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Is anyone else struggling with the car dock and the speakerphone fuction not being on?
I keep setting it to remeber my settings and to have both music and phone going through the dock but when I get back in the car it only has music checked so when I answer a call it doesn't use the bluetooth to the dock
Any ideas on how to get this to work everytime? Could it be something I loaded into the phone? I have been deleting all my programs to see if that helps but nothing yet.
I am unrooted normal os...
A little sporadic for me too. Although for the most part it works. What do you mean when you say "when I get back in the car"? Do you mean you:
1) Get in your car, start car and drive off, all the time with the N1 never leaving the dock.
2) Get in your car, start car, place phone it car dock...
3) Get in your car, place phone it car dock, start car....
I know it sounds pedantic but I suspect the method you use can effect how things end up. Especially considering how the power to the Car Dock usually is interrupted during ENG start. Furthermore I am not sure if the phone can or does sense that it has been placed in the car dock if the actual docking happens before you turn the IGN on. This is only speculative though.
So what I tend to do is method 2. I start my car first, to ensure power is going to the cradle during docking AND wont be interrupted. Then place the phone into the cradle. This seems to work all the time for me resulting in phone audio connecting.
Also for testing, you will have probably noticed the little BT notification it the top margin grows ears >BT< when it the phone is connected to something via BT. Unfortunately it does not differentiate between phone or media audio though. So you will have the same indication there for phone or media or both connections being active. To test your cradle placement technique is working reliably, disable the media audio pairing to the car dock for a couple of days. Then every time you dock the phone in the cradle the BT with ears appearing will confirm you successfully have phone audio connected.
there's an app car dock speakerphone that automatically turns the phone to speakerphone when in the car dock
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there's an app car dock speakerphone that automatically turns the phone to speakerphone when in the car dock
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That app would be no good for this problem. The Nexus One is not meant to be in Speakerphone mode when in the genuine google car dock. It is meant to be in BT phone audio mode. It is the car dock itself that needs to do the speakerphone bit with its inbuilt mic and speakers.
I have my dock connected to uninterupted power so it works even when the engine is off, starting, running.
I'll play with at what point I put it in for fun but I don't think that will matter.
I just hate it when I don't do it and someone calls and I have to call them back or scamble to rip the phone off the dock. Hopefully 2.2 will give us a sideways menu/phone/contacts list as well ;-)
Hi
I've heard that there is an official car dock coming which will switch the phone into car dock mode. Does anyone have any idea how this might be done? Someone on one of the other forums tried shorting some pins in the usb connector but without success.
Could it be through magnets like some other phones? Does anyone have any ideas about how the phone is signalled which mode it should be in?
I'm using an app to change modes at the moment, but it would be lovely if I could do it all in hardware.
James
gw0udm said:
Hi
I've heard that there is an official car dock coming which will switch the phone into car dock mode. Does anyone have any idea how this might be done? Someone on one of the other forums tried shorting some pins in the usb connector but without success.
Could it be through magnets like some other phones? Does anyone have any ideas about how the phone is signalled which mode it should be in?
I'm using an app to change modes at the moment, but it would be lovely if I could do it all in hardware.
James
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can you tell me what app you use to change modes please? i've been trying to find it for ages now
I'm still not sure about how the modes are recognized yet, although I know it's done within the USB somehow, there are no magnetic switches in the Desire.
And for the apps, there are a few to choose from.
Nexus - CarHome.apk
EVO- NavPanel.apk
DeskClock.apk (there are a few different ones) for "HomeDock"
And there is an app to launch the 2 different apps manually; DockSimulator.apk.
You should be able to find all of the above in this forum, DockSimulator can be found in the market.
It's really frustating...
I've had a play around again with the data lines, but no matter what I do with them all I seem to be able to do is trigger PC mode. Some people have said that by wiggling the micro usb they can sometimes trigger the car mode. COuld it be something to do with the 5th pin on the micro usb connector?
I guess we may just have to wait until the official dock launches, and then try to reverse engineer it. I don't really like the look of it, as I don't want a suction mount and I'm very happy with the fixed Brodit cradle.
