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Is there a model number of captivates that have wore GPS?

Im going to try to return my phone since the GPS cant do anything in regards to navigation. It never knows what street im on even when its locked.
Is there a certain model I should be requesting that performs better?

All of them are broken. It's a hardware problem.

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All of them are broken. It's a hardware problem.
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not true. my phone is build no. 1012 rev 0.4 and everything works as expected, including GPS.

Mine has never ever, locked once!!!

Mine is 1007 stock and I've always been able to use the GPS. So imho it's pretty much luck of the draw.

I don't even care anymore. I've given up on Samdung to be honest.. terrible support and no communication for their 10 million galaxy s devices.
For what its worth, I have a 1006 build and gps is marginal at best when tracking - regardless of which ROM and gps cocktail files I throw at it.
Supposedly the newer builds have better tracking, but there isn't any PROOF.
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Samdung... Clever. I prefer Samsuck myself.

I have a model 1009 running Serendipity 2.0, and my GPS gets a very quick lock and maintains lock when I'm driving in the car for the most part.

I had 2 1008's that both had great gps with Darkys rom and very spotty if any lock with other roms. I now have a refurbished 1007 running Darkys that locks fast and tracks great too.

I have a 1007, that I got to replace my old 1007 and the new phone's gps works perfectly with any rom I've used. Guess I got lucky.
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I have to agree that GPS on my Captivate isn't great since day 1 either.
Recently I've been using Designgears Perception build 10.0, GPS has nothing but spectacular. Did a few long-drive road test and didn't lose signal even once and testing it with short trips for about a week now. Signal lock is within a minute. That is with both Google Maps/Navigation and CoPilot Live. A round trip from St. Robert to St. Louis, MO then from St. Robert, MO to Fort Smith, AR and back and GPS has been Spot on. This is with Perception Build 10.0 - Before I made the trip back from Fort Smith, I decided to update to Perception build 10.1 and GPS just gave out on me... did not work at all... get all kind of GPS signal but can not be locked into 3D to get an accurate position. Great thing I still have Build 10.0 on the phone decided to flash back from Build 10.1 to 10.0 and GPS is miraculously work the way it meant to be. This is the first time GPS on my Captivate has been working so well for me ever since day 1. I almost made a jump to Windows Phone 7 because of it. Now, I don't have to anymore, all thanks to Designgear.

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Samdung... Clever. I prefer Samsuck myself.
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Haha, I like samjunk.
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I'm curious...
If you look at all the messages and statements here that the GPS on the Galaxy phones don't work, one would think (at least anecdotally) that a large percentage of the phones' GPS's don't work. Does anybody have any numbers showing the percentage of the phones with the problem? I mean, with multi millions of phones sold, one would think that you would hear more of it outside the tech stream media. Maybe it has been, and I just didn't notice. Does anybody have any link to the number/percentage of phones affected?
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mwilhelm said:
I'm curious...
If you look at all the messages and statements here that the GPS on the Galaxy phones don't work, one would think (at least anecdotally) that a large percentage of the phones' GPS's don't work. Does anybody have any numbers showing the percentage of the phones with the problem? I mean, with multi millions of phones sold, one would think that you would hear more of it outside the tech stream media. Maybe it has been, and I just didn't notice. Does anybody have any link to the number/percentage of phones affected?
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Nah, that data doesn't exist. You could start a poll thread. It'd be skewed towards XDA users (which might comprise in part those that find their phone inadequate) but that'd give some idea.
My phone varies from poor gps tracking to completely unfunctional depending on the ROM. Incidentally, all 2.2 i9000 were 100% broken for me, but 2.2.1 i9000 brought it up to "crappy". YMMV
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mwilhelm said:
I'm curious...
If you look at all the messages and statements here that the GPS on the Galaxy phones don't work, one would think (at least anecdotally) that a large percentage of the phones' GPS's don't work. Does anybody have any numbers showing the percentage of the phones with the problem? I mean, with multi millions of phones sold, one would think that you would hear more of it outside the tech stream media. Maybe it has been, and I just didn't notice. Does anybody have any link to the number/percentage of phones affected?
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The two people I know with SGS phones that said their GPS worked learned otherwise when I asked them to show me.
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DrCruelty said:
The two people I know with SGS phones that said their GPS worked learned otherwise when I asked them to show me.
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It's like the iPhone antenna. They're all broken, but many people don't notice or understand the problem.
So the company spits in your face and goes to the bank.
Some people think this is acceptable, I don't. That's why I shall never but another Samsung phone again.
I've been holding a grudge against RadioShack since fifth grade, when they tried to screw me over. Now Samsung can add to the list.
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derek4484 said:
Haha, I like samjunk.
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If people keep refusing to buy their phones anymore because of the Captivate, they'll soon be Samsunk!

