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[Q] WTH? My stock Thunderbolt just updated istelf!

I'm noticing in other threads than OTA update has been pushed, but again - WTH? I noticed this morning my Thunderbolt was downloading the update. I hopped on the internet to check this site about what this update would contain. While logging on, I heard my Thunderbold do the short vibrate reboot sound - I looked over and it apparently had not only downloaded the update, but flashed it as well - completely wiping my settings/data in the process!
I had been holding off rooting for lack of time, but now there is no reason to wait. And I can't believe, if I'm not the only one this has happened to, that there won't be a lot of PISSED Thunderbolt owners out there...

This is common practice for OTAs to update automatically. That's why they PUSH the updates.
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I rejected it error code 401 hopefully it will not update.
If I have to pull battery then I think I'm screwed holding off till bugs surface and they send out patches
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I found mine updated this morning. But no settings or anything wiped, just the new gingerbread software, new verizon included software (or updated).

Have stock TB. Found OTA new update and downloaded it. Most of my settings were still there. Had old GB update and did a factory reset 2x trying to fix issues. New OTA fixed issues I was having.
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ibsk8 said:
This is common practice for OTAs to update automatically. That's why they PUSH the updates.
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I get that, but wiping the device should require the owner's approval.
An update on this: apparently, it has only wiped the device, as now it wants to do the update. Curious (and maddening) that it's asking permission to do the update but wiped the device without warning. Maybe the wiping is a prep step for the update? Still doesn't justify it.
I could even give Verizon and/or HTC the benefit of the doubt and say that wiping was some sort of bug, but it still should never have happened. I'm in the mood to root it now, so hopefully it will be a moot point...

Mine trys to update, but I just get the "!" with the small blue-android.
I just reboot it, and it says "update failed" and I go on my merry way.

Not a crisis, but could use some help

So after reading that the 2.3.6 update should not cause loss of root (i used zergrush oneclick), I decided to go ahead and do it OTA.
Unfortunately I was on a conference call for work and forgot to unfreeze the apps I had previously frozen with TiBu.
Started the update, it got to 75% and then said "update failed" and restarted. Everything seems fine.
I went into TiBu, unfroze everything and went back to update. I checked for the update and it is saying I am up-to-date, and to check back in 24 hours, but the phone is still on 2.3.5.
Any thoughts on how to force it tonight (or later if it does not want to do it on it's own)
Figured I would ask first before messing around anymore.

Yes push menu settings date and time uncheck automatic and change your date to a day from now manually then u can get the update

silver03wrx said:
Yes push menu settings date and time uncheck automatic and change your date to a day from now manually then u can get the update
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Thanks for the quick answer.
Unfortunately, while that did allow me to check again for updates, it is still saying my phone is up to date, despite showing as being on 2.3.5

I don't think the TiBu frozen apps prevented the OTA update... I was rooted using SuperOneClick 2.2 on 2.3.5. I did the OTA 2.3.6 update with 18 apps frozen with TiBu and it updated fine... I retained root... 18 apps still frozen... LauncherPro and all my widgits still functional. We're you on stock Recovery?
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Vaguely embarrassed but I think so? I have a new kid so much less time to play with phones.
Took a stock phone, rooted with zergrush, added super user so I could use TiBu to freeze bloat and some of the advanced juice defender and widget locker capabilities and that is it.
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Any solution for this yet?
I did the same thing, had mulitple apps and services frozen. I keep getting the already updated message.
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HERE PEOPLE 2.3.6 flashable zip uploaded by mikeyinid
mikeyinid said:
OK, here it is. But, after I was about halfway through the upload, I remembered I puller some stuff out. The main thing I was concerned with is the visual voicemail.apk. Hope you guys can get it from the market like we can on tmobile. Anyhow, here is the rooted 2.3.6 rom. Please, after first boot, go back into recovery and fix permissions.
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Need Help, Updating Fails 2.3.6

Don't know what went wrong, but every time I try to update to 2.3.6 I get an error image and then it reboots. Done this 5 times and its driving me crazy

J94w said:
Don't know what went wrong, but every time I try to update to 2.3.6 I get an error image and then it reboots. Done this 5 times and its driving me crazy
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Are you rooted? If so what modifications have you done?
Have you uninstalled any of the stock bloatware, even if it was uninstallable without root? The update requires all bloatware to be installed.

J94w said:
Don't know what went wrong, but every time I try to update to 2.3.6 I get an error image and then it reboots. Done this 5 times and its driving me crazy
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Seriously people, search before you post!! We have covered this at least 10 times!Anyways, If you have deleted any of the AT&T bloatware the update will fail. It is STRONGLY recommend that you flash the fkz's to get back to stock before you apply the update, especially if you have rooted and performed any mods. Just be sure to re-root and apply the 4ever root mod to keep root over the OTA.

