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I bought a nexus S May 26. I left my pre for it. I was happy with my pre, but the battery life had become unbearable (4-6 hrs) and the sales person was good. My opening line to him was, "I don't want the Nexus S bc it is last gen tech No dual core no gyroscope." Anyways I was talked into getting it.
Now the rumors are running rampant with news of the Samsung Within coming in July! (I know this does not amount to anything) I called sprint and straight up asked the rep if sprint was getting a galaxy S 2. He put me on hold for a min while he asked he higher up when he came back he told me "I can neither confirm nor deny sprint getting a galaxy S 2"
The Nexus S is a great phone. Although I have been able to make it stutter while loading web pages (engadget joystiq). The battery life is good, but anything is good coming from the pre with an old battery.
So my prob is do I return my Nexus S in the next 2 days and wait for the SGS2 to come out? Or be happy with what I got?
I am open to ALL opinions.
I would just get the SGS2. The phone is more "future proof", and if you're going to be running custom roms on it anyway, then all the more so.
Only reason I'd go for NS over SGS2 at this time is the stock barebones android vs the bada UI which I don't quite like.
I got my NS in January cos it made sense then. 6 months later, I can't say I would do it again.
Agree that SGS2 will be pretty much future proof. However, any improvements in hardware ( dual core) will not create any noticeable effects on daily usage.
My best bet is to wait I guess. And furthermore no phones are future proof
Hummingbirds are pretty much for now.
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dplate07 said:
Agree that SGS2 will be pretty much future proof. However, any improvements in hardware ( dual core) will not create any noticeable effects on daily usage.
My best bet is to wait I guess. And furthermore no phones are future proof
Hummingbirds are pretty much for now.
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Have you played with the SGS2? It just launched under Starhub yesterday right?
It's a pretty sweet device. IMO, the only thing the NS has over the SGSII is that we're gonna get ICS first. That's if you're gonna flash custom ROMs of course.
At this point, hardware-wise, SGSII is the best Android phone there is. It's got all the goodness of the NS but that dual core processor instead of a single.
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Have you played with the SGS2? It just launched under Starhub yesterday right?
It's a pretty sweet device. IMO, the only thing the NS has over the SGSII is that we're gonna get ICS first. That's if you're gonna flash custom ROMs of course.
At this point, hardware-wise, SGSII is the best Android phone there is. It's got all the goodness of the NS but that dual core processor instead of a single.
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Yes, but however I went to test the SGS2 I found that the software isn't as optimized as NS. And moreover, the ram management just isn't up to the mark.
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Ive owned both and will say that the sgs2 is hands down the fastest stock phone made right now. But the problem with both phones is that you will get bored with them very fast. If your like me that is.
Bottom line, if i were choosing between the 2 I'd take the sgs2 over the sns in a heart beat. The sgs2 is gaining dev attention fast and that will make it more fun.
Just my opinion.
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I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.
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I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.
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The GS2LTE is a 1.2GHz clocked CPU; therefore, it is an Exynos and not the 1.5GHz Snapdragon present in the TMobile version.
The Vivid, being the only AT&T HTC device (and since it's a newer HTC device, hopefully stock unlocked bootloaders), should have a decent following both in general userbase and in development. I get the feeling that the only reason why people gravitated to the Captivate is due to the fact that it was AT&T's only reasonable Android device at the time.
I've just been so frustrated with Samsung's stock experience on the Captivate and all the problems that this phone has been giving me, unlike my friend's rooted and near-stock Inspire 4G, that I will never consider buying a Samsung Android device again. I don't care how good it looks on paper; the Captivate did not really work in practice until developers got their hands dirty and fixed it for the rest of us.
HTC.......
the SGS2 is great, but HTC always gets the latest and greatest and the most dev support....
qwertyaas said:
I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.
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As much as I'm getting frustrated with my Cappy, I think I'm going to wait it out and see what other XDA members say about both of them before buying. Also, I want to see something official from the manufacturers and ATT on whether or not these are getting ICS.
I don't know about this (just thinking out loud here), but could the resolutions change after an ICS update? If it's possible, it would be worth waiting to see what happens after (if) they get an ICS update.
I really want to trust the specs from Samsung but after the GPS issues, the reboot issues, the poor camera quality, the lack of release updates (be it ATT or Samsung) - it's going to be tough to woo me back to another Samsung phone. I know I have a 1GHz phone with good hardware in my hands but my senses always feel like my wife's Nexus1 runs smoother and better on older hardware.
If Samsung (and all phone manufacturers for this matter) actually cared about the customer there would be one form factor across all wireless providers to help encourage innovative accessories and to help reduce the cost of accessories for the customer. Ok, now I'm ranting on a tangent. Time to stop.
The SGS2 i777 already has a good Dev base and continuing to grow already. The sgs2 i777 has in common with the i9100 as we that have/had cappys should know the i897 cappy and i9000 were like sisters and is HOW we had so much Dev support. Most the devs that I have seen already are stating that they are staying with the i777 and NOT moving to the i727 skyrocket.
There are already a few post over in the ATT SGS2 General forums debating this so you can catch up on it beforehand.
Basically it is an ALMOST FOR SURE thing that it is NOT the 1.5Ghz Exerynos chip in it since Samsung stated that ONLY test chips were ready by the end of this year and should make it into phones by the middle of 2012.
The screen is .2" larger but with the SAME 800x480 resolution.
