the ROM.
I appreciate your kind replies to my n00b question. I only ever made special SD partitions pre-froyo or to lag fix the SGS1.
Sinjara said:
I always see IC roms looking for an ext-4 partition during installation. I never made one. Everything works fine, is that just to make apps moved to the SD faster, or? Basically wondering if I should do this and if so if any steps are needed other than using gparted or somesuch and wiping and reinstalling the ROM.
I appreciate your kind replies to my n00b question. I only ever made special SD partitions pre-froyo or to lag fix the SGS1.
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You don't need to do anything. It is formatting the phone memory to ext4. Don't need to make ext4 on your SD card.
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I would like to know a couple of things...
1. Internal phone storage & phone memory, what is the difference and is there any mods people are doing with them as far as combining or something?
2. SD partitioning... are people still doing this and if so what are you recommending?
3. Swap... probably a thing of the past, but just would like to know.
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Faux stock kernels
Clockwork EXT4
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internal storage, is basically yours to use, add your music pics or whatever, just like how u use an sd card, phone memory aka application memory is reserved for apps only, no way of combining them, dont need to anyways, sd partitioning i never tried but i think its says it all, dividing your sd card into two or more partitions..make seem like you have two or more, u can reserve one just for music or pics or roms
and what do u mean by swap??
ooh yah if i helped a little hit the thxs button, imma collect now too lol
I came from from the G1 where it was standard practice to partition into fat32/ext/swap. Since moving to the G2x I have not needed it. Phone is super fast without swap and more than enough space for apps.
As for combining internal and external SD cards, I don't think I've seen that yet...
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I've never seen them combined but don't know if you can because if you remove the microsd, it would get all screwy.
I don't even use internal unless the rom does. I have a collection of apks/walls/music and my titanium files on my SD... everything else is expendable.
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I've never seen them combined but don't know if you can because if you remove the microsd, it would get all screwy.
I don't even use internal unless the rom does. I have a collection of apks/walls/music and my titanium files on my SD... everything else is expendable.
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and with those on the SD are you using them just anywhere on the SD or do you have an EXT 4 partition?
dylyxcore said:
Yes, I have searched; don't give me the whole guilt crap
I would like to know a couple of things...
1. Internal phone storage & phone memory, what is the difference and is there any mods people are doing with them as far as combining or something?
2. SD partitioning... are people still doing this and if so what are you recommending?
3. Swap... probably a thing of the past, but just would like to know.
Class 4 32gb
Running Weapon G2X
Faux stock kernels
Clockwork EXT4
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Internal phone storage is where your system files are stored. It is also where apps from the market are installed. Phone memory is utilized by the stock roms as the default "sdcard". By default this is where your photos, music, documents, etc are stored. There is also an external slot for a physical sdcard. This is actually mounted to /sdcard/_ExternalSD with a stock rom.
There is no need to partition the external sdcard. There is enough space on the phone by default and it probably wouldn't be worth the hassle to make it work.
I don't think you need swap with this phone.
phburks said:
Internal phone storage is where your system files are stored. It is also where apps from the market are installed. Phone memory is utilized by the stock roms as the default "sdcard". By default this is where your photos, music, documents, etc are stored. There is also an external slot for a physical sdcard. This is actually mounted to /sdcard/_ExternalSD with a stock rom.
There is no need to partition the external sdcard. There is enough space on the phone by default and it probably wouldn't be worth the hassle to make it work.
I don't think you need swap with this phone.
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Thank you for clearing this up, so in clockwork recovery why does it support EXT 4? Is that just the format it saves a back-up in?
dylyxcore said:
Thank you for clearing this up, so in clockwork recovery why does it support EXT 4? Is that just the format it saves a back-up in?
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No. Ext4 is a type of filesystem used commonly in Linux, just like FAT and NTFS are used with Windows setups. There are some roms that will mount your system as, or even fully format your system into a ext4 filesystem. Clockwork supports that filesystem, meaning it can be used to install ext4 roms.
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No. Ext4 is a type of filesystem used commonly in Linux, just like FAT and NTFS are used with Windows setups. There are some roms that will mount your system as, or even fully format your system into a ext4 filesystem. Clockwork supports that filesystem, meaning it can be used to install ext4 roms.
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Thank you for your help, one last thing... to run these do you need an EXT 4 partition, or is that completely different? What makes the ROM to be EXT 4?
dylyxcore said:
Thank you for your help, one last thing... to run these do you need an EXT 4 partition, or is that completely different? What makes the ROM to be EXT 4?
