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I have been hearing many things about "4G" launching march 1st. Then once that passed I've been hearing middle-end of March. Has anyone actually been getting speeds of about 6mbps average, not just a peak times. Also if you have go to setting about phone and then network and look at network type and see if it says hsdpa+. The most I ever got standing next to a tower was 5.10 Down and .42 up on stalk, not rooted. I'm starting to think that this AT&T 4G is BS and is just crap advertising like T-Mobile "4G"
I live in Dallas and we are suppose to be in a "4G" area and my speeds haven't changed. On a good day, 4mb down and 1.5 up.
I'm also supposed to be in a 4G area according to their coverage map but I don't see any improvements. Does the 4G map show 4G with backhaul or is it just where the towers are upgraded but backhaul still needs work. Since in all their compercails it says 4G available in limited areas when combines with backhaul
There are only a few 4g areas up, they are:
Cali "bay area", Greater LA, Greater Dallas TX, Buffalo NY, Boston MA, Providence RI, Baltimore MD, Charlotte NC, and Chicago IL.
The 4g areas can be found here: http://www.att.com/network/#fbid=ZfECQbHFsTm
Here's the coverage map with where I live as well as the 4G with back haul crap website (see attachment)
Shoot just noticed you can't really read the works on the website but it says that future mobile broadband to be available by march 31st. I live right where the arrow is pointing to.
Also click on 4g FAQ and look at the questions about the H+ Icon
Im in the bayarea not not seeing any top speeds non rooted. I live in Dublin Ca and the speed i just got was 1705 up 325 down which is about how its been for 3 weeks. When i go into settings the network reads HSPDA but no plus. ATT coverage map in the bottom corner says this is for 3 g not 4g.
Anyone know if there is more to the backhaul in the sfbay area or is this it? Nowahere near the speeds advertised.
Also anyword on ATT releasing ghe cap on the upload?
Actually the map does show 4G coverage if you scroll over. At the top it says that. And from what I've read AT&T only mentioned enabling it on the Atrix they never said anything about the Inspire. But I would think that if they enable it on the Atrix they will on the Inspire, but the question is when. It took them 5 months to release froyo for the captavate and aria after the carrier released it so I wouldn't hold my breath.
I live smack dab in the middle of downtown San Francisco, 5 bars of good ol fashioned HSDPA... NOT 4G... not sure what the deal is with SF, and how they can advertise it as being launched already, but clearly it's NOT.
bella92108 said:
I live smack dab in the middle of downtown San Francisco, 5 bars of good ol fashioned HSDPA... NOT 4G... not sure what the deal is with SF, and how they can advertise it as being launched already, but clearly it's NOT.
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Thats what I'm saying. The phones are called 4G, I see their 4G commercials, but no one sees 4G on their phones. People are asking them whats the deal and they don't respond to anything. I called them yesterday to ask why I'm not getting any 4G speeds and they blamed it on my phone. I told the rep that I went to the AT&T store and tested the phones their and they got slow speeds as well. She said that 4G will launch in the summer. Do they train these reps at all?
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Thats what I'm saying. The phones are called 4G, I see their 4G commercials, but no one sees 4G on their phones. People are asking them whats the deal and they don't respond to anything. I called them yesterday to ask why I'm not getting any 4G speeds and they blamed it on my phone. I told the rep that I went to the AT&T store and tested the phones their and they got slow speeds as well. She said that 4G will launch in the summer. Do they train these reps at all?
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I think they train em about as well as they trained the techs to build out the 3G network in 2008 and 2009... great they made 3G iPhones without having a 3G network, lol.
kgeissler said:
I live in Dallas and we are suppose to be in a "4G" area and my speeds haven't changed. On a good day, 4mb down and 1.5 up.
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Same situation here in Baltimore.
Not once have I ever seen HSPA+ show up in the About Phone/Network menu or the speeds to indicate otherwise.
