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After using miui...

After using miui I can't go back to any other. The features and functionality of this ROM is just beyond what I ever thought would be possible in an android device.
Their slogan is "Redefining Android" and they surely are.
I was on the fence if I should try this ROM or not since Weapon was pretty awesome too , but after trying this one I'm not looking back.
Thanks goes to Whitehawkx, Segnaro, Jface for making this happen.
****Note****: if themes are not working for you is because you need to go to /data/system and create a folder called theme.
Sent From My G2x running MIUI

Let's post the functionality that this ROM has for those that aren't sure what "we" are talking about.
I will post what I remember and then If you guys remember any other feature post it, then I'll update this post with the feature you posted.
Themes - can be downloaded directly from ROM and apply within the ROM. You can theme things separately like the dialer, status bar, toggles, icons, lock screens, messaging app, etc. You can dip all this with the theme manager engine they use. Ability to change fonts within ROM without restarting phone.
Features -
Dialer - record calls and take notes within the dialer during a call. Two big features I always wanted.
Dialer also works as a T9 keyboard
Browser - scroll up and down with volume rockers (pretty cool), hitting the back button actually goes back, not like other browsers.
Screenshots - by pressing menu+ vol down
Settings - Redesigned setting menu with added features and tabs to categorize each setting menu.
Ability to track data usage
Integrated app killer and app manger by long pressing the home key also by long pressing the back key, closes the app completely.
Lock screen - hold down home button will turn on torch
Toggles - when long pressing a toggle, it will open that toggle setting screen.
Camera - added features like Sutter control, zoom in screen, adjustable brightness on screen, touch to focus and redesigned camera skin.
A whole bunch more that I'm sure I'm forgetting or don't know about.
Keep posting features below!
Sent From My G2x Running MIUI

Dude I totally agree, this rom is just amazing it pretty much uses the same kernel As cm so u know the speed is there, it actually feels a little more fluid. And on any other rom when u go to change the lockscreen or even launcher, u have to do a little , "work" and u have to be a little tech savvy for that part, but with miui they make it so damn easy someone coming from the razor could do it LOL , and there is so much options to choose from, **** sitting on latest kernel source, voodoo, and some badass 3d animations, very cool rom oh and moshe22 when u hit back with the browser it actually goes back a page u don't have to hit it a zillion times, the volume scroll is badass

moshe22 said:
Let's post the functionality that this ROM has for those that aren't sure what "we" are talking about.
I will post what I remember and then If you guys remember any other feature post it, then I'll update this post with the feature you posted.
Themes - can be downloaded directly from ROM and apply within the ROM. You can theme things separately like the dialer, status bar, toggles, icons, lock screens, messaging app, etc. You can dip all this with the theme manager engine they use. Ability to change fonts within ROM without restarting phone.
Features -
Dialer - record calls and take notes within the dialer during a call. Two big features I always wanted.
Browser - scroll up and down with volume rockers (pretty cool)
Screenshots - by pressing menu+ vol down
Settings - Redesigned setting menu with added features and tabs to categorize each setting menu.
Camera - added features like Sutter control, zoom in screen, adjustable brightness on screen, touch to focus and redesigned camera skin.
A whole bunch more that I'm sure I'm forgetting or don't know about.
Keep posting features below!
Sent From My G2x Running MIUI
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+1 do u guys realize to get themes u would have to flash zips or need a theme manager like in cm, dude its crazy how in this rom u can go thru pages of cool stuff to download, then if u want it just apply it, that simple, pure genius

Updated features post with the back button feature in the browser
And yeah this ROM just amazing and full of features.
sarni84 said:
Dude I totally agree, this rom is just amazing it pretty much uses the same kernel As cm so u know the speed is there, it actually feels a little more fluid. And on any other rom when u go to change the lockscreen or even launcher, u have to do a little , "work" and u have to be a little tech savvy for that part, but with miui they make it so damn easy someone coming from the razor could do it LOL , and there is so much options to choose from, **** sitting on latest kernel source, voodoo, and some badass 3d animations, very cool rom oh and moshe22 when u hit back with the browser it actually goes back a page u don't have to hit it a zillion times, the volume scroll is badass
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Sent From My G2x Running MIUI

Is this the miui Tom 1.8.5 all of you are using?
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