Or just wait for lfaber to make something awesome with it!

Thanks, I just now stumbled on the other thread's also saying the same thing my bad. And also another question why is the bloatware so important?

J94w said:
Thanks, I just now stumbled on the other thread's also saying the same thing my bad. And also another question why is the bloatware so important?
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It's not that it's important... it's that the update file is filled with a bunch of patches, some of which are for the bloatware, and so if the bloatware isn't there the patches don't install and the update won't begin (it checks everything at first.)

Oh ok thanks

It's not working for me too . I removed alot of the bloatware yes any solution beside restoring fxz ?
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alcatel444 said:
It's not working for me too . I removed alot of the bloatware yes any solution beside restoring fxz ?
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Sadly not...
you can just wait for custom ROMs to be based off of 2.3.6 and flash them... this update really isn't very major.

How can I tell if it's even trying to update. I manually started the update about 4 hours ago, but it doesn't look like anything is downloading. When I click on system update again, it says an update is currently being downloaded, but according to 3G watchdog, my wi-fi usage isn't changing. If I turn off wi-fi, it says the download will resume when wi-fi is back on, but the percentage is at 0%, and when I turn wi-fi back on, it stays at 0%.
If it's going to error out, does it not say something? I'm not getting any indication that it failed. Is there not a progress bar in notifications or anything? At first, I figured the server was just busy, but after 4 hours, something should have downloaded by now, right?

stedean said:
How can I tell if it's even trying to update. I manually started the update about 4 hours ago, but it doesn't look like anything is downloading. When I click on system update again, it says an update is currently being downloaded, but according to 3G watchdog, my wi-fi usage isn't changing. If I turn off wi-fi, it says the download will resume when wi-fi is back on, but the percentage is at 0%, and when I turn wi-fi back on, it stays at 0%.
If it's going to error out, does it not say something? I'm not getting any indication that it failed. Is there not a progress bar in notifications or anything? At first, I figured the server was just busy, but after 4 hours, something should have downloaded by now, right?
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A reboot can't hurt.

Ok i had issues upgrading to 2.3.6 tonight.. I realized i had stupidly uninstalled YahooContacts.apk and FMRadioService.apk... As we know Titanium can't restore these. However what I did do was this:
open /cache/recover/last_log in a text viewer
scroll to the bottom, it will tell you what is causing the installer to fail.
Mine i could clearly see it couldn't find FMRadioService.apk I took the .gz file from the titanium backup directory, un-gzipped it, renamed the .apk to FMRadioService.apk and placed it in /system/app I then re-tried the update, it failed again, repeated with YahooContacts.apk
and viola... all was well..
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I tried that. The progress bar that was stuck at 0% went away after reboot, but it's still not downloading anything, as far as I can tell. That's why I was wondering if there is any kind of progress bar normally.
I'm thinking that, since I'm at work, our wi-fi is blocking it. I can't get it to download over 3G, so I guess I'll wait until the morning, when I'm home.

BTW, if your phone dies ("Battery Low - Cannot program" message) while trying a rollback to 2.3.5 try the following procedure. It's risky but I was able to bring my Atrix 2 to live:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026

Moto has apparently released a software update

Per this poster over on S4GRU.com, the new version is 77.8.10.XT897.Sprint.en.US:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2507-photon-q-software-update/

Yeah, I had seen someone on the Sprint forums say he got the update last night. He said IM didn't work aterwards, but I wasn't sure if he meant Gtalk, or what.
I am rooted and debloated as well, but from my experience, that shouldn't prevent the device from saying an update is available.... but the update could fail if we try and apply it like this... I always go back to stock unrooted if I wanna install an update.
I think at least one thing they were supposed to address was that VSNCP registratiom error that pops up sometimes, I've seen it pretty much every day, and I've even done the fix of editing my data profile username.
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Actually, I will be interested to see whether we do receive the update with bootloader unlocked and rooted. I did see Moto say in the FAQs that they are under no obligation to offer updates to unlocked devices. However, that is probably just something they say, and they did also mention the bit about accepting the OTA when rooted/modded causing problems.
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yogi2010 said:
Actually, I will be interested to see whether we do receive the update with bootloader unlocked and rooted. I did see Moto say in the FAQs that they are under no obligation to offer updates to unlocked devices. However, that is probably just something they say, and they did also mention the bit about accepting the OTA when rooted/modded causing problems.
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any idea is it JB or stil ICS?

Pretty sure its still ICS, I'm sure the guy would have said if it were JB, plus something that significant would have hit the various sites beforehand most likely.

yeah, if it were JB we most probably would have heard about it beforehand. i haven't seen many people with the update yet, today i keep getting 'check for update not available at this time'.