It is Lte which is the ONLY GOOD THING I see in it unless you live in an Lte area now and don't stray out.of that area. The Lte coverage will ONLY BE 12 markets by the end.of the year and will take a few years to spread it out better.
Back to the Dev support, if you look into the tmobile section of xda you will see how slow the Dev support is there and how they have like 1 base kernel that is not tweaked much at all. The Dev base is not too good compared to the Dev base of the i777.
The reason I mention the T-Mobile version is it sounds like MOSTLY it is the same phone with the same chipsets just with a different Lte radio.
I came from/still have 2 of 3 of my cappys, went to the sgs2 i777 on Oct. 4th and Lte will be in my area by the end of the year. I am within the timeframe to return the sgs2 now but wont be doing it due to the Dev base and the similarities with it and the i9100. Which as we know the i9000 got all the updates and goodies which were pretty easily ported over to out captivates since they were similiar. The SAME is/will be true with the i777 and i9100. The i727 doesn't have a sister unbranded phone to port from so will likely be at the mercy of ATT for future software updates. The i777 should get ICS shortly after the i9100 well before att decides to give us ICS on either phone. So to make a long story short I am choosing because.of the Dev support and compatibility of phones already out there. The i727 will be a 1fer phone, one of a kind for the most part. Not wanting to start a i777/i727 flaming war here as each person will have their own ideas about it. That is how.it has already turned into in most of the post about this subject over there. Just giving my thoughts and feelings here.
Plus I have always qualified for an upgrade.on my line every 12 months as I did this time. So 12 months.from now Lte may be in a better spotlight with coverage, the sgs3 should be making its way by that time. The i777 sgs2 kicks ass for sure and I have not had any of the little learning issues/bad flashes/ test software as when I started out with my cappy last year in July. It just works without any of the hiccups. We had actual roms on LAUNCH DAY due to being SO CLOSE to the i9100...
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I guess it's true and I thought this before. If going for a SGSII, no point not getting the original - especially since soon ports of the International SGSII will be coming around and the Skyrocket might have different HW.
But the HTC is tempting as they usually make really nice phones - and there might be a good amount of Devs and people in general jumping on it after the Inspire.
Looks like the SGS2LTE has the Exynos 4212 just from comparing hardware specs. The 1.2Ghz version in the regular SGS2 the Exynos 4210. Throw "Exynos 4212" into google search and you'll see some impressive specs. It is supposed to have 30% better power use and 5 times more powerful graphics performance. I'm not an expert, but this is just what I think is under the hood.
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Looks like the SGS2LTE has the Exynos 4212 just from comparing hardware specs. The 1.2Ghz version in the regular SGS2 the Exynos 4210. Throw "Exynos 4212" into google search and you'll see some impressive specs. It is supposed to have 30% better power use and 5 times more powerful graphics performance. I'm not an expert, but this is just what I think is under the hood.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319484
Read on the Rogers version Qualcomm
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Posted by Mr.Junky on other post. http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4124&idPhone2=4130
Only issue I see is that it list the OG SGS2 as still having the FM radio and the pic of the Ltd version is of a i9100 or something with the physical home button.
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Once the chipset is officially confirmed exyons vs qualcomm that will be the deciding factor in ROM porting. If the skyrocket has the qualcomm chip, there will be no i9100 ports. The only chance of ports will be the TMo version, which should have very little likelyhood of being any better than the ATT version.
There is a lot of circumstancial evidence pointing to the qualcomm chip, check out the several large threads in the i777 Galaxy S II forum. Most devs chimed in and have said the i777 will be the only us version capable of getting ROM ports from the I9100, because they are so close.
There is no proof yet the Vivid will have an unlocked bootloader when shipped.
If you enjoy flashing ROMs, or want the most selection in ROMs, the i777 OG GS II will likely be your best bet.
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Can't decide if I should get SG2 skyrocket or HTC vivid.
I am returning my AT&T SG2 tomorrow.
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Can't decide if I should get SG2 skyrocket or HTC vivid.
I am returning my AT&T SG2 tomorrow.
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Ah, first world troubles. I seriously doubt either phone will disappoint in any showstopping way, with or without a substantial amount of developer support.
Currently I have a Galaxy S II Epic 4g touch on sprint. I will be leaving sprint for multiple reason and going to AT&T to get the HTC Vivid. In my opinion samsung makes better phones but HTC gives you a much better user experience. Here are some pro's and cons of samsung and htc (my opinions are based on my current phone the gs2 and my previous phone the evo)
Samsung beats HTC at:
Screen is better
Camera is better
CPU is faster
Sound on speaker is louder and more clear
HTC beats Samsung at:
Way better widgets
Screen is more sensitive
GPS actually works (gps on samsung phones are always pure failure)
Higher quality plastic
please dont get mad if you disagree this is just my opinion. I will be getting the white vivid and will never get a non htc phone again.
The normal SGS II is better than the Skyrocket. FYI.
The one real downer to the SGS II LTE that would probably stop me from getting it is the resolution is 480 x 800 pixels @ 4.5 inches = 207ppi pixel density?? REALLY?! I think the G1 had better than that
So the HTC vivid and the SGS2 Lte both have worse processors that the OG SGS2? One with 1.2 snapdragon and the other with 1.5 qualcomm?
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/3/2535251/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-pictures-hands-on-att-lte
Glad I am sticking with the OG SGS2
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Only downside now w/ the Vivid, is that it is plastic and not the usual aluminum unibody construction. One of the things that always separated HTC from Samsung IMO
Noob question: I don't know much about the new phones coming out but wouldn't the new nexus that's coming out be a greater or just as good choice. Just wondering because I always thought the nexus s had the most dev support and updates since it was a google phone.