I used MIUI on my G2 or vibrant, can't quite remember. I liked it a lot, but the battery life was so poor I couldn't stick with it. How is it on our phones? I don't need 15 or 20 hours or anything, but wouldn't mind something decent.
Also, are there different ports of MIUI for our phone? If so, are they all pretty much the same? Thinking I'm gonna give MIUI another shot, but want to use the version available that will leave the best taste in my mouth.
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Miui 1.8.12
Bspence415 said:
Is this the miui Tom 1.8.5 all of you are using?
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I really want to love MIUI!!
I absolutley love MIUI.. but it is not stable for me. I keep getting lockups and phone shuts off randomly I have tried the latest version 1.8.5 to no avail. if anyone knows a solution, let me know because I would love to stay with MIUI!!! and before i install I always wipe, wipe, wipe..lol

I would recommend whitehawks version since he update it frequently.
TJBunch1228 said:
I used MIUI on my G2 or vibrant, can't quite remember. I liked it a lot, but the battery life was so poor I couldn't stick with it. How is it on our phones? I don't need 15 or 20 hours or anything, but wouldn't mind something decent.
Also, are there different ports of MIUI for our phone? If so, are they all pretty much the same? Thinking I'm gonna give MIUI another shot, but want to use the version available that will leave the best taste in my mouth.
Sent from my LG G2x
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Sent From My G2x Running MIUI

Latest version is 1.8.12 and is based on CM7 latest nightly so is super stable at least as of today using Whitehawkx version.
battery life is pretty good!
deltawye said:
I absolutley love MIUI.. but it is not stable for me. I keep getting lockups and phone shuts off randomly I have tried the latest version 1.8.5 to no avail. if anyone knows a solution, let me know because I would love to stay with MIUI!!! and before i install I always wipe, wipe, wipe..lol
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deltawye said:
I absolutley love MIUI.. but it is not stable for me. I keep getting lockups and phone shuts off randomly I have tried the latest version 1.8.5 to no avail. if anyone knows a solution, let me know because I would love to stay with MIUI!!! and before i install I always wipe, wipe, wipe..lol
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What do you wipe?
The way I do it is: Wipe data, cache, dalvik cache, /system and then flash ROM, fix permission and the enjoy
Sent From My G2x Running MIUI

yeah I wipe dalvic cache, cache, system.. multiple times just for safety, but i havnt fixed permisions.. i will search out 1.8.12 and give it a shot

Been running Miui since last August/September, whenever it was ported to Evo. Sans CM its by far the fastest, smoothest, most stable rom out there. I haven't seen any reason to switch since it was released for G2x. I'm still on 1.7.26, and dont feel the need to upgrade. Thats how good Miui is.
On my G1 I was flashing roms every day. Moved to Evo/NS and flashed once or twice a week.
On my G2x? I think I've flashed mayyybe 4 roms since 4/20. Why? Cause anything LG touches turns to poop. No offense to all the bomb devs, but CM/Miui are the only things worth running on this phone. I dont get why anyone even wants to run a stockish build when CM/Miui are so much better in every single aspect.

moshe22 said:
Latest version is 1.8.12 and is based on CM7 latest nightly so is super stable at least as of today using Whitehawkx version.
battery life is pretty good!
Sent From My G2x Running MIUI
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Where should I go if I want to download this whitehawkx version of 1.8.12?

I am unable to find his version of miui... Can anyone link it here?
Thanks in advance
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA Premium App

jn_vista said:
I am unable to find his version of miui... Can anyone link it here?
Thanks in advance
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Whitehawkx actually specifically requested that it not be linked anywhere other than the forum it's listed in. just google whitehawkx miui and you should find it easily. I'd post the forum name but I don't want any mods here getting pissed off.
Sent from my LG G2x

Any way to get the page in the browser to open in overview instead of zoomed in.
Also the keyboard closes just randomly... very weird. I love this rom too so far but this issue sucks..

Go to settings> programs> browser settings> Advanced> web page> page zoom setting> far
smashpunks said:
Any way to get the page in the browser to open in overview instead of zoomed in.
Also the keyboard closes just randomly...
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Sent From My Stock G2x

Another cool feature: press and hold down the home key, app killer and app manager will open for you, press app killer and kills anything running.
Press and hold the back key in an app and closes the app completely instead of running in the background.
Sent From My Stock G2x

Sense 3.6 l Features l Changelog

Ive just seen on Mike1986s ARHD thread that he has a rom in it with Sense 3.6. Having googles and had a good search i find no mention of this new iteration so i thought id start a thread for people to post new features and changelogs.
Ill make a list of features and things people find in the 2nd post as they are discovered.
Post away and let everyone know your findings!!