Probably to fix the vsncp error message problem.

i just got off a chat with Sprint, and they said there is no such update currently
unless maybe it was released, then pulled due to bugs?

I woke up to a notification of the update. Size was about 50mb. I pressed 'later' to cancel it, even though it'll fail if I take it since I'm unlocked.
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yogi2010 said:
i just got off a chat with Sprint, and they said there is no such update currently
unless maybe it was released, then pulled due to bugs?
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The tech was an idiot, I just got the popup notification and was able to click on the link for the release notes.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/90757

Yeah, I just got the update notice myself. Thanks!
Gonna install and check it out. Can always revert if it's no good.
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dpwhitty11 said:
I woke up to a notification of the update. Size was about 50mb. I pressed 'later' to cancel it, even though it'll fail if I take it since I'm unlocked.
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I'm gonna try restoring the bone-stock backup file, reflashing stock recovery, and then installing the update. From past experience, unlocked bootloader has been ok, it just won't work if your system is rooted/modded.
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I got the OTA message this morning.
Coming from the shift forum we have learned to never to install OTA updates. However this one looks harmless.
Who knows.. maybe my LTE will start actually working?
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anyone do the update with a rooted phone>?

Got the update pushed down around 10:30 am est today.
From the release notes:
Multimedia Texting - Improved MMS texting functionality when the Data Username/NAI has changed to a shorter length
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This is most likely the data profile extra ".com" fix. I like their wording.
Hey a quick question to everyone. Never really had to deal with Sprint for my epic since XDA had everything I needed but I have gotten very concerned with the information around this and the "VSNCP" stuff. Are the tech's normally this clueless? Is there a quick way to talk to someone that actually knows what they are talking about? They told me I had to get a new phone the other day due to these issues. How could they tell me that if a software update to fix it is going to be release a week later?

ericcire said:
anyone do the update with a rooted phone>?
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I am rooted and unlocked and the upgrade went through fine. Now I am not rooted anymore, but that shouldnt be hard to fix.

swintec said:
I am rooted and unlocked and the upgrade went through fine. Now I am not rooted anymore, but that shouldnt be hard to fix.
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I am also rooted (and unlocked, of course you have to be unlocked to be rooted ), but my phone went through a different scenario.
I downloaded the update (was 56MB I believe, somewhere around there. The update is 77.8.10.en.US). Downloaded it via Wi-Fi, then the phone asked if I wanted to install. I pressed Install Now, and it rebooted.
My phone rebooted and went into recovery. I dont remember everything, but it asked if I wanted to install "Unknown.zip", and it had:
No
No
No
No
Yes - Install Unknown.zip
No
No
No
Etc... I clicked No, then it went to the recovery menu (where you have the option to restart the phone, and the other options.. sorry, I've only ever rooted my evo shift so my termoinology is limited). I rebooted the phone via the first option, the phone went through its process, came back up fully, and rebooted by itself! Everything happened again (asking to install the unknown.zip, etc..). Basically, it was in an endless look when I would restart the phone.
First thing I tried was to wipe the Delvik Cache. Did that, rebooted, phone came back up and rebooted by itself again.
Second thing I tried (and I had a feeling I would probably regret this cause it would either brick my phone or unroot it), was to install that Unknown.zip. But that didnt even go through. The install failed (A message appeared at the bottom of the phone along with the other message logs, so I really dont remember exactly what it said. It was just an error message basically).
At this point I didnt know what to do... so I got to the recovery menu (where it said Reboot phone, Advanced, and the other options), and I selected the one that said to Wipe Cache. Not the Delvik cache but the phone cache (I dont think the option said Wipe Cache, but something similar?). Did that, rebooted, and my phone stayed on! The update popped up again, and this time I pressed "Later". Learned my lesson.
I guess the update may be hit or miss for rooted users?

ericcire said:
anyone do the update with a rooted phone>?
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Yes, clockwork recovery booted up and the update failed.. probably going to flash the stock image..
But my phone says I'm up to date?

Kenneth196 said:
I guess the update may be hit or miss for rooted users?
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Possibly..I dunno. I used the 2nd method posted only a few weeks ago and a few clicks of the mouse to root...not the first method initially posted when the phone first came out. When I clicked update now it simply rebooted and the android guy came up and did its thing...about 5 minutes later everything was back to normal.

I wiped my phone completely and am not getting a notification about the OTA now.
I'm flashing TWRP and hoping I get notified again.
Is there a way to flash the stock recovery?

I installed this update, all I can confirm is that it's still Android version 4.0.4. Otherwise I've really not noticed anything different or new yet, but I haven't had much of a chance to use it.