I call BS on AT&T's whole operation.
They should at least tell people that they won't see 4G speeds until ___________ not show a fake 4G coverage map and call the phones 4G. I am covered by their "4G" and get slower than 3G speeds. Wow I'm glad I purchased a new 4G phone. The thunderbolt is looking real good.
pachkamil said:
They should at least tell people that they won't see 4G speeds until ___________ not show a fake 4G coverage map and call the phones 4G. I am covered by their "4G" and get slower than 3G speeds. Wow I'm glad I purchased a new 4G phone. The thunderbolt is looking real good.
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I get legitimate 3G speeds in SF... really decent 3G speeds, but I bought the "4G" phone to get the 4G speeds, otherwise I could have just stuck with a 3G phone.
San Francisco, CA
earlier today
This is a screenshot of my network page:
And these are my speeds I took earlier today on my way to work:
So does this mean I'm getting that HSDPA data?
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plmiller0905 said:
This is a screenshot of my network page:
And these are my speeds I took earlier today on my way to work:
So does this mean I'm getting that HSDPA data?
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Per the NW page, only HSDPA, not +
They were taken at different times, you really need to look right before or after a test to see at that time.
I dont know if im right but, i dont think we will ever see hsdpa+ or hspa+ in settings network. The big question is, has anybody from any network, seen any gsm 4g phone display hspa+ or hsdpa+ on network connection? I live in puerto rico and my provider is Claropr and i have hit 7,8 and almost 9mb dl and 2mb ul here with the inspire, and all it shows is hsdpa. And yes we have hspa+ rolled out since december!
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Im in the bayarea not not seeing any top speeds non rooted. I live in Dublin Ca and the speed i just got was 1705 up 325 down which is about how its been for 3 weeks. When i go into settings the network reads HSPDA but no plus. ATT coverage map in the bottom corner says this is for 3 g not 4g.
Anyone know if there is more to the backhaul in the sfbay area or is this it? Nowahere near the speeds advertised.
Also anyword on ATT releasing ghe cap on the upload?
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ATT claims they will remove the upload cap in the future, but no date of course. Personally I think the capped upload speed is very critical as I think upload is more important. Counterintuitive.
I'm rooted with flashed radio, so my signal strength icon is only an H, no +
In the settings I am on HSDPA
I was pulling about 5.5Mbps average down, 1.5 up as of a few minutes ago. My initial tests yielded 4-6Mbps down, 1 up.
Maybe it's finally on here in the NYC area?
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I dont know if im right but, i dont think we will ever see hsdpa+ or hspa+ in settings network. The big question is, has anybody from any network, seen any gsm 4g phone display hspa+ or hsdpa+ on network connection? I live in puerto rico and my provider is Claropr and i have hit 7,8 and almost 9mb dl and 2mb ul here with the inspire, and all it shows is hsdpa. And yes we have hspa+ rolled out since december!
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Your probably right. I don't think that we will ever see a + but it will show with speed. Does anyone know any app rooted or not that will show a plus if your connected to hsdpa+ or if this is even possible?
I use LTE On / Off. Last night i turned off 4G before going to bed and when putting it back to CDMA auto (PRL) and now its stuck on 1X. Anyone know how to fix this? My download is ultra slow - i feel im on 9600 baud! I was using Mikrom, flashed to 3 other roms including new radio ROM and it did not fix it.
There is a post with almost an identical name that will explain that the LTE network is down, look around there are quite a few threads that talk about it.
verizons aware of the problem they said there tryin fix it
Depending on the area you are in, there may be an outage. Spoke to cust serv and to tech with VZW and was told, in Seattle, there is a 4G outage causing many TBolt users to default to 3g or 1x
Fail.
Did you bother to read?
It looks like its been fixed here in north Louisiana. 3g is back up and running here.
Edit: false alarm. Still at 1x.
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Not fixed in Texas... Still at 1X
Looks like 3g is back up for me. Not 4g though. Northwest Atlanta, GA.
