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Well looks like im going to AT&t

i have the epic 4g right now but i logged into yahoo this morning and saw this..
Motorola's 4G phone for AT&T
AT&T claims that the Motorola Atrix 4G, an Android 2.2 phone that features a 1GHz dual-core processor (just like LG's recently announced Optimus 2X), will be the world's most powerful phone. Even better, it will run on the network’s fast HSPA+ network. The Atrix has a high-resolution HD display and includes a revolutionary, super-thin laptop dock for which ATRIX 4G is the "engine," as well as an HD media dock that will "enable a revolutionary browsing, application and media experience." It will be available in the first quarter of 2011.
it was on yahoo's homepage this morning :0

At&t data plans suck.

vetvito said:
At&t data plans suck.
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I'm on AT&T and don't have data. I always buy my phones unlocked (currently NS. I Went through 6 different phones in 2010). I really don't see the point if the phone has WiFi capability. I mean, there is usually WiFi everywhere I go, plus you have the choice of any GSM capable phone there is.

That has to the the worst excuse ever to switch to AT&T. You could either wait a couple months for more dual-core phones to come out (that aren't made by Motorola--yuck) or you could switch to a good carrier like T-Mobile and get the best phones all the time.

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I'm on AT&T and don't have data. I always buy my phones unlocked (currently NS. I Went through 6 different phones in 2010). I really don't see the point if the phone has WiFi capability. I mean, there is usually WiFi everywhere I go, plus you have the choice of any GSM capable phone there is.
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I'm rarely around wifi. Definitely don't have it when driving around trying to get GPS directions.
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Jumped from Nexus One to Thunderbolt

So what do you think, was this worth it. I think so.
This is what I weighed when I made my decision to switch: (impulsively maybe)
(1) Storage
Nexus One - 512mb (half taken up by OS), I provided a 16gb MicroSD (needing more, debated a 32GB for the past 4 months)
TB - 8gb, Comes with a 32gb MicroSD
(2) Network >
Nexus One - T-Mobile
TB - Verizon
(3) Monthly Bill >
Tmobile - Went up $10 three months ago to $130month
Verizon - 99.95 month
(4) Network Features and Coverage >
Tmobile - Normally getting EDGE Network, Spotty 3g, No 4G, Voice coverage not really that good either
Verizon - Strong 3G spotty 4G, Best voice coverage hands down of any provider
(5) Customer Service >
T-Mobile - Arab guy practically needed a translator to talk to me (kept asking me to repeat my self because he didn't understand)
Verizon - Cute sounding southern bell answered the phone and took care of my question fast and directly, no putting on hold to ask some one else and definitely didn't need a translator.
(9) Processors
Nexus One - 1ghz Snapdragon
Thunderbolt - 1ghz Scorpion
Pretty much a tie here I think. But from I could see at the Verizon Store and My current N1 using quadrant Thunderbolt (1870) slapped my N1 (1175) and then showed it who daddy was. Sorry N1 lost again.
(10) Phone Size (This was my biggest concern, pun intended)
Nexus One - Attractively big enough for any feature I want (Perfect size for a smart phone IMO)
Thunderbolt - A little on the big side with the screen being nearly .5 inches bigger as well the phone size being about the same width and height wise.
(11) Dev Support
Nexus One will probably devour any phone in the category
Thunderbolt should pick up the pace as it matures
(12) OS (Gingerbread AOSP Vs. Froyo Sense)
Nexus One - Gingerbread AOSP Stock or Tons of different Custom Roms, Google Supported of course (Reason for the N1 Love). Nice, clean and absolutely no BLOAT
Thunderbolt - Froyo with Sense. Honestly I love sense. Coming from and AOSP build and I couldnt be happier. I love the added widgets, the layout of sense is phenomenal, recent apps in the pull down is awesome. It just looks great. TONS OF BLOAT WARE though.
(13) Feature Set
Nexus One - APPS to SD (A must have for this phone), Free WIFI Tethering, Standard type Android settings menus, Trackball notifications (handier than I would have ever thought), Compatible with nearly any app that hits the market, call blocking support via Cyanogen MOD
Thunderbolt - APPS to SD (not even needed), WIFI Tethering with Paid subscription to VZ (downer, but possibly free with ROOT), Settings menus are not standardized with AOSP Android Releases making them a new learning curve
(14) Accessories
Nexus One - Packed Full of what ever you need, but need to find it on Ebay since most places are no longer carrying accessories for the phone.
Thunderbolt - Already a flooded market of accessories (major plus)
(15) Battery Life
Nexus One and Thunderbolt are about the same. N1's never got that great of battery life either. After my battery leveled off on my Thunderbolt, it has been pretty comparable.
So far this is the homework I have done to help with my decision. The monthly cost was not really a deal maker or a breaker for me since I was allready comfortable with it. The fact that T Mobile sold off to ATT is a little disheartening to me and leaves me anxious as to what I can expect from the most notorious of all the major carriers. That is what finally pushed me over the EDGE and in to the LiTE.

