Tried to search the answer to my question, but cant find it anywhere.
I need to upgrade my current PDA because of specialised software, I need windows mobile 6.1 - 6.5, and while I am about it wi-fi may be a good idea. Because I am looking at an obsolete product the manufactures are of no help to me.
Been looking at eBay at HP Ipac's as there are so may to choose from.
My question is how do the model numbers relate to the age of the Ipac and its operating system, so I dont end up with something that wont do the job?
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Hi,
I want to clarify some concerns:
First of about the OS, the XDA or QTEK 2020 or i-Mate runs on Windows Mobile OS, is it possible to have any other OS like Linux installed on the PDA without much change in the hardware?
Also I'd like to know on the OS level (particularly for upgrading) what things should I actually take into consideration?
Second of about the software, this is connected to my first concern since I want to confirm that any software created for the particular processor/chipset should work without problems. How about software for system tweaks? (eg. registry hacks, or battery meters)
Lastly, the PDAs available have excellent features and functionality, which suits for most segments of the people. I would like to know can a PDA function for only a specific usage. For e.g. I would not require the emails, browser running, word processor etc, instead would have only my Inventory Control System running which is linked to an server and update the info from the PDA with the server thru’ IrDA, Serial Communication or internet. Can I develop applications that can customize the functionality and functioning of the PDA per my customization?
Also I’d like to know where would I find a generic PDA like HTC’s Himalaya on which I can built my applications and make customization? As I have come across, the PDAs available are branded product like T-mobile or QTEK or i-Mate, where could I find the contact of HTC or any other similar designer and manufacturers? If someone can point me in the right direction (whether it be websites, sections, or other posts) regarding these issues, will be much obliged
from the frontpage of this site
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Xanadux
I'm trying to get my hands on the non-beta core, Windows Embedded CE 6.0 is what I would be looking for correct?
(Just trying to help out )
L
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Hi,
Count me in, would be awsom!
Cheers, Leo
no it's not.
WM is BASED on CE it is NOT CE.
wm5 and 6 are both based on CE 5.0, but getting CE 5.0 will not get you wm5/6
Midget_1990 said:
no it's not.
WM is BASED on CE it is NOT CE.
wm5 and 6 are both based on CE 5.0, but getting CE 5.0 will not get you wm5/6
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So, then what am I looking for exactly? If it's not Windows Embedded CE 6 ... what should I be looking for?
EDIT:
I was just looking up Windows Embedded CE 6, it sure sounds like the base core for WM6? If someone could let me know, I likely can get the non-beta core.
Embedded: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms376742.aspx
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lirathal said:
So, then what am I looking for exactly? If it's not Windows Embedded CE 6 ... what should I be looking for?
EDIT:
I was just looking up Windows Embedded CE 6, it sure sounds like the base core for WM6? If someone could let me know, I likely can get the non-beta core.
Embedded: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms376742.aspx
L
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Windows CE 5.x is the core for Windows Mobile 5 and 6. You should get MS Platform Builder for this. Windows CE 6.x will be for feature versions of Windows Mobile and Thin Clients, etc...
Eelco
Windows mobile 5/6 is BASED on CE 5, hence the 5.1/5.2 kernels.
Windows mobile source IS NOT avaliable on msdn (you don't think we've tried )
The ONLY people with access are OEM's and Developers.
HOWEVER!
As with all restricted data there is allways a leak somewhere
Most devs who might want PB/BSP's can get/have what we need allready, if you want for yourself then you have to look VERY HARD on the rest of the netz
Good luck!
Midget_1990 said:
Windows mobile 5/6 is BASED on CE 5, hence the 5.1/5.2 kernels.
Windows mobile source IS NOT avaliable on msdn (you don't think we've tried )
The ONLY people with access are OEM's and Developers.
HOWEVER!
As with all restricted data there is allways a leak somewhere
Most devs who might want PB/BSP's can get/have what we need allready, if you want for yourself then you have to look VERY HARD on the rest of the netz
Good luck!
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Hmm...
Okay I'm not looking for the non-beta core myself. I wouldn't know what to do with it if I got my hands on it.
Every ROM that has been posted here as been based on the Beta Core for WM6 (to my knowlege). I'm just trying to offer to use my contacts to get the non-beta core if possible to help the community. I do have a contact, but I just have to point them to the right stuff 'we' are looking for.
If anyone wants it, or knows how to identify it, please let me know ... and I'll do my best to provide it if possible .