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As of 3:33am eastern time LTE is back on in metro detroit... Slow as 3g... But it is on.
3G back on in la, no four g yet
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4G is back on in Brooklyn, NY
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i seem to finally be receiving 4G coverage here in San Diego (north county coastal). speeds are no where near as impressive as the 4G they have in downtown San Diego though.
in downtown SD was able to download a 700MB file in about 5 minutes. here in the N.C. coastal area it takes about 20 minutes. still, better then the 1 1/2 - 2 hours it took on 3G.
weird thing though, according to the verizon 4g coverage map on verizon's website, it still says that there is no 4G in my area yet + i was at a verizon store earlier and the 4G phones they have on display still say 3G.
does it have something to do with updating to the new radio(possibly being able to pick up a 4G that isn't officially turned on in this area yet?) i'm also on a sense 3.5 rom.
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i seem to finally be receiving 4G coverage here in San Diego (north county coastal). speeds are no where near as impressive as the 4G they have in downtown San Diego though.
in downtown SD was able to download a 700MB file in about 5 minutes. here in the N.C. coastal area it takes about 20 minutes. still, better then the 1 1/2 - 2 hours it took on 3G.
weird thing though, according to the verizon 4g coverage map on verizon's website, it still says that there is no 4G in my area yet + i was at a verizon store earlier and the 4G phones they have on display still say 3G.
does it have something to do with updating to the new radio(possibly being able to pick up a 4G that isn't officially turned on in this area yet?) i'm also on a sense 3.5 rom.
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The radio might have something to do with it, but there's no way to know for sure. It's kinda pokey in the beginning.
Where in north county? In Oceanside and no 4g yet.
Odds are, they're simply turning it on tower by tower or possibly just testing it. Until it's fully up and running, do NOT expect VZW to say they have 4G in your area or update their online maps.
Should they run radio ads saying "Enjoy amazing 4G speeds on Verizon's network, but only in voxigenboy's general area" ?
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Where in north county? In Oceanside and no 4g yet.
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I'm in Carlsbad (92008) but also tested in Oceanside (92054). 4G all the way.
the radio I'm using is that newer 9## one.. its not the MR 3.5
there was a link to it in that sense 3.5 look-a-like rom thread.
oddly enough, even though Oceanside is closer to the towers I've been getting a stronger signal in Carlsbad. for instance, that Angelo's Burgers in South O, I used to get full 3G reception there.. now on 4G the signal there sucks.
then the Carlsbad library on CVB, it used to have a ****ty 3G signal... now the 4G there is very strong.
Weird, I'm on the fringe of Oceanside but I haven't noticed 4g anywhere i've been. Even downtown. Seen it in some parts of Carlsbad but haven't been around there too recently.
4g seems weird. I am in a strong 4g area but do not get it at my house but do at the station about 2 miles down the road I do.
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Odds are, they're simply turning it on tower by tower or possibly just testing it. Until it's fully up and running, do NOT expect VZW to say they have 4G in your area or update their online maps.
Should they run radio ads saying "Enjoy amazing 4G speeds on Verizon's network, but only in voxigenboy's general area" ?
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^What he said. 4G came and went for about 3 weeks in Indy before it was officially here.
Im disappointed, I live about 45 mins outside of Savannah Georgia, and still no LTE... Only place I pick it up is when I head to Jacksonville/St Augustine area... ISO my LTE
still no LTE
There's still no LTE in 92056, 92058, 92057 or anywhere else in Oceanside. Maybe they were just testing it. Vista, Fallbrook and Camp Pendleton still dont have it either. I noticed that Verizon recently lit up all of Riverside County west of the mountains but it seems like they are doing a poor job in San Diego. They are adding one or two cities at a time. Hopefully, that Riverside County crew will move into our area and show the lazy San Diego Verizon workers how to upgrade a network.
