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Does anyone know what are video optimal encoding settings for Vox. I was using nokia n73 before vox and I thought they had same speed processors but mp4 files which had h264 video codec are played jirkey on Vox. I am using coreplayer. Does anyone know how much FPS with how much bitrate is optimal for Vox. On N73 I was ripping in H264 video codec, level 1.1 profile, FPS converted to 15, bitrate from 325 to 382kbps. With AAC-LC 96kbps.
When this file is played on vox playback is not smooth.
Anyone optimized settings.?
Well, what player did you use?
I tried to play it on TCPMP but it was not supported so I palyed it on CorePlayer. H264 playback was jerky but xvid was working fine.
In symbian that is N73 there was whole topic of video converstion guide that which bitrate is best at which codec. I think no here has done any such thing. Do you have any idea how to check what Vox processor can support? How to check other than hit and trial.
CorePlay should have a utility that can benchmark and you can calculate out of those numbers what playback settings should be the best.
I would use XViD, since you're encoding them yourself. Move the audio off of AAC as well, use MP3. MP4 and H264 are heavy containers and will require more processing. Vox has a iddy biddy TI OMAP850 @ 201MHz proc that barely cuts it.
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CorePlay should have a utility that can benchmark and you can calculate out of those numbers what playback settings should be the best.
I would use XViD, since you're encoding them yourself. Move the audio off of AAC as well, use MP3. MP4 and H264 are heavy containers and will require more processing. Vox has a iddy biddy TI OMAP850 @ 201MHz proc that barely cuts it.
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Well, yes AVC codecs require much more porcessing power that ASP. Any idea about Xvid or Divx compatible encoding settings.??
Ok. I am settled with 25 FPS, Xvid, with 400kbps and mp3 41khz with 128kpbs. I still get 127% on benchmarking but i think these are good setting for smooth playback and good quality video.
I use handbrake at home to convert videos, but at the moment it seems to be a bit hit and miss when it comes to working it on the Nexus.
I've installed Meridian and Video Player from the market, both read videos the same way.
So I converted 5 videos with no problem, they were relatively short. But when I did a longer conversion (dvd which was 1hr 30) it just didn't like it. Plays on my PC fine.
I cant remember which settings I used, so can anyone recommend what settings to use in handbrake? Or is there better software to convert movies with? Or is there a better media player on the market?
mp4 with h264. If I remember right there is still an iPod profile. The newer version did away with a lot of the profiles but that one should be around. With this screen you do not need to scale down the image but it would help for space.
When I get home I can post more detailed settings if need be.
I'm using Allok Mpeg4 converter at 720x480
i found using handbrake that h.264 doesn't work on the nexus, but the regular mp4 codec does
xtop said:
i found using handbrake that h.264 doesn't work on the nexus, but the regular mp4 codec does
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Not to be anal but mp4 is a container format (like ogg), not a codec (like vorbis). MPEG-4 part 2 is the "default" visual codec component. In reality it is not anymore. H.264 is also part of the MPEG-4 specification, MPEG-4 part 10 to be precise. In handbrake H.264 is the default for the mp4 container.
I am certain that h.264 can work on the N1. I have a few time wasters I keep on my phone. The more operative question is whether the current handbrake ripping to m4v works for the N1. I am reripping a film right now using the iPhone profile....
And using the iPhone & iPod Touch preset in Handbrake 0.9.4 the rip worked fine. Which preset did you use? Keep in mind some of the higher h.264 profiles might not work on the phone.
Personally I would probably up the picture settings to match the N1's resolution and maybe bump the quality down if worried about space. I was able to play a h.264 set to high settings but I am not sure what the exact settings were. It appears the N1 can handle most, if not all, h.264 profiles.
ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
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ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
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Thanks for the info, gonna try it right now
Just so you have optoins I use Handbrake, just converted American Pie The naked Mile from DVD and it looks good. Here's my settings:
Container: MP4 File
Picture Tab: Set Anamorphic to None
Select Keep Aspect Ratio. It should auto scale the hight to proper hight
Video Tab: Video Codec to MPEG-4
Average Bit Rate to 700. You can use previously recommended 1500 but this will make a large file and I'm not sure you will see the difference in
quality on out small screens.