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mossination said:
Noob question: I don't know much about the new phones coming out but wouldn't the new nexus that's coming out be a greater or just as good choice. Just wondering because I always thought the nexus s had the most dev support and updates since it was a google phone.
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It will, but not everyone is willing to fork over money off-contract; I've heard that they're changing it to allow multiple carriers to subsidize, but still. I am passionately avoiding Samsung devices from now on.
I thought Nexus is exclusive to Verizon in the US. Not much help for the ATT, Tmobile and Spring folks.
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It will, but not everyone is willing to fork over money off-contract; I've heard that they're changing it to allow multiple carriers to subsidize, but still. I am passionately avoiding Samsung devices from now on.
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What is wrong with Samsung? I have a SG2 but debating if I should get the Vivid or the Skyrocket.
Specs wise it seems like the skyrocket got the Vivid beat.
So here we are approaching the 30 day window for returns with ATT.
I previously had a ATT Galaxy 2 and returned it for the SkyRocket because I am in an LTE area. Well I love the LTE Speeds but I have some negatives with the SR and would like some input not flames.
Concerns:
1. Processor is not as fast as the Exynos and the benchmarks support the statement. As a result video's can get choppy.
2. Kernel Development is limited and moving slow.
3. ROM Development is limited and moving slow.
I could live with issue 1 since I think with development 2 and 3 will be resolved.
I am not taking potshots at the development members. I personally have made donations to several members in hopes of stimulating the development and I appreciate all that has been done but it's not moving very well. Each and every ROM has issues whether its MMS or LTE Support or SoD on the kernel development.
So do I stay or go? What are your thoughts are you staying or going?
Does anyone see any solid development on the horizon?
Overall I believe the device is not being adopted a a high enough rate and this is definitely caused by Samsung segmenting the market by morphing this device to each and every carrier. Which has hindered the development efforts for each of these mutated devices.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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So here we are approaching the 30 day window for returns with ATT.
I previously had a ATT Galaxy 2 and returned it for the SkyRocket because I am in an LTE area. Well I love the LTE Speeds but I have some negatives with the SR and would like some input not flames.
Concerns:
1. Processor is not as fast as the Exynos and the benchmarks support the statement. As a result video's can get choppy.
2. Kernel Development is limited and moving slow.
3. ROM Development is limited and moving slow.
I could live with issue 1 since I think with development 2 and 3 will be resolved.
I am not taking potshots at the development members. I personally have made donations to several members in hopes of stimulating the development and I appreciate all that has been done but it's not moving very well. Each and every ROM has issues whether its MMS or LTE Support or SoD on the kernel development.
So do I stay or go? What are your thoughts are you staying or going?
Does anyone see any solid development on the horizon?
Overall I believe the device is not being adopted a a high enough rate and this is definitely caused by Samsung segmenting the market by morphing this device to each and every carrier. Which has hindered the development efforts for each of these mutated devices.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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The sprint and at&t og sgs2 are the most similiar to the International one.
The ****rocket and tmo sgs2 are the mutated ones.
I was planning to get a ****rocket, but after reading about the LTE throttling, bad ppi, and snapdragon chipset, I decided to sell my og SGSII and go with the Note.
Lets just say, once you use the note, you will not be able to use small phones anymore.
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xAnimal5 said:
The sprint and at&t og sgs2 are the most similiar to the International one.
The ****rocket and tmo sgs2 are the mutated ones.
I was planning to get a ****rocket, but after reading about the LTE throttling, bad ppi, and snapdragon chipset, I decided to sell my og SGSII and go with the Note.
Lets just say, once you use the note, you will not be able to use small phones anymore.
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i would agree, but the note is not LTE ready if you buy it overseas so you can keep it. once it hits the US with LTE i will buy it and will not look back.
for now i am very happy with the rocket, i dont notice this lag in videos or ****rocket talk. i had the sgs2 for a week and was not blown away buy any means in the comparison. do what you will - ITS YOUR phone and you have to live with it. i plan on upgrading to either the nexus if it hits or the Note once it hits anyway so the rocket is just a short stop for 4 months or so till one of thoes drops anyway.
Quadcores are just around the corner. Its pointless upgrading to a dual core. I will gladly keep my skyrocket until i pick up my quadcore sammy device. 4 cores mabye 2 gigs ram and a big super amoled with lte is what im waiting for
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Quadcores are just around the corner. Its pointless upgrading to a dual core. I will gladly keep my skyrocket until i pick up my quadcore sammy device. 4 cores mabye 2 gigs ram and a big super amoled with lte is what im waiting for
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+1.............
Only time will tell as far as the development goes. I don't have a skyrocket cause no lte for me. Also now reading about the throttling going on I'm not sure if I care about lte anymore. Now another question for all you lte guys is who is going to return the skyrocket for the lg nitro hd lte coming out in about a week.
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nuwayman said:
Only time will tell as far as the development goes. I don't have a skyrocket cause no lte for me. Also now reading about the throttling going on I'm not sure if I care about lte anymore. Now another question for all you lte guys is who is going to return the skyrocket for the lg nitro hd lte coming out in about a week.
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if its not samsung, im not switching<<<
and it seems ilke it has the same specs as the skyrocket less the screen.
Earthsdog said:
So here we are approaching the 30 day window for returns with ATT.