bacuy82 said:
I have to agree that GPS on my Captivate isn't great since day 1 either.
Recently I've been using Designgears Perception build 10.0, GPS has nothing but spectacular. Did a few long-drive road test and didn't lose signal even once and testing it with short trips for about a week now. Signal lock is within a minute. That is with both Google Maps/Navigation and CoPilot Live. A round trip from St. Robert to St. Louis, MO then from St. Robert, MO to Fort Smith, AR and back and GPS has been Spot on. This is with Perception Build 10.0 - Before I made the trip back from Fort Smith, I decided to update to Perception build 10.1 and GPS just gave out on me... did not work at all... get all kind of GPS signal but can not be locked into 3D to get an accurate position. Great thing I still have Build 10.0 on the phone decided to flash back from Build 10.1 to 10.0 and GPS is miraculously work the way it meant to be. This is the first time GPS on my Captivate has been working so well for me ever since day 1. I almost made a jump to Windows Phone 7 because of it. Now, I don't have to anymore, all thanks to Designgear.
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Ive tried every ROM and none of them work with my GPS. It will track me for periods of 30 seconds, then the circle around my arrow gets huge and rarely locks again.

MikeyMike01 said:
It's like the iPhone antenna. They're all broken, but many people don't notice or understand the problem.
So the company spits in your face and goes to the bank.
Some people think this is acceptable, I don't. That's why I shall never but another Samsung phone again.
I've been holding a grudge against RadioShack since fifth grade, when they tried to screw me over. Now Samsung can add to the list.
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Minus the fact that the iPhone antenna actually works... That thing never loses my position... NEVER. A simple case on the phone remedies the issue... with the captivate, there is nothing you can do but keep returning the phone.

My GPS is perfect. I have 10 locks in within 30 seconds. This is my second captivate due to me dropping the first one and the screen breaking. When I used the GPS on that device I got a Max of 3 satellites with 1 lock. I think it its that they have slightly updated the device as time has passed on.
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Should I?

Alright guys, I just saw pictures of the new Droid Bionic and I gotta say.....WOW. I am really blown away and I think I really want this, plus, moto said there going to unlock bootloaders (not quite sure why everyone forgot this http://pocketnow.com/android/motorola-promises-android-bootloader-unlock-in-late-2011). What do you guys thing? This phone is one hell of a beast but I also am in love with sense but blurs been winning me over. Thoughts?!?!?

2 fascinates and 2 droid x's later i can say if it aint stock android or htc sense i dont want it.
If it has unlocked bootloader so u can run cm7 then thats a different story but dont hold ur breath.

It's all personal preference. If you want to shell out the money for a bionic go ahead. I am quite happy with my thunderbolt. I really don't see how my experience can be improved much. But then again personal experiences vary.
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My expierence with the TB has been great but im definitly worried about our longevity because every time i think about it, the TB just seems like a test bed device for 4G. Ill be honest, the only thing holding me back is HTC Sense because I love the heck out of HTC Sense but I really need that next gen power.

I say give the Bionic a look. The hardware looks great and the new Blur is actually really good.
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I don't believe it until I see it (or confirmed by outside users)
referring to the unlocked bootloader claim.

what25 said:
I don't believe it until I see it (or confirmed by outside users)
referring to the unlocked bootloader claim.
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Thats moto official right there, of course there going to do it (Okay I do realize i sound pretty nieve right there), but still Verizon confermed that they have no problems with letting unlocked bootloaders on their networks so I dont see why it wouldnt happen

I don't think I would believe the "no-locked-bootload" bit until I see it.

No Brainer
HTC Thunderbolt
1) When we need to have conference call we use anyone else's phone because the external speaker on the TB sounds like crap.
2) The ear speaker is so high pitched and scratchy sounding it actually hurts!
3) Mine has a bad head phone amp. (can't add base).
4) battery lasts 4 hours.
5) Takes forever to find satellites.
6) Random reboots.
7) Who needs sense when 3rd party launchers and widgets are better and more configurable.
I could keep going but you're probably bored already. The only thing good about the HTC is it's looks. I'd go for the Moto or wait for a dual core Samsung.