Audio Tab: Leave everything default accept the Samplerate set to 44.1
Click Start!!!!
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ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
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800x480 with aspect ratio might aswel be 720x480
and the bitrate, as setzer said wont make to big of a difference on a small screen. 768-1024 are fine. 1500 appears to be a random number you chose as typical bitrates go from 768, 1024, 2048 etc
yea you can prolly set the vid bitrate lower, that's just what it was default and the movies come out perfect, i'm still testing other settings.
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800x480 with aspect ratio might aswel be 720x480
and the bitrate, as setzer said wont make to big of a difference on a small screen. 768-1024 are fine. 1500 appears to be a random number you chose as typical bitrates go from 768, 1024, 2048 etc
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yes it DOES make a difference, since our screen's are 80 pixels wider than 720
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kscasper13 said:
yes it DOES make a difference, since our screen's are 80 pixels wider than 720
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u dnt seem to quite understand. a typical video is made to have certain resolutions. obviously by converting a video u wil want to maintain the original aspect ratio, unless of course u dnt mind watching a stretched un porportioned video. that is why most converters have preset res already set to keep those aspect ratios and quality.from what u already said, u are watching a video stretched 80pixels too wide.
16/9 is the closest we have to a ratio standard, and 720x480 doesn't match that.
If your source is more than 800 pixels wide, the best setting is to scale the width down to 800 and let the height scale down proportionately. On a 16/9 video, this will leave very thin black bars on the bottom and top of your phone's screen. If these bother you, you will need to fiddle with Handbrake's crop settings.
If your source is smaller than 800 pixels wide, then you should just leave the resolution the same as the source. Upconverting will not make the picture any better and will just increase the filesize/bitrate.
As for bitrate, I've found that 1000-1500 looks amazing if you are converting HD video, but if you're converting SD then around 750 is sufficient.
A non-widescreen source will leave black bars to the left and right on your phone - you can get around this in two ways - firstly by stretching the picture which looks ugly IMO, or by doing your own cropping of the top and bottom of the picture during conversion.
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Not to be anal but mp4 is a container format (like ogg), not a codec (like vorbis). MPEG-4 part 2 is the "default" visual codec component. In reality it is not anymore. H.264 is also part of the MPEG-4 specification, MPEG-4 part 10 to be precise. In handbrake H.264 is the default for the mp4 container.
I am certain that h.264 can work on the N1. I have a few time wasters I keep on my phone. The more operative question is whether the current handbrake ripping to m4v works for the N1. I am reripping a film right now using the iPhone profile....
And using the iPhone & iPod Touch preset in Handbrake 0.9.4 the rip worked fine. Which preset did you use? Keep in mind some of the higher h.264 profiles might not work on the phone.
Personally I would probably up the picture settings to match the N1's resolution and maybe bump the quality down if worried about space. I was able to play a h.264 set to high settings but I am not sure what the exact settings were. It appears the N1 can handle most, if not all, h.264 profiles.
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you're right, didn't mean to say codec..thanks for correcting me
but it didn't seem to matter what i picked..normal, high profile, ipod touch, etc. anything i encoded to h.264 WON'T play. now maybe i'm overlooking something (likely), but who knows
edit: you handbrake users. do you change the audio settings at all? and do you do 2 pass, and would that help with anything?
i've noticed my encodes get a little blocky here and there, would 2 pass fix that?
kscasper13 said:
ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
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Brilliant advice, worked a treat! Thanks a lot
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u dnt seem to quite understand. a typical video is made to have certain resolutions. obviously by converting a video u wil want to maintain the original aspect ratio, unless of course u dnt mind watching a stretched un porportioned video. that is why most converters have preset res already set to keep those aspect ratios and quality.from what u already said, u are watching a video stretched 80pixels too wide.