I previously had a ATT Galaxy 2 and returned it for the SkyRocket because I am in an LTE area. Well I love the LTE Speeds but I have some negatives with the SR and would like some input not flames.
Concerns:
1. Processor is not as fast as the Exynos and the benchmarks support the statement. As a result video's can get choppy.
2. Kernel Development is limited and moving slow.
3. ROM Development is limited and moving slow.
I could live with issue 1 since I think with development 2 and 3 will be resolved.
I am not taking potshots at the development members. I personally have made donations to several members in hopes of stimulating the development and I appreciate all that has been done but it's not moving very well. Each and every ROM has issues whether its MMS or LTE Support or SoD on the kernel development.
So do I stay or go? What are your thoughts are you staying or going?
Does anyone see any solid development on the horizon?
Overall I believe the device is not being adopted a a high enough rate and this is definitely caused by Samsung segmenting the market by morphing this device to each and every carrier. Which has hindered the development efforts for each of these mutated devices.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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My quad score on here (stock) is way better than my infuse. Idc about lte. My phone is always connected to wifi so its whatever. Phones take awhile to get custom roms. Give it some time to settle
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the2rrell said:
if its not samsung, im not switching<<<
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+100...... ive owned htc hero. Htc evo shift.htc evo. Lg g2x. Htc mytouch 4g. Sammy epic. Sammy epic 4g touch. Sammy sgs2. Sammy sgs2 skyrockrt. Sammy moment.. Moto atrix. Kyocera echo.. and definately sammy is much better then moto or htc or lg or kyocera.
Returned my Skyrocket, ordered the Galaxy Nexus and not looking back...
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Returned my Skyrocket, ordered the Galaxy Nexus and not looking back...
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ordered from at&t?
is it available for at&t?
Only thing I don't like is the Nexus has no expandable storage.
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Returned my Skyrocket, ordered the Galaxy Nexus and not looking back...
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Nexus Prime or Original Nexus? If not prime then I see it as a downgrade instead of an upgrade.
Note is on my radar and that is one of the reason why I switched to blood sucking AT&T from Tmobile....... just so that I can use International phones.
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ordered from at&t?
is it available for at&t?
Only thing I don't like is the Nexus has no expandable storage.
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The "Galaxy Nexus".
Not the Nexus One or the Nexus S. I ordered it from Expansys-usa should be here sometime this week. Nexus Prime was just a name they used when the phone was being developed. Cost me $729.99 with a -$20 coupon code for the site. The no SD card thing kinda bummed me out and thats originally why I bought the SR over it but after using google music during beta and now that its out and free. I have realized that 16gb will be enough storage for me since I can stream all of my music through google music. The SR was nice but I really want that stock android experience and not to have to wait for updates from AT&T or samsung. I got burnt out on waiting when using the Infuse. How many times did AT&T promise Gingerbread for the infuse...
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Skyrocket is a nice device and we'll start seeing roms for it soon. Just give it a month or so.
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Skyrocket is a nice device and we'll start seeing roms for it soon. Just give it a month or so.
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I think so too, if all I was worried about was ROMs I would of kept my Nexus S but I love the LTE speeds......
I can wait,
Yeah LTE speeds are nice. But where I live there is no LTE. So The Galaxy Nexus was the right choice for me. Don't get me wrong the SR was a very nice device but I think i'm gonna like my Nexus better.
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i would agree, but the note is not LTE ready if you buy it overseas so you can keep it. once it hits the US with LTE i will buy it and will not look back.
for now i am very happy with the rocket, i dont notice this lag in videos or ****rocket talk. i had the sgs2 for a week and was not blown away buy any means in the comparison. do what you will - ITS YOUR phone and you have to live with it. i plan on upgrading to either the nexus if it hits or the Note once it hits anyway so the rocket is just a short stop for 4 months or so till one of thoes drops anyway.
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Exactly..I tried the SGS2 orig because of this Exynos talk..well it was slower than the Skyrocket. In terms of ROM, I have it working complete with 14 toggle mod, camera hack to use power button to click, 3200-3500+ quadrant (if it means anything really) without any special kernels no overclocking etc, no random reboots, no locks to freeze and take out battery etc., NO! SODs, no video lags (whatever folks talk of..have downloaded many videos and play them directly), no MMS issue at all !...Vis Voicemail etc all work..even modified the dialer so that have the Tmob type dialer with extra button for voicemail along side the button for the phone on one side and the messaging button on the other side.
only miss in-dialer video chat (3G direct..not talking of Google talk) that is there in I9000 (orig SGS not SGS2) ROMs and the Infuse (modified dialer there too for direct video chat)..the ROM for the Sky and the T989 do not support this (maybe trying to move folks to Google Talk..do not need that)..neither does the orig
SGS2 anyway
Even have a TMob rom set up for this device with all the above except Vis Vmail..even fixed in-call volume using I727 library files..
wonder what folks are complaining about..do not care 4G LTE all that stuff..it is fast no matter what..
however .lost 70$ because of this Exynos nonsense (in my opinion)..35 restocking fee to return and 35 to change from Sky to org SGS2 back to Sky..my loss the hard way.
I am not sure why everyone is freaking out on throttling. The SR is a nice device and I have seen no problems with the chipset other than some graphics like the default homescreen image and the boot image being slower than normal. This is no different than when new GPUs come out and all the benchmark apps and drivers have to be updated/optimized for the new hardware. Throttling only comes into play IF you are on an UNLIMITED data plan and you hit the top 5% of all other users on an unlimited data plan. For me around here, the throttling SMS came in last month at at about 6.5GB of usage but I never was throttled after using about another 1GB.