Using the dock simulator is a good second best, especially in conjunction with the free 'Car Dock' app available from the market. It seems to switch the phone into a mode where it never locks and the backlight is permanently on. It also switches on speakerphone mode by default, although I use a bluetooth kit instead.
Any further thoughts on where to look?
James
If You use a bluetooth kit I'm sure You can figure out the way to launch car dock mode once paired to Your bluetooth car device. I know for sure, that You can simulate car dock when the phone is charging using Locale.
As an update, I've found a great app on the market called 'Bluedock' which does exactly this. It triggers car dock mode when connected to a bluetooth headset (you can specify exactly which of the paired devices, so you it only triggers when in the car), and optionally when connected to power. Mine is set up so when it's in the charging cradle, and connected to the handsfree kit, it switches into car dock mode.
Well worth $1! The author also has written a free car dock replacement app also on the market which I'd also really recommend.
Now listed on Clove.co.uk
I haven't checked whether anyone's commented on it already but the official car dock is now listed on Clove
It does state that the NaviPanel is automatically activated when the phone is docked ...for my money it's dead expensive though.
Still listed as pre order on clove, i am guessing it will come out after the next desire update which will have the navigation software built in.
Wouldn't mind a price drop when it is officially released!
pure speculation tho!
Note: none of this works for the Car Dock in Android 2.3.3 Gingerbread (JVB, JVK, or JVO), due to a Samsung kernel bug/feature. It should work for the Home Dock. Car Dock output is fixed in Android 2.3.4 Gingerbread (JVP or later).
This will not work with any Cyanogenmod, Teamhacksung or other open source ROMs for any version of Android, including ICS, as it calls a closed-source Samsung module that will not be present in these ROMs.
Samsung's docks have external audio outputs that are connected through the phone's USB port. These outputs don't work unless you use the latest versions of Samsung's Desk Home and Car Home apps (kindly provided by an XDA user here for those that can't download them from the market).
Unfortunately these apps are not the greatest, especially Samsung Car Home. I wanted to use Google Car Home, so I did a little reverse engineering and discovered that Samsung's apps use this Android Intent to switch the external audio output on and off:
name: com.sec.android.intent.action.INTERNAL_SPEAKER
extra: state
extra value (Integer):
0 = off (sound through phone's internal speaker)
1 = on (sound through dock external port).
You can use this in a couple of ways:
1. Through Tasker: create a profile with context Docked and an Intent action as follows:
Action: com.sec.android.intent.action.INTERNAL_SPEAKER
Cat: none
Extra: state:1
Target: Broadcast Receiver
Or, if you don't want to use Tasker:
2. I created a tiny app (attached) that triggers this intent when the phone is docked and undocked. I've only tested it with the car dock but it should work with the home dock as well. It doesn't create a background service or use any memory normally, it just gets launched and switches the external audio output on whenever the phone is plugged in to the dock.
Update: v1.1 now has separate settings for home and car docks.
Known versions where Car Dock output doesn't work:
* Android 2.1 (all versions)
* Android 2.2 prior to JPX kernel
* Android 2.3.3 (works in 2.3.4 JVP)
Ringtone and caller voice audio does not go through the external port, only music player output.
I've only tested it on the I9000 but it should work with all the Galaxy S variants, at least all the ones that work with Samsung's Dock apps anyway.
Warning: There is a nasty "crack" when the audio output is connected so you may want to have your stereo's volume turned right down.
If you find this app useful please donate to the CyanogenMod developers: go to this thread and click the link under "SUPPORT US".
Tasker is on my ToDo-List, thanks for the advise, how to use it.
But for now I only want to use the samsung car dock with the google car home app. And your app should be the only thing, I need for that, right?
Marcenzeichen said:
Tasker is on my ToDo-List, thanks for the advise, how to use it.
But for now I only want to use the samsung car dock with the google car home app. And your app should be the only thing, I need for that, right?
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Yes, you just need to have the app installed. It doesn't create a background service or use any memory normally, it just gets launched and switches the external audio socket on whenever the phone is plugged in to the dock.