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No you simply flash like you would any other rom. If the rom actually formats your drives to ext4 i beleive you will have convert back to ext3 in order to flash an ext3 rom. There is a conversion utility somewhere on here if you search around. Someone else wanna chime in to verify about the need to convert back to ext3?
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No you simply flash like you would any other rom. If the rom actually formats your drives to ext4 i beleive you will have convert back to ext3 in order to flash an ext3 rom. There is a conversion utility somewhere on here if you search around. Someone else wanna chime in to verify about the need to convert back to ext3?
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Yeah I read about the EXT 3 to EXT 4 dilemma on here via CM7 when it was upgraded from an overnight build or something... I think it had to do with restoring apps or data? Really appreciate your information, this finally clears up the confusion
p.s. thanks'ed all your replies
I have been flashing and playing different roms for awhile now but I have noticed that my phone is running out of space so quickly these days. The internal sd card is full and my external sd card has a little space but that's it, and the phone won't do updates or new downloads due to the internal card being full.
I was wondering, I want to go back to using CM10 again on this Blaze with the latest gapps, but I want to wipe EVERYTHING and start fresh, I have backed things using wondershares mobilego (as well as a manual backup of both sd cards, internal and external).
Can someone give me a good medthod on wiping it all, system, cache, dalvik, internal sd card and external sd card and doing a fresh install of cm10 and gapps.
Thanks in advance
Download the latest cm10 nightly and 4.1.2 gapps from the official cm10 thread to your external SD card.
Boot to cwm and go to mounts, and format:
System
Data
Cache
Emmc
Do all of them several times.
Go to advanced and wipe davlik cache a couple times too.
Then install the cm10 zip followed by the gapps. Wipe cache and davlik one more time. You can format the external SD card any time later, after you verify boot (suggested). You can use a PC or the built in format under settings/storage.
Romman0 said:
Download the latest cm10 nightly and 4.1.2 gapps from the official cm10 thread to your external SD card.
Boot to cwm and go to mounts, and format:
System
Data
Cache
Emmc
Do all of them several times.
Go to advanced and wipe davlik cache a couple times too.
Then install the cm10 zip followed by the gapps. Wipe cache and davlik one more time. You can format the external SD card any time later, after you verify boot (suggested). You can use a PC or the built in format under settings/storage.
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Wouldn't I also need to do format /sdcard several times as well to format the internal sd and then after I am all done I can do the format /sd-ext to format the external sd card? Which if I format the sd-ext it won't hurt anything I did for the install of CM and gapps right?
By the way, thanks for your help I appreciate it
You can format the external a couple times. Sometimes things get left behind, that's why in suggested the multiple wipes. You don't have to worry about SD ext, the partition will get wiped when the external SD card is formated. If you didn't create the partition there's nothing to worry about. I wouldn't format the emmc (internal SD card) after installing a rom as some of it is used.
Romman0 said:
You can format the external a couple times. Sometimes things get left behind, that's why in suggested the multiple wipes. You don't have to worry about SD ext, the partition will get wiped when the external SD card is formated. If you didn't create the partition there's nothing to worry about. I wouldn't format the emmc (internal SD card) after installing a rom as some of it is used.
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Thanks again, I did as stated above then booted up, made sure all worked fine then went back into cwm and formatted the sd card (not the sd-ext). I am now putting some music and photos back on the sd card so I have them with me. Latest CM10 Nightly from the 4th seems to freeze a little bit when trying to do things on my Blaze, maybe I just need to reboot it again after I move the stuff over.
Thanks again!
Give it a a little while to settle. If it is still giving you issues try the previous nightly from 7/28.
Gunstra said:
Thanks again, I did as stated above then booted up, made sure all worked fine then went back into cwm and formatted the sd card (not the sd-ext). I am now putting some music and photos back on the sd card so I have them with me. Latest CM10 Nightly from the 4th seems to freeze a little bit when trying to do things on my Blaze, maybe I just need to reboot it again after I move the stuff over.
Thanks again!
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Part of the internal storage is cached at /cache. It caches a bunch of things, such as mount points and app usage. When you wipe cache and start over, expect things to be slower for a couple days/reboots. Then it'll settle, as was said above
Good tips Romman0. I try to do this every 4 months or so. Blackhole and FSC only make it better, but that's clearing leftovers and realigning empty blocks and messing with the filesystem and a lot of technical junk
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