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ggggodddddi i was kidding u doof
and yes i understand bitrate an d resolutions, i went to school for 3d rendering, but thanks for the gradeschool lesson on resolution gates.
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Brilliant advice, worked a treat! Thanks a lot
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no worries buddy, soon ima figure out the cropping settings sop it fills the screen, even though it doesn't bother me one bit
I currently use the following (for 16x9 content)
Code:
ffmpeg -i Input.avi -acodec libfaac -ac 2 -ar 44100 -ab 128k -s 800x450 -vcodec libx264 -b 700k -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -partitions +parti4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8 -subq 5 -trellis 1 -refs 1 -coder 0 -me_range 16 -g 300 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 -bt 400k -maxrate 700k -bufsize 400k -rc_eq 'blurCplx^(1-qComp)' -qcomp 0.6 -qmin 15 -qmax 51 -qdiff 4 -level 30 output.mp4
I miss out "-s 800x450" if the source material is under that already, no point scaling it up when the N1 will do it for you. For 4:3 I'd use "-s 640x480"
I use the program Flash to Video PRO, to me has very much helps.
The reason why above poster chose 1500 bitrare when converting from a 720p video is because from what I have found to be the highest bitrate the N1 will support (or all the video players on the market atleast) btw use mVideoPlayer by far the best video player...
I might also add that the latest version of AnyDVD converter has a converting option built in for the nexus ... wich is basically the same as aboves post handbreak settings..
i got some 700mb avi movies and dropped it on my phone. it said it could not play. do i need to resize it or is it an encoder issue? maybe the file size is too big? idk!
thanks
What player are you trying to use?
use rockplayer or vplayer, I had played 2.7gb mkv 720p movie with no issue.
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i got some 700mb avi movies and dropped it on my phone. it said it could not play. do i need to resize it or is it an encoder issue? maybe the file size is too big? idk!
thanks
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Try the program "handbrake" with high profile settings
Are you using a custom rom? Because I have been watching 700 mb .avi and great big hd .mkv with no problem, on both stock and newest cognition. Only format I HAVE had a problem with is m2ts.
I use PavTube Ultimate Blu-Ray Converter to make Xvid MP4 files out of my discs. They work great on the Captivate. I played around with different settings and there really isn't much visual difference between using the native 800x480 resolution compared to HD rez, but the difference in file size is significant.
I get the same issues with some AVI's in both Rockplayer and the stock player on the stock rom. Haven't tried movies since flashing to Cognition 2.3b7. MKV's don't typically play in rockplayer, the few that have skipped a ton, or they would play with no audio. Not sure what you guys are doing to your movies to make them play. All of my videos are encoded properly, and play on my WD TV Live just fine. The WD is a good test of media quality for rips.
The WD TV Live also can play pretty much any audio and video codec you throw at it.
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The WD TV Live also can play pretty much any audio and video codec you throw at it.
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There have been mkv's that have not played correctly on it, so if it's not encoded properly, the WD is a good test, from my experience.
I have some 700mb xvid movies on my phone and they play fine on stock rom w/stock player. But I highly recommend vplayer for video and rtsp watching.
Yep. Gave Handbrake a shot. Works like a charm. Will download vplayer and check it out
thanks fellas
What kind of settings are you guys using for your conversions?