Changelog:
Recent apps readded in notification pull-down
Google search-bar is smaller
Setting new widgets is a bit different, you know when you are about to choose a special widget
Background in taskbar is a bit different
Slightly more grey finish to everything
SOME SCREENSHOTS HERE (thanks to loni90)

Good thread.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

hmm i wonder why 3.6 kinda weird they went 3-3.5-3.6
Edit: tried to send a thanks your way but i'm limited to 8 a day kinda bull****

staymunch said:
hmm i wonder why 3.6 kinda weird they went 3-3.5-3.6
Edit: tried to send a thanks your way but i'm limited to 8 a day kinda bull****
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It's probably incremental. No visual changes, just under the hood.

I hope "location" or localisation in france will work

aNYthing24 said:
It's probably incremental. No visual changes, just under the hood.
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Yeah Mike has said there are some major bug fixes in 3.6 but no mention of visual changes yet. Still waiting for the upload to finish then we can check it out!

Looking forward to seeing the changelog

ok according to THIS thread there are no visual changes in 3.6, just bug fixes. Just thought id put it out there so people dont get their hopes up!!

yup i figured as much, i guesse their just moving closer to 4.0

What is the difference between 3.5 and 3.6?

I hope HTC woke up and brought back the scrolling wallpapers

I'm just curious as to why there would be a new firmware for 3.6 there wasn't a need for a new firmware when going from 3.0 to 3.5 and that was big changes (visual). Why the new firmware if its only a "minor " change? Hmmmm interesting *anticipation sets in*
I'm mobile right now

After a bit of arguing and commotion Mikes links are now back up! Head over to his thread, check the 4th post to download. Be warned though because of all the attention the thread's been getting my download is REALLY slow (might just be my connection though!!)

rddocke said:
I'm just curious as to why there would be a new firmware for 3.6 there wasn't a need for a new firmware when going from 3.0 to 3.5 and that was big changes (visual). Why the new firmware if its only a "minor " change? Hmmmm interesting *anticipation sets in*
I'm mobile right now
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The firmware is for the ICS ROM part, not the sense part.
Am I right?

Billyvnilly said:
The firmware is for the ICS ROM part, not the sense part.
Am I right?
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Actually, probably both together as Sense is so deep in ICS framework.

Sense 3.6 restores the Recent Apps list in the drop-down notification bar that went missing in the ICS version of Sense 3.5

retardedrockstar said:
Sense 3.6 restores the Recent Apps list in the drop-down notification bar that went missing in the ICS version of Sense 3.5
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Thats cool tho.. But, i got used to sexy task manager tho... its still there ofcourse..

The initial Setup Wizard is also slightly different at the Google Account bit. I think it lacked the icons for things like GMail, Market etc. so it was more plain IIRC.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using Tapatalk

sense 3.6 brings a more Android 4.0 design integration... not much but in some places. Like when you install something. An app, or set face unlock or anything. you see a google native look. I like it.
app logos are a bit smaller?
Google search-bar is smaller.
setting new widgets is a bit different, you know when you are about to choose a special widget.
background in taskbar is a bit different, and speeking of taskbar, you now got "recent apps" back again, been missing in sense lately. (but you´ve mentioned it already)
slightly more grey finish to everything, dont like it, seems washed-off. would like it darker, and more black-ish