The SR is a nice device that I plan on sticking with until the quads hit.
My only complaint with Samsung in general is their damn bootloader code. But then again the laughs will be on those GS II owners as well once they update. hehehe. That would be a mute point if carriers listened to customers and actually gave them what they want or actually use vs. trying to force things down our throats. In my opinion custom ROMs beat carrier ROMs for one main reason - flexibility. Those authors usually remove the crapola and add back features the carriers like to remove.
Ill never return mine unless it breaks. Phone is too nice
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The "Galaxy Nexus".
Not the Nexus One or the Nexus S. I ordered it from Expansys-usa should be here sometime this week. Nexus Prime was just a name they used when the phone was being developed. Cost me $729.99 with a -$20 coupon code for the site. The no SD card thing kinda bummed me out and thats originally why I bought the SR over it but after using google music during beta and now that its out and free. I have realized that 16gb will be enough storage for me since I can stream all of my music through google music. The SR was nice but I really want that stock android experience and not to have to wait for updates from AT&T or samsung. I got burnt out on waiting when using the Infuse. How many times did AT&T promise Gingerbread for the infuse...
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Personally, I find spending $749 vs. $0.01 for something very marginal a little over the top, to be honest. In fact, I would not even consider getting a phone locked to 3G speeds even a marginal gain considering that it does not have any storage expansion. I would regard this as a downgrade. But different strokes for different folks, I guess. Yes, it runs ICS but the Skyrocket would be running this in a few months. In addition, as this is not a phone supported by a major carrier, it would not sell into millions and it would not create the accessory and development support that carrier phones would definitely have.
Now, regarding Android 4.0 vs 2.6.6. ICS is nice but not that nice. It really would not affect much of the functionality of the phone. What does one want to do that cannot be accomplished well in 2.6.6? I cannot think of much. Wow, now you would get to customize the bottom row of the icons and have resizeable gadgets and few more goodies. You would be bored with this in a day or two. Not worth the hassle. I simply concentrate on the functionality that I need.
Now, what I need is good OS-based voice dialing. That is not available even on ICS.
Main thing I want to do immediately is put a vanilla version of ICS on the phone. Are there any roms out there like this for either phone?
Main thing - remember the skyrocket has a qualcaum S4 processor while the S2 has the original exynos. Not to mention the Skyrocket is LTE enabled but slower overall compared to the ATT S2.
ATT S2 is the closest compared to the original S2 (one hardware button vs 4 capacitive touch ones) so i'd say that will get ICS rom's faster...
my guess is that s2 will get ics pretty fast
samsung should do that, since s2 sales are quite good in all parts of the globe
Also keep in mind CES is only 4 days away and there might be a mentioning of some pretty stellar new phones. Just something to keep in mind. Personally I would go with Skyrocket, but don't let me fully influence your decision
Data Speeds - Skyrocket (If u live in LTE area)
Everything else - SGS2 (including better AOSP support)
lilotimz said:
Main thing - remember the skyrocket has a qualcaum S4 processor while the S2 has the original exynos. Not to mention the Skyrocket is LTE enabled but slower overall compared to the ATT S2.
ATT S2 is the closest compared to the original S2 (one hardware button vs 4 capacitive touch ones) so i'd say that will get ICS rom's faster...
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More than 1 site (androidcentral, engadget) have done comparisons of the 2 phones side by side and said there have been no differences in performance as far as the human eye can see. Now, as far as development, I would go with the skyrocket. The skyrocket can run ROM's made for the T-mobile SGS2 and vice versa. T-mobile phones are always dev heavy.
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More than 1 site (androidcentral, engadget) have done comparisons of the 2 phones side by side and said there have been no differences in performance as far as the human eye can see. Now, as far as development, I would go with the skyrocket. The skyrocket can run ROM's made for the T-mobile SGS2 and vice versa. T-mobile phones are always dev heavy.
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im sorry but this is false. you really think the TMO version will get more than a fraction that the original SGS2 gets? (TMO USA, vs the rest of the world)
The OG SGS2 is the most active development variant of them all and the AT&T version can get easy ports unlike the Skyrocket. It even has CM9 already (WIP)
Plus the Exynos cpu destroys the Qualcomm in overall performance. Al lot of sites mention that the Qualcomm version is more stuttery and games arent as fluid, the homescreen gets jerky as well running heavy live wallpapers unlike the Exynos variants, plus the 4.5 screen models (SR and Epic 4G touch) have noticably less screen quality in color contrast where they looked washed out compared to 4.3 models and reported vertical lines issues.
Bottom line, Screen real estate and data speeds for web browsing and videos go to Skyrocket. Where performance and developent go to OG anf AT&T variant
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im sorry but this is false. you really think the TMO version will get more than a fraction that the original SGS2 gets? (TMO USA, vs the rest of the world)
The OG SGS2 is the most active development variant of them all and the AT&T version can get easy ports unlike the Skyrocket. It even has CM9 already (WIP)
Plus the Exynos cpu destroys the Qualcomm in overall performance. Al lot of sites mention that the Qualcomm version is more stuttery and games arent as fluid, the homescreen gets jerky as well running heavy live wallpapers unlike the Exynos variants, plus the 4.5 screen models (SR and Epic 4G touch) have noticably less screen quality in color contrast where they looked washed out compared to 4.3 models and reported vertical lines issues.