@mcargil05
It sounds like you've had nothing but problems. I am surprised you haven't traded the TB for something else. My speakerphone & ear speaker are no better or worse than any other phone I've used. When I stream music over audiogalaxy thru my car aux port, it sounds as good as my ipod. If your phone amp is bad, that should be covered by warranty & you should be able to swap phones. If you're only getting 4 hours between charges, that's definitely a hardware issue or bad battery, or both. I got 7+ hrs on stock before flashing a battery-sipping kernel (16-20 hrs now). GPS lock in 3-7 secs depending on whether I'm indoors. I had a couple of random reboots right after flashing GB-based rom, but nothing since. It's true that Sense is kinda "take it or leave it", not a lot of customizing options there. But I think it's pretty good for a stock app & it does what I need it to do. I used Launcher Pro on my Captivate & Nexus One, and I don't miss it enough to ditch Sense. Some ppl absolutely despise Sense, so there will always be demand for alternative launchers & widgets. Good luck with your TB, if you decide to keep it.
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I would trade my Bolt for a Bionic IF the bootloader is unlocked. And I wouldn't be an early adopter on the Bionic. I would only buy it after CM7 is stable on the phone. And by that time... Kal El Tegra 3 phones will be out nearly (they're due by X-Mas, and the Bionic isn't due out until August).
I would say, if you have a Thunderbolt, it's probably best to wait until Xmas/CES time the end of this year/early next year. There are going to be some crazy phones out in 6-9 months from now.
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I am good with the Thunderbolt until early next year when we have a new crop of phones. I wanted to the Moto, but was on blackberry and didn't want to wait until the moto dropped when we kept getting pushed back to get 4g and Android goodness.
The battery could be better but I have 3 spare batteries and an external charger for them so it is all good.

Personally the screen is the killer for me. The crappy light leakage, terrible in bright lighting, and don't get me started on the spot lights. Terrible blacks. I bought a $4300 65" plasma to get an amazing picture, why would I not want that kind of picture on my phone if possible.

I dont see how comparing a $4300 dollar TV and a phone makes any sense.

ThePravus said:
I dont see how comparing a $4300 dollar TV and a phone makes any sense.
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It doesn't. He just wanted to brag about wasting money.

4300 for a PLASMA hahahahhahaha. Ripped off much?
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People still buy plasma tv?

It's one of the new 3D plasmas with built-in ps3 AND xbox, and it also makes bacon. Because everything is better with bacon.
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Love my TBolt. Everything has been great with it so far. All the whining you are hearing are from people who haven't tinkered with their phone. Things like low battery life can be solved in a matter of minutes and a google search. I am now going on 10 hours with 65% battery left, which is better than my old X.
Plus I got it on a 2 year plan so 1. I will hopefully be grandfathered into 4G and 2. Will have plenty of time to see how new phones are going to develop before jumping right into them (Kind of like what I did with my TB).
I see nothing but good for the TB for at least another year. Soon the RIL will be released alongside of Gingerbread with 4G speeds. Come on you can't go wrong.

sublimaze said:
it's one of the new 3d plasmas with built-in ps3 and xbox, and it also makes bacon. Because everything is better with bacon.
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lol thanks

[Q] did anyone get tmobile to let them swap g2x for sensation?

if so, what did you say. i just got off the phone with corporate and all she could do was waive the 20 dollar exchange fee and tmobile is now sending me my 4th g2x.
when this new g2x is buggy like i'm sure it will be, what should i say so that customer care will send me a sensation instead. After going on a 14 day roadtrip where my g2x's gps refused to work i can't stand having to deal with this phone anymore.
thanks in advance

I did, and I got to keep my G2X. Story is to long but you can find my thread by looking through my previous posts.
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http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mobile-G2x/Email-to-Phillip-Humm/m-p/909705#M7847
Might be worth a read.

The grass isn't always greener on the other side. Trust me. Going through three sensations I realized the g2x issues aren't that bad especially on cm7... Read my previous posts also as JW. Mines a completely different experience ...

If you have returned it 3 times within 90 days on the warranty you can just ask them to exchange it for you. I think they call it their "multiple warranty exchange program" or something like that.