My not so good review

Went from a G2 to this One S yesterday. I'm not too impressed.
No dedicated menu button
There is enough room for one on the bottom but they only put 3.
What happens now is that Android (or Sense or something) detects when there are menu options and puts a button on the screen for it taking away real estate from the application.
No trackball
I used this a lot on my G2 especially on web pages with small links that I didn't want to missclick. I already miss it. I also used the trackball wake feature in CM on my G2. Now there is only one way to turn the screen on and its a little hard to do one handed. The trackball was in a very natural position to turn on with your thumb. Now without it, it is very awkward to power on with your thumb, you have to hold it very high and I'm affraid of dropping it. Alternatively I could turn it on with my index finger but it spreads my hand way out and still feels weird.
No folders
I'm not sure if this is an ICS thing or a Sense thing (because this phone is an unholy bastardization), but I can't figure out a way to create folders on my home screens. I'm not talking about the Sense folders for applications either. In normal Android builds you can add shortcuts, widgets, folders. The Pandora application shipped with a folder called "My Stations" or something like that. I used this because it only took up 1x1 on a homescreen and let me choose which station was opened. Without it, you need to open the application and it immediately starts playing the last radio station. This is annoying.
Resolution
The DPI isn't any better than my G2, its just a bigger screen. This is pretty disappointing. I would like a crisper display in a flagship device.
Bloat
Its pretty bad. I know most users want Facebook, Twitter, Dropbox, etc... but how about you let us select what we want during the phone setup.
Misc
This is my first Sense device and my first ICS device so again, not sure where this crap is coming from.... When you install an application it creates a shortcut for it on one of your home screens. Putting a shortcut is the simplist thing you can do in Android, why not leave it for the use to do if they want to do it.
On my way to work I was listening to I Heart Radio and while the live streams were okay when I went to the "pandora"-like functionality it would only play one song and then stop. This never happened on my G2. Don't know whats going on here.
I don't care for the browser (which they stupidly call "internet").
I don't care for all of the account options. I went to share a page in the browser, I wanted to email it to myself. So when I went to share page it let me select how to share it. I got "Facebook for HTC Sense", "Mail", "Twitter for HTC Sense", and "Dropbox". I did set up Facebook, but I did not set up mail, twitter, or dropbox. What I wanted was GMail which I had to select "See all..." Then I saw a plethora of garbage bloat that they bundle with the phone and had to scroll down to get to GMail. After I went though this experience I went to share another page to see if GMail showed up at the top... it didn't.
I'm sure I'll have more complaints the more I use it. I used my fiance's upgrade for this one but I get an upgrade in 3 months. If CM9 isn't out by then she'll be using this phone and I'll upgrade to a SGSIII or that yet to be named quad-core LG phone.
Summary
CM9 can't come fast enough.
EDIT
I'll add some good things here.
Good things
Again, this is coming from a G2 so in 2 years things should be better anyways....
It is very thin, and very light.
It has a front facing camera which my G2 did not.
The flashlight, though not as bright as the "High Brightness" Cyanogenmod setting on the G2, is still pretty bright.
The speaker seems to put out a lot of sound. Can't attest to the quality yet but the volume is there.
EDIT #2
Some more good and bad....
Skype Useless
... probably related to Wifi crackling. One of the things I was looking forward to with this phone was the ability to make video calls via Skype. My fiance has an iPad2, my in-laws each have a G2X, and my brother has a SGSII. Skype is useless on this device. There is echoing / cracking and video lag even when on Wifi. I called my brother with this One S and it was useless. I then called him on an iPad2 and it was great. I'm wondering if the problem has to do with Beats Audio. We'll have to wait for an AOSP ROM without Beats to find out.
So I unlocked/rooted/ROM'd ...
I am now running Black Dragon 4.0. I LOVE the menu hack to get rid of the stupid 3 dot menu on all the screens. I like that they kept the ability to longpress home to get the default behavior as well. The launcher seems nice though I haven't played with it too much (which is a good thing, means they have good defaults).
Can't wait for the kernel sources to be released so we can make some more CM9 progress. I really miss the buttons in the dropdown for wifi, brightness, bluetooth, etc. Now I have to dropdown, click settings, scroll down and find brighness.

How's the battery life? My G2 has some HORRENDOUS battery... like it can drain 20% an hour... I go to school for like 6/7 hours and I can leave with like a <20% battery life. Currently using MIUI because that seems to be the best battery life.
Edit: As for a menu button, Google is trying to get rid of that. I read a post about it a couple of months ago. They say it was useless. I completely disagree because I use it quite a lot. I use it way more than the search button which I have literally probably used less than 30 times and I've been on an Android device since the G1 came out.

For everything you just said mostly there are workarounds.
The deidcated menu button now exists through roms...the three button thing on screen is removed. Change of dpi works fine on no sense roms I'm set on 195 on sense not as good. Play market you can stop adding apps onto screens
Bloat just remove yourself root explorer..
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Battery lifes good also...
As I said workarounds exist
Also get a different launcher and ditch sense or just get Nova or apex
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Love this. G2 FOORRREEEVVVAAAAHHHH

.ili.music.ili. said:
How's the battery life? My G2 has some HORRENDOUS battery... like it can drain 20% an hour... I go to school for like 6/7 hours and I can leave with like a <20% battery life.
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I'm the wrong person to ask about battery life (at least during the week). I work in one of these new fancy energy efficient "Green" buildings. We have coating on our windows that block UV with the side effect of also blocking cellular signals. Everyone that works here puts their phones on airplane mode to save battery because we have 0 signal and the phone search all day.
I'll know better this weekend about battery life.

arknailed7754 said:
For everything you just said mostly there are workarounds.
The deidcated menu button now exists through roms...the three button thing on screen is removed. Change of dpi works fine on no sense roms I'm set on 195 on sense not as good. Play market you can stop adding apps onto screens
Bloat just remove yourself root explorer..
Battery lifes good also...
As I said workarounds exist
Also get a different launcher and ditch sense or just get Nova or apex
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How did they implement the dedicated menu button?
How do I ditch Sense?... what is Nova / apex?
Do I need root to install another launcher?

