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Put it to a real test. Went to the grand prix today in st. pete.
Didnt even have a full charge around 90%. Had 4g on all day.. Brightness all the way up. Facebook , twitter, and 2 e-mail accounts running in the background. Took tons of video clips and tons of pictures, and streamed music through the bluetooth on the way home. As I type this its been 10 hours since it came off the charger and its at 50% battery with all the same items running.
At 1st I had very very bad battery life. But after using it for a few days and then doing a battery pull (read it would get better after all this) it has been working great, with the same or more use then I was doing the 1st few days of ownership. Just wanted to share a postive experience on battery life since I keep hearing and reading so many negative things.
Edit: Thunderbolt not tunderbolt LOL
Thanks for the tip.
I'm noob w battery. Do you mean just charge it full, pull it out and put it back in and it lasts you that much? I'm skeptical....The most I could have so far is 12 hours and I have 3 bars (out of 10) left.
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Thanks for the tip.
I'm noob w battery. Do you mean just charge it full, pull it out and put it back in and it lasts you that much? I'm skeptical....The most I could have so far is 12 hours and I have 3 bars (out of 10) left.
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The main reason people are having drain on 4g from what i heard was the software for the radio was re-written at the LAST minute (the reason for the delay) because they had to change their 700 MHz frequency just a bit higher.. something like 5 or 10 Mhz due to interference with with communication towers at airports. this sucker keeps dropping 4g like its no ones business. the new baseband which will be pushed out in the first update for the phone (hopefully in next month) should correct it.
Thats funny because i was at the gp today and my battery died before i left at 1p. Took a couple of pictures and 1 video. Used gps for like 10 mins and that was it. Stayed in my pocket for the rest of the day.
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I Disabled my 4G with dialing the *#*#(forgot the 4 numbers)*#*# and my battery has been lasting me alot longer
I'm in a 4G area so I have the phone set to LTE mode only and I get great battery life.
I probably have the worst battery life ever... 70% before putting it away and not using it. 5 hours later, I check my battery and I'm at 10%!! I didn't even use it!
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my battery was about to die on me today within 3 hours of being off the charger, granted it was with heavy use.. flashing multiple roms using titanium backup etc... but i still think that is asinine..
Powell730 said:
my battery was about to die on me today within 3 hours of being off the charger, granted it was with heavy use.. flashing multiple roms using titanium backup etc... but i still think that is asinine..
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anourack said:
I probably have the worst battery life ever... 70% before putting it away and not using it. 5 hours later, I check my battery and I'm at 10%!! I didn't even use it!
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U need to learn how to charge it. Search around.
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The battery life on the TB is just as good as it was on my rooted dinc with a custom kernal. I have no complaints with stock unrooted TB so far and I use the **** out of it.
I turned off 4g and am going 16 hours on 50% battery. Really, to sit in my pocket, do calls, text, and check email I don't need 4g. I too noticed the 4g radio switching on and off constantly. Hopefully the baseband update will fix this.
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I turned off 4g and am going 16 hours on 50% battery. Really, to sit in my pocket, do calls, text, and check email I don't need 4g. I too noticed the 4g radio switching on and off constantly. Hopefully the baseband update will fix this.
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It has more to do with where you live and how good your 4G coverage is
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i get 12hrs easy with moderate use. All I've done is turn off the GPS services when not needed and disable the lock screen... hope things improve for everyone having issues... :/
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What do you mean, is there a special way to charge it now?
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What do you mean, is there a special way to charge it now?
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I think he may be referring to the "bump" charge. Where you charge the phone to full, unplug it, turn it off, charge it to full again, unplug, turn it on, and charge it to full again. Not sure if this is an HTC thing or just a general lithium ion battery thing. But it helps IMO.
I get about 12 hours of battery life with moderate use. I little web surfing, lots of texting, light app usage. My phone is constantly switching from 4G to 3G when I'm indoors. Outside though I'm fine. I'm surprised about the different experiences people are having with battery life.
Since I can't get through a whole day without it dying I bought a second home charger on amazon. I'd like to get the extended battery, but it looks like it'd make this phone too big at that point. I wish there was some better battery tech coming out soon, since there hasn't been too much progression on that front.
Turn on the wifi radio. When you are home or anywhere you have access to wifi, the device will automatically turn the 4g radio off when wifi is up. That simple change has made a huge difference and I dont have to worry about turning the 4g radio on/off manually.
I've been seeing, under heavy use, at minimum 8 hours of use consistently since I've been through a few cycles, including bump charging the first few cycles. Also, a few things that greatly helped me:
Read somewhere that the stock blockbuster app, even if it has never been opened, has a service that updates the movie catalog in the background. Run the app, update it, and in settings turn off movie catalog updates. After doing this my battery didn't drain nearly as fast while in my pocket. I can't verify that this actually helps, but it did for me. I disabled the 4G radio since I live in a 3G area as well.
I also run Green Power as of this morning. My phone has been running over 12 hour with 3:30 of that being actual usage and I'm at 68% remaining. I have it set to 1 minute on and 10 off for data while it is locked in my pocket.