Unlike Smashpunks, the grass was greener enough to make the Sensation my daily driver. My G2X didn't have any problems by the way. I just like the bigger display, crisper looking text, better camera and the phone feels better in my hand.
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I just traded my iPad2 for a Asus Transformer in the MarketPlace.... lol there are TONS of people getting rid of the Sensation. Like every other thread.
Funny.

jrwingate6 said:
Unlike Smashpunks, the grass was greener enough to make the Sensation my daily driver. My G2X didn't have any problems by the way. I just like the bigger display, crisper looking text, better camera and the phone feels better in my hand.
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Again OP. This gentleman has proven his sensation to be worthy and have non of the wifi issues I had. So moral of the story is. The grass isn't always greener on the other side, always, but you may find that green patch like JW did.. lol
I love my g2x. I would have loved the sensation also without the wifi and screen issue after a week. So if the both were flawless which would I pick? Honestly if I had no issues on either. I think I'd still go g2x. Something about the tegra chip that foking rocks. Also that extra dead space at the bottom of the g2x by the capacitive buttons that everyone hates, well, I love it.... this phone looks sweet. Sensation was a great phone. Just 3 bad in a row gave be bad joojoo.
Oh jw is right. The camera on the sensation destroys the g2x, not only in quality but features. Like the video camera can refocus while touching the screen, genius ..

player911 said:
I just traded my iPad2 for a Asus Transformer in the MarketPlace.... lol there are TONS of people getting rid of the Sensation. Like every other thread.
Funny.
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Ya there are a lot for sale. Lol good phone but just feel like something was wrong.f

slowpig38 said:
After going on a 14 day roadtrip where my g2x's gps refused to work i can't stand having to deal with this phone anymore.
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A: Last I talked to customer care they did say something along the lines of "well, what phone would you want instead?" when I said, "I have little confidence that another G2x will be any better." But I never followed up on that and just got another G2x on the way. It's my first replacement, and now my phone is working fine again after the backlight got stuck on dim and then refused to boot.) So I may keep the original since the bleed is minimal and I've never gotten an auto reboot. I have had to manually reboot a lot to cure failing wifi and other such issues.
B: The annoying, but effective GPS cure for me was to get "GPS Test" from the market, it's free. After I turn on the GPS I open GPS Test and I watch as it gets a lock in seconds. If I go right to Google Maps or Navigon after turning on the GPS it sometime takes a long time or never locks. Stupid extra step to get around some lame bug someone should be fired for letting ship with the phone, but it's working for me. WMMV. Good luck.

They replaced mine with a Sensation. I refused to leave the store without a fully working product or my money. I literally pulled a chair up to the manager an asked him to fix it or give me something that works.
I certainly liked the G2x a great deal but the Sensation is really reliable and the battery life is fantastic. I really mean that. I would happily use a G2x again...but not until I can rely on it.
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G2X completely off of TM's website? It all makes sense now...

Well it's obvious...despite the "normal" issues that any phones may experience (G2X blown out of proportion IMO with just a bunch of whiners),...that all led most to believe that it was temporary out of stock on TM's website due to the issues.....
It's very apparent it was taken off due to the Sensations release....had the G2X still have been on TM's site, it would have killed the sales of the Sensation.
Now with the new MyTouch4G Slide, obviously it would be wise, marketing wise, to take the G2X off completely to save the sales OR assist the sales (either way you look at it) of the Sensation and MT4G Slide...
Either way...I still own a G2X and will be getting the MT4G Slide for giggles just to have....returned to Sensation today...was a piece of crap....
G2X has realistically been the fastest phone I've ever owned...heck my SGS4G was faster than the Sensation...
Not to bash the Sensation, but soon it'll be just a dust in the wind as all the new devices come out soon....hint hint....Samsung Galaxy S 2 for TM? ANyone?

Uhh, no?
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=T-Mobile-G2x-with-Google

I was about to throw mine out the ****ing car window today. ****ing GPS was needed, and of course, when you need it most, it fails.
PhantomRampage said:
Uhh, no?
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=T-Mobile-G2x-with-Google
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LOL!

iunlock said:
Not to bash the Sensation, but soon it'll be just a dust in the wind as all the new devices come out soon....hint hint....Samsung Galaxy S 2 for TM? ANyone?
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Every phone you ever buy from here on out will be dust in the wind. Accept it.

