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I have a couple of Desire S's here, one locked to Orange with the awful Orange ROM, the other unlocked with a stock ROM.
My question is this:
Is there a way to take a backup from the stock phone and restore it on the other?
At the moment both phones are S-On and neither is rooted or modified in any way, both are running the updated 2.3.5 roms.
I'm fed up with the rubbish Orange put on the phone, but with the upcoming ICS OTA update due some time this year (maybe) I want to be able to get this when HTC release it, rather than when Orange have butchered it. I'm happy to pay Orange to unlock the phone if needs be, but I'd rather not if it's avoidable . (I'm also looking at going to 3 for the unlimited data so it might get unlocked at some point anyway...)
I've seen some posts saying that once modified the OTA updates are pretty much not going to happen, although was unclear if they meant modified ROMS or just other ROMS from the one originally supplied. I'm fairly happy with the Sense 3.0 update
I have previously rooted my old Hero and flashed Cyanogen on it regularly, but don't want to fiddle too much with my Desire unless I have to.
Any thoughts/suggestions welcomed, but I really don't want to wait until Orange get round to modding ICS once HTC finally release it.
OK, change of plan. Looks like it will be much simpler to simply flash with a generic ROM with 2.3.5 and then do it again later when ICS is out.
Looking at the FileFactory list of RUUs I'm not clear which the best option is... What's the difference between the RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe and the RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe?
Is there a way to take a backup from the stock phone and restore it on the other?
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No, but if you use a goldcard, you can flash RUU's out of region / brand etc.
At the moment both phones are S-On and neither is rooted or modified in any way, both are running the updated 2.3.5 roms.
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You can easily S-OFF them by using Revolutionary (if HBoot is 0.98.000X), most stock ROMs tend to have quite easily hackable bootloaders.
I'm happy to pay Orange to unlock the phone if needs be, but I'd rather not if it's avoidable .
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Orange will charge you an arm and a leg. Better is to find an unlock provider online. Googling around or use the giffgaff unlockapaedia.
I've seen some posts saying that once modified the OTA updates are pretty much not going to happen, although was unclear if they meant modified ROMS or just other ROMS from the one originally supplied.
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Yes, stock branded ROMs are distributed by the network. So unless orange can be bothered to re-theme a new OTA update, you won't be getting one I'm afraid if you're on a branded ROM.
Any thoughts/suggestions welcomed, but I really don't want to wait until Orange get round to modding ICS once HTC finally release it.
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Tbh, current ICS roms have camera problems, due to proprietary htc drivers. These probably won't be solved until HTC releases the official ICS patch (or some kind dev ports a sensation ICS driver).
You'll also find that with some of the phones, AOSP and CM7 kernels also have camera problems (it's a bit of a hit and miss really...) if you're happy with Sense interface, try Endymion, Virtuous or SenseMOD.
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twoayem said:
OK, change of plan. Looks like it will be much simpler to simply flash with a generic ROM with 2.3.5 and then do it again later when ICS is out.
Looking at the FileFactory list of RUUs I'm not clear which the best option is... What's the difference between the RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe and the RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe?
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Make sure you check your phone version when flashing RUUs. Use fastboot getvar all and look at the INFOversion-main and INFOcidnum.
Becareful there, because if you flash the wrong version, you'll get a HTC locked bootloader!
If in doubt, use Goldcard.
Hi all,
I am new to android and just* want to root my phone as many apps demand your phone to be rooted such as full backup apps, firewall apps and other similar apps.
I am still on HTC's stock 2.3.3 with HTC sense v.2.1 (though i have downloaded the OTA update for 2.3.5 but kinda confused over negative reviews of 2.3.5 update..so I am holding it here right now)
But when I saw a guide here though quite helpful but I was a bit confused as what I read on other articles on XDA + on other blogs that a thing called HBOOT is a bit tricky to tackle while following a particular rooting method; as there are many ways to root like using revolutionary..installing custom bootloaders etc (is it really neccessary? I just want to root my phone and don't plan to install any custom ROMs in near future.)
I am confused
- as to should I really let my warranty go off the table as its just a month old phone sacrificing it for just a few apps I want to use.
- Please tell me that, will I be able to search for and install the officially released OTA updates such as the 2.3.5 / ICS after I have done S-OFF + Rooted my phone??