Bottom line, Screen real estate and data speeds for web browsing and videos go to Skyrocket. Where performance and developent go to OG anf AT&T variant
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The at&t version can't run the ROM's of the international version. And if you think that many at&t devs didn't convert to the skyrocket you are insane. I'm glad to see that you can debunk a professional review though! Another blind fanboy..
Here we go-
Skyrocket Development-3 pages
T-mobile SGS2 Development-4 pages for a total of 7
AT&T SGS2 Development-4 pages
Original SGS2 Development- 9 pages
So you say it is easier to port to the AT&T sgs2 but it just isn't happening. The skyrocket and hercules are significantly younger than the international version and already has 7 pages of ROM's, kernels, tweaks and hacks to the 9 of the international. Cold, hard facts.
Having owned both, I'd like to chime in here:
- The speeds on both devices feel the same. Benchmark all you want, but the feel is damn near identical.
- I actually like the size of the Skyrocket better than the S2, but that's completely subjective.
- The screen on the skyrocket does have a vertical line issue when the brightness is at the lowest setting, but even a quarter of the way up it's completely unnoticable.
- The Skyrocket screen has a splotchiness issue. It's really only noticable at the lowest brightness, and only against greys, but it looks like water droplets dried on the screen. It's not visible at all in my day to day usage but it annoys the crap out of me because I know it's there.
- Dev support for the S2 is incredible, while the Skyrocket's is good but still not AS good. The S2 probably has the largest dev community, but between the T-Mo, Rogers, Telus and AT&T community, there are plenty of good roms for the SR, including a CM7 alpha and an AOSP-like hybrid which is excellent.
- ICS was confirmed for both devices, but the feeling is that AT&T will push the official release to the Skyrocket first. This theory is strengthened due to the fact that AT&T has basically abandoned the S2 for the Skyrocket in marketing, pricing, etc. Once one of the carriers puts out ICS for the Skyrocket, it WILL be available for the rest of them.
That being said? You can't go wrong with either device. I prefer the larger screen (would have preferred 720p though), and I prefer a white device, plus I live close to an LTE area, so the SR was a no brainer.
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The at&t version can't run the ROM's of the international version. And if you think that many at&t devs didn't convert to the skyrocket you are insane. I'm glad to see that you can debunk a professional review though! Another blind fanboy..
Here we go-
Skyrocket Development-3 pages
T-mobile SGS2 Development-4 pages for a total of 7
AT&T SGS2 Development-4 pages
Original SGS2 Development- 9 pages
So you say it is easier to port to the AT&T sgs2 but it just isn't happening. The skyrocket and hercules are significantly younger than the international version and already has 7 pages of ROM's, kernels, tweaks and hacks to the 9 of the international. Cold, hard facts.
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ever hear of hellraiser? its a flashable zip that allows you to use i9100 roms on the AT&T version. So all custom ROMS can be used without needing to port. Add the pages you saw in the development section and you have much more than what the skyrocket will ever get. Did you know that the CM9 zip for the i9100 can be used too? one small tweak and you can direct flash and it works as well.
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/watch?v=DKvGzWn2wNk
BTW if you want to talk about professional reviewers and comparisons. Here is the faceoff of smartphone envy and at 4:35 he clearly states that the Exynos SGS2 has always been consistantly faster than its Qualcomm counterpart in benchmarks and real world use. plus you can see how the Exynos model has better screen contrast as well
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/watch?v=4RZedVdaEIo
here is another one from technobuffalo. 2:14 is where he states that Exynos is generally faster despite the lower clock speed
Any more "facts" you want to bring up?
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The at&t version can't run the ROM's of the international version. And if you think that many at&t devs didn't convert to the skyrocket you are insane. I'm glad to see that you can debunk a professional review though! Another blind fanboy..
Here we go-
Skyrocket Development-3 pages
T-mobile SGS2 Development-4 pages for a total of 7
AT&T SGS2 Development-4 pages
Original SGS2 Development- 9 pages
So you say it is easier to port to the AT&T sgs2 but it just isn't happening. The skyrocket and hercules are significantly younger than the international version and already has 7 pages of ROM's, kernels, tweaks and hacks to the 9 of the international. Cold, hard facts.
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Agreed with mike21pr.
Can you name a single dev that worked on the i777, and left to dev on the SR? I looked over the SR dev section and I don't see any familiar names.
If you actually read the i777 forums you would have known about the Hellraiser package mike21pr mentioned, meaning devs don't port i9100 ROMs. You download the desired ROM, flash ROM, flash Hellraiser package, boot, enjoy. Its that easy to use any i9100 ROM. If you followed the forums you would also know the i777 devs have a pet name for the skyrocket, they call it the ****rocket. I didn't see any dev in that forum at the time of the SR release that didn't vow to never work on the SR. That isn't to say there isn't dev support there, and that you can't team up with the TMo crowd, and that it still isn't bigger than the Vivid or Nitro forum. But, to make any claims that the SR is better than the i777 that don't directly relate to only the data speeds in LTE coverage (until you get throttled) is delusional.
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I know you asked about Samsung phones only, but I implore you to not dismiss the LG Nitro HD so quickly. I think the better two options would be between AT&T SGS2 and the nitro
The nitro has the Skyrocket matched or beat on nearly every single hardware component. The only spec that is better on the GS2 compared to the nitro is the CPU/GPU, which I think is beat by LTE and a 720p display. That is what my decision came down to, couldn't be happier. BTW, there is progress going on with getting CWM on the Nitro.