L
Well I wonder if I totally have the concept of how this actually works wrong. I was reading the MSDN documentation about the Embedded. Now as I understand it Microsoft distributes the Embedded framework to manufacturers and it's they who create the operating system for their hardware. So in essence anything that I get straight from Microsoft will be pretty much useless to Helmi, J and the others that are creating ROMs for us newbies (read: I'm a newbie) .
am I totally out to lunch? Sorry if I am, I was just trying to give back for all that I have leeched!
L
You would nee Windows Mobile Source which is not avaliable on msdn. Also a BSP (board support pack) would be needed from HTC.
Midget_1990 said:
You would nee Windows Mobile Source which is not avaliable on msdn. Also a BSP (board support pack) would be needed from HTC.
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The only reason I mention MSDN is for reference only. I realise it's not on MSDN. So lets stop pretending that I'm making that mistake . I use MSDN all the time for my consulting firms.
What I am trying to get for the developers here is the "Windows Mobile Source" that you mentioned above. The only reason why I am trying to do this is to get a newer (and hopefully non-beta core) to the developers that spend their time working to get us better ROMs.
Now, to put it bluntly, I have someone that I can contact to get access to neat things within Microsoft. Hopefully this is one of them. What I am really looking for is someone to give me the answer to the question: "What am I asking for".
I'd hate to ask for the wrong thing, bug my contact, and have nothing to show for it for the XDA community.
Hope that is a bit more clear
L
Oh i get you now Too many people with msdn subscriptions ahve seen CE 6.0 and come running with chants of "i can get your windoze mobile 6 source!"
The best i can tell you is to ask for the "windows mobile source tree" the right platform builder to go with it and as many BSP's as you can get your hands on (for multi device support)
However I don't think a public forum is the best place to discuss this... see my PM.
God, I love it when stuff goes covert
Where can I download platform builder for windows mobile 5.0?can anyone help me?
You can't.
PB for Windows Mobile (not CE!) is not available to the general public. You need to be an OEM recognized by MS to get one.
You could always try P2P networks, but its 7-9GB download and there is no guarantee some one leaked the real thing.
Does Platform Builder for Windows Mobile 5.0 contain WM2005?
What exactly are talking about?
It seems you have your terminology confused.
WM is short for Windows Mobile. 2005 was the initial name for the 5 version until MS (that stands for Microsoft) did an official release and everyone started calling it WM 5. Some still refer to it as 2005 (as in the year it was released).
Why do you want the Platform Builder any way? You can't make a new ROM with it.
If you jut want some code samples get the PB for CE or if you want to translate the interface (localize your device) just use a ROM dump.
Thank you for replying.
Need AKU and platform builder
Hi,
How are you able to get AKU and platform builder for Windows Mobile 5.0.
Thanks,
Niraj
Buy Platform Builder
I am interested in buying the Platform Builder if you still have. Send me how. Thank you.
5thWheel said:
Hi,
I actually have a legitimate "Windows CE 5.0 with Platform Builder". It has product keys, holograms, everything! I came across this thread when I was googling to see if it was worth my eBaying it!
If anyone is interested, I can put up an eBay auction with a reserve of maybe £50 (it cost me £250, was worth around £500 when I bought it!).
I have "Windows CE.Net [AKA "CE 4.2"] with Platform Builder" as well; again, if there is actually some interest I can eBay it and post a link to the auction. I wasn't going to bother as it didn't look like it was going to be worth the listing fee (no one seems to sell these any more, but 4.2 was easy to buy from various UK retailers at the time, and there were a few 5.0's going on eBay when I got mine).
The CE 5.0 is completely unused (project was cancelled before I even got to start on it!); I installed 4.2 a while ago to make an OS for a device I was working on, but the project was abandoned in the end. I've since canned the PC it was on. Both products are "mine".
Just to clarify in case anyone is confused, Platform Builder is a tool that one uses to make an operating system to run on a device. I would *imagine* you could make an XDA ROM with it, if you had either some support from the device manufacturer, or were very knowledgeable - I made ROMs for a couple of ARM and x86-based "PC cards", and tweaked a ROM for a PDA-like card, but I don't know if XDAs are more complicated. You'd usually want an SDK to accompany the target platform, I think, and ideally an example ROM workspace. Sorry to anyone who already knows this, and hopefully I'm not talking out of my hat WRT XDA development (I only just found out what AKU stands for, I just didn't want anyone expressing an interest who didn't know what they were getting into (Platform Builder is IMO pretty hardcore! But OTOH, pretty good fun! You get lots of the WinCE source and can poke at it if you need to!)