If answer to both of the questions above is a "YES"
then plz tell me step by step of how to S-OFF and ROOT my phone (I found multiple ways to Root the phone and now I am confused and not really confident on which way/approach to follow)
Any advice would be appreciated.
Regards,
Sky770
If you want to root, do not download the OTA and install!!
You are in a great position, and you can easily root your hboot with the alpharevx.
Do it, you won't regret it.
Also, we can't give you step by step guides... Follow the index links.
Also, you can't install updates after rooted. But you won't need to. We will have the official ICS prerooted before.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
Revolutionary now, not AlphaRevX
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olyloh6696 said:
If you want to root, do not download the OTA and install!!
You are in a great position, and you can easily root your hboot with the alpharevx.
Do it, you won't regret it.
Also, we can't give you step by step guides... Follow the index links.
Also, you can't install updates after rooted. But you won't need to. We will have the official ICS prerooted before.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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well..
dan-fish said:
Revolutionary now, not AlphaRevX
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Thx for both of you replying here..
LOL accidentally pressed "thanks" for dan-fish so had to do the same for olyloh6696 (I mean should express gratitude towards both of you..but its actually better if I had done it at the end/mark the thread as "solved" )
Looks like we have a standoff here.. which one guys? the alpharevX or the revolutionary?
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well..
Thx for both of you replying here..
LOL accidentally pressed "thanks" for dan-fish so had to do the same for olyloh6696 (I mean should express gratitude towards both of you..but its actually better if I had done it at the end/mark the thread as "solved" )
Looks like we have a standoff here.. which one guys? the alpharevX or the revolutionary?
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Both are the same alpharevX is the old name for revolutionary
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
Revolutionary, alpharevx was before
Yeah oops my bad! Shows how far behind I am with the rooting buisness! I can't even remember how I rooted mine exactly now!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
suku_patel_22 said:
Both are the same alpharevX is the old name for revolutionary
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
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I was wishing for you only to land here..voila
eyahl said:
Revolutionary, alpharevx was before
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Thx for the update.. yep just read it on revolutionary.io's home page
olyloh6696 said:
Yeah oops my bad! Shows how far behind I am with the rooting buisness! I can't even remember how I rooted mine exactly now!
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:| looks like am here for that now
ok guys here is my HBOOT info:
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saga pvt ship s-on RL
hboot-0.98.0002
radio-3805.06.02.03_M
eMMC-boot
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So, should I be worried about the HBOOT ver. number? the 0.98 ? :|
You should be less worried that the hboot is 0.98....
No need of downgrading,
It's simple, just do revolutionary....
And you will have S-off
And yes, don't download the OTA
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
There's a video in the index thread on How to root and S Off the HTC desire S ... Follow the instructions & u r good to go!!!
suku_patel_22 said:
You should be less worried that the hboot is 0.98....
No need of downgrading,
It's simple, just do revolutionary....
And you will have S-off
And yes, don't download the OTA
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
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ok.. I really have no idea about what happens and what not happens if i do downgrade my HBOOT but I see many people here on XDA done that (downgraded their HBOOT) Can you shed some light on this topic?
Also, I would definitely want to try official 2.3.5 and/or the official ICS release (whenever they release one; around Q3/Q4 2012? ) so is there any* way to install these if I do revolutionary? I would def. like to find these updates via OTA (will my phone detect these from official HTC servers?)
PS: I am trying to stay as long as with official ROM as of now :| so no near future plans to flash my baby with a custom one
Just need the root
just a few more noob questions to follow
Thanks for reading and replying
You will not thank me for this, but for your sake I suggest reading instead of writing. All of the info you're asking for is written in the guides, and people that write the guides don't have enough patience to answer those that don't bother reading and ask the same questions over and over. Writing questions instead of reading FAQs and guides leaves you with less probability of having a good answer or having an answer at all, and clutters the already cluttered forum.
sky770 said:
ok.. I really have no idea about what happens and what not happens if i do downgrade my HBOOT but I see many people here on XDA done that (downgraded their HBOOT) Can you shed some light on this topic?