Beyond that, GPS is disabled unless I need it. So is WiFi. Brightness is at about 30%, with a widget to bump it to full when I'm outside in sunlight. I also noticed a big jump when I disabled HTC sense Facebook updates, and used stock Facebook instead. Every time I went to contacts it would download that contacts Facebook updates, which is pointless and uses data constantly under normal usage.
Of course your mileage may vary, but this all gets me through the day under normal usage, and over a half day under heavy usage.
I am currently at 8.5 hours with 79% left on my battery. Stock Battery. If I didn't have to work tomorrow, and be able to make phone calls and such I'd leave my phone unplugged all night to see how long it can go.
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I am currently at 8.5 hours with 79% left on my battery. Stock Battery. If I didn't have to work tomorrow, and be able to make phone calls and such I'd leave my phone unplugged all night to see how long it can go.
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I'm assuming thats with Virus Rom as it says in your sig? If so, that makes me want to try it. I'm stock unrooted right now, haven't had time to invest in rooting the ADB original method yet, don't want to rush through it. When I do, I fully intend to try that rom out.
So here's a screen grab of my phone's battery. I work 9-5. Started the day with fully charged battery, and end of work day it's almost dead. Honestly, I never thought it would be this bad. I don't play games or watch endless videos on youtube. I've sent about 15 texts messages max, used the phone to make about 4 calls for a max talk time of 6min. And browsed the net for no longer than 5min. I have wifi always off, GPS off, my screen is always set right down to absolute minimum all the time. I have never used live wallpaper, and have a black wallpaper. All I've done to this phone is root it and remove a lot of bloatware. Nothing else. I've read through the forum and came upon this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092249
So without running the Bali kernel or running any specific rom, Is this the expected battery life for the average person who just leaves the phone completely stock.
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JuiceDefender works!!! Battery now last much longer. Thanks goes to jager555 for the great suggestion.
Most high end ones are. because android runs things in the background and allows you to customize many settings, Battery life usually looks like that when you first get your phone. That said once you get familiar with your phone you will start to recognize things that run in the background that serve you no purpose and you can stop them or get rid of that app. You can also get custom roms that have great modifications to enhance your battery's life. It takes some experimentation but gone are the days of getting 4 days out of you Razr. Try searching "battery saver" in the market, too.
It could look like this...
Well I have to say that's quite shocking. The average person just has no clue on how to flash roms or anything like it. They just charge their phone and go. It really makes me wonder why Google or the phone manufacturers wouldn't think battery life to be a priority. The battery life isn't just bad, its unacceptably bad.
Thanks for the input though.
Yeah no thats not normal. When i first got this phone i could go up to twelve hours non stop with regular use text here and make some phone calls, watch one or two videos... And i still had battery left probably like 40% maybe less. Well at least for me i dont know if i was a special case or not.
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if you are on stock and do not use the bali kernel, get Juice Defender from the market. try it out for 2 days and get back to me on how it works. if you want the best battery life, especially since you take off gps and wifi, set it to aggressive. that should make the battery last MUCH longer with your type of usage. but once again, use it for 2-3 days for it to settle in properly
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if you are on stock and do not use the bali kernel, get Juice Defender from the market. try it out for 2 days and get back to me on how it works. if you want the best battery life, especially since you take off gps and wifi, set it to aggressive. that should make the battery last MUCH longer with your type of usage. but once again, use it for 2-3 days for it to settle in properly
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Will do. You got my hopes up.
its usually the screens, emails, and txts that kill my battery lol
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Will do. You got my hopes up.
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yea, my dad is on stock with this phone and it wouldnt last from 7am to 2pm. now it lasts from 7am to at least 8pm with the same type of usage. its a neat program. i hope it works well for you.
I'll second juice defender. Even the free beta version has helped my phone last a long time. but if you aren't using your phone much, you should really get a lot better battery life than that. if it's brand new, it can take the battery a couple of charges from a full drain to get up to snuff.
With light use, I can get well over 2 days, and have even gotten over 3. Here's a screenshot I took a couple of weeks ago.
mike-y was the one who introduced me to juice defender, btw. great find, man
Wow, Tempott, that's very short battery life. I actually had pretty decent battery life on stock. I lasted about 12 hours on moderate use. Then again, it's funny that I last 18 hours on very heavy use now with ICBINB with 4G on, first level brightness, and sync always on (no JuiceDefender, etc.).
i am using Audiophile ROM. i get 10-15h of battery life.
Im using black ice with bali 3.1uv dsexton's build.prop and im getting round 12-15 with heavy use(mobile AP, pandora, calls)
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Did you try juice defender? if so, what were the results?
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Did you try juice defender? if so, what were the results?
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Sorry for the late reply, but I just wanted to give the app a thorough usage. I'm happy to say it really makes a difference. I was so disappointed with the battery life that I had a serious bout of buyer's remorse. This App made a world of difference. Thanks for the suggestion! Glad to have this phone now. Check out the screen shot!
Nice!! that's great. I liked the beta app so much I went ahead and paid for the "plus" version. "Plus" gives JD control over wifi, and lets you set a "night mode" that turns off data/wifi/gps/bluetooth during the night when you sleep. There is also app control, which I played with, but ended up just disabling it (makes things a lot simpler).