You guys are complaining I am in NJ in the state of Verizon's headquters and we have up north and heading toward phillips that's it and in every time they turn on more radios never do they mention NJ so I am thinking 2013
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I am in Phoenix and have basically no data, I had 1X for a while, rebooted saw 3G for a couple minutes and now nothing again. I see on another board other reports.
Are you see this too?
http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-htc-thunderbolt-forums/157453-data-issues-morning.html
Im having similiar issues in nj. I cant hold 4g, been in 3g but isnt 3g sppeds, and 1x
Same thing here in Dallas TX.
Wow I thought this was only me. I have toggled data and 4g/3g. Rebooted and I am stuck with 3g only. I am running son of a bliss.
No 4G in Beaumont, TX area either. 3G is available. 80 miles east of Houston here.
Same here in Cincinnati. Noticed 1x around 7am, rebooted a number of times. Searched some forums and twitter. Verizon, get with the program, if you have a data problem post it on Twitter so we know.
I can confirm as well in SE Wisconsin, only weak 3G
3G only in Los Angeles as well
this is getting embarrassing for the nations most reliable 4g lte network.
Baltimore area, haven't toggled 4G/3G yet, but my phone currently has no data at all--not even 1X.
EDIT: After 4G toggle, 3G is fine.
Same on Columbus Ohio
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4G back (now) in Phoenix 10:48 local time.
3g only in the "D"
(Detroit)
4g is back for me as well in Atlanta Georgia.
4G is back in Baltimore.
4g problems in Grand Rapids, MI.
I heard it was solar flares. The Hughes net at my work went down too and T mobile had the same problems.
Is everyone back up? BC i'm still stuck on 1x. I talked to VZW yesterday and they told me there were no issues in my area (Indianapolis, IN area), however I am still stuck. Had the SIM replaced last night at local VZW store. Tech support on the phone told me if the SIM didn't take care of it, they would send me a new phone. I'm not convinced that will do any good either if its everywhere. OTOH my wife's 4G samsung charge runs just fine sitting right next to my bolt...
I thought for sure that Bakersfield CA had LTE coverage. I know my verizon buddy's can connect no problem but whats the word on AT&T LTE coverage in Bakersfield? All I ever can connect to is HSPA+
xnerdx said:
I thought for sure that Bakersfield CA had LTE coverage. I know my verizon buddy's can connect no problem but whats the word on AT&T LTE coverage in Bakersfield? All I ever can connect to is HSPA+
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You might wanna look in to flashing a better radio for your device. Head over to the one X dev thread, there is a radio thread where you might find a solution to this problem.
Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
[Radio][RIL]Flashable Radios with RIL files, Map, and AROMA Installer (Updated 7/21)
Good luck! :thumbup:
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xnerdx said:
I thought for sure that Bakersfield CA had LTE coverage. I know my verizon buddy's can connect no problem but whats the word on AT&T LTE coverage in Bakersfield? All I ever can connect to is HSPA+
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According to AT&T's coverage map, Bakersfield does not have LTE
http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/
Only Verizon has LTE in Bakes. As for at&t......they probably have the worse reception in town. Or at least in my area (Rosedale). With so many customers (since the Cingular days) and limited towers, hours that seriously suck can range from noon til 6:30 pm when trying to access internet or data.
I feel you on that I live around ming and new stine and rush hour is killer. I'd expect at&t and its huge market monopoly here would have deployed lte months ago. I guess I'll have to wait until 2013..
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Woot!
Bakersfield LTE is up for at&t now, not to impressive I linger around 12mbps and peak at 22. Hopefully broader coverage will bring things up in terms of speed.
They actually lit up Bakersfield Monday night about 8:00. Its been a good strong signal. Signal also seemed to have increased for HSPA+ phones. Ive been getting 16-25 down and 12-16 up. The AT&T map hasnt been updated since the middle of July, so it wont reflect Bakersfield until they update their map again.