Tested it. Works great. Big Thank!
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Hallo beano, thanks for you help, it's ok your apk but the sound is no good it's no bass and low volume.
Please have you a solution?
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Hallo beano, thanks for you help, it's ok your apk but the sound is no good it's no bass and low volume.
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It sounds OK to me, what ROM are you using? I notice the Captivate had this problem and it was fixed by a ROM upgrade (here). Also make sure the volume is up on the phone as it does affect the external output.
Hallo Beano, my rom is js2 itv, now look your solution.
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xperseox said:
Hallo Beano, my rom is js2 itv, now look your solution.
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All the switching and EQ changes are done by the firmware, the app just tells it to do the switch, so I would try changing the firmware. I am using DocRom v9.6.6_XWJS5 with speedmod-k13c-500hz kernel from romkitchen.org right now. The bass is definitely OK with this configuration, I am listening to Mr Oizo through it at the moment.
Hello! I was hoping that someone finds the solution to this problem and finally get you!
But unfortunately, your mod did not work for me .... I have the original Samsung car dock
sold in America (one for the vibrant) and when I plug in the galaxy S to cardock putting in jack 3.5" my in-ear headphones, the audio continues to come out through external speaker,
just noise (hiss) from the headphone out and left with much in the distance as you feel
a very low signal (mp3 music).
With your application things have not changed for me.... I've never done a test in the car with the
audio cable, but it should be the same with headphones or not?
HELP!!!
Ah, I forgot..... I use a the Darky 9.2 rom with supercurio (voodoo) kernel and installed also the google car home app.
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Ah, I forgot..... I use a the Darky 9.2 rom with supercurio (voodoo) kernel
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I believe that's the problem, the voodoo sound changes don't support the car dock audio output. Try a different ROM.
Nicely done little app there...works like a charm on my Galaxy S 4G.
Thanks heaps mate. Ive been needing this for ages and i bet others have been too.
I use alarm clock plus when docked but had to make sure the Samsung app was running in the background to get audio out of the dock. Not now.
Thanks
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Any chance you could do a little mod?
Be awesome if we could choose a checkbox for home and car. Eg i use USB audio at the desk but not in the car.
Thanks in advance.
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@TheBeano
Thank you for your time effort in doing this.
I'm having trouble finding the Google Car Home app - it's not in the Android Market (for me anyway*) but is in AppBrain. However, if I try to download it via the bar-code link it re-directs to the Android Market & gives a not found message I've downloaded the Samsung apps you linked to and they both work for me, but would like the Google one too.
Is there any chance someone could point me in the direction of another link?
EDIT: I now see that GCH isn't available for many people & have found a link in the apps section of Robot Briefs
Off now to hack a micro usb lead to make the Samsung Car Home app auto-start + your solution via Tasker
*My phone is unlocked but has VodaPhone branded firmware (something I plan to change) & I'm on Froyo 2.2.1 - not sure if the VodaPhone branding is why I can't find Google Car Home
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Any chance you could do a little mod?
Be awesome if we could choose a checkbox for home and car. Eg i use USB audio at the desk but not in the car.
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OK I will see what I can do.
If people haven't said this yet, you're awesome! Thanks for this it was driving me insane!
Hello guys!first of all TheBeano great job dude.your app it's great.i use it with my galaxy s and car dock.it'a great because now with your app i can output my music direct to car speaker with 3.5 jack cable (dock to car aux).but when i receive a call it's turn to speakers mode.i want to output my voice call to 3.5 jack too, to have a nice car kit.any ideeas how to enable external output voice call to earphones .thx
How about adding an options to turn on bluetooth when car-docked and wifi when desk-docked ?
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@hms666 for this, thy to download from android markert Car Dock Home v3, Custom Car Home or other application and set this features from Setting Menu.when you'll connect the phone gps,wifi special icons will be enabled
I'm still in searching for an aplication that let me to speak from my docked phone using handsfree with 3.5 jack; default it's on built in speakers when phone it's conected in car dock and if disable the speakers the cal run normaly but if i connect the jack no sound there. With the phone no conected in car dock I can make a call with earspeakers.