Also, I would definIitely want to try official 2.3.5 and/or the official ICS release (whenever they release one; around Q3/Q4 2012? ) so is there any* way to install these if I do revolutionary? I would def. like to find these updates via OTA (will my phone detect these from official HTC servers?)
PS: I am trying to stay as long as with official ROM as of now :| so no near future plans to flash my baby with a custom one
Just need the root
just a few more noob questions to follow
Thanks for reading and replying
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As you are on the old hboot, there is no need of downgrading, that's why I said, do not install the upgrade.
We have a ROM, by Proxuser, which is the rooted version of the OTA with no modifications and will work out pretty well.
Once rooted you will not be able to receive any OTA upgraded, but IMHO, hardly matters, you will get the same and better versions out here.
We already have the leak of ICS build for desire S, and it's pretty fast, forget q3
Also we have very functional sense 4 lite, which is faster than sense 3.6
So again, do the revolutionary, it's quite simple actually for you, and flash the saga 3D,, for a stock experience
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
sky770 said:
ok.. I really have no idea about what happens and what not happens if i do downgrade my HBOOT but I see many people here on XDA done that (downgraded their HBOOT) Can you shed some light on this topic?
Also, I would definitely want to try official 2.3.5 and/or the official ICS release (whenever they release one; around Q3/Q4 2012? ) so is there any* way to install these if I do revolutionary? I would def. like to find these updates via OTA (will my phone detect these from official HTC servers?)
PS: I am trying to stay as long as with official ROM as of now :| so no near future plans to flash my baby with a custom one
Just need the root
just a few more noob questions to follow
Thanks for reading and replying
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Well the beauty of rooting is trying out custom ROMs... I don't think you should root if you don't intend too. You seriously won't regret it. Just take a NAND backup, you can always restore to it if you don't like the custom ROMs.
And as I have said before...
No, you can't get OTAs once rooted, but you can still install these maually, and you will be able to do it way before the update actually hits your phone 'officially'.
As we have said too, you are in a good position. No need to downgrade at all. Your hboot version is the right one.
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You will not thank me for this, but for your sake I suggest reading instead of writing. All of the info you're asking for is written in the guides, and....
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:|
well..thats what forums are for..uhmmm? to ask people about your doubts and things you don't understand simply. period. anyways..thx for motivating me to through 100+ threads
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We already have the leak of ICS build for desire S, and it's pretty fast, forget q3
Also we have very functional sense 4 lite, which is faster than sense 3.6.....
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thx bro I have not upgraded my 2.3.3 to 2.3.5 so np
well can you name me the ROM which is the ICS build for htc desire S + has the sense 4 lite (faster than sense 3.6? :O )
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Well the beauty of rooting is trying out custom ROMs... I don't think you should root if you don't intend too.....
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Right.. When I acually was craving for a droid I was crazy as hell to root n try out new ROMs but... when I got an HTC I was simply hands down n thought not to touch this beauty. HTC Desire S is quite a package at this cheap price + hardware config.
PS: just a last ques. for now: which OS is the recommended one? I do have linux mint 10 32 bit edition installed on my machine; its a bit old.. rarely updated the packages n all AND I have windows 7 ultimate 64 bit edition ..so which one would you recommend me to root with?
Thanks a lot guys.
I'll get on it.. and will tell you how things go
Regards,
sky770
Well i felt the same too. It's great out if the box, but you can achieve so much more when rooted.
Do it. Also, Windows 7 is easier.
ROMs? Have you checked the dev forum yet?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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well..thats what forums are for..uhmmm? to ask people about your doubts and things you don't understand simply. period. anyways..thx for motivating me to through 100+ threads
thx bro I have not upgraded my 2.3.3 to 2.3.5 so np
well can you name me the ROM which is the ICS build for htc desire S + has the sense 4 lite (faster than sense 3.6? :O )
Right.. When I acually was craving for a droid I was crazy as hell to root n try out new ROMs but... when I got an HTC I was simply hands down n thought not to touch this beauty. HTC Desire S is quite a package at this cheap price + hardware config.
PS: just a last ques. for now: which OS is the recommended one? I do have linux mint 10 32 bit edition installed on my machine; its a bit old.. rarely updated the packages n all AND I have windows 7 ultimate 64 bit edition ..so which one would you recommend me to root with?