Honestly, if the beta is working for you, there isn't much need for the paid versions. especially if you put your phone in airplane mode when you got to sleep (or just turn it off).
btw, current uptime = 40 hours, 45 mins, and I still have 70% battery left.
It seems to me Battery Calibration doesn't work...however, this phone lasts longer than the Sensation, which personally sucks.
battery calibration works fine. make sure your phone is charged to 100%. check spare parts amd make sure it is at 4200mV. sometimes, if it is not calibrated properly, it will show 100% and not 4200. unplug the phone and immediately plug it back in and you will notice a fluctuation in the numbers. usually, it is a big fluctuation. once you are as close to 4200 as you think you are going to get while the phone is plugged in, open the battery calibration app and click calibrate. then immediately unplug the phone. use it until it is completely dead (i do it until i shuts down). once this is done, charge the phone until it is 100%. do no unplug the phone until it is at 100%. then drain it again. and charge it to 100% again. after that, use it normally for 2 to 3 days and you will notice the difference in efficiency.
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battery calibration works fine. make sure your phone is charged to 100%. check spare parts amd make sure it is at 4200mV. sometimes, if it is not calibrated properly, it will show 100% and not 4200. unplug the phone and immediately plug it back in and you will notice a fluctuation in the numbers. usually, it is a big fluctuation. once you are as close to 4200 as you think you are going to get while the phone is plugged in, open the battery calibration app and click calibrate. then immediately unplug the phone. use it until it is completely dead (i do it until i shuts down). once this is done, charge the phone until it is 100%. do no unplug the phone until it is at 100%. then drain it again. and charge it to 100% again. after that, use it normally for 2 to 3 days and you will notice the difference in efficiency.
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I would like to add that the first charge drains amazingly fast. You can be idling your phone the whole day, and it'll still be gone.
After you go through a few charges, it'll be omgwtfbbqhax battery life.
Btw, I'm betting Bali 3.3UV + JD is pretty beast battery life compared to Bali 3.3 + JD, right?
Juice defender works great for me as well! Very noticeable difference
What do you guys do to maximize your battery life? I just can't seem to get decent life. Average is probably 5 hours with heavy usage.
Any recommendations?
Sorry if there is already a thread, I don't have a computer right now and I don't think I can search on tapatalk.
Thanks in advance.
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The usual - brightness as low as you can stand, radios not in use turned off, screen timeout 15 seconds, 200-1400 conservative governor in SetCPU.
Search AutoKiller in the market -- choose "optimal" profile, so far has given me an extra two hours today over what I got yesterday.
5h of heavy use is good already.
You can tweak your idle batt life, 2g-only, undervolted kernel, avoiding power hungry rom.
Idle battery life is just amazing with stock... just test it over night, 6hrs get 2/3% for me.
I can get 30hrs with 4hrs with screen on, the screen is the key here, i can get 5hrs with 4hrs with screen on too. ;o)
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Idle battery life is just amazing with stock... just test it over night, 6hrs get 2/3% for me.
I can get 30hrs with 4hrs with screen on, the screen is the key here, i can get 5hrs with 4hrs with screen on too. ;o)
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Try a kernel that is made to optimise batt life with display active, like the XTEUV92 Trinity kernel.
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Try a kernel that is made to optimise batt life with display active, like the XTEUV92 Trinity kernel.
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I tried almost every single combination of rom + kernel. And for me, pure stock has the best battery life, by far.
But i'm getting bored and should flash something... )
Ps: afaik trinity doesnt work with stock. Did it change?
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I tried almost every single combination of rom + kernel. And for me, pure stock has the best battery life, by far.
But i'm getting bored and should flash something... )
Ps: afaik trinity doesnt work with stock. Did it change?
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See my signature, stock (rooted and removed soom Google apps) with Trinity, works together just fine
How would you define "heavy" usage?
Also, what does your "battery use" stats say? (Settings - About Phone - Battery Use)
5 hours of truly heavy usage (online gaming, for instance) is actually to be expected.
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See my signature, stock (rooted and removed soom Google apps) with Trinity, works together just fine
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i'm using the same stock 2.3.4 as your signature and tried the morfic kernel from yours, but got no lock at all, freezes and reboots...
that's a little strange for me, first time i see it in my device... =o\\
johnbibbs said:
What do you guys do to maximize your battery life? I just can't seem to get decent life. Average is probably 5 hours with heavy usage.
Any recommendations?
Sorry if there is already a thread, I don't have a computer right now and I don't think I can search on tapatalk.
Thanks in advance.
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You can create a custom prl setting. Turn wifi to never sleep when you're at home... Have the prl to auto *CDMA or GSM* Which ever your network is on. (This goes to all Nexus S. users). So you have wifi on with a signal and 3g off. The phone stays in 2g for calls and uses wifi for data. Turn off google location services while your at home, turn off roaming, turn all of that off. I get about 13 hours of battery life with heavy usage. People think wifi drains your battery but it doesn't if you have mobile data turned off. When you have 3g turned on it's constantly searching for a better connection. If you have wifi on and a strong connection it isn't constantly polling.
are there any charging habits that would help prolong battery life? I usually just charge my phone every night cause, if I remember correctly, these batteries don't have a memory or anything. anyone know if that is the smartest thing to do?