Is this post your opinion or do you have some super secret information from a T-mobile executive? I have both of the phones mentioned and I can assure you, the Sensation is no slouch once you stop Sense from running and use LP or ADW. It then becomes instant just like my G2X. Even running the phone stock with Sense, my Sensation always loaded apps faster (especially Google Maps) than my G2X. It also has a smoother browser than my G2X and plays the only game I play (Homerun Battle 3D) at a higher framerate.
By the way, I can do a side by side video if you think I'm lying. I never say anything I can't back up.
Lastly, the G2X would have never outseld the Sensation or MyTouch 4g Slide. Not because its inferior but because the mainstream buyer is going to want all the stupid eye candy on Sense. Also, the mainstream T-mobile customers will choose HTC over LG any day of the week. Its what they know.
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bighulk666 said:
I was about to throw mine out the ****ing car window today. ****ing GPS was needed, and of course, when you need it most, it fails.
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Lmao, I was in a very similar situation a few days ago. It took all my strength to stop myself from tossing it out onto the interstate. I'm trying to make it until the Nexus 3 is released but it's very likely that ill smash this phone to bits long before it arrives.
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jrwingate6 said:
Is this post your opinion or do you have some super secret information from a T-mobile executive? I have both of the phones mentioned and I can assure you, the Sensation is no slouch once you stop Sense from running and use LP or ADW. It then becomes instant just like my G2X. Even running the phone stock with Sense, my Sensation always loaded apps faster (especially Google Maps) than my G2X. It also has a smoother browser than my G2X and plays the only game I play (Homerun Battle 3D) at a higher framerate.
By the way, I can do a side by side video if you think I'm lying. I never say anything I can't back up.
Lastly, the G2X would have never outseld the Sensation or MyTouch 4g Slide. Not because its inferior but because the mainstream buyer is going to want all the stupid eye candy on Sense. Also, the mainstream T-mobile customers will choose HTC over LG any day of the week. Its what they know.
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Very well put

I can still find the g2x over here still said temporarily out of stock
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using G2x to show a boarding pass
Definitely had many reasons to throw this phone out of the window but my worst experience was while standing in a airport security line and naively thinking that I would show my boarding pass to the security agent on my G2x. Of course just as I step up to the agent, the phone freezes and then resets leaving me to stand in the line for another 5 minutes while I pulled out the battery and reset the device. The entire time the agent is looking at me and telling me that I need to get back to the end of the line if the phone is not up in next 2 minutes
I hate this phone with a passion...

red04star said:
Definitely had many reasons to throw this phone out of the window but my worst experience was while standing in a airport security line and naively thinking that I would show my boarding pass to the security agent on my G2x. Of course just as I step up to the agent, the phone freezes and then resets leaving me to stand in the line for another 5 minutes while I pulled out the battery and reset the device. The entire time the agent is looking at me and telling me that I need to get back to the end of the line if the phone is not up in next 2 minutes
I hate this phone with a passion...
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I just chuckled at your misfortune, sorry to hear that.

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Are you on the HTC payroll?
I get it. It is a nice phone if you happen to be lucky and get a good one. Very similar to the G2x situation.
Which screen does your have? I am still interested in the Sensation. I miss the larger screen on my HD2. I just could not pull the trigger based on the poor quality of the demo in my local store. I would love to see a comparison video and pics between the two phones.

PikkonX said:
Lmao, I was in a very similar situation a few days ago. It took all my strength to stop myself from tossing it out onto the interstate. I'm trying to make it until the Nexus 3 is released but it's very likely that ill smash this phone to bits long before it arrives.
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Same boat here. but my problem is with signal at home. the only way to make a proper phone call is using with wifi calling. I miss the Nexus line so much