Thanks a lot guys.
I'll get on it.. and will tell you how things go
Regards,
sky770
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First thing, you dont need to read 100+ threads, the index is in my signature with all sorts of information
STOCK ICS Sense 3.6: Virtuous Saga
Sense 4.0A(One V port): Fallout
And yes, any OS that you are comfortable with should be fine.. I did it on Win 7
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well..thats what forums are for..uhmmm? to ask people about your doubts and things you don't understand simply. period. anyways..thx for motivating me to through 100+ threads
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No, that's not what forums are for. You should probably look at the name of the forum and think, what does "-developers" part stand for, and why isn't it called "XDA-users-in-doubt-that-are-too-lazy-to-bother-reading". Your "period" you can use elsewhere.
To your last question: Windows is what the guides are written for, so doing everything on Windows will be better - it won't require you to understand and "translate" everything to Linux.
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No, that's not what forums are for. You should probably look at the name of the forum and think, what does "-developers" part stand for, and why isn't it called "XDA-users-in-doubt-that-are-too-lazy-to-bother-reading".
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(wish I could give this a thumbs up too )
@sky770... The guys are right, In my opinion it's only worth rooting your device if you plan to try a couple of custom ROM's. You seriously won't regret. HTC have a habit of leaving some of the older devices to "fall & die" without providing updates. Through the hard work and determination of some of these guys on here, You will not only have your handset kept alive but also at the same level as some as HTC's flagship devices.
As for recommendation on ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679125
I took my HTC One S to the HTC Care shop to flash the Stock ROM. After 3 hours when I returned back the guy told me No cant do with no explanation. He said there was some hardware issue. I had handed over the phone with OEM relocked. After getting it back I restored it back to the backup of I had and looks like as it was when I had given it to them.
I have not faced any issues with the phone, just wanted to update the version from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4. I do not have my stock backup.
What are the known causes a RUU not working? I am planning on getting the RUU from someone on the forum but do want to get the wrong version or something. My specs are in my signature. If someone can tell me what exactly I need to look for when getting an RUU. Also does the HBOOT need to be the same that you own or can be higher to flash?
I am thinking that the idiots at HTC do not have the right ROM and hence asking me to deposit the phone in order to cover their own tracks. But thats just being hopeful. Can anyone help??
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I took my HTC One S to the HTC Care shop to flash the Stock ROM. After 3 hours when I returned back the guy told me No cant do with no explanation. He said there was some hardware issue. I had handed over the phone with OEM relocked. After getting it back I restored it back to the backup of I had and looks like as it was when I had given it to them.
I have not faced any issues with the phone, just wanted to update the version from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4. I do not have my stock backup.
What are the known causes a RUU not working? I am planning on getting the RUU from someone on the forum but do want to get the wrong version or something. My specs are in my signature. If someone can tell me what exactly I need to look for when getting an RUU. Also does the HBOOT need to be the same that you own or can be higher to flash?
I am thinking that the idiots at HTC do not have the right ROM and hence asking me to deposit the phone in order to cover their own tracks. But thats just being hopeful. Can anyone help??
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If you can root then you could SuperCID which would let you use any RUU.
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If you can root then you could SuperCID which would let you use any RUU.
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There is no S-OFF on HOS. The process for SuperCID is not out for HTC One S (S3). The posts have been quite explicit that the process mentioned will brick this version.
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There is no S-OFF on HOS. The process for SuperCID is not out for HTC One S (S3). The posts have been quite explicit that the process mentioned will brick this version.
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Sorry missed that you on S3 sorry.
RUU
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I took my HTC One S to the HTC Care shop to flash the Stock ROM. After 3 hours when I returned back the guy told me No cant do with no explanation. He said there was some hardware issue. I had handed over the phone with OEM relocked. After getting it back I restored it back to the backup of I had and looks like as it was when I had given it to them.
I have not faced any issues with the phone, just wanted to update the version from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4. I do not have my stock backup.
What are the known causes a RUU not working? I am planning on getting the RUU from someone on the forum but do want to get the wrong version or something. My specs are in my signature. If someone can tell me what exactly I need to look for when getting an RUU. Also does the HBOOT need to be the same that you own or can be higher to flash?