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are there any charging habits that would help prolong battery life? I usually just charge my phone every night cause, if I remember correctly, these batteries don't have a memory or anything. anyone know if that is the smartest thing to do?
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I hope you don't mean overnight. I don't know if phones have auto-cutoff feature (a la laptops), but it's safer just not to charge overnight.
I personally use an extension that has a timer built-in. Nifty. Set the timer, plug the phone in, it will automatically start and stop the charging at the predetermined times. I usually time the charging to end right before I wake up, so the battery doesn't stay fully charged for too long. I heard batteries corrode faster when they're fully charged.
When my battery life starts getting shorter than usual, I let them drain until the phone turns off automatically (well I actually try not to get to that point, but seldom succeeded ), and as soon as possible charge it until full.
Usually the battery holds longer then. It has something to do with teaching the battery about the true empty and true full.. or something.....
AFAIK. CMIIW.
doesn't the nexus s have a built in cut-off feature so it will only charge to 95% though? I figure that would take care of the full charge issue. i'm also not sure if lithium ion batteries have a memory, but you could always reset the battery stats if you're on root to compensate for the whole draining and fully charging thing.
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doesn't the nexus s have a built in cut-off feature so it will only charge to 95% though? I figure that would take care of the full charge issue. i'm also not sure if lithium ion batteries have a memory, but you could always reset the battery stats if you're on root to compensate for the whole draining and fully charging thing.
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Battery stats! That's the word I was looking for No I wasn't referring to the memory effect
I don't know what would happen when the cut-off feature kicks up. My Nexus S still shows a charging icon even a while after full, so I don't wanna risk it.
The best way is by touching the charger unit after a while and see if it's warm/hot. If it is, it's still charging. But you gotta give it time to cool down first (after it's finished charging) Haven't gotten around to it, though. Always forgot to check the charger
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Battery stats! That's the word I was looking for No I wasn't referring to the memory effect
I don't know what would happen when the cut-off feature kicks up. My Nexus S still shows a charging icon even a while after full, so I don't wanna risk it.
The best way is by touching the charger unit after a while and see if it's warm/hot. If it is, it's still charging. But you gotta give it time to cool down first (after it's finished charging) Haven't gotten around to it, though. Always forgot to check the charger
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lol, I know that my phone for sure won't charge to 100% from watching it, so even after a night of charging it's still at 95%. I've read a few explanations on this forum about the whole not fully charging thing too, so i'm pretty sure that it's like that on purpose.
I know I've asked this Q before but can't find the answer and its driving me mad. Google searches turn up the obvious "go into settings>applications>development >screen will never sleep while charging" - The problem is my screen DOES sleep while charging. I had it working for a while but have recently returned to bone stock through a fxz and the screen will NOT stay on while plugged into any type of charge ie; wall wort, computer, car charger etc. Its really a nuisance because I like to have the screen on while driving for easy access to my music widget. Any ideas?
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I know I've asked this Q before but can't find the answer and its driving me mad. Google searches turn up the obvious "go into settings>applications>development >screen will never sleep while charging" - The problem is my screen DOES sleep while charging. I had it working for a while but have recently returned to bone stock through a fxz and the screen will NOT stay on while plugged into any type of charge ie; wall wort, computer, car charger etc. Its really a nuisance because I like to have the screen on while driving for easy access to my music widget. Any ideas?
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Stupid question, perhaps, but do you have your screen timeout set to anything other than "never"?
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Stupid question, perhaps, but do you have your screen timeout set to anything other than "never"?
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Yes I do. Is that the only way "stay awake" is supposed to work? Seems a bit redundant. I know for whatever reason the phone was behaving differently before I wiped it. I've always set it for a 2 minute time out but if it was plugged in it would stay awake.
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Yes I do. Is that the only way "stay awake" is supposed to work? Seems a bit redundant. I know for whatever reason the phone was behaving differently before I wiped it. I've always set it for a 2 minute time out but if it was plugged in it would stay awake.
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Not sure, I always set to "never" timeout because I like the option to put the phone to sleep via power button and at my discretion... still won't stay awake with the timeout settings while charging?
I wiped car dock data, rebooted several times, tried plugging in then ticking off the box, unplugging the ticking off the box... no screen time out, etc. Its not working like it should. I know I had this problem months ago and can't remember what remedied it. Lots of ROMs and tweaks in-between then and now. But bone stock it never worked out of the box if I remember and its not working now that I'm back to stock. Weird. I'm thinking of giving "better battery stats" app a try. This has to have something to do with wakelocks. Any other ideas?
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I wiped car dock data, rebooted several times, tried plugging in then ticking off the box, unplugging the ticking off the box... no screen time out, etc. Its not working like it should. I know I had this problem months ago and can't remember what remedied it. Lots of ROMs and tweaks in-between then and now. But bone stock it never worked out of the box if I remember and its not working now that I'm back to stock. Weird. I'm thinking of giving "better battery stats" app a try. This has to have something to do with wakelocks. Any other ideas?
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Try Better Battery Stats (I've used that app) or try Watchdog Task Manager to check for wake locks.