L.E. I have:
firmware 2.2.1
baseband version I9000XXJPY
kernel version 2.6.32.9
FROYO.XWJS5
I think its important not to make this app do more than simply toggle USB audio output.
There are heaps of other apps to handle the other docked features.
Alarm clock plus
Car dock v3
Etc
All that's needed is to be able to select on/off for each type of dock mode. Car or desk.
Maybe a toggle widget for each??
I posted this in q and a but got no response. Do any of you thunderbolt guys know if it is possible to get the thunderbolt car mode interface on my EVO??? Thanks in advance.
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anybody know??
you could probably copy the HtcCarPanel.apk from the t-bolt to the evo.
Did you try Evo Forums?
You could just use google car home? Thats what I have... Even has settings to go in to car mode when it connects to a BT device you specify which is cool for me because my car stereo (Alpine) is BT and I use it to play music while in the car.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.android.carhome
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You could just use google car home? Thats what I have... Even has settings to go in to car mode when it connects to a BT device you specify which is cool for me because my car stereo (Alpine) is BT and I use it to play music while in the car.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.android.carhome
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Just to let you know, it won't show up in the market on the phone, nor will it let you install from the market website from the pc. Can't figure out why (no reason for verizon to block it).
EDIT: I think its blocked because of HTC Sense, since searching it thru Wi-Fi through Airplane mode trick didn't help.
To the OP, I recommend what capflya said, Google's Car Home is a better app than the Sense app. You can download the apk and install it manually, following instructions on this website. Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010105&highlight=car+home
I have the Car Panel apk in my ThunderBolt thread, I don't know if this will work on the EVO though since the frameworks are different and the car panel app might use the framework to run.
you can try it though, i have it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007520
With my iPhone I just had a kensington dock connector that charged + had an AUX out - so I got power + audio through the dock.
With Android it's clearly not nearly as easy
My car does not have native bluetooth but it WOULD be nice to take this opportunity (if it makes sense) to be able to effectively use my android phone for audio, gps nav (spoken directions) and handsfree calling (or at the very least, receiving calls)
What would be the best way to accomplish this? My AUX-in is in my center console, covered... so I could stick a bluetooth->3.5mm adapter there..
This SHOULD work for audio, GPS and hearing calls - but what about speaking on the phone? Phone might be in pocket - but even if in a holder mounted on windshield would mic be positioned properly to speak into it?
One thing i would really love is to be able to use GPS navigation while listening to radio, but I'm not sure this is possible. When using GPS I either have to ignore voice prompts or switch to AUX and be music-less or restricted to music from phone...
FYI I have a 2007 Accord - the AUX port was added in after
I have an aux port and I don't think you are going to be able to do all the things you want through the Aux port. I use the aux port with a HTC Stereo clip and that streams just music to the aux port from any bt device (I have a N7 as well). That is all the Aux port will do and all I want it to do. However saying that I also have a Parrot minikit neo which connects automatically when I have my llama profile to switch on bt when disconnecting from any wifi, which usually means home or work. Using the Parrot or anything like that, you will be able to use navi for voice prompts and answer calls at the same time.
No not ideal, but works for me. No it's not seamless, but it works bottom line. lol
If anyone else has a setup, please post up!
I don't think there's a seamless way to accomplish what you're trying to do. I've got a 2010 Accord and use a windshield mount and AUX for music/GPS. Works well for me. I don't think there's a way to listen to the radio and GPS nav unless you're just using the N4 speakers.
I've been using this in my car.
http://www.amazon.com/XtremeMac-InCharge-Auto-Bluetooth-iPhone/dp/B005UKLW0W/ref=pd_sxp_grid_i_2_1
The mic is located on the huge male end of the 3.5mm plug and if placed or mounted properly(somewhere near the driver's mouth), you may be able to talk clearly as well.
I don't talk on the phone while I drive, so I disabled that function and have never used it.
This item was on sale a couple of weeks ago for $20 on one of those deal sites.