I am thinking that the idiots at HTC do not have the right ROM and hence asking me to deposit the phone in order to cover their own tracks. But thats just being hopeful. Can anyone help??
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I had a similar problem a couple months ago. I tried almost every RUU available but luckily i managed to find one that worked, its called "OTA_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5-1.78.401.2_release_275773ape8z1mahr0gt8fg". What a mouthful right lol, i'm not 100% sure it'll work for you because you have an S3 chip but it's worth a try. You can find it on filefactory and btw make sure your bootloader is locked.
Hope this helps
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I had a similar problem a couple months ago. I tried almost every RUU available but luckily i managed to find one that worked, its called "OTA_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5-1.78.401.2_release_275773ape8z1mahr0gt8fg". What a mouthful right lol, i'm not 100% sure it'll work for you because you have an S3 chip but it's worth a try. You can find it on filefactory and btw make sure your bootloader is locked.
Hope this helps
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All I am on HTC India. But what I am unable to understand is why would the HTC Service Center be unable to flash either??!!
fatpanda0 said:
All I am on HTC India. But what I am unable to understand is why would the HTC Service Center be unable to flash either??!!
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If they can't fix it they need to replace it.
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If they can't fix it they need to replace it.
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Well considering that its rooted and on a custom ROM do I still have the right to demand a replacement. Plus the service center ppl say it will take a month for them to get a verdict back. So was hoping to exhaust all options before taking the final step.
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Well considering that its rooted and on a custom ROM do I still have the right to demand a replacement. Plus the service center ppl say it will take a month for them to get a verdict back. So was hoping to exhaust all options before taking the final step.
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I just don't see how you going to do it if they can't. Try getting them to try again and if they still can't get it to work then have them send it off. Or just not care about it and update to a rom that has 4.0.4.
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I just don't see how you going to do it if they can't. Try getting them to try again and if they still can't get it to work then have them send it off. Or just not care about it and update to a rom that has 4.0.4.
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dude thats exactly what i wanna do. i really dont need stock. just need to update to 4.0.4 so that i can use a custom rom. HOS has this issue that you cant update to 4.0.4 straight up. Need to get upgrade to stock 4.0.4 then revert back to any other ROM.
As you can see its totally effed up!
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dude thats exactly what i wanna do. i really dont need stock. just need to update to 4.0.4 so that i can use a custom rom. HOS has this issue that you cant update to 4.0.4 straight up. Need to get upgrade to stock 4.0.4 then revert back to any other ROM.
As you can see its totally effed up!
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I don't understand your issue, are you saying you can't use a 4.0.4 rom because I don't see why you can't I have done it and I don't see why it wouldn't work on the S3 too.
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I don't understand your issue, are you saying you can't use a 4.0.4 rom because I don't see why you can't I have done it and I don't see why it wouldn't work on the S3 too.
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Did you do it after upgrading your stock to 4.0.4 or before it? Cuz last time I checked you CAN NOT use a custom 4.0.4 based ROM on a 4.0.3 based HOS. There is an HBOOT conflict. Anyways there are practically only 2 ROMs available for the HTC One S (S3). The TD v4 gives me bootloops (tried and failed) and the other is mcOneS3 which I havent tried but have in good faith that I WONT WORK before! reference to post #8
So if you have found a workaround I am all ears, (eyes in this case)!!
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Did you do it after upgrading your stock to 4.0.4 or before it? Cuz last time I checked you CAN NOT use a custom 4.0.4 based ROM on a 4.0.3 based HOS. There is an HBOOT conflict. Anyways there are practically only 2 ROMs available for the HTC One S (S3). The TD v4 gives me bootloops (tried and failed) and the other is mcOneS3 which I havent tried but have in good faith that I WONT WORK before! reference to post #8
So if you have found a workaround I am all ears, (eyes in this case)!!
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Ya 4.0.4 worked fine on 4.0.3 and now 4.1.1 works on 4.0.4 so guess HTC really have screwed you guys over.
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Ya 4.0.4 worked fine on 4.0.3 and now 4.1.1 works on 4.0.4 so guess HTC really have screwed you guys over.
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Tell me about it. its not a bad phone but the lack of options customize like custom ROMs really pisses me off. You have just given me one more to hate the S3 version!!
well just waiting for a 4.0.4 nandroid from someone to see if that works. else will personally ask football for an RUU.
