Hi all,
Was hoping I could get a bit of help with my dilema!!!
I am due for an upgrade at the end of this month and cannot make up my mind as to which mobile to go for!
Over the last 12 months I have been learning to develop applications for android while on a work placement via my University. I have found this to be a steep learning curve as my Java knowledge was very limited, will I continue? not sure yet...! But, I do like the HTC Desire HD whether developing android apps or not.
On the otherside of the coin.....
Next year (this coming October) I will be learing to develop Windows phone 7 applications while on my third and final year. While I am still a novice with Silverlight and Expression Blend, I have had some considerable experience over the last 2 years writing C# code to develop Windows forms and ASP.Net sites, and have looked into developing for WP7 and feel quietly confident that this will be better than my experience developing for android.
I have never held a WP7 let alone used one and have read a number of negative reviews online about them. However, due to the areas I will be studying next year and my current knowledge I cannot decide on what handset to get, and as my contract will be for 2 years I want to make sure im stuck with the right one!
I havn't got a clue as to which WP7 is the best and am not fixed on the HTC Desire HD either...
I would like to hear from both android and WP7 developers / consumers your views on both OS's and preferred handsets.... from both a developers and a consumers point of view...... Also if there is anything that should be avoided i.e. specific versions of android / WP7 OS's?
Thanks guys!
I'm much like several of the people who bought TouchPads in the recent firesale. I absolutely love WebOs and the device in general but the thing that's bothering me is that the app selection is absolutely horrible! I know that there is an Android App Emulator on the PlayBook, is it possible for something like that to show up on the TouchPad? I love WebOS and I don't really want to give it up for only Android. I'm sure tons of people would really like something like this on their new Touchpads. Thanks!
Sounds like a great idea hmm...
I agree. I think that porting Dalvik to WebOS might be the best move to give us the Android apps and still let us easily use Linux, including ubuntu apps.
Well the problem would be the license..
lol...good point
license issues?
I thought it was opensource/freeware? How else could Cyanogen, etc., do what they do?
is it possible to port alien dalvik to the TouchPad? We should get some developers on this.
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is it possible to port alien dalvik to the TouchPad? We should get some developers on this.
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You took the words right out of my mouth!!
I'm actually trying to find developers for the exact same thing. It should be doable. Alien Dalvik was made in Qt which was ported to WebOS so in theory it's entirley doable. the only question is if there are any developers free to take it on that aren't currently working on a full Android OS port.
I'd really like to get a development team set up for this because alot of people would like to keep WebOS and just have a larger app catalog.
Yeah, exactly what I was thinking. We should look for a dev who could possibly have experience it Qt, though that's not completely necessary. If we gain more support, I'll post a dev thread.
I can't offer anything other than Beer/Pizza money but this is a great idea. WebOS is generally well reviewed and not looked at as a problem so much as a benefit. The OS is solid. The App Catalog is not.
Android Emulator :-D
I would love see a emulator on my TP. I would like to be able to place Android on the device I still much prefer the UI and design on WebOS even though Android is far more capable.
I'm happy to donate to this cause should someone take it up
alien dalvik is not open source, however, dalvik in general as well as the whole android os is under the apache license, this can be modified, forked and reworked (such as myriad turbo/alien dalvik) without having to release the source, its obviously possible... But you know what would be easier, porting android as a whole... Even dual booting would be easier.
Well the allure of this is having the superior Android app selection on the arguably better tablet experience of WebOS. If that were made possible - I wouldn't care about having Android on the device.
I couldn't agree more. As an OG Pre owner I love webOS but couldn't fight everything I can do with Android.
If I could get all my Android apps and keep my TP the way it is would be perfect.
The problem with porting Android right now is we have to use 2.3 which is for phones and not 3.2. I would rather either wait for ICS/4.0 for a port or just get the app market working.
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That settles it there are enoght people interested in having a standalone WebOs android app emulator without having full android.. I'm starting a development thread, doing some preliminary work, and going to look for a few interested developers to work with on getting this going. My touchpad comes tomorrow so then i can really get into it..
Thanks Roto I was just about to do the same.
also, Roto post a link
Up. Beer on me
Here is the link to the development thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16904876#post16904876
Failhard since you and I were the first to put in work on this idea i'd like you to help me head the project and find volunteer talent if you're up to it.
I took a look into what goes into a Dalvik port... it's TOTALLY doable just a matter of time and effort..
Unfortunately after i return to college in a week time will be in short supply for me so ALL help is appreciated!
I had never used WebOS before getting a tablet this last weekend. I have been an android fan for smartphones for now (I am willing to move to something better when it is available, otherwise stick to what works). I am a web designer/user interface designer and since starting using WebOS this last weekend, when it comes to the OS and its default apps that come with it, it is clear WebOS has the best user interface of the tablets (I used both iOS and Android OSes 1.5-3.2, Windows 7 tablets don't really count as a tablet OS and that is clear when using it on tablets).
