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OK... so I originally had a rooted WiFi Xoom and then unrooted it to wait for the update then got impatient and re-rooted it to flash the update via clockwork recovery.
I'd like to go ahead and remove root and relock the device. I don't care that much about installing new kernels for SD card since I've got everything stored elsewhere and overclocking doesn't really interest me.
Is there a method of un-rooting and re-locking the device after updating to 3.1? I didn't see a thread on it yet and am unsure how much the unrooting method from 3.0 would have changed.
Thanks
I don't think that Moto has released the stock files for 3.1 yet, that you need to unroot and stay on 3.1. And there have been numerous pleas for help on this forum from users who have tried to relock and ended up bricking their Xoom.
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Thanks for the info. I figured I would ask before trying it since I didn't think the 3.01 files would work for 3.1. Guess I will just be patient
wcfarris said:
Thanks for the info. I figured I would ask before trying it since I didn't think the 3.01 files would work for 3.1. Guess I will just be patient
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Yeah, your best bet would be to relock using the stock images and then wait patiently until you receive the 3.1 OTA.
publicanimal said:
Yeah, your best bet would be to relock using the stock images and then wait patiently until you receive the 3.1 OTA.
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So to get back to stock from factory, the stock images will work with 3.1 rooted? I want to be on 3.1 not rooted. Thanks
Header says it all... and if the answer is YES, then a link to HOW to accomplish that would be greatly appreciated...
Many thanks...
You would need to root, install cwm recovery, flash a rooted HC ROM.
@basballfanz: how to root the 9.2.2.3 Firmware?
From my experience, once you are on ICS, re-flashing Honeycomb via CWM does NOT solve the reboot issues (you'll have them in Honeycomb too). The ONLY way that I was able to return to a stable version of Honeycom was to NVFLash a stock honeycomb image and go from there. But, since you have a B90, you can't NVFlash, so basically, I think you're screwed at this point....
There is a whole thread about returning to honeycomb via CWM and still having the reboots, etc.. Search it out...
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@basballfanz: how to root the 9.2.2.3 Firmware?
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Don't think there's a way right now.
Can't you modify/use an ASUS Ota update package and use the stock recovery to 'Update' to HC. Reboot issues will still be there though.
Edit: as in when downgrading for razorclaw root etc
Thing O Doom said:
Can't you modify/use an ASUS Ota update package and use the stock recovery to 'Update' to HC. Reboot issues will still be there though.
Edit: as in when downgrading for razorclaw root etc
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You can't downgrade on a stock tf.
The trick going from 8.6.5.21 to 8.6.6.19 to use razorclaw is technically an upgrade not downgrade. It was going from 8.6..5.21 to 8.6.6.19
Sorry I wasn't clear, I mean modifying a downgrade ASUS package to trick the Tf into Thinking that it's being updated.
Thanks for the version # clearup though X.x"
a simple rename do not work. Have taste it....
The tf see the update, reboot and start Update. But stoppt...
So what to do? Edit buildprob? Or what read the tf in Thema Update file ?
Get a hc package, unzip the ics package, delete and replace as needed. Probably need to edit build.prop too, and make sure the kernel flashes.
Or is a replace of the blob file the onky we need?
How is the chance of bricked?
Considering the kernel/os differences, higher than you'd want it to be, so I'd only do it as a last resort. Make a nandroid backup before doing any tinkering.
Cant do Backup without root. Thats why i want to downgrade...
Seems like a new method to downgrade from ICS to HC even for the non rooted users.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622628
THX thats works!
Can someone lead me or explain to me exactly what the s/n number means in terms of rooting and nvflashing. I have C30.
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I think the real question here is why would you want to downgrade to HC from ICS? It's pretty well known that a full system restore fixes most issues.
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I think the real question here is why would you want to downgrade to HC from ICS? It's pretty well known that a full system restore fixes most issues.
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Why? Because ICS is completely un-stable on ALOT of TF101's (if not all). Honeycomb was rock solid.
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McSurge45 said:
Can someone lead me or explain to me exactly what the s/n number means in terms of rooting and nvflashing. I have C30.
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First letter:
B=2011 & C=2012 manufacture year.
Second letter/number:
1=Jan 2=Feb ect till Oct which is A(hex)
So your C3O was manufacture in March 2012.