[Light bulb goes ON over head] Here's an idea. Maybe there is no official "display" stays on while charging. Maybe the developer setting is to keep the screen/CPU running even with the display off. I've done as you do and set the "display" to never time out. Also I've ticked the box to have the "screen" stay on while charging. It might be my imagination but the display appears to jump to life when turning it on via the power button now while on the charger. There is no delay whatsoever. Does that make sense? Either way, I'm gonna run it like this for a while and test that idea. I usually use the power button to turn off the display anyway instead of letting it time out. I just always liked that auto-off in case i forget to turn it off before pocketing it. Thoughts?
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[Light bulb goes ON over head] Here's an idea. Maybe there is no official "display" stays on while charging. Maybe the developer setting is to keep the screen/CPU running even with the display off. I've done as you do and set the "display" to never time out. Also I've ticked the box to have the "screen" stay on while charging. It might be my imagination but the display appears to jump to life when turning it on via the power button now while on the charger. There is no delay whatsoever. Does that make sense? Either way, I'm gonna run it like this for a while and test that idea. I usually use the power button to turn off the display anyway instead of letting it time out. I just always liked that auto-off in case i forget to turn it off before pocketing it. Thoughts?
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Let me experiment on my phone and see if I see the same things you are. I'll let you know what I find out...
The ONLY way to do what you want is to either do as you did and do a "never" time out, or to go to:
Settings --> Application settings --> Development, then check the Stay awake option.
YOU MUST BE PLUGGED INTO A CHARGER FOR THE ABOVE SETTING TO WORK!!!
I will be 100% honest here, and that I have the HD dock sitting on my desk and when I connect it to the charger on the doc, it NEVER turns the screen off, and I do not have the Stay awake checked in the development menu. I also have my timeout set to 1 min.
Then theres that whole "in pocket detection" thing going on lol. I finally have that working with the current settings. Woohoo! So that means no worry that the display stays on if I somehow forget to use the power button to switch it off. I'm just fine tuning all the features of stock GB and now along comes ICS. Ha-ha.
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The ONLY way to do what you want is to either do as you did and do a "never" time out, or to go to:
Settings --> Application settings --> Development, then check the Stay awake option.
YOU MUST BE PLUGGED INTO A CHARGER FOR THE ABOVE SETTING TO WORK!!!
I will be 100% honest here, and that I have the HD dock sitting on my desk and when I connect it to the charger on the doc, it NEVER turns the screen off, and I do not have the Stay awake checked in the development menu. I also have my timeout set to 1 min.
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Achieving perfect powder management always seems a bit elusive for me be it mobile devices, laptops or even some desktops. Then, just when I have it fixed some newly installed app will come along and knock it all off its precarious axis. Here's hoping ICS has better management.
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Achieving perfect powder management always seems a bit elusive for me be it mobile devices, laptops or even some desktops. Then, just when I have it fixed some newly installed app will come along and knock it all off its precarious axis. Here's hoping ICS has better management.
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I get 48 hours on a charge with HEAVY use, and tethering since I am at client sites alot, and that means usually no internet for me, unless I wifi tether.
I can go 36 hours and be at 25%, and at 44 hours I am at about 10%. I charge my phone every night if I can, but when I cant, I can squeeze 46-50 hours out, with out changing a thing. I don't play games, nor do I allow adds, have all adds blocked on my phone with a hack to the /etc/hosts file. The ads block is in most of the custom roms in the dev section too.
I am bone stock with root right now, while I work on a few things, so that might change things a little.
right now I am at 18 hours and 40 min. on battery and I am at 85%
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I get 48 hours on a charge with HEAVY use, and tethering since I am at client sites alot, and that means usually no internet for me, unless I wifi tether.
I can go 36 hours and be at 25%, and at 44 hours I am at about 10%. I charge my phone every night if I can, but when I cant, I can squeeze 46-50 hours out, with out changing a thing. I don't play games, nor do I allow adds, have all adds blocked on my phone with a hack to the /etc/hosts file. The ads block is in most of the custom roms in the dev section too.
I am bone stock with root right now, while I work on a few things, so that might change things a little.
right now I am at 18 hours and 40 min. on battery and I am at 85%
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thats sounds like me. I charge every night, but it could go longer. I plug it in to my computer so much with development that it always stays high
Do you guys use auto brightness? What battery mode are you using?
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Do you guys use auto brightness? What battery mode are you using?
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Yes automatic brightness, 1 min. screen timeout, my battery is in performance mode.
I am also not overclocked. I have ALL of e-mail checks, and calendar syncs always on and they check about every 5 min, even when on 3g/4g.
Now I will say that if you are in an area that switched between 3g and 4g a lot, that will KILL you battery fast. There is a customer that I go to often and when I am at their building my phone switches between 3g and 4g when I move from office to office, and go to the restroom, and my battery barely lasts all day.
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Yes automatic brightness, 1 min. screen timeout, my battery is in performance mode.
I am also not overclocked. I have ALL of e-mail checks, and calendar syncs always on and they check about every 5 min, even when on 3g/4g.