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FunkyELF said:
How did they implement the dedicated menu button?
How do I ditch Sense?... what is Nova / apex?
Do I need root to install another launcher?
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no you can install launchers without root..from market just look for them
to ditch sense though you will need root..and to change dpi you will need root..my advice root lol
by ditching sense i mean install a non sense rom like black dragon or untouchables that strip sense away so the majority is ice cream sandwich without the bloatfest. some apps will be kept in but just use root explorer to rid the rom of it.
the dedicated menu button and ridding the screen of the three dots at the bottom is also because its been taken away and remapped by devs..so again..you need root
most of all..development will kick in soon..so better to root..or if not just use a different launcher but you dont really accomplish what your setting out to do
leedroid should be here soon with a rom,and will do away with most of the bloat anyway...so youll keep sense and most things you complained about will be sorted..
the main thing here is..root..worth it..yes..without..pointless and youll be stuck with htcs crap stock rom..pretty poor for me..but coming from another phone with loads of development..probably biased of how it should be

No Folders?
Just long-tap on the icon and drag it to another icon. THe folder will creat automaticly.

FunkyELF said:
Went from a G2 to this One S yesterday. I'm not too impressed.
No dedicated menu button
Root and ROM it. People are remapping the multitask key as the menu button, and hold-home now does the multitask. You're on XDA, so I assume you're enthused enough to root and ROM it.
No trackball
Seriously. Please find me an Android device with a trackball nowadays. It's gone...you're just gonna have to deal with it.
Resolution
This display seems pretty crisp. We're working with phones with relatively small displays. There's only so many pixels you can pack into until it doesn't even matter. 720p is about as far as we need to go on phone screens. The qHD screen on this phone has vivid colors and all the qualities of Super AMOLED. The resolution seems plenty high to me. Are you starting 1inch away from the phone and observing pixels?
Bloat
Welcome to flagship carrier devices. Again, you're on XDA, and fully capable of rooting it and removing all that crap. The G2 was a 1-off device that had pretty much stock Android. Consider it a Nexus device, more or less. With a flagship phone, you're going to get bloatware.
Misc
This is my first Sense device and my first ICS device so again, not sure where this crap is coming from.... When you install an application it creates a shortcut for it on one of your home screens. Putting a shortcut is the simplist thing you can do in Android, why not leave it for the use to do if they want to do it.
Sense has nothing to do with this. The new Google Play Store now by default places new apps' icons on the homescreen. It's as easy as going to the prefs in Play Store and disabling. Blame Google if you're going to blame someone.
On my way to work I was listening to I Heart Radio and while the live streams were okay when I went to the "pandora"-like functionality it would only play one song and then stop. This never happened on my G2. Don't know whats going on here.
Don't know what to tell you, but it's obvious that you're describing some sort of software issue, not a hardware issue. If it worked fine on the live streams, then your data connection worked. Talk to iHeartRadio.
I don't care for the browser (which they stupidly call "internet").
So install a new one! ICS Browser+ is exactly like the stock browser. There's also Chrome and Opera. Cmon...
I don't care for all of the account options. I went to share a page in the browser, I wanted to email it to myself. So when I went to share page it let me select how to share it. I got "Facebook for HTC Sense", "Mail", "Twitter for HTC Sense", and "Dropbox". I did set up Facebook, but I did not set up mail, twitter, or dropbox. What I wanted was GMail which I had to select "See all..." Then I saw a plethora of garbage bloat that they bundle with the phone and had to scroll down to get to GMail. After I went though this experience I went to share another page to see if GMail showed up at the top... it didn't.
This is the one thing I disliked and will agree with you on, although once again, rooting and ROMing can take care of it. That or removing bloatware.
I'm sure I'll have more complaints the more I use it. I used my fiance's upgrade for this one but I get an upgrade in 3 months. If CM9 isn't out by then she'll be using this phone and I'll upgrade to a SGSIII or that yet to be named quad-core LG phone.
Suit yourself. 4.7 inches is just too big, and at these speeds, you're at the mercy of your data connection, not the processor.
Summary
CM9 can't come fast enough.
AMEN
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I think nearly all of your points are moot. A lot of your review seems to be based on your lack of willingness to change some preferences and MANAGE your device. If you were on a G2, then you never had to manage stuff like this. Consider it a new experience. If you wanted stock Android, you should've gotten a Galaxy Nexus. I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.