The Android Emulator would be a great idea, but if you want quick development specifically for WebOS, we need to get a program created that can easily and painlessly port android apps to WebOS apps. Also it will take HP courting and reassuring the big players like Netflix, Hulu, Corporate IT Software Development companies that WebOS is viable and have continued support.
HP/WebOS only has a short amount of time to really establish itself. Next summer is rumored to be Windows 8 release and Windows 8 tablets coming. If Windows 8 can create a good tablet interface (WebOS is the one to beat imo atm as it has the number 1 interface), plus it's strong backing of games, program/application support and being able to integrate phone, xbox, tablet, and PC (Desktops and Laptops). Windows 8 is the biggest threat to anyone in the tablet market at the moment imo and they have been very successful in many of their endeavors as of late ("don't poke the sleeping giant" comes to mind, google and Apple have done that).
Due this short Window of time (pun partially intended), we have to establish WebOS as a main competitor to Google and Apple and prepare it for the onslaught of Windows 8. We need to work as a community to get things rolling and we need to push HP to court the big players in the industry to produce apps and content for WebOS and to continue further development on the operating system on their end. If we as a community and HP execute right, it will be a very exciting year coming up.
Would it be possible to put Android on a Playbook? It would run like butter on that glorious dual core Snapdragon and 1gb of RAM. I've played with one for a few minutes in a store, and it's a solid device. I'd personally love to have a Playbook if it ran Android. That's one of the reasons I want a Kindle Fire, it's basically a Playbook running Amazon's version of Android, and I presume it'll be cracked and vanilla Android would be put on there at some point.
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Android running on Playbook?
I am considering buying one of them too considering it is a flash capable device now priced at $299.00 for the 16GB model...very enticing indeed. Anyone on xda know if this can be done?
Would make a wonderful community project
At $199, this would be a much better value than the Kindle Fire or the Nook Tablet. One catch though... XDA Dev support! Any progress on rooting and hacking this thing?
If not yet, then maybe once Black Friday hits!
http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/09/staples-slashes-playbook-price-to-199-on-black-friday/
IIRC, the general consensus on this by any potential devs was that it was gonna be way too difficult to be worth it.
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At $199, this would be a much better value than the Kindle Fire or the Nook Tablet. One catch though... XDA Dev support! Any progress on rooting and hacking this thing?
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Rooting is taken care of by Dingleberry, and there are a bunch of devs over at Crackberry who seem to be doing a bunch of stuff.
Hey XDA-Developers!
Today I decided to sell my iPad 2 to my mother (who needs one) for $200 and buy the 3rd generation tablet. After deducting the iPad 3rd gen from my taxes this year, it will come to about $200 to upgrade (which is worth it, IMO).
Anyways, I was looking at places to purchase an iPad 3rd generation when it hit me: "Why don't I get an Android tablet?"
I'm a big fan of Android on phones. However, due to the limited App category Android Tablets has, I've been leaning towards the 3rd generation iPad.
I love the customization and openness of Android - but I also love the huge variety and selection of Apps on the iPad.
I'm open to any suggestions, comments, advice, etc on this matter. I'd love to hear from someone who went from an iPad to an an Android tablet - or the other way around.
Thanks!
P.S: If I do decide to get an Android Tablet, I will most likely get the ASUS Transformer Prime.
iPad does not, and has never seemed like a tablet OS to me. Even though the, "improvements" on the third Gen seem minute to me and not worth the update, it's the better option.
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I think - and hope - that the tablet optimized app section will grow.
I LOVE Android on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and I would never switch to iPad.
But in the end YOU have to know if there are apps on iPad that you really need...
I think you should search in the Market Play Store if you find all what you need. If you do, there is no reason why not to try an Android Tablet.
i think it depends..
im on mac os and id choose the ipad because its just easier and more comfortable to sync and stuff..
if id be on windows id choose the galaxy tab.
i think both have pros and contras
maybe you can lend at a shop and try both
Hi guys, I am in the process of bringing an Android tablet to market and unlike other OEMs I really want to do it right which means partnering with the Android community from the very beginning. What advice can you guys give me to make the best Android experience? What would you say is the perfect size and what is the best way to keep the newest version of pure Android running on it?
Well for starters, make sure the company puts out updates! Many companies will put out an update or two and then abandon the tablet. In the fast moving world of Android, putting out updates that keep up with the current version will keep the device alive and it won't become stale as quick. I know you might have already known that but I just wanted to repeat it. All you need is a good dev that knows the ins and outs of Linux/Android
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Well, I myself prefer updates, open-sourced ROMs, unlocked bootloader and root/flash/all-in-one tools.