Now I will say that if you are in an area that switched between 3g and 4g a lot, that will KILL you battery fast. There is a customer that I go to often and when I am at their building my phone switches between 3g and 4g when I move from office to office, and go to the restroom, and my battery barely lasts all day.
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same if you are somewhere with a poor wifi signal that keeps witching on and off
Here in the Florida Boonies we go from 4G to Edge and back over and over again all day...but still, I use my phone moderately heavily, am overclocked to 1200, with everything syncing over whatever data is available and with wifi turned on all day, and I usually only go down around 40% over an 8-9 hour period. Compared to my last phone (Samsung Focus, which had decent battery life elsewhere) that's amazing. I literally had to plug that one in at my desk to make it to lunch down here.
As a matter of fact, while I've been typing this message, I've gone from 4G to Edge, and now it's back on 4G. Crazy system down here.
I've mentioned before that I run a hotel...well the other day, we had an AT&T engineer check in, and I asked her about it. She pulled out her Blackberry and said "I have 5 bars. Get a Blackberry." She wasn't thrilled when I told her that my backup is a Bold 9700, and I have the same problems on it. She said she'd look into it, though, so maybe there's hope.
Seeing how this thread has kinda evolved into a battery/connection topic; do you guys enable background data? I do and I get about 10-12 hours of hard use. I'm listening to music, on these boards, browsing the web, making a few calls, texting etc.
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Oh yeah. I literally live where I work, so I have all of my data turned on...I'm never far from a charger. Like I said, I get through the entire day without charging. I call, text, and email constantly. I use it as a music player in my office. It takes voice memos. I take pictures constantly. I'm always reading boards or books in my downtime, etc. Pretty much everything I used to lug a laptop for, I use my phone for now.
I need a tablet. Waiting to hear about the specs for the Asus tablet that's rumored to be one of the upcoming Nexus devices, or their MeMo, assuming that they're different devices at all.
I reported this to moto a long time ago the select is not doing anything when you check the box.
I fixed mine by installing power widget and doing the toggle to stay awake with it then uninstalling it.
Worked like a champ
This is a little bit of a boast, I guess you could say... but also educational in a way.
This is my most recent battery life. I found that when I posted my screenshots, people think they are faked in some way. (Posted it here and other GS3 forums) They are not. I am using the stock battery my phone came with. NOT an extended battery. And you can see from the battery graph that the phone was not charged. I guess this is to show that you can use your phone heavily, and still get amazing battery life.
I am using the stock jellybean leak. Not rooted or unlocked.
This is everything I have done to get good battery life.
-I turned the LED touch lights off (I don't like them, they're so bright)
-I have all vibrations off. My phone does not ever vibrate.
-I have power save on.
-I have S-Voice "wake command" off.
-I have motion control disabled.
-I am almost always on wifi (work & home)
-When I am on wifi, I turn mobile data off.
-When I am going to bed, I put my phone in airplane mode.
-I rely heavily on the task manager, I clear my open windows and under the "RAM" tab I clear memory. Probably once an hour.
-I have my sync OFF. I check my email manually.
-Auto brightness.
-I never partially charge. I let my battery go all the way down to 1% then I charge it to 100%. Always.
-Always have a dark background, if possible.
Thats everything. Mind you, I didn't make or receive any phone calls on this cycle. But I did use my phone, as you can see I didn't just let it sit around. Device idle was like 3%?
Anyone else a "hypermiler" like me? I don't get this much screen time every time, it ranges from 5-7. I've gotten more than this and I've gotten less.
Hope this can help even if it's only a little.
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-I rely heavily on the task manager, I clear my open windows and under the "RAM" tab I clear memory. Probably once an hour.
-Auto brightness.
-I never partially charge. I let my battery go all the way down to 1% then I charge it to 100%. Always.
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-Clearing the ram too much actually drains the battery more because certain apps will have to auto start again every time you clear memory
-Keeping it at around 0-30% all the time should save you more.(I can still see my screen during the day at 30%)
-That doesn't do anything.
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-When I am going to bed, I put my phone in airplane mode.
-I rely heavily on the task manager, I clear my open windows and under the "RAM" tab I clear memory. Probably once an hour.
-Auto brightness.
-I never partially charge. I let my battery go all the way down to 1% then I charge it to 100%. Always.
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-Are there no A/C outlets in your bedroom?
-What the previous guy said, this is a stupid thing to do. Java was designed around efficient use of resources, and restarting running apps (which would happen, unless you have them removed entirely) would use more processing power than you had saved by not having the tasks running in the first place.
-Using Auto is causing the system to periodically poll the light sensor, draining more battery than used otherwise.
-This is how you kill Li-Ion batteries (one way, at least). The whole spiel about discharging fully, THEN charging fully or the battery will have some sort of "memory" of capacity less than actual capacity is how Ni-Cad rechargables work, not Li-Ions. Li-Ion batteries are the opposite. For superior life, keep them topped up as much as possible. FYI
I hope THIS helped, more than a little.
There are plenty of outlets in my room. Lol I just don't need to use them that often as you can see also I hate getting calls and messages in the middle of the night but I use my phone as an alarm sometimes so airplane mode just seems convenient.