Whichever one you get, best of luck, all three devices are great in my opinion.
Now queue the "LG sucks go to hell" posts.
Having done research and searching (before this thread posted btw), I would choose the non LTE version. If I had LTE in my area, I would still go with the non LTE version. I don't own, but envy, the SGS2. I would trade my Atrix for it if I could.
First generation LTE is ok right now anyways.
Very interesting information.
So the key reason the i9100 ROMs can't be ported to the Skyrocket is due to internals (processor & radio)
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ever hear of hellraiser? its a flashable zip that allows you to use i9100 roms on the AT&T version. So all custom ROMS can be used without needing to port. Add the pages you saw in the development section and you have much more than what the skyrocket will ever get. Did you know that the CM9 zip for the i9100 can be used too? one small tweak and you can direct flash and it works as well.
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/watch?v=DKvGzWn2wNk
BTW if you want to talk about professional reviewers and comparisons. Here is the faceoff of smartphone envy and at 4:35 he clearly states that the Exynos SGS2 has always been consistantly faster than its Qualcomm counterpart in benchmarks and real world use. plus you can see how the Exynos model has better screen contrast as well
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/watch?v=4RZedVdaEIo
here is another one from technobuffalo. 2:14 is where he states that Exynos is generally faster despite the lower clock speed
Any more "facts" you want to bring up?
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Thats pretty funny, because when you go to their websites and the hands on reviews (not some bull**** youtube video) they say the t-mobile GS2 is an amazing phone. Benchmarks? Really? You are going to talk about benchmarks? That just shows how much knowledge you have right there. Another thing, how about you go look at the resale values on the phone versions...genius. Like I said...you are a blind fanboy. You clearly own an SGS2 and have issues declaring something equal or better. I bet the SGS2 just crushes the Nexus too, huh? What a joke...
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Thats pretty funny, because when you go to their websites and the hands on reviews (not some bull**** youtube video) they say the t-mobile GS2 is an amazing phone. Benchmarks? Really? You are going to talk about benchmarks? That just shows how much knowledge you have right there. Another thing, how about you go look at the resale values on the phone versions...genius. Like I said...you are a blind fanboy. You clearly own an SGS2 and have issues declaring something equal or better. I bet the SGS2 just crushes the Nexus too, huh? What a joke...
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Ummm... I own a HTC TITAN. Nobody said that the Skyrocket isnt an amazing phone, I (or should I say "we" since multiple people here agree and yet you only seem to have a problem with me) look past the marketing crap and know that the Skyrocket's main and only advantage is LTE. BTW I said benchmarks AND real world usage, i you watched the reviews its what they said exactly. I know benchmarks dont mean ****...
BTW now that u mention the Nexus: SGS2 has better cpu/gpu, better cameras, expandable storage, gorilla glass, and RGB layout not pentile, where the nexus doesnt, and ICS is a temp advantage because the SGS2 will have it too...
But, I would still choose the Nexus though because of the screen resolution and better support so you can put your pinchfork down and save yourself the childish fanboy naming lol
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I know you asked about Samsung phones only, but I implore you to not dismiss the LG Nitro HD so . I think the better two options would be between AT&T SGS2 and the nitro
The nitro has the Skyrocket matched or beat on nearly every single hardware component. The only spec that is better on the GS2 compared to the nitro is the CPU/GPU, which I think is beat by LTE and a 720p display. That is what my decision came down to, couldn't be happier. BTW, there is progress going on with getting CWM on the Nitro.
Whichever one you get, best of luck, all three devices are great in my opinion.
Now queue the "LG sucks go to hell" posts.
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I was blown away by the screen on the Nitro. But if LTE is the case, id choose the Skyrocket over it. LGs support is bad imo and their custom UI isnt that good either. Now... give me a stable CM9 on that hardware and ill rip it from the AT&T display lol
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I recommend Galaxy S2 because it has better speed also 4.3 inch Super display, bigger memory with 1 GB of RAM more specially a dual-core Exynos CPU running 1.2 GHz, and 8 mega pixel camera on the back makes Galaxy S2 a better option
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I recommend Galaxy S2 because it has better speed also 4.3 inch Super display, bigger memory with 1 GB of RAM more specially a dual-core Exynos CPU running 1.2 GHz, and 8 mega pixel camera on the back makes Galaxy S2 a better option
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Why resurrect a dead thread?
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BreetDaren said:
I recommend Galaxy S2 because it has better speed also 4.3 inch Super display, bigger memory with 1 GB of RAM more specially a dual-core Exynos CPU running 1.2 GHz, and 8 mega pixel camera on the back makes Galaxy S2 a better option
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I completely with you agree. My SGS2 very quickly works and it has no problems about a random access memory, as at SGS3.
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Why resurrect a dead thread?
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Nearly all of his 11 posts were at least a mild necro-post, some of them he really dug for. Probably his way of getting to 10 posts, but at least he tried to type something relevant in each.
Hi all,
I'm going to pull the trigger on a new phone shortly. I currently have a Galaxy S (Capitivate) and enjoy it.
I'm struggling between the S2 and the S2 Skyrocket. I saw comparisons online, but most were written when the Skyrocket first came out, so I wanted to see if people had some insights now that they've both been out for a while.
I don't really care a huge amount about LTE speeds, I think the regular 4G speeds will generally be enough for me. Though for future-proofing, all else being equal, I think it would be a plus.