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followed the settings outlined on this webpage:
http://www.knowyourcell.com/samsung/samsung-captivate/captivate-guides/513592/how_to_convert_videos_and_transfer_them_to_the_samsung_captivate.html
Requirements:
Installed copy of Handbrake software
Video files and or DVD of your choice
Samsung Captivate with microUSB cable
Step I: Launch the Handbrake application on your computer and select the video source
In the menu on the right-hand side, select the iPod Legacy preset (figure 1)
Select your video source by clicking on the Source dropdown menu (we used a DVD for our testing purposes)
Select the destination and name for the file once it has been converted (both the .mp4 and .m4v extension work for the Captivate)
Confirm that the container is set to MP4 File and that Large file size, Web optimized, and iPod 5G support are unchecked
Step II: Adjust Handbrake's Video Settings
Picture Tab:
Uncheck Keep Aspect Ratio
Set the Captivated Width and Height (the Captivate supports a maximum of 800 x 480 pixels)
Video Tab:
Confirm the Video Codec is set as H.264 (x264)
Framerate (FPS) should be set to Same as source
Under Quality, select the Avg Bitrate (kbps) and change it to 1500
Step III: Adjust audio settings
Confirm the Audio Codec is AAC (faac)
Mixdown should be set to Stereo
Change the Samplerate to 48
Change the Bitrate to 160
Step IV: Save as a preset for future use
Click on the Presets menu and select New Preset
Enter Captivate in the dialog box and click Add
"Captivate" will now be saved as a preset and listed on the right hand side in Handbrake to be used in the future
Step V: Convert the video and copy to your Captivate
Click on the Start button in Handbrake
A command line/DOS window will open and start to process the video conversion
Once the conversion is done, mount your Captivate on to your computer via USB
Once mounted, create a folder named Video in the root folder on the Captivate
Copy converted file into the Video folder
That's it! The converted video can now be played on your Captivate using the Gallery app. It should look fantastic on the Captivate's screen as long as the original source was of good quality.
A few things to keep in mind when converting video:
The Captivate does not like video file sizes over 2GB (the settings in Step II should help insure that the file size is kept under 2GB)
Your converted video will only be as good as the source video
If your source is over 800 x 480, you must be sure to set the width and height to a maximum of 800 x 480 as noted in Step II
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use rockplayer or vplayer, I had played 2.7gb mkv 720p movie with no issue.
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ditto. no problems with xvid or mkv files of that size.
i hate converting! all i want is drag, drop and play.. easy as that.
On Assonance 4.3 o/c to 1300 mhz
I actually converted like 20 movies or so for my phone but I dont think Im allowed to post the links to them here lol.
I don't know what went wrong, I can just say I'm running same cog rom you are and so far .mkv, .avi and .mp4 work just fine for me on the stock vid player :-/
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Tried Handbrake using the settings above and the video was garbage. I'll stick with Pavtube as it converts anything I throw at it in any format without issue and it does Blu-Ray, as well. Looks like 1500 bit rate is the sweet spot for good video quality and manageable file size.
I believe all you have to click is High profile on the right side , that is it
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I actually converted like 20 movies or so for my phone but I dont think Im allowed to post the links to them here lol.
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I don't think u would need to convert any vids for the captivate. Captivate by itself plays a variety of formats
Actually, since I'm ripping mostly Blu-Ray discs, they DO need to be converted. And I did a check ripping standard DVD to both mpg2 and mp4. A 50mb mpg2 rip was about 3:40 (min:seconds) whereas the same settings ripped to mp4 was closer to 4:20. Over the span of a complete movie, the mp4 conversion will yield a smaller file size.
I had this issue with 720p and 1080 mkv files I downloaded mirroring correctly on my Atrix 2, the video would be jerky.
The problem was because the atrix 2 doesnt play well with 48khz audio.
The following steps will make 720 mkv or 1080 mkv play smoothly on the atrix 2 without any video reencoding, just audio.
It is a two program process, which produces great results.
The first program is MeGUI
The second program is xenonmkv
I attached my atrix 2 presets for megui which you can import into megui if you want to skip all the setting stuff below.
Xenonmkv just changes stuff in the mkv file and turns the file into mp4 which I find plays better on the Atrix 2
Step one, in MeGui, I go to tools and then One Click Encoder, Load the input file,
then show advanced options, under advanced options check keep input resolution, under Encoder options check dont encode video, under audio select NeroAAC, then config, then under sample rate Select Change to 44100 hz , I alse set the audio bitrate to 128kb. I save all these settings as a profile so next time I just load file and click encode and bam done.
If you are doing more then one file just make "and open next" is selected under MeGUI one click encoder.
Once you are done you just go to Queue and click start.
Once all the files are encoded load up xenonmkv, and load the file and click start, itll convert to a mp4 without actually reencoding the video and in the end you have a mkv that plays smooth on the atrix 2.