Also bought a 3.5mm extension cable to plug into the aux port on the stereo.
I haven't figured out how to have the radio and GPS directions come out the same speakers either.
I just got this yesterday:
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Blueto...56633664&sr=1-1&keywords=belkin+bluetooth+car
It mounts on the dash and has a microphone built in. It is powered (and the power cable includes an extra USB port so you can charge your phone while this thing is plugged in). I am in love with this thing, it works beautifully. I paired it once and since then, when I get in my car and push the button on this device, it automatically connects to my phone. If I'm talking on the phone or listening to music, the audio is automatically redirected to my speakers (if you're on a call and don't want it on your speakers yet, just don't push the button on the bluetooth adapter yet).
It works to control the phone too, I can push twice to go to the next song (works in google music and pandora, haven't tested others), click once to pause, hold for 2 seconds and release to pull up voice dailer.
Sound actually seems a bit improved as well compared to the AUX out on the phone. I find the AUX out volume to be extremely low, and this seems to be a bit louder, although I haven't done any actual tests to confirm.
I built a custom dock that has a charging cable built in, so I get in my car, set it on the dock, hit the bluetooth button on the adapter, and I'm listening to music and making calls. No wires to plug in, no hassle. It's great.
A couple of things I still need to test though. I haven't tried GPS while listening to music yet, so I can't confirm that functionality. I also have not tried other voice functions from the voice dialer to see if I can have it play a certain song or other voice commands.
Kaitlyn2004 said:
With Android it's clearly not nearly as easy
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No... its not. But if you want easy... this is the way I recommend you go.
Unless your current in-dash stereo is an expensive aftermarket unit, just replace it with a new bluetooth enabled model. They are dirt cheap now-a-days and can be had for around $100-150.
While you may save "a little" money going with some crippled add on solution, a new unit will give you all that you are after plus a USB port for charging, all in a simple, single interface. Also, with add ons you may run into ground loops issues and other nonsense (which will take more money and time to address).
just my 2ยข... but I have considerable experience with a variety of add on bluetooth stuff, and if my head unit wasn't a $1500, double DIN, standalone GPS/DVD unit, I'd have yanked it and put in a cheap, new bluetooth capable unit in a heartbeat. I was talking to my brother on Christmas... he was in Starbucks getting his daily fix. Then walked out to his car where his new $150 Sony automatically picked up the conversation upon starting the engine, and I didn't miss a syllable.
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I just got this yesterday:
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Blueto...56633664&sr=1-1&keywords=belkin+bluetooth+car
It mounts on the dash and has a microphone built in. It is powered (and the power cable includes an extra USB port so you can charge your phone while this thing is plugged in). I am in love with this thing, it works beautifully.
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I've had one of these for a month or so. It works quite well, though I have some audio/volume issues due to my aux input being a soldered hack into my old Saab's radio. Not Belkin's fault. It works well for calls, pauses Spotify when Google Gnav is announcing turns, can pause or skip songs in Spotify, etc. $30 well spent.
Though after reading this thread, I'm thinking of changing out the car radio head unit for one that has integrated Bluetooth to do away with my hack. Found a well reviewed Pioneer on Crutchfield and Amazon for around $100.
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Check out JVC as well. They have good support for Android, with Pandora, and a dedicated remote app too.
Yeah, I don't seem to have any of those volume issues, and I get now grounding feedback or anything.
A new headunit of course is the ideal solution, but I didn't want to give up my setup quite yet for that option, and right now the Belkin has treated me great.
I did test navigation while music is playing (google music app), it just lowers the volume of the music while she talks over it. Works just fine in my opinion.
Holding down the button on the Belkin brings up the voice caller, and it strictly only lets me do call commands. Anyone know how to change this so that holding the button on the bluetooth device will open a different app on my phone? Specifically, Google Now.
For those with the belkin, does it automatically connect when you get into your car?
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For those with the belkin, does it automatically connect when you get into your car?
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I've been using the Jabra freeway Bluetooth speaker. Works great with excellent battery life. Auto connects when you get in car.