This is just what I do. I mean, some of the things I do may not help at all. But this is what I do with Android phones and I've always gotten really good battery life. I've always, always gone down to 1% then charged up to 100% and I've never had a battery go bad on me. Then again I only ever keep a phone for 1 year. I do know that these batteries don't have the memory problem, I just can't bring myself to not fully discharge or charge. I have mild OCD, for real. Little things like that brother me
I'll play with backlighting to see what that does for me.
I've gotta be doing something right. Idk about the task manager, I've just always liked not having programs running if I don't need them to be. I know they arent "running" but it just gives me peace of mind, I guess.
Thanks for the recommendations I will try them.
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There are plenty of outlets in my room. Lol I just don't need to use them that often as you can see also I hate getting calls and messages in the middle of the night but I use my phone as an alarm sometimes so airplane mode just seems convenient.
This is just what I do. I mean, some of the things I do may not help at all. But this is what I do with Android phones and I've always gotten really good battery life. I've always, always gone down to 1% then charged up to 100% and I've never had a battery go bad on me. Then again I only ever keep a phone for 1 year.
I'll play with backlighting to see what that does for me.
I've gotta be doing something right. Idk about the task manager, I've just always liked not having programs running if I don't need them to be. I know they arent "running" but it just gives me peace of mind, I guess.
Thanks for the recommendations I will try them.
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You getting really good battery life =/= you getting the best battery life possible.
I have pushed ~2 days of battery life without charging many times on my GS3 (with all the bells and whistles running, just mobile data turned off when i'm not commuting), i just don't have a reliable measurement because:
1. I'm flashing mods/roms/kernels/whatever multiple times per week, and
2. I usually charge my phone when it's convenient, which is fairly often.
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You getting really good battery life =/= you getting the best battery life possible.
I have pushed ~2 days of battery life without charging many times on my GS3 (with all the bells and whistles running, just mobile data turned off when i'm not commuting), i just don't have a reliable measurement because:
1. I'm flashing mods/roms/kernels/whatever multiple times per week, and
2. I usually charge my phone when it's convenient, which is fairly often.
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I stopped flashing because of my OCD. I mean, I'm not crazy but it causes perfection issues and all the ROMs I was flashing had glitches here and there and Idk if you've known anyone with OCD but with the perfection issue, those glitches were all I could think about. So there went flashing. Lol.
Also comes into play with the charging thing. You seem knowledgeable in what you said but even though you said keeping it topped up is best, in my mind, that's destroying my battery. Lol. I really do appreciate your info though.
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my OCD
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I'm glad you said it, so that I didn't have to. :silly:
I read your post and the first thing that came to mind was, "there is medication for that, you know.":laugh:
Here's my .02. My battery never lasts that long. Not even close. I'd feel disappointed if it did. I bought my gsiii with the intent of gobbling up unlimited data and using the oc'd processor to run apps till the phone is so hot I have to set it down. I've burned up almost 6gigs of data since the 7th. I get around 4 hours of screen on time most generally. I also throw it on a charger whenever I have the chance. My battery rarely dips below 50%. Like others have said, full discharge cycles are for ni-cad batteries. Li-ion doesn't benefit. Good battery life for me is the lg flip phone we have on a diff line that lasts a couple weeks.
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I stopped flashing because of my OCD. I mean, I'm not crazy but it causes perfection issues and all the ROMs I was flashing had glitches here and there and Idk if you've known anyone with OCD but with the perfection issue, those glitches were all I could think about. So there went flashing. Lol.
Also comes into play with the charging thing. You seem knowledgeable in what you said but even though you said keeping it topped up is best, in my mind, that's destroying my battery. Lol. I really do appreciate your info though.
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Okay, okay, as long as you admit it... I'll stop being a snarky jerk. I'm totally the same way though. Perfectionist to the core.
It's a very bad idea to let the battery go down to 1% regularly, lithium batteries should be charged more often for better life and more cycles
Sorry but I still just don't believe 7 hours of screen on time. 4 is above average even amazing screen on time for this phone and stock battery. I suppose there is the possibility of using 0 percent brightness, or even lux brightness or something similar to get the brightness even lower.
You said you use auto brightness, I'm sorry I just don't buy it.
People with the extended batteries are getting 7 hours of screen on time not stock batteries.
7 hours of screen on time is literally double almost every other phone on the market with stock batteries. I really fail to see how having minimum usage and a high performing rom will get you double screen on time.
Edit: with that said, in my current situation I will never have wifi access plus I tether a lot so I really have yet to personally see screen on time since I rooted. Before root and stock I got about 3.5 of screen on time.
Not trying to be a douche or anything just very curious about how 7 hours comes about.
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Sorry but I still just don't believe 7 hours of screen on time. 4 is above average even amazing screen on time for this phone and stock battery. I suppose there is the possibility of using 0 percent brightness, or even lux brightness or something similar to get the brightness even lower.
You said you use auto brightness, I'm sorry I just don't buy it.
People with the extended batteries are getting 7 hours of screen on time not stock batteries.
7 hours of screen on time is literally double almost every other phone on the market with stock batteries. I really fail to see how having minimum usage and a high performing rom will get you double screen on time.