Your One S must be having a higher hboot version than their RUU at htc service centre. Downgrade your hboot version to stock for RUU to work properly.
Merrymustu said:
Your One S must be having a higher hboot version than their RUU at htc service centre. Downgrade your hboot version to stock for RUU to work properly.
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So If I have a RUU with correct CID but a higher HBOOT version I am good to go??
The hboot version of the RUU should be the same or higher than you currently have in order for it to work. The CID should also be the same that is _038 in our case. If you find a suitable RUU please post a link to the upload, we Indians are in a dire need of an RUU.
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The hboot version of the RUU should be the same or higher than you currently have in order for it to work. The CID should also be the same that is _038 in our case. If you find a suitable RUU please post a link to the upload, we Indians are in a dire need of an RUU.
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you bet. I have spoken to football and he says it can be obtained, but at a price! So making sure that I get the right one. Also just heard that we may be getting JB sometime in future. Shot a mail to HTC today to see when it will be available. Lets see!! If they say more than 3 months then might as well get that bloody RUU. Hating this disabled feeling.
PS: are you on One S too?? Are you rooted? if so can you upload me your stock backup??????
You two should go half's on the RUU if you do get it.
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You two should go half's on the RUU if you do get it.
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hmm that will be easier on the pocket.:good: Is there a way to enable subscription just by replying to a post. It is so difficult to keep track of where you have been. I tried helping a dude earlier and completely forgot the post heading now, I doubt i will be going back there unless I have a message somewhere telling me that I am needed! Do you get what i mean?
If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
T
as long as you stay on the stock room you should get the OTA update. Issue though is, you might lose root and possibly your unlock
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If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
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If you're going to root and unlock, you should forget about OTAs. You may get one, but taking it when you're rooted can brick your phone. There's no need to take one anyway, since pre-rooted versions usually show up in the Development section that day.
If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it
Thanks all... actually went back to CM 10 last night. I had relocked and everything hoping for an update someday but I couldn't help it and had to go back to Cm. Battery life seems much better on the latest nightly compared to the stable version.
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If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
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tlazarus said:
If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
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I bricked after relocking and running ruu but to be fair I downgraded my hboot to 1.09 and am not sure if that had anything to do with it.. good luck..dunno why you would want the ota anyway.
It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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I have noticed that typically when things are not stable right away for me it was a bad download or just a bad flash. A stock based ROM like viper has always been stable for me and am currently using paranoid android also perfectly stable. In any case, once the source for the ota is released devs will most likely use that as a base for their next upgrades so I really wouldn't worry about it.
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If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it
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My CID is 11111111 and I have taken many OTA's. I have switched and changed ROM's and reRUU'ed many times. From Hong Kong to German to Telstra. Taking OTA's all over the place. I would say my phone has at least done 8 official HTC OTA's.
Not once has it bricked.
Is it some check AT&T ROM's do?
Personally I have found unlocked bootloader and supercid do not effect an OTA. Modifications to /system are more likely to be troublesome. They are likely to be lost or could even make the update fail.
See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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You're just unintelligent...
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See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
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Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
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Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.
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Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.
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Thank you for giving me a good laugh... The forums being kind and your intelligence level are directly proportional...because you're a stuck up noob you are getting the treatment you deserve...and your type is for the iPhone or better yet a flip phone from a couple years back you won't have to worry about software changes on that...I'm still kind curious what you're trying to get at? I'm a bit confused how you're comparing hardware and ruu and ota
Okay, really not sure how I am a stuck up noob. Or unintelligent, as I am perfectly capable of reading lots of threads where people who seem to know what they are talking about argue over one's ability to go back to stock using a RUU. I was merely looking for confirmation from more than one person that I could go back to stock using a RUU and then apply the OTA if necessary. My point was simply that if something came out that was not possible to implement via a ROM - i.e. a radio update, I wanted the ability to flash it. Without downgrading hboot, it appears that anyone with hboot 1.14 is STUCK WITH THEIR PRESENT RADIO. There is conflicting info out there regarding one's ability to go back to stock using an RUU and then apply the OTA in the future, and I was merely trying to confirm that this was possible. If you look in this thread, you will see one person say it is perfectly safe, and another that it will brick the phone. Care to decide who is right? I generally like to get a few opinions before I task a risk, but apparently you don't get that. It is a perfectly reasonable question.
