[Q] The more I read, the more confused I get - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

New to Android, about 3 weeks now with my Rogers 1727R. I've been trying to grab all the good files and build my understanding of returning my phone to it's stock ROM if I have to return it or if I brick it etc. But I seem to have downloaded, from this forum, so many files, with different names and files sizes, I'm confused about what does what. So I'm asking any senior people here if they can tell me what I have, what it does, and whether I need it. Here goes:
Stock_ROM_SGH-I727R-UCKJ2-k0nane.7z - Think this is a stock ROM but un-bloated. It's 257 MB.
i727_stock_kernel_odin.tar - It's 10 MB, appears to be a stock AT&T ROM, but perhaps just the kernel, not the whole ROM?
Stock Recovery.tar - It's 6.08 MB. Downloaded it today.
Nandroid backup - 841 Megs with data.ext4.tar, system.ext4.tar, boot.img and recovery.img which I thought was a complete image of my ROM.
Look at the size differences. From 6 MB up to 841 MB. What the heck are all these files?

harry_fine said:
New to Android, about 3 weeks now with my Rogers 1727R. I've been trying to grab all the good files and build my understanding of returning my phone to it's stock ROM if I have to return it or if I brick it etc. But I seem to have downloaded, from this forum, so many files, with different names and files sizes, I'm confused about what does what. So I'm asking any senior people here if they can tell me what I have, what it does, and whether I need it. Here goes:
Stock_ROM_SGH-I727R-UCKJ2-k0nane.7z - Think this is a stock ROM but un-bloated. It's 257 MB.
i727_stock_kernel_odin.tar - It's 10 MB, appears to be a stock AT&T ROM, but perhaps just the kernel, not the whole ROM?
Stock Recovery.tar - It's 6.08 MB. Downloaded it today.
Nandroid backup - 841 Megs with data.ext4.tar, system.ext4.tar, boot.img and recovery.img which I thought was a complete image of my ROM.
Look at the size differences. From 6 MB up to 841 MB. What the heck are all these files?
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the .7z file is a 7zip archive of the stock UCKJ2 rom...you would need to use 7zip to extract the contents before flashing with ODIN
the .tar file you listed is indeed just the kernel, not the entire rom, and it is from the AT&T version
stock recovery.tar is exactly that. its the stock recovery to replace clockwork mod should you need to return to that.
your nandroid backup is the entire system, a direct image of everything you had on your phone when you created it. this includes all settings, installed apps, etc

the .7z file is a 7zip archive of the stock UCKJ2 rom...you would need to use 7zip to extract the contents before flashing with ODIN
your nandroid backup is the entire system, a direct image of everything you had on your phone when you created it. this includes all settings, installed apps, etc
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So let's say I wanted to get back to my ROM the way it was the day I bought it. The Nandroid backup was done after rooting the day I bought it. So if I uncompressed the .7z file, is that what I would flash to get me back to square one, or the Nandroid backup?

harry_fine said:
So let's say I wanted to get back to my ROM the way it was the day I bought it. The Nandroid backup was done after rooting the day I bought it. So if I uncompressed the .7z file, is that what I would flash to get me back to square one, or the Nandroid backup?
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the nandroid will get you back to the way YOU set it up. it wouldnt do squat for getting it back to stock.
the 7z file should take you back to stock.
its not complicated, you are just overthinking it.
a nandroid backup is YOUR backup, nobody elses. its an image of YOUR phone as YOU set it up. if you made the nandroid after rooting, and you restore from the nandroid, you will still have root, because its a direct image of your rooted phone. it will include all your settings, installed apps, and configurations.

That is very helpful. Last question.
What is a Stock Recovery file? You referred to it, and I see it's a rather small file, so it's not a ROM or Kernel. The name makes it sound like it's my stock ROM.
I know it has to do with CWM.
Any edification would be helpful.

Please keep questions in the Q&A section.....Thank you.

No recovery is not the rom. Recovery is like if u owned a computer around 1995 you had ms dos and windows well dos would allow you to make changes to windows that would not affect dos. Pretty much same thing. Recovery is where you flash the roms from but the roms do not change recovery. Cwm is clock work mod recovery . If you used odin to flash stock firmware tar tht woukd change your recovery from cwm to the stock recovery but i do now see we have a recovery tar where u can just flash the recovery tar but not the entire stock firmware tar.... to be honest id suggest doing alot of reading before you start messing with these things
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Get on youtube and look up videos by qbking you can learn alot from them there for the epic not our device but u can more understand the basics if u watch them

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Which is the 5.0.1 img file?

Note: OTA updates don't work on my Nexus 5 due to TWRP blocking them. Now my phone doesn't recognize the OTA update anymore (When my phone went to install the OTA updated and rebooted, it rebooted into TWRP instead and completely ignores the updates existence since then). To fix this I plan to simply push the factory img of 5.0.1 to my device directly. I downloaded the factory .img from Google's website .
However instead of a .img file i'm used to, I got a .tgz. I extracted that and got a .tar and then extracted that to finally get my folder with the .img files. However now I'm not sure which one to push to my device. There is a img file called "radio-hammerhead-m8974a-2.0.50.2.22.img" but judging by the file size, I don't think that's the correct one (only 45MB). There is a .zip file called "image-hammerhead-lrx22c.zip" but this contains multiple .img files, the largest one called "system.img". I'm guessing this is the correct one to push to my device via adb since it's about 1GB in size?
I suspect pushing the entire .zip file to my phone and flashing that would be bad as it looks like it'll overwrite TWRP?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Here's a lot of useful information about OTA's Check it out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217
You'll need boot and system at least,
If you plan on keeping twrp and root, you may as well just flash one of the flashable zips already available in the development forum
Actually you should have a radio and bootloader img file. First one is - as the name says - the latest radio software (which is needed for GPS, WiFi, cellular network and so on). Second one is the latest bootloader. I'd update them both.
From the zip archive you should only flash certain imgs - if you flash all your data will be wiped (factory reset). What img files does the zip contain?
Why are you pushing them to your phone? You need to flash with fastboot from your computer. There is not just one img file for the update, there are several for different partitions on the phone. Have a look through some of the guides in the general section. Also, flashing one of the stock flashable zips would be much faster, but why not learn a little as you update.
Vomer has a thread of flashable 5.0 and 5.0.1 stock Google ROMs. Don't worry about factory images because you will lose everything once you flash these and it's a much bigger pain imo to back everything including internal on your phone up.
snappycg1996 said:
Don't worry about factory images because you will lose everything once you flash these
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Not necessarily true.
You can flash bootloader, radio, and system without losing anything. You'll just have to reroot afterward.

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Is possible create a custom rom (remove vendor apps) from XXXXXXXX.tar.md5 file downloaded from sammobile and make your own tar.md5 flasheable Odin file?
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XXXXXX.tar.md5
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Removing vendor apps:
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I am interested in doing this without custom recovery, not zip flashable file, and not root.
xTxMIGUELxTx said:
Hi guys, i have a question...
Is possible create a custom rom (remove vendor apps) from XXXXXXXX.tar.md5 file downloaded from sammobile and make your own tar.md5 flasheable Odin file?
For example:
Original firmware:
XXXXXX.tar.md5
1.5 Gb
Removing vendor apps:
XXXXXX_my_firm.tar.md5
800 mb
I am interested in doing this without custom recovery, not zip flashable file, and not root.
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https://www.rwilco12.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=92
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