jcbofkc said:
Are you on the HTC payroll?
I get it. It is a nice phone if you happen to be lucky and get a good one. Very similar to the G2x situation.
Which screen does your have? I am still interested in the Sensation. I miss the larger screen on my HD2. I just could not pull the trigger based on the poor quality of the demo in my local store. I would love to see a comparison video and pics between the two phones.
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Nope, not on anyone's payroll. In fact, if you take a look at my posts from the past two days in the Sensation forums, I was pissing everyone off stating that I think the GSII is the better device. I am fortunate enough to buy any phone I want, whenever I want so I am NEVER biased towards one particular device. Some people will defend the device there stuck with to no end and while I understand it, I hate it. I just say what I think the better device is along with giving my reasons. In my humble opinion, someone who is not tied to a device for a year or two usually ends up being less biased than the person who is and is trying there damndest to justify there purchase. There is no doubt about it, Sense blows and HTC did a horrible job with optimizing it. Once you load ADW on it, the UI feels like a dual core device. Everything else like the browser, market, apps and maps already felt like a dual core device. For instance, the app pictures load faster on the Sensation than they do on the G2X when scrolling through the market. You also don't get that stutter when doing so. Contact pictures also appear instantely unlike the G2X where it takes them a couple seconds to load as your scrolling through the list. Google maps also load instantely when s rolling through a map where as the streets appear blurry before loading on the G2X. It really is a nice phone once you pull Sense off of it but my absolute biggest reason behing choosing it to be my daily driver er is the display. Text is so much clearer and I find my self scrolling a lot less through websites due to the resolution and size. I do think the contrast is better on the G2X but clearer text is more important than darker blacks. I care about darker blacks on my 4 LED TV's in my house, not my 4inch phone.
Let me know what you want to see in the video and ill add it in for you.
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jrwingate6 said:
Nope, not on anyone's payroll. In fact, if you take a look at my posts from the past two days in the Sensation forums, I was pissing everyone off stating that I think the GSII is the better device. I am fortunate enough to buy any phone I want, whenever I want so I am NEVER biased towards one particular device. Some people will defend the device there stuck with to no end and while I understand it, I hate it. I just say what I think the better device is along with giving my reasons. In my humble opinion, someone who is not tied to a device for a year or two usually ends up being less biased than the person who is and is trying there damndest to justify there purchase. There is no doubt about it, Sense blows and HTC did a horrible job with optimizing it. Once you load ADW on it, the UI feels like a dual core device. Everything else like the browser, market, apps and maps already felt like a dual core device. For instance, the app pictures load faster on the Sensation than they do on the G2X when scrolling through the market. You also don't get that stutter when doing so. Contact pictures also appear instantely unlike the G2X where it takes them a couple seconds to load as your scrolling through the list. Google maps also load instantely when s rolling through a map where as the streets appear blurry before loading on the G2X. It really is a nice phone once you pull Sense off of it but my absolute biggest reason behing choosing it to be my daily driver er is the display. Text is so much clearer and I find my self scrolling a lot less through websites due to the resolution and size. I do think the contrast is better on the G2X but clearer text is more important than darker blacks. I care about darker blacks on my 4 LED TV's in my house, not my 4inch phone.
Let me know what you want to see in the video and ill add it in for you.
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Amen Brother....
I too am not locked to a single phone or carrier. So being biased is not in the equation. I too have both the Sensation and the G2x. My 'unbiased' opinion leans towards the G2x. I think loading a new launcher on the Sensation is equiv to rooting and flashing CM7 on the G2x. If I have to make a radical change in my device to like the device, time to move on. I have to like the device before I'll even consider making changes to it. yeah i know, strange.

I'm not in a contract but my opinion about how I buy phones isn't "what kind of phone it IS" but "What kind of phone it can BECOME".
I like getting a phone and flashing custom roms to gain extra special abilities and functions.
Coming from the Nexus One running CM7, the G2x with CM7 feels right at home.
GPS has been worked on tremendously and is finally reliable. The phone never locks up and simply just works as it should. I trust CM7 to build quality roms for a phone over any manufacture.
Stock roms, to me, are something to "just use" until something better comes along. Everything always works better hacked. The people that fight that urge simply blows my mind. Peace of mind is out there if you want it.
And as far as the higher resolution of the Sensation, I just run the G2x at 190 density to gain the same screen real-estate. Supposedly the G2x/O2x were designed to function properly at higher resolutions (*rumor).

alodar1 said:
Amen Brother....
I too am not locked to a single phone or carrier. So being biased is not in the equation. I too have both the Sensation and the G2x. My 'unbiased' opinion leans towards the G2x. I think loading a new launcher on the Sensation is equiv to rooting and flashing CM7 on the G2x. If I have to make a radical change in my device to like the device, time to move on. I have to like the device before I'll even consider making changes to it. yeah i know, strange.
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Eh, its not strange, its just what you do. Myself on the other hand, ADW goes on every phone I purchase almost immediately due to the amount of customization and smoothness. Sense has to much eye candy and vanilla is just too, well vanilla. To each their own...
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I buy wuteva ever phone I want when ever I want it. I tossed the thunderbolt out the window for the g2x and that was the best thing I ever did cause that was sum HTC junk don't even get me started on that and my girl wanted the sensation cause of sense and all its prettyness so i got it for her(mistake) and every phone I get my hands on I root flash mod than flash sum more and I can say that the g2x (that I own) bloooooows away the sensation..I'm just gonna say one reason of the many, when were both chilling on the couch watching TV and I'm flying threw the web and wuteva else on wifi she's curseing up a storm cause her sensation doesn't connect to wifi unless shes 10feet from it and its her 3rd one lol and there's just so much more take my word please.... the sensation is pretty ill admit but the g2x is a F*CKIN BEAST!!!!!