Only different is the SBK
ASUS changed the sbk mid July 2011.
miketoasty said:
I think the real question here is why would you want to downgrade to HC from ICS? It's pretty well known that a full system restore fixes most issues.
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Except, it doesn't.
Hi there,
I read almost every thread about no updates available and still don't found answer...
My tab was rooted and CWM installed.
because this is B60, I used NVflash to flash totally stock 8.6.5.13 from here:
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/tr...stock-3-2-recovery-roms-unbricking-tools.html
after that, I tried to use "system firmware update" but "There is no update available" message appears,
so I decided to update it manually, put 8.6.5.21 zip on sdcard and now have 8.6.5.21 android,
but still "There is no update available"...
I also tried to root this 8.6.5.21 put CWM again, used SuperWipe Full script, and again installed 8.6.5.13 with NVFlash, still same situation.
I also tried tricks with clear cache/data of CMClient and DMClient,
I can push ICS via NVflash but last version i found is .24, i tried this also, but can't get update to .27 and noticed battery draining during night,
my plan is come back to totally stock where OTA will work and give this tab to my wife.
Anybody can help me ?
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Hi there,
I read almost every thread about no updates available and still don't found answer...
My tab was rooted and CWM installed.
because this is B60, I used NVflash to flash totally stock 8.6.5.13 from here:
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/tr...stock-3-2-recovery-roms-unbricking-tools.html
after that, I tried to use "system firmware update" but "There is no update available" message appears,
so I decided to update it manually, put 8.6.5.21 zip on sdcard and now have 8.6.5.21 android,
but still "There is no update available"...
I also tried to root this 8.6.5.21 put CWM again, used SuperWipe Full script, and again installed 8.6.5.13 with NVFlash, still same situation.
I also tried tricks with clear cache/data of CMClient and DMClient,
I can push ICS via NVflash but last version i found is .24, i tried this also, but can't get update to .27 and noticed battery draining during night,
my plan is come back to totally stock where OTA will work and give this tab to my wife.
Anybody can help me ?
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Use BRK's tool and download the latest firmware from Asus. This tool works great and will even get you rooted after nvflashing 9.2.1.27 for you.
sidneyk said:
Use BRK's tool and download the latest firmware from Asus. This tool works great and will even get you rooted after nvflashing 9.2.1.27 for you.
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BRK tools is great "Everything in one place" tool.
I can use it to install ICS .27 from Asus web site, and this is great,
but I don't know if in the future OTA will come...
I tried to install 8.6.5.21 using this tool, and after that still had message "There is no update avaiable"
as I wrote, want to be 100% sure, future OTA will come.
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BRK tools is great "Everything in one place" tool.
I can use it to install ICS .27 from Asus web site, and this is great,
but I don't know if in the future OTA will come...
I tried to install 8.6.5.21 using this tool, and after that still had message "There is no update avaiable"
as I wrote, want to be 100% sure, future OTA will come.
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My understanding is that FOTAs will be allowed if you nvflash a stock firmware with this tool, so long as it's not rooted and you keep the stock recovery. All has to be stock and the proper SKU, i.e. US, WW, CN, etc. and it should work the same as if it came from the factory that way.
I have a rooted, deodexed stock(ish) rom and I still get updates, but of course they won't flash. I don't think ASUS is constantly pushing old updates since the only ones who haven't upgraded yet are either rooted or haven't used their tablet. The updates are incremental, so you need the current stock rom to update with the lastest OTA. The full roms can be downloaded from the ASUS site.
If you want to get updates straight from ASUS, then flash the latest rom and keep it stock. Otherwise, you'll just get useless updates that won't flash. You need a stock system and a stock recovery to flash the ASUS OTAs. No voodoo, no overclocking kernel, no CIFS/SAMBA, no XBMC, no nothing, no fun.
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I have a rooted, deodexed stock(ish) rom and I still get updates, but of course they won't flash.
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Exactly! Rooted rom or changed recovery don't stop to receive FOTA notifications, but will give an error if you try to install.
gee one said:
I don't think ASUS is constantly pushing old updates since the only ones who haven't upgraded yet are either rooted or haven't used their tablet. The updates are incremental, so you need the current stock rom to update with the lastest OTA. The full roms can be downloaded from the ASUS site.