Things I do care about:
- Global support (does the Skyrocket have more bands?)
- Being able to sim-unlock, to use global sim cards while traveling
- Battery life, being able to use the phone for a full day
- general feel and comfort
- stability and android speed
Is the original S2 generally easier to root/hack/unlock, etc., since it is closer to the S1? Some of the techs in the stores say that the S2 has some advantages over the Skyrocket because of this, but I'm not sure they know what they are talking about.
Any insight would be a big help!
Which s2, the international or at&t version? The international has insane dev support and I believe the at&t one has a little better dev support than us. I think they already have ics custom roms out. If you really don't care for lte then it really just comes down to which one you want. Idk about the bands though.
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We have ics stock, so aosp and cm9 are only a matter of time, so dev support in my opinion really isn't a factor. Battery life on an 3 is roughly the same to be honest. The international I believe has a 1.5 exynos, which is better than the skyrocket (1.5 S3), but not really noticeably so. And of course the Skyrocket beats the 1.2 exynos. As for radios and the fact that u want global support, the skyrocket is pretty much the only android smartphone with pentaband support, so u can use it pretty much anywhere. That's my 2c
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We have ics stock, so aosp and cm9 are only a matter of time, so dev support in my opinion really isn't a factor. Battery life on an 3 is roughly the same to be honest. The international I believe has a 1.5 exynos, which is better than the skyrocket (1.5 S3), but not really noticeably so. And of course the Skyrocket beats the 1.2 exynos. As for radios and the fact that u want global support, the skyrocket is pretty much the only android smartphone with pentaband support, so u can use it pretty much anywhere. That's my 2c
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International has the 1.2 exynos
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mossination said:
Which s2, the international or at&t version? The international has insane dev support and I believe the at&t one has a little better dev support than us. I think they already have ics custom roms out. If you really don't care for lte then it really just comes down to which one you want. Idk about the bands though.
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Both the S2 and the Skyrocket would be ATT US versions. My "upgrade"availability is why I am getting a new phone. Does this matter for development?
It is important for me that I be able to install non-market apps, and that I be able to sim unlock. Will the skyrocket be ok for this stuff?
CrimsonJD said:
Both the S2 and the Skyrocket would be ATT US versions. My "upgrade"availability is why I am getting a new phone. Does this matter for development?
It is important for me that I be able to install non-market apps, and that I be able to sim unlock. Will the skyrocket be ok for this stuff?
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Skyrocket's got great devs. I'd say go with Skyrocket. Nothing wrong with a little extra power, is there?
Horrible time to upgrade a phone in my opinion. Wait exactly a month and the choices are going to drastically change.
Your call though (skyrocket > i9100)
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yep i would definitely wait for the s3
I normally wouldn't condone waiting for technology as there's always something new that's just around the corner. However there are some GREAT phones coming out relatively soon.
If you don't want to wait, then definitely get the Skyrocket. I was making the same decision myself about two months ago. In terms of longevity, you're definitely going to want the Skyrocket. You say you don't care about LTE speeds now, but once you experience it you'll be glad you went for it.
I don't have a single complaint with this phone, beyond the abysmal display compared to 720p that seems to be coming out now. And to be honest, my phone looks damn sexy w/ it's Super AMOLED, even with only a 480 x 800 res.
Skyrocket all the way! If you care to try LTE one day you are able to do so, and if you don't care you get even better battery life with HSPA+... and for me, battery is almost everything, oh and DO NOT worry about pixel density, some reviews say the density is worse on LTE, which is technically true but you don't notice any difference, they're both great phones to look at
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I just got the Skyrocket yesterday, through AT&T. it was refurbished and $19.99 with a 2 year.
I'm enjoying it, battery life is a bit of an issue, but there is a pretty good extended battery on the market right now and, I saw a dual battery replacement pack for like $20 bucks on amazon, there are cheap options to fix those issues.
I like it and would recommend it.
Try some battery saving apps like juice defender and turn off your radios when you don't need them. I have extra battery life on my skyrocket.
smartnphone said:
Try some battery saving apps like juice defender and turn off your radios when you don't need them. I have extra battery life on my skyrocket.
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those are garbage and use more power than they save
icenight89 said:
We have ics stock, so aosp and cm9 are only a matter of time, so dev support in my opinion really isn't a factor. Battery life on an 3 is roughly the same to be honest. The international I believe has a 1.5 exynos, which is better than the skyrocket (1.5 S3), but not really noticeably so. And of course the Skyrocket beats the 1.2 exynos. As for radios and the fact that u want global support, the skyrocket is pretty much the only android smartphone with pentaband support, so u can use it pretty much anywhere. That's my 2c
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Skyrocket snapdragon beats S2 exynos?
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xcrazydx said:
those are garbage and use more power than they save
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How does it use more power than it saves if it automatically turns off radios when you're not using it providing you configure it properly?
smartnphone said:
How does it use more power than it saves if it automatically turns off radios when you're not using it providing you configure it properly?
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It takes power to run the program. It's just retarded, makes smartphone dumb. If your fine with that use it.
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Just give the phone a week or 2. The battery needs some time to discharge and recharge. I've noticed this both on my s2 and skyrocket.
I use both daily and Skyrocket is by far my first choice. Love the bigger screen
SkyRocket Radio vs S2
When I was storm chasing with a friend out in the Texas panhandle, I noticed that his S2's radio did a much better job then the radio in my SkyRocket.
On a Side note: I love the Galaxy line, but I don't think I'll be purchasing an S3.