player911 said:
I'm not in a contract but my opinion about how I buy phones isn't "what kind of phone it IS" but "What kind of phone it can BECOME".
I like getting a phone and flashing custom roms to gain extra special abilities and functions.
Coming from the Nexus One running CM7, the G2x with CM7 feels right at home.
GPS has been worked on tremendously and is finally reliable. The phone never locks up and simply just works as it should. I trust CM7 to build quality roms for a phone over any manufacture.
Stock roms, to me, are something to "just use" until something better comes along. Everything always works better hacked. The people that fight that urge simply blows my mind. Peace of mind is out there if you want it.
And as far as the higher resolution of the Sensation, I just run the G2x at 190 density to gain the same screen real-estate. Supposedly the G2x/O2x were designed to function properly at higher resolutions (*rumor).
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Well the potential for the Sensation once it becomes unlocked is going to be pretty good. You know it will get CM and the Adreno 220 is capable of more power than most other GPU's. It just has some ****ty drivers right now and games aren't yet optimized for it. I also have my G2X density at 190 but it still doesn't make the text as clear as on my Sensation. I've said it before but after looking at my Sensations display for a couple of days, my G2X display looks blurry.
Oh....you asked earlier. I have the Sharp display and just like the G2X, I had to return 3 of them to get a nice display.
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llllllllllll said:
I buy wuteva ever phone I want when ever I want it. I tossed the thunderbolt out the window for the g2x and that was the best thing I ever did cause that was sum HTC junk don't even get me started on that and my girl wanted the sensation cause of sense and all its prettyness so i got it for her(mistake) and every phone I get my hands on I root flash mod than flash sum more and I can say that the g2x (that I own) bloooooows away the sensation..I'm just gonna say one reason of the many, when were both chilling on the couch watching TV and I'm flying threw the web and wuteva else on wifi she's curseing up a storm cause her sensation doesn't connect to wifi unless shes 10feet from it and its her 3rd one lol and there's just so much more take my word please.... the sensation is pretty ill admit but the g2x is a F*CKIN BEAST!!!!!
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Well I can tell you my Sensation remains at full bars of WiFi all throught my house and outside of my house. Look back through my posts and you will see a video I made, showing the power of the Sensations WiFi. I also hold it in landscape, showing there is no death grip issue with mine. Yes I was 2 floors away from my router when shooting this video and it was proved in the video. Every manufacture makes buggy devices. You can't expect to get a perfect device anymore in today's market. My past 5 phones had to be returned multiple times a piece just to get a device with none or minimal bugs.
On the other side of the table. My wife had the G2X as well. She then saw my Sensation and wanted it so I sold her G2X and bought her a Sensation. She couldn't be happier and hasn't reported any problems to me. Trust me, she knows what bugs are and she will tell me about them.
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Uhhh for the longest time it was indeed OFF OF TM's site. I just checked yesterday and it wasn't on there at all. Now it's back on, therefore, it's ironic that I happen to be at TM Corporate store yesterday talking with a guy from Corporate that happened to be there and he did specifically mentioned that, (paraphrasing) "regarding the G2X, there are many reason for why it was pulled off before the launch of the sensation. It wasn't due to any hardware related issues, more software actually. The G2X was actually the fastest selling phone nationwide, which supply and demand may have been a contributing factor for it being pulled for a while. He did mention the improvements on the screen for the newer batches of the G2X, which is another reason adding to the why's...."
It was a good 10min convo...all paraphrasing of course, but at any rate, it doesn't take too much brain power to realize the reasoning(s) and in the G2X's case, IMO it's all pretty practical rather than theory.
PhantomRampage said:
Uhh, no?
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=T-Mobile-G2x-with-Google
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SkyRocket GPS

I'm interested to hear from those who have tried or bought the Skyrocket on how the GPS performs compared to the OG GS2 GPS? I'm on the fence like others and would like to know if the Skyrocket GPS is better/worse/same as the OG GS2. For me, I have 6 days left on my OG GS2 30 day return period. I'm very pleased so far with the GPS performance (superior to my previous Infuse and Captivate phones); however, I miss the 4.5" screen. I can get the $149 price on the Skyrocket, but honestly, I do 99% of my data transfer via WiFi, so LTE not criticial today. If the GPS on the skyrocket compares to OG GS2, I may pull the swap.. if not, probably keep the OG. Thanks!