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Something is strange here, and probably only Asus knows how it works.
I had rooted room, and my tab downloaded first update to ICS version, but of course I didn't install it. Now I tried to come bace to fully stock, tried 8.6.5.13, 8.6.5.21, and 9.2.1.24 and never received FOTA notification anymore.
Maybe my serial number is banned on Asus side ??? Who knows...
I spend a lot of time reading and some people had this problem, some not, nobody don't know the reason.
gee one said:
If you want to get updates straight from ASUS, then flash the latest rom and keep it stock. Otherwise, you'll just get useless updates that won't flash. You need a stock system and a stock recovery to flash the ASUS OTAs. No voodoo, no overclocking kernel, no CIFS/SAMBA, no XBMC, no nothing, no fun.
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I tried to come back to fully stock in order to give this tab to my wife, but if tab don't receive FOTA anymore, and I'll have to update it by hand every time using SD card it makes no sense to install stock firmware. Now I'm looking for most stable ROM and will install it. For now the winner is newest ARHD, but I still reading about diffrent roms.
To be clear, I think that ASUS only pushes out updates for the latest ROM. If you are on .24 or older, you probably won't get an update since .27 is the latest. This is just my theory. The updates are incremental, which means that you have to apply the .27 update on top of the .24 rom. It will fail if you try to flash it over an older rom, even if it is bone stock.
In your situation, I would recommend a custom ROM.
Gee one is right... once you root stock update won't install and yes its a incremental update and you can't install .27 over .21 it has to be in order (.21->.24->.27)... also you need a unrooted ROM to download and apply updates from Asus otherwise update will fail and u risk soft bricking ur tablet... I did that once coz I was having problems with 1st ICS versions....
If don't like/can't get to work then root it and install either android revolution HD or revolver ICS.. both are stock based ICS ROMs...
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Hmm...
Updates are incremental, this is true.
but... When i bought my tf, and come back to home, FOTAs coming few times and after one hour about I had nevest version.
Now, after NVFLASHing .24 I don't receive FOTA update since two days...
Somewhere I red, NVFLASH don't clean everything, maybe this is reason.
I would like to try, but i have no idea how to TOTALLY clean my tab,
I looked into SuperWupeFull script and it clean mmcblk0p1, p2 and p7.
Any idea about TOTAL clean ?
really dangerous way should be to execute dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/block/mmcblk0
but i don't know if it is good idea ))
this could break apx mode.
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really dangerous way should be to execute dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/block/mmcblk0
but i don't know if it is good idea ))
this could break apx mode.
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Why don't u try downloading older version of Asus and do incremental update.. say first version of ICS for transformer...
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I tried versions, ICS .21, .24 and HC .13, .21.
Every time, same message:
"No updates available for your device"
Asus might not be pushing any updates. I bet they stop as soon as they post the latest rom on their website.
If you use nvflash to reflash your TF, it will format every partition, but you have to use the --create flag. If you just download the system or recovery, it won't touch the other partitions.
Ok, so, I would like to have some input on the BEST way to keep root and/or unlock before taking the upcoming JB update.
Had a TF300, and on their forums, best advice was to root BEFORE JB ugrade, utilizing Voodoo OTA rootkeeper to keep root.
But, what I did not catch was, if you unlock boot loader, will the device still get the OTA to JB?
Because, Asus unlock tool only works on ICS. So, do I wait to unlock till after JB, and hope Asus provides JB unlock tool?
Or do it before JB upgrade, but after I get notification of Asus Firmware Upgrade?
Haha I was actually in the process of rooting/unlocking and after reading this post, I think i'm going to hold off until my buddy here gets his questions answered. Good questions to ask.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803343
I'm gonna go ahead with unlocking and use the above info to install OTA JB i reckon.
So, If the TF300 forums are indicitive of what we should do, root before JB is THE only way to do root...can NOt be done after JB.
But the unlock bootloader is what I am ignorant on.....still OTA with unlocked bootloader, that is my main concern...
as long as you have a stock recovery then you should be fine. its when you flash a modded recovery that makes it a little icky. make sure you have voodoo to retain root or you will lose root (most cases) and if you have a unlocked bootloader then make sure you have stock recovery.