[Q] Can Only Boot to Recovery

About 30 minutes ago my phone was working fine, the last thing I remember doing was sending a text. A few minutes later I look down at my phone and notice it is in recovery. At this point I'm confused wondering how it got there, but figure it's whatever and reboot into system. It reboots back into recovery and at this point I'm kinda freaking out. I do a backup, wipe, and restore from a backup ~2 weeks ago. Again, rebooting just causes my phone to go into recovery.
Earlier today there was a notification on my phone about an update but I just ignored it as I didn't have time to deal with it. I assume that it automatically was applied and that is what caused this problem.
edit: If you have this problem, try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/fix-stuck-custom-recovery-trying-ota-t2907508

Same thing just happened to me.
I turned off OTA from earlier today and also removed the notification using AppOps and now I can't boot to anything but TWRP

nest75068 said:
Same thing just happened to me.
I turned off OTA from earlier today and also removed the notification using AppOps and now I can't boot to anything but TWRP
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I'm about to try this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/fix-stuck-custom-recovery-trying-ota-t2907508, if it works I'll let you know.

elguy said:
I'm about to try this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/fix-stuck-custom-recovery-trying-ota-t2907508, if it works I'll let you know.
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Was coming here to say this worked - I was already doing this.
I'm back up and running again.
Not sure wtf caused the issue - I didn't take the OTA and have been fine on the phone all day until just now

nest75068 said:
Was coming here to say this worked - I was already doing this.
I'm back up and running again.
Not sure wtf caused the issue - I didn't take the OTA and have been fine on the phone all day until just now
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Yeah, worked me too. Not sure what happened either, phone says its still on KVT49L.D85010d.

Rooted, bumed TWRP. All of the above applies to me. Recovered, but back to stock. Annoyed that I have to start all over

gpgon said:
Rooted, bumed TWRP. All of the above applies to me. Recovered, but back to stock. Annoyed that I have to start all over
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I was the same - the zip file fixed my issue - didn't have to start over

Gotta love XDA.. i was getting ready for bed.. saw a bright light, it was my phone. Same thing as mentioned. only rooted and bumped. Have been denying the OTA. Even did the hidden menu trick, but still got notifications for some reason. Flashing the ZIP showed success; trying to restore my back up now.

esoteric1311 said:
Gotta love XDA.. i was getting ready for bed.. saw a bright light, it was my phone. Same thing as mentioned. only rooted and bumped. Have been denying the OTA. Even did the hidden menu trick, but still got notifications for some reason. Flashing the ZIP showed success; trying to restore my back up now.
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Once you flash the zip you shouldn't need to restore. I just clicked on reboot system and was back in

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Once you flash the zip you shouldn't need to restore. I just clicked on reboot system and was back in
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Well i had to restore the newest back up, because I restored an old back up to see of it would reboot correctly. All works fine now. Still very weird.

gpgon said:
Rooted, bumed TWRP. All of the above applies to me. Recovered, but back to stock. Annoyed that I have to start all over
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I mean I still have Root and TWRP, I might have factory reset in my panic last night before finding the fix above. Probably the cause of losing all my apps and data

ATTT Forced UPDATE
It would appear after cruising the forums this morning that ATT forced an update to all users last night. It happened to me and many others like yourself. even people that had turned off updates in the hidden menu. It is total crap and not to happy about it obviously. good thing it sent me into a boot loop, and @autoprime zip fixed me up, even though i was back up on stock rooted, I took this opportunity to move over to the PoweruserV1 international rom to attempt to keep this from happening again. Luckily our DEVS are getting development moving and soon this will be a thing of the past....

I froze Software Update with TB and did not get auto updated last night and have not gotten any new nags today. I did try to update yesterday and got the stuck in TWRP thing and flashed the fix to get back working.

KennyG123 said:
I froze Software Update with TB and did not get auto updated last night and have not gotten any new nags today. I did try to update yesterday and got the stuck in TWRP thing and flashed the fix to get back working.
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whats the name of the apk to freeze? Thanks

Just adding to this, that it was 'forced' onto me as well, and also sent me to soft brick loop (TWRP), so I'm having to use the get out of jail thread. THANKS LG!! YOU GUYS ROCK!!! (#[email protected]%&*!!!!) This is the LAST time I trust another corporate BS liar's announcement that they care about the 'community' and are going to try and be nice 'from here on out'. Moving forward, it will be NEXUS and nothing else for me.

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whats the name of the apk to freeze? Thanks
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It is called Software Update in TB. I only have it frozen since last night so hopefully this does the trick...it also removes update option from settings FYI.

Anyone else have this happen again last night? Phone was fine at 5am, woke up at 8:30 to recovery. Flashed the same zip and now it's all fine again.

Freeze software update with titanium backup so your phone doesn't try to install the update agian

wow att and their updates f*** with everything, currently having a locked s4 with old firm of mf3. i plan on upgrading my device but on the fence with all this lock down bs. switching to tmobile seems like a decent option...... so confused and undecided