Why would you not want the option of LTE? Go get it right now!

My Skyrocket's GPS is on point and I'm in NYC where it's not easy to have a clear view to the sky. You can hardly see the sky lol. Locks within seconds.

I had the OG-SGS2 for 28days. I now have the SGS2LTE for 2 days. From what I can tell thus far. GPS seems to be about the same for acquiring a signal. Avg about 10-15sec. The longest I have had to wait on the LTE version is about the same.

I have used both and I will tell you it is much better. It locks on faster, with more accuracy and in places it never would lock on before.

I believe it will only keep getting beter....now that I have one...Had to go to Best Buy and do the price match thing..
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Need to order my otterbox case though.

GPS on the skyrocket is awesome...locks fast and I get an accuracy of 3m..much faster and more accurate then my att sensation...I was a diehard HTC fan but as for me Sammy is pulling away...not to bad for my first Sammy...
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Skyrocket GPS.. is amazing. Even better than the SII IMO

I have seen a significant difference while acquiring signal

It's really solid for me. Quick fix, accurate

Can someone explain this?
Here are screencaps from GPS Status + Toolkit and GPS Test... Can you see the "anomaly?"
This phone appears to "see" about twice as many satellites as any other mobile phone I have tested, way beyond the usual 12 or so. Only appears to "use" 12 or less, though.
EIDT: I pulled the trigger on the second screencap too soon after switching to the GPS Test app, therefore only 5 satellites in use. The 2 apps showed about the same number in view and in use with 3 meter accuracy outside with a clear sky view. This GPS is mighty good.

I've been amazed by the GPS on this thing in contrast to the original galaxy s. Just instant lock times and an accurate compass.

Where is it $149?
Has anyone NOT living in an LTE area managed to get it for $149 either in person or online? What is a ZIP code I can put in that will show up as a $149 area? I want to see if I can put that in, then proceed with checkout and see if it will let me do it.
If not I may just take a screenshot and see if Best Buy will price match based on what it shows on there.

chmcke01 said:
Has anyone NOT living in an LTE area managed to get it for $149 either in person or online? What is a ZIP code I can put in that will show up as a $149 area? I want to see if I can put that in, then proceed with checkout and see if it will let me do it.
If not I may just take a screenshot and see if Best Buy will price match based on what it shows on there.
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You'd be answered better in the q and a section
I get 3 meter lock in around 4 seconds
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Sorry, my mistake
-Kevlar- said:
You'd be answered better in the q and a section
I get 3 meter lock in around 4 seconds
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Yeah it was a mistake. GPS was one of the things I was worried about with the Skyrocket. The main things holding me back are the supposedly inferior processor and GPU, some people say the low resolution on such a big screen looks bad, and the GPS.
After reading that it is evidently quite good, I got ahead of myself and asked about where I could get it for $149. I asked it in the Q&A instead.

chmcke01 said:
Yeah it was a mistake. GPS was one of the things I was worried about with the Skyrocket. The main things holding me back are the supposedly inferior processor and GPU, some people say the low resolution on such a big screen looks bad, and the GPS.
After reading that it is evidently quite good, I got ahead of myself and asked about where I could get it for $149. I asked it in the Q&A instead.
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no biggie, just wanted you to get an answer and not get lost in the thread.... resolution is better than infuse to me.

Right at 2000 miles into our road trip now....not one single issue other than a small glicth in the mountains for about 10 mins.
Very impressed so far
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GPS is performing rock solid.
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I'm one of the people that went from the SGSII to the Skyrocket.
Comparing the two phones I would have to say that GPS is far better on the Skyrocket.
Sitting on my couch in my family room I would get about 5 sat locks with the SGSII. The Skyrocket consistently gets about 11 sat locks in the exact same location.

Here's mine from work
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