Best advice is go ahead and root if you really want to, but wait until after jb is released to unlock the bootloader
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as long as you have a stock recovery then you should be fine. its when you flash a modded recovery that makes it a little icky. make sure you have voodoo to retain root or you will lose root (most cases) and if you have a unlocked bootloader then make sure you have stock recovery.
Best advice is go ahead and root if you really want to, but wait until after jb is released to unlock the bootloader
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The way things have always worked on my other devices is that its best to root and unlock now because someone will have a rooted version of the update ready to flash in no time. We've already got at least one great and committed developer (Zeus) and there are more waiting for Jellybean to drop. Custom roms are so much better than stock.
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The way things have always worked on my other devices is that its best to root and unlock now because someone will have a rooted version of the update ready to flash in no time. We've already got at least one great and committed developer (Zeus) and there are more waiting for Jellybean to drop. Custom roms are so much better than stock.
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i dont see what that has to do with what i said... while i agree with you, i was answering the question.
To the OP
If you unlock you will not receive the OTA update regardless. If you download and flash it won't you brick your device as once unlocked any ASUS builds/updates brick?
If rooted (not unlocked), and used Titanium to Freeze apps will we need to un-freeze the apps to OTA JB?
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If rooted (not unlocked), and used Titanium to Freeze apps will we need to un-freeze the apps to OTA JB?
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If I was going to take the ota I would completely wipe/factory reset first just like flashing any other rom.
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i dont see what that has to do with what i said... while i agree with you, i was answering the question.
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Sorry, I just hit reply to the wrong comment.
sumnerm1 said:
Ok, so, I would like to have some input on the BEST way to keep root and/or unlock before taking the upcoming JB update.
Had a TF300, and on their forums, best advice was to root BEFORE JB ugrade, utilizing Voodoo OTA rootkeeper to keep root.
But, what I did not catch was, if you unlock boot loader, will the device still get the OTA to JB?
Because, Asus unlock tool only works on ICS. So, do I wait to unlock till after JB, and hope Asus provides JB unlock tool?
Or do it before JB upgrade, but after I get notification of Asus Firmware Upgrade?
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If you want to use the OTA update than my best advice is to stay with the stock firmware, no root and no unlock. OTA updates with rooted devices are like the lottery could work for one user and don't work for another and mostly because after you root the device you will start messing with system filles, you will try various tweaks, etc.
As for the Asus Unlock Tool it seems that is working well on Jelly Bean, at least for the TF300 device.So imo you have this options:
1) Stay stock and without rooting so you will get OTAs just fine ( and have no guarantee that you can root after JB update)
2) Stay stock but root your device and pray that OTA update and Root keeper will work just fine
3) Unlock and root/install a custom rom now then wait until Asus will upload JB firmware on their site (in this case you need to manually install JB but you don't need to worry about rooting because with an unlocked device rooting is working on JB.
PS: To be honest i find this kind of threads a bit pointless because we don't have an ETA for Jelly Bean so maybe when this come out we already have a working root method for JB.
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Why would you not be able to root with JB?
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As long as ASUS releases Source Code and the Full ROM ZIP shortly after the OTA hits the device.
You can Unlock and root now because there will be a JB ROM with Root very soon.
Yes with Unlock and Root you don't get OTA, but you can still flash the Full-ROM ZIP from ASUS as soon as they release it.
And I'm sure there will be a rooted stock ROM not a day after the Full-ROM and Source Code is available.
Thats why I choosed ASUS Tablet!
Hey all, just got my TF700 on Friday. So stoked.
I am about to root my tablet, but I want to make sure the current tools with work (sparkym3 and Debugfs) with the newest update. I would rather root the latest release than root what I have and use Voodoo. I have had issues doing that in the past.
My current firmware is IML74K.US_epad-9-4-5.26-20120720
How many update as I away from current? Will the current tools work with the most recent updates? Which method do you guys recommend?
Thanks!
I have not been able to get those two methods to work for me on the newest update. I think I am a rare exception, most seem to have success. I have even returned a tablet becuase of defect and the second would not root either. It wasnt a big deal because i knew i was going to unlock the bootloader and then i could install a custom recovery and rom and achieve root that way. If you are planning on unlocking I suggest you do a little more research in the NVFlash page because if you update from your current firmware that will no longer be an option. Just my 2 cents
(Imo) i would just root what you have now and use voodoo. Checkout the nvflash thread while your at it. ( doesn't work with .30 update, i wish i had noticed that before i upgraded to .30 )
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I know it was mentioned but just for good measure... If you plan on unlocking at all make sure you do it before upgrading to .30 so that you can get nvflash setup for your device.