Here's a straight answer.... That's a bit risky going back to stock through ruu than applying an ota I've seen many people brick that way idk if it's just because the cid is 11111111 or whatever but there's something in the system that the ota doesn't like and than rejects..though I do not see the point of doing an ota esepcially many involve huge security updates ie hboot as you stated which will probably result in no root. . I can confidently assure you att will bring out a new nazi hboot out with the jb update too...so my advice would be to stick to non stock and enjoy
Thanks - I appreciate the response. Still a bit concerned about being stuck on my present radio, but perhaps that will get resolved in the future. Have a great weekend.
I'm sire your aware but you can downgrade hboot
Thanks, yes. I've read the entire downgrade thread a few times. It appears that more than one person has bricked their phone, and that isn't a risk I can take right now.
What's so good about the official update that would want me to leave my custom Roms behind ??
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Nothing. Xda is all about rooting and custom roms. I have no idea why everyone is creaming themselves over something we've had for months now.
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Nothing. Xda is all about rooting and custom roms. I have no idea why everyone is creaming themselves over something we've had for months now.
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It's something new for everyone to flash lol
area51avenger said:
Nothing. Xda is all about rooting and custom roms. I have no idea why everyone is creaming themselves over something we've had for months now.
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I've been scratching my head over this for months now.... Why the heck would you go back to stock? Why even be on xda if you worry about stock manufactors updates... I don't freaking get it. My pooor OneX threads are being plagued with redundant posts... Its like a sickness has infected our forum
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Like I understand that stock is generally more stable and has some exclusive features however we are on xda a site dedicated to rooting and custom roms, why come here to discuss stock
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I'm glad I'm not the only one trying to figure out why everyone is trying to do the ota..like they think att brought something special to the table
I really don't understand at all. Yea, it's a new base, which may bring some quality features to something we already have. But those features will have to wait until someone bases their custom ROM on it and takes full advantage of those features. Flashing the Stock ROM will do nothing beneficial to your phone..
I've already seen someone brick their phone due to wanting to flash the Stock OTA. My advice is just wait until it's been made into a custom ROM. Would be way smarter IMO... Who knows. I'll stick to my Hatka ROM until the new ones come out.
Personally I think it's a whole mental thing. They haven't really "waited" for the release but read all the talk about att being dumb and not pushing an update so when it did release they sorta have a mental expectation it will be good (stock).
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Yeah it seems as though the threads are already starting to flood Q & A with ppl who bricked their phones who took the OTA...bummer
it's been know for that supercid will brick the phone since first jb sense roms were released,
although s-off and supercid is safe, i don't understand see why everyone isn't s-off though.
It's been proven by many that supercid and jb ota does not cause a brick.
Maybe it is related to those that can't soff until they fastboot write cid 11111111. Something whack that is causing supercid to not applied correctly for those users is happening.
I would say one of the one click tools is likely responsible for not getting supercid correctly, as many get there fine.
Supercid and jb ota is fine for most, a small number brick just the same as a small number need the extra step for soff.
Well I thought when you were doing an ota it goes through a security check and it finds 1111111 as the cid it wacks out..but the people who don't have issues doing the ota are people with s off because that bypasses security right?
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Well I thought when you were doing an ota it goes through a security check and it finds 1111111 as the cid it wacks out..but the people who don't have issues doing the ota are people with s off because that bypasses security right?
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That's my suspicion. But its not completely clear (at least to me) whether those with CID and were able to OTA without bricking had S-off, or not.
S-off bypasses all security checks, by definition. At least, that is my understanding.
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twistedddx said:
It's been proven by many that supercid and jb ota does not cause a brick.
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Again, I don't think its that clear or definitive. Even if SuperCID may be causing bricks (and there is strong evidence that it does), it should be considered by anyone taking the OTA, unless proven otherwise. And possibly even a PSA warning in the General forum. But I'd like more consensus for you guys on that, before I post such a warning.
ronnie498 said:
It's something new for everyone to flash lol
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This.
Went ahead and posted a PSA here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181929