nickmv said:
I think nearly all of your points are moot. A lot of your review seems to be based on your lack of willingness to change some preferences and MANAGE your device. If you were on a G2, then you never had to manage stuff like this. Consider it a new experience. If you wanted stock Android, you should've gotten a Galaxy Nexus. I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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i agree with you there,its all about learning curves..no sense roms are fairly close to stock..its just the settings that are different now..he_stheone has already added certain elements of stock android..so its fairly close..just the settings..that are the main difference now.

jacakowal said:
No Folders?
Just long-tap on the icon and drag it to another icon. THe folder will creat automaticly.
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Those aren't the folders I'm talking about. I think what I'm talking about are called live folders. In AOSP builds of Android when you long press on an empty space on one of your screens you can choose widgets, folders, shortcuts, contacts, and other things I can't remember.
With Sense you only get widgets and shortcuts.... no folders, no contacts, etc... just widgets and shortcuts.

Isn't that minor thing?
Sent from my HTC One S using XDA Premium App

nickmv said:
I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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I didn't see this one listed in the ALL ROMS post here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1584163
Where is the info on that ROM?

Dude its in development section
Black dragon 4.0
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nickmv said:
I think nearly all of your points are moot. A lot of your review seems to be based on your lack of willingness to change some preferences and MANAGE your device. If you were on a G2, then you never had to manage stuff like this. Consider it a new experience. If you wanted stock Android, you should've gotten a Galaxy Nexus. I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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Going to have to side with you on this one. This phone is definitly a great device, give it some time, dig in a little bit. Much better than my Tmo-SGS2.

most of things you mentioned isnt a "bad thing" just you dont know how to operate the phone, or its just different (opinion at that point).
Also you didnt like things which are for all devices, not just one S

FunkyELF said:
Those aren't the folders I'm talking about. I think what I'm talking about are called live folders. In AOSP builds of Android when you long press on an empty space on one of your screens you can choose widgets, folders, shortcuts, contacts, and other things I can't remember.
With Sense you only get widgets and shortcuts.... no folders, no contacts, etc... just widgets and shortcuts.
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The long press, dragging and combining of icons together is AOSP folders in Ice Cream Sandwich. The long press on the desktop to add folder is long gone and is not coming back.
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arknailed7754 said:
Dude its in development section
Black dragon 4.0
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Sorry... you said Black Magic, not Black dragon.
I'll give it a try in a couple weeks. I like to use my phone a bit before rooting to make sure I didn't get a lemon.
Does the camera work on this one?

Just got the phone and here are my negatives:
1. With lowest brightness setting the screen is horrible (but if you increase it a bit, its ok)
2. No switches in pulldown menu ? I though Sense always had that.....
3. Bottom plastic is not 100% flush at one corner (maybe will exchange, maybe not)
4. In navigation I just couldnt find "setting" button anywhere.....whats up with that ?
gonna go to Verizon and compare to Nexus....I still need Tmo SIM and stores are in same place anyway....I am not a phone freak not wasting time here
Its also very true that until you have 2 devices in hand you cant really compare screen quality...I though my G2x IPS panel for super great, but compared to One S its very warm colored and whites have red tint. Its also hard to use in lowest brightness even in dark room....but with G2x case its because screen is simply too dark, with One S its bright but disgusting to look at due to some "noise"

Installing Sense 4.0 Roms

I am currently running ARHD 6.6.4 and while it's great, I think I'm getting a little tired of Sense 3.6. My question is that, other than the usual superwiping and flashing the zip, is there anything else I need to do to? I already have the 3.32 firmware.

sameermishra726337 said:
I am currently running ARHD 6.6.4 and while it's great, I think I'm getting a little tired of Sense 3.6. My question is that, other than the usual superwiping and flashing the zip, is there anything else I need to do to? I already have the 3.32 firmware.
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rather than superwipe..use "format all partitions except sdcard" form 4EXT->wipe|format
that option is very well supported when changing roms