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Is .30 the next update? How many update am I away from current?
I have some thinking to do, I wasn't planning on unlocking (at least until CM and AOKP officially support the TF700) but if NvFlash won't work on any other updates I may need to rethink.
And to be honest, I don't really see the purpose in unlocking. I ROMed my TF101 but ASUS does such a good job of only altering AOSP with small (and beneficial) changes I may just leave my Infinity as is. Especially if I have to stick with the shipped firmware and once I update NvFlash won't work. I guess I can always just flash ROMs without NvFlash though...
But my two questions above still stand.
One more question as this is the first device I have owned that had NvFlash available. What is the benefit of having NvFlash vs just CWM? Just protection in case I do something really stupid?
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You are one update away from the latest which is .30. (soon to be two) The debugfs root method will root you.
you should check out my thread on root and jellybean: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908304
Nvflash allows you to flash anything even if the bootloader is corrupted or prevents it, it also allows you to downgrade when the bootloader prevents it e.g. .30 to .26. it is also required to flash custom bootloaders which is useful if someone develops a dual-boot bootloader. You can even relock and reunlock your bootloader with nvflash. If you don't plan on using non-stock fw though, stay locked so that you can get your updates and support.
Thanks for the help guys.
So what I'm thinking is just to root, unlock, and NOT flash NvFlash. It isn't terribly dangerous not to use right? I mean as long as I have CWM installed I am pretty safe unless I do something completely stupid right?
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I_EAT_BABIES said:
Thanks for the help guys.
So what I'm thinking is just to root, unlock, and NOT flash NvFlash. It isn't terribly dangerous not to use right? I mean as long as I have CWM installed I am pretty safe unless I do something completely stupid right?
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If you have .26 and are going to unlock, you may as well create your nvflash files. It isn't so much as flashing nvflash. Nvflash is already hardcoded in the tegra chip. You would just be creating the encrypted files needed to utilize it on your device. You save these in triplicate in case the worst happens. Unlocking is necessary for generating the nvflash files, but it voids your warranty and leaves you unable to recieve OTAs (you can still update manually using methods listed in the development forums).
I'm not explicitly recommending that you unlock, but if you do, it's best to do it on the .26 update, so you can get those nvflash files from your device.
So if I do install NvFlash can I still waiting install official updates from Asus by downloading them from Asus website?
I really want to try Asus's stock Jelly Bean ROM, so anything that removes that as an option is not for me.
Thanks for the clarification.
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you don't install nvflash. you use it to interface with the device's apx mode.
as for the official firmwares, you can still install those even if you are unlocked. you just have to do it manually.
Yup, you can just download the firmware zip from asus's website:
http://www.asus.com/Tablet/Transformer_Pad/ASUS_Transformer_Pad_Infinity_TF700T/#download
Unzip it once(it'l be another zip) and flash that in TWRP. (not sure if it works in cwm. I am biased but I definately recommend twrp:angel Make sure you uncheck flash recovery. reinstall recovery using fastboot because the update deletes it.
I_EAT_BABIES said:
So if I do install NvFlash can I still waiting install official updates from Asus by downloading them from Asus website?
I really want to try Asus's stock Jelly Bean ROM, so anything that removes that as an option is not for me.
Thanks for the clarification.
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No, you need to unlock to take a bootloader backup, which you will not able to take OTA Jelly Been, however, you can download the new Jelly Bean from Asus website and manually flash it.
OK I feel like I understand now. There really aren't any downsides to setting up NvFlash (Asus warranty not an issue, I have Best Buy's super program where I can return the tablet even if I just scratch the screen if I want to).
My initial impression was that if I unlocked I would not be able to update any stock firmware period, and that if I set up NvFlash I could not move from .26.
If I understand correctly I just have to be on .26 to set up NvFlash, and can manually install official Asus firmware after unlocking.
Thanks for the help all! I am not new to flashing ROMs etc. but have never had the ability to use NvFlash.
Have a great night all!