Edit: with that said, in my current situation I will never have wifi access plus I tether a lot so I really have yet to personally see screen on time since I rooted. Before root and stock I got about 3.5 of screen on time.
Not trying to be a douche or anything just very curious about how 7 hours comes about.
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you dont get 7 hours because you are not doing what op did for perfection, and you just like other "4 hour" guys in this thread. I can confirm 7 hours usage is totally possible and what left can support one day idle time when you turn off data etc. Iusually dont do that because I like my phone work at full functionality, but I also like tinkering around to keep maximum use of juice, by eliminating wake locks and autostart.
killing background helps sometimes because some stupid apps keeping using cpu after backgrounded. op go and get a iphone, its perfect for OCD since it can get zero unwanted background activity, amazing idle time and stable usage with relatively easier configuration and tweaking.
1% is NO. 1 battery killer, heat is NO. 2, top up at 100% is NO. 3. Li based battery is at best 40%. but plaese its just a phone, charge and use anytime you want. phone outdated way earlier than battery.
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you dont get 7 hours because you are not doing what op did for perfection, and you just like other "4 hour" guys in this thread. I can confirm 7 hours usage is totally possible and what left can support one day idle time when you turn off data etc. Iusually dont do that because I like my phone work at full functionality, but I also like tinkering around to keep maximum use of juice, by eliminating wake locks and autostart.
killing background helps sometimes because some stupid apps keeping using cpu after backgrounded. op go and get a iphone, its perfect for OCD since it can get zero unwanted background activity, amazing idle time and stable usage with relatively easier configuration and tweaking.
1% is NO. 1 battery killer, heat is NO. 2, top up at 100% is NO. 3. Li based battery is at best 40%. but plaese its just a phone, charge and use anytime you want. phone outdated way earlier than battery.
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While I understand what you're saying I think you misread my post. I was strickly referring to the screen on time which 7 hours of screen on time with stock battery is inconceivable. 4 is about the most you would normally see.
7 hours of USAGE is common.
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Well I mean. You don't have to believe me. I mean I have nothing to offer but my word. I do use auto brightness. But because of the suggestion I'll probably set it to manual and see what that does.
I got 7 hours screen on time with the stock battery. The battery says "3.8 v li-ion battery"
I've gotten more than this is the past but I've also gotten less.
Like I said you don't have to believe me but... I'm using the stock battery.
And to the poster who mentioned to get an iPhone - I have one for my business line
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battery statistics are poor statistics in general. there are too many variables. luckily we have removeable batteries if we need mroe juice.
heres some postings to add to the mix
put my phone through the paces with fantasy football.
held up pretty well. stock battery mind you. on pace for nearly 8 hrs of on screen time. This isnt with typical use though... With typical use I can get 20hrs and 5-6 hrs of screen time. I thought anywhere from 4-6 hours of on screen time was what people were suppposed to be getting.
Yeah we all use our phone differently. I rarely actually talk on the phone with my GS3 because I use my iPhone for that. But everything else I do on my GS3, reading news, some browsing, xda.
I just thought I'd share what I do for people that may want to get better battery life.
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While I understand what you're saying I think you misread my post. I was strickly referring to the screen on time which 7 hours of screen on time with stock battery is inconceivable. 4 is about the most you would normally see.
7 hours of USAGE is common.
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Then I shouldn't use the word "usage". I meant 7 hours screen on time. Sometimes I got 8 or more, but only use it continuously after charging, no idle time.
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josh995 said:
Yeah we all use our phone differently. I rarely actually talk on the phone with my GS3 because I use my iPhone for that. But everything else I do on my GS3, reading news, some browsing, xda.
I just thought I'd share what I do for people that may want to get better battery life.
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Yet that involves turning off data. IMO the smartphone should always stay online. In my experience, iPhone can get constant -4 ~ -5ma juice flow during idle even with data (2G) and all the push notifications on, which are the only things I want for stay online. I feel its hard to get similar result on my GS3 though.
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Yet that involves turning off data. IMO the smartphone should always stay online. In my experience, iPhone can get constant -4 ~ -5ma juice flow during idle even with data (2G) and all the push notifications on, which are the only things I want for stay online. I feel its hard to get similar result on my GS3 though.
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I'm always online, whether it's wi-fi or 4G. Luckily I have wi-fi at home and at work.
Like, literally as I'm walking out the door of my house, I turn on my mobile data, and when I get to work I turn it off. When I'm leaving work I turn mobile data back on and when I get home I turn it off.
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I'm always online, whether it's wi-fi or 4G. Luckily I have wi-fi at home and at work.
Like, literally as I'm walking out the door of my house, I turn on my mobile data, and when I get to work I turn it off. When I'm leaving work I turn mobile data back on and when I get home I turn it off.
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what you did is pointless. If you leave data on, data is not connected when wifi is connected, and it will connect automatically when no wifi connection.
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what you did is pointless. If you leave data on, data is not connected when wifi is connected, and it will connect automatically when no wifi connection.
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It's not pointless to me. As I said a few posts before... I have OCD, obsessive compulsive disorder. Things like this affect me. I know that being connected to Wi-Fi that data is not connected, but in my brain, it's as if something is telling me that because my data toggle is on, it's running.
I really can't help it.
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