What ROM's are you using?
I've installed this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25154538&postcount=8637
There is already several things that I miss from 3.6.
For instance the application list when pulling down the notifications screen.
Also do I miss the quick settings menu and the task manager. Are these missing only in this port, or is it actually removed as default from the original "Sense 4" ROM on "HTC One X" ?

prototypen said:
What ROM's are you using?
I've installed this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25154538&postcount=8637
There is already several things that I miss from 3.6.
For instance the application list when pulling down the notifications screen.
Also do I miss the quick settings menu and the task manager. Are these missing only in this port, or is it actually removed as default from the original "Sense 4" ROM on "HTC One X" ?
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You don't really need task manager.... Just long press the home ui button
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I know that this is possible, but you get no cpu/memory statistics or possibility to force close the applications from the program list you'll brows from the home button.
The question was not for if i need them or not.
You don't need chocolate, but you want it and eat it non the less.
It's all about how you actually work with your phone and how you use it.
These features (program list, quick settings and task manager) were really nice, easy and quick to access. So I am really wondering what HTC are doing if they actually are removing nice to have features that's neither bloaty, confusing or in the way.
The question are still if this is actually the same for the original One X ROM and all the other Sense 4 phones, or if this is just removed from the ported ROM?

prototypen said:
What ROM's are you using?
I've installed this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25154538&postcount=8637
There is already several things that I miss from 3.6.
For instance the application list when pulling down the notifications screen.
Also do I miss the quick settings menu and the task manager. Are these missing only in this port, or is it actually removed as default from the original "Sense 4" ROM on "HTC One X" ?
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Hi !
ARHD is definitely a great ROM but one grows tired of the Sense 3.6 look. I really enjoy the deSensed look of some ROMs but those were still buggy. So, the nicest , most balanced alternative I found so far is SharkDrOiD S3 v1.4 which has, I think, all the features you're looking for.
You might want to try it out.
Cheers !

Let's try to fix Jelly bean official ROM bugs !!!

Hi there!
I have an HTC One S S4 and like all of you I have updated to jelly bean but I have been kind of disappointed because of some bugs/removed features that I have encountered in the use of the new ROM, here are some of the one I have found:
1) the new keyboard is laggy expecially because of the assisted writing. Also I don't like the new layout which doesn't have the "remove keyboard" button.
2) mobile wallpaper on the background in ICS move themself while sliding now in JB the background image is stuck, it's not moving while sliding through the pages of the home.
3) there is lag for the live wallpapers on the home...don't know maybe it's the rosie
4) equalization option inside the music player has been removed, the music player from stock rom 1.78 had it
5) meteo and music widgets has no more 3d effect while sliding through the home, it would be nice to have the old widgets back!!
Let's try to report here all of the bugs/removed features and also the fix for them ( always if they exists ). Actually I think that HTC isn't going to realese any more updates and this is disappointing.
THIS THREAD IS FOR FIX BUGS OF SENSE BY KEEP USING SENSE INTERFACE NOT BY USING OTHERS HOME LAUNCHERS

light_n_roses said:
Hi there!
I have an HTC One S S4 and like all of you I have updated to jelly bean but I have been kind of disappointed because of some bugs/removed features that I have encountered in the use of the new ROM, here are some of the one I have found:
1) the new keyboard is laggy expecially because of the assisted writing. Also I don't like the new layout which doesn't have the "remove keyboard" button.
2) mobile wallpaper on the background in ICS move themself while sliding now in JB the background image is stuck, it's not moving while sliding through the pages of the home.
3) there is lag for the live wallpapers on the home...don't know maybe it's the rosie
4) equalization option inside the music player has been removed, the music player from stock rom 1.78 had it
5) meteo and music widgets has no more 3d effect while sliding through the home, it would be nice to have the old widgets back!!
Let's try to report here all of the bugs/removed features and also the fix for them ( always if they exists ). Actually I think that HTC isn't going to realese any more updates and this is disappointing.
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For me one of the most annoying things it's the keyboard too.
Also for the "remove keyboard" button that I use a lot, my problem it's that i made a lot of mistake during typing due to the dimension of the keyboard. I check with two phone near, one with JB and the other with the old ICS, and the keyboard of the JB it's smaller, and the area of a single character it's smaller!

USB PC connection. I like ICS because I can see files on my phone just like on any other removeable usb device.

dariusz666 said:
USB PC connection. I like ICS because I can see files on my phone just like on any other removeable usb device.
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You can use TWRP if you really need mass storage.