Wrt terminology, I *belive* "Windows Mobile 5" is an implementation of "Windows CE 5", a bit like Ubuntu is a distribution based on Debian? OTOH I wouldn't like to bet, I found all the 4.2, .Net, CE, Mobile, Pocket PC nonsense very confusing, even at the time I'd always assumed that mobile 6.1 was based on CE6.1, but apparently it is based on CE5.2, which I guess means CE6 doesn't exist, so go figure
Windows Mobile 2003 was certainly an "implementation" of CE 4.2, because Wikipedia says so.
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nevermind. there is a free (120-day) evaluation here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downLoads/...50-D311-4F67-9FB3-23E8B8944F3E&displaylang=en
This is enough to build a device driver... right?
Windows CE 5.0 and Platform Builder 5.0
5thWheel said:
Hi,
I'll put it on eBay at the weekend and post the link here: was it 5.0 or 4.2 you were interested in?
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Windows CE 5.0 and Platform Builder 5.0.
windows ce plat form builder 3
well if anyone who has a palm treo 800w and you want to use the verizon 800w update will need platorm builder 3 to use the update im reading in the update what i need to update it i will paste it here if anyone can help i would really like it
well here is what is written
joplin image updater 1 connect usb cable to board 2 open platformbuilder 3 open fashbin workspace 4 attach 5 flip wifi switch to down load image ehen it goes on to describe errors that you could get like bat to low to update well i want to know if anyone can come up with any ideas im going to see if i can get the files mentioned and ill upload then if i can
anyone got a link to or put me in right p2p direction for platform builder 7?
Hello Guys,
im new to this forum and i like to read some threads here from timt 2 time.
And since i got my own pocket pc, i wondered if anybody could help me with a question.
The Windows Mobile Version of mine is a spanish one. And i would lik to have an english version of it. Is it somehow possible to install a language packet or to get another version of WM?
I hope you guys can help me with this. I know this isnt exactly a pocket-pc-forum, but maybe you know something.
Ill tried to search the web, but i got no result
Please help me, any answer would be very kind
Best regards
Just like Windows desktop OS's, you must reinstall the OS to change the language.
It's not an easy process if you are not familiar with your device. Scroll down to the bottom of the page, there is a forum devoted to your device. You should find a lot of information there.
Hey N1c0_ds,
i thought i have to reinstall or flash a new rom/OS.
I can read as much as possible and i dont fear the work
And because im not very familiar with my pda, i think it will be some work to me....
Thanks for your advice... i guess you meant the Other "HTC manufactured phones" forums. Ill have a lokk at these
Hello friends,
Am a newbie here. I bought dis phone (s710) few days back. I liked it very much. Now, as am new in using windows mobile platform, got small small doubts. I thought that all windows mobile can be called as pda's. But why this phone still comes under smartphone. And what is this VOX stands for. Is it S710, or a pseudo name. Sorry guys, am asking soo much, ryt..:x
And i was using a nokia java phone, and it has got cell info display (the network operator tower location, nearest place). Can i get it in on this... Now only the network operators name is there. And this 128MB ROM means the internal memory itslf ryt?
And, i saw about flashing the rom, many threads here. Is there anyway to back up the current one on my phone? Now its windows mobile 6 standard. I saw so many cool edits of wm here wid so many addon plugins etc. I would like to try it. but if something wrong happens in between...(thats y asked about back up of current rom, and restoring it...? is dis pakka rubbish que!! )
Sorry friends, got a lot of doubts regarding...No one, please don get irritated, ok...
Regards all..
Thank you for your kind patience.
1) Vox is in smartphone category because it doesn't have touch screen.
2) HTC give their phones names. Therefore Vox. And its model number is S710.
3) About cell info, backuping, flashing and other, you should search this forums and wiki. You will find plenty answers.
Thank you.... @ torrentonly
also consequentially a modern PDA uses Windows mobile Professional Platform while a smartphone withut touchscreen uses Windows Mobile Standard as Operating System,
TheBo said:
also consequentially a modern PDA uses Windows mobile Professional Platform while a smartphone withut touchscreen uses Windows Mobile Standard as Operating System,
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oh..thanx for the info mate....so, does any wm professional rom is there developed for 710?
no there are not.