...so yesterday I filmed fireworks underneath London Eye, since it lasts for 13min in size it's 1.4GB, I wanted to reduce it's size to smaller to put it on youtube, otherwise I'm at the moment with broadband and they are really unstable regarding connect. I tried vegas 7.0, but for some reason it doesn't recognize .mp4 file and sometimes it does recognize but makes this 13min video into 108h video and then it just freezes (app).
any ideas?
Happy New Year to everyone by the way!
You can use virtualdubmod on a windows pc. Load the video into it and save the video as an avi with xvid compression. Virtualdubmod and the xvid codec are both freeware and googling them will find the download links for you.
Also if you want to edit the video virtualdubmod can do that easily.
Dave
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You can use this free windows program http://sourceforge.net/projects/mp4cam2avi/ to patch video header and make it a standard mp4 that any software can open
mistermentality said:
You can use this free windows program http://sourceforge.net/projects/mp4cam2avi/ to patch video header and make it a standard mp4 that any software can open
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tried this app, but it doesn't shrink size, just convert into AVI, that's all. Thanks anyway.
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You can use virtualdubmod on a windows pc. Load the video into it and save the video as an avi with xvid compression. Virtualdubmod and the xvid codec are both freeware and googling them will find the download links for you.
Also if you want to edit the video virtualdubmod can do that easily.
Dave
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for some reason it can't recognize .mp4 video what I filmed with O3D and tried the other recommended app which turns .mp4 into .avi's and it still shows some error about:
Couldn't find decompressor for format 'H264' (unknown)
The mpeg4avi program only fixes the video header so any software will read it as a h264 mpeg four video file.
After patching it you can use the new version, it defaults to calling it videout.avi, in any progran to edit it.
If your choice of program can't read it you just need to install a h264 codec like this one at http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264vfw/ as that lets virtualdub see the video.
Basically you need a h264 codec, an xvid codec, virtualdubmod and all you do then is....
1. In virtualdubmod choose open file option and load your video
2. For compression choose xvid and set it how you want or leave it at its default setting
3. Choose to save avi. It will reduce size based on your settings for compression.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
The mpeg4avi program only fixes the video header so any software will read it as a h264 mpeg four video file.
After patching it you can use the new version, it defaults to calling it videout.avi, in any progran to edit it.
If your choice of program can't read it you just need to install a h264 codec like this one at http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264vfw/ as that lets virtualdub see the video.
Basically you need a h264 codec, an xvid codec, virtualdubmod and all you do then is....
1. In virtualdubmod choose open file option and load your video
2. For compression choose xvid and set it how you want or leave it at its default setting
3. Choose to save avi. It will reduce size based on your settings for compression.
Dave
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tnx, it cut size in bout half, but still 700mb for 11min, tried to edit it in Vegas 7.0, but it just recognize only sound, not picture.
Vegas nay need a direct show h264 filter like the free ffmpeg one as opposed to the vfw one I linked to.
You can get hd video down to about four hundred megabytes by trying different settings such as lower bitrate in xvid or setting it to have a quantiser of more than 1. The easiest way is encode a short thirty second clip in virtualdub to test different settings. On youtube some similar length hd videos are as small as 250 mb but it depends on your compression settings mainly.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Vegas nay need a direct show h264 filter like the free ffmpeg one as opposed to the vfw one I linked to.
You can get hd video down to about four hundred megabytes by trying different settings such as lower bitrate in xvid or setting it to have a quantiser of more than 1. The easiest way is encode a short thirty second clip in virtualdub to test different settings. On youtube some similar length hd videos are as small as 250 mb but it depends on your compression settings mainly.
Dave
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changing video moe from full proccessing mode to different would decrease size also?
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changing video moe from full proccessing mode to different would decrease size also?
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You have to have full processing on. It can only be off for things like converting framerate that do not require changes to the actual video itself. But you should be able to get good results with bitrates as low as 1500 k its just a case of finding compression settings you prefer.
Dave
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