AW: Let's try to fix Jelly bean official ROM bugs !!!
This shouldn't be posted in the dev section.
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk 2

Anyways it should be continued here as it's not new.

Darknites said:
You can use TWRP if you really need mass storage.
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But still it's not comfortable. If there is option to enable this feature, should be enabled.

dariusz666 said:
But still it's not comfortable. If there is option to enable this feature, should be enabled.
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Its not the best but if you want to keep JB Sense then thats all you can do for mass storage.

Two things:
1 - Wrong section. Don't be a noob (too late...).
2 - HTC's JellyBean sucks. There is already a solution to fix ALL of these issues: GO TO AOSP. It's 10.5378x times better. I'm never going back to Sense now...

Closed Source Project said:
Two things:
1 - Wrong section. Don't be a noob (too late...).
2 - HTC's JellyBean sucks. There is already a solution to fix ALL of these issues: GO TO AOSP. It's 10.5378x times better. I'm never going back to Sense now...
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Seriously...asking to fix what are minor appearance and usability bugs in Sense is pretty much a full time job. If you're complaining about the wallpaper and 3d effects in widgets, you might as well make a list of all the ways Sense looks like crap starting with the basic color scheme and jarring difference in appearance when AOSP blue peeks through Sense green.

Closed Source Project said:
Two things:
1 - Wrong section. Don't be a noob (too late...).
2 - HTC's JellyBean sucks. There is already a solution to fix ALL of these issues: GO TO AOSP. It's 10.5378x times better. I'm never going back to Sense now...
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el_smurfo said:
Seriously...asking to fix what are minor appearance and usability bugs in Sense is pretty much a full time job. If you're complaining about the wallpaper and 3d effects in widgets, you might as well make a list of all the ways Sense looks like crap starting with the basic color scheme and jarring difference in appearance when AOSP blue peeks through Sense green.
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If I would have fixed those bugs/things by using another launcher first of all I would have NOT open this thread and second I would have NOT bought an HTC device in the first place. I like sense and I want to keep using it, also I think that a lot of people think the same. If you want to use CWD or something like that you are free to do that and nobody has invited you here.
P.S. I apologize for posting in the wrong section

Maverick87Shaka said:
For me one of the most annoying things it's the keyboard too.
Also for the "remove keyboard" button that I use a lot, my problem it's that i made a lot of mistake during typing due to the dimension of the keyboard. I check with two phone near, one with JB and the other with the old ICS, and the keyboard of the JB it's smaller, and the area of a single character it's smaller!
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I had red on the jelly bean official thread that someone fix the lag on the keyboard by doing a fresh install with the RUU and wiping everythin ( I have updated via OTA ), but I have never tried because I was skeptical about this, have you tried??

light_n_roses said:
I had red on the jelly bean official thread that someone fix the lag on the keyboard by doing a fresh install with the RUU and wiping everythin ( I have updated via OTA ), but I have never tried because I was skeptical about this, have you tried??
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Try jelly bean keyboard pro, no lag at all and you can choose the size of the keys and the keyboard

Hi,
On top of that mentioned, I'm working with Hebrew UI and not the only one who faced a FC on the calendar when trying to enter/change a meeting with a recipient.
The same procedure while on English UI is all fine.
Already opened a help ticket which was already escalated to the technical support as BUG.

In terms of official roms, I see no benefit with JB over say, ViperS 1.2.1 (ICS).
In fact, I think its inferior in almost every way (things like no USB Mass storage mode etc).
I ran stock ICS for quite a long time (compared to what I normally do) and was quite happy with it, nothing particularly wrong with it.
Then came the JB OTA, and the forums got flooded with issues :silly:

I'm going to format my phone to see if then the keyboard keep lagging...I just need some times to do that...

Can I ask, with the new JB update, do you lose the ability to connect the phone to a PC and access the SD Card (as a removable drive)?

KACE321 said:
Can I ask, with the new JB update, do you lose the ability to connect the phone to a PC and access the SD Card (as a removable drive)?
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when you connect the phone to the PC you will see that device on the pc explorer and by entering in it you can access the drive but you cannot connect it as a removable disk...indeed this is disappointing
By the way I have erased all the data and reset the phone completely, now the keyboard it's a little better, less lag but still worst of the one on ICS

well the keyboard is pretty much the same..a little better but still laggy, I want the old back!!