Yeah...the AT&T purchase made me switch from T-Mobile too..... but where do you get EDGE,let alone 3G!??!!? I always get GPRS with T-Mobile(Haven't canceled YET,trying a data only/VOIP plan on VZW).

I had a G2 and a Nexus one before coming over to Verizon. The phone is nice and dev is moving along considering the phone has only been out for a week. At least we know there will be a working sense Rom, cm7, and hopefully a miui build. To me theses were the bug three I'm worried about.
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Actually Verizon has given TBolt users free mobile hotspot until May 15th.

I miss my multicolor LED trackball. More phones should have one.

jamesfrom818 said:
I miss my multicolor LED trackball. More phones should have one.
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Agreed... the notification was sick, but other than that I love the TB.
Regarding the vote... I just switched from the N1 last weekend, and it's already up for sale... http://bit.ly/fucAf9
That's how happy I am with this device!

Ddgarcia: miui is the one im waiting for. And n_i_x from the dinc forums who did all the miui ports has a bolt, so it shouldnt be long
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Only time I had called customer service and had someone hard to understand was when it was billing (collections cause I forgot to pay my bill) other than that almost always some chipper sounding girl or some guy sounding extra chill (read stoner)
And sucks you live somewhere with such spotty service, I live in Houston and had good 4G service. I switched cause I started having data freezes and AT&T buying them sold me.
Also what kinda plan did you have costing that much? I had 3 lines and it was only 160/mo.

I'm on flexpay 1400 mins family. It was $120 and without notice went to $130.
I get hsdpa if in Milwaukee. But if I leave to a smaller town I get nothing. Major problem for me when traveling.
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Souviets said:
Actually Verizon has given TBolt users free mobile hotspot until May 15th.
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Then they stab you with there tethering subscription.
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I actually just dropped Tmobile for Verizon and the bolt. I did it for both the merger and because I wanted to get in on Verizon's Blistering fast LTE network before they went to tiered data. I wanted a grandfathered Unlimited plan.
Well that and the fact that I couldn't any service at all at my college, and crappy edge at home.

I just jumped from a N1 on ATT to the Tbolt. The only thing I miss is CM7 which we should get on the Tbolt soon enough. I don't miss ATT's spotty coverage. I find the Tbolt to be significantly more snappy than the nexus since I started running the new virus rom. The LTE speed and coverage in the DC area also blows away the N1 on ATT.

If you read consumer reports, Verizon has the best coverage, hands down across the country.
I finally decided to stop defending T-mobile and the spotty coverage. I paid T-mobile 79.99 per month for service and could only use what I paid for when at work.
Now I will pay Verizon 76.00 per month (including insurance). I get less minutes but at least I can use the minutes I have when I need to. Also with the strength of the Verizon LTE coverage in Atlanta, I should be able to make VOIP calls with Sipdroid, and Google Voice, and have people be able to hear me.
I finally decided, why pay for a service I can only use under certain circumstances.....

Switching from T-Mobile today. Going to miss my Nexus one. I have very fast HSPA+ service where I live. (suburb of Boston) The buy out just freaked me out. I own 4 phones, G1, BB9700, MyTouch 4G and the Nexus One and they will all become paper weights. That is why I am pissed off. I paid full price for every phone and you can be sure AT&T will not give me 4 devices to make up for the ones I bought. I figured I would jump on the unlimited data plan while I can and enjoy that blazing speed. I have the Verizon LTE working in my area. I am very excited about my new phone. Going to the local Verizon store in my town and buy me some Thunderbolt action. Then it's back home to root it. I was a die hard T-Mobile customer who enjoyed their Network and their customer service has always been nothing but first class to me. I'm hoping Verizon will be a great experience for me. Thinking about a future with AT&T and their lousy data capped plans doesn't sit well with me. I absolutely loved my Nexus One on T-Mobile. I changed Roms like underwear and will miss that. T-Mobile really let their customers down IMO. It was just a couple of weeks ago when I heard someone from T-Mobile say "T-Mobile USA is NOT for sale".

Yeah when you look at ATT's data plans they cap you at 5gb, that will easily be eaten up by slacker radio, pandora and soon netflix or streaming from your home computer.

T-Mobile us

I had T-Mobile for over six years and threw the years service had gotten bad. All the big company's offer 4g lte the real 4g and we got hspa. Fake 4g. It feels like 3g at best. T-Mobile starting to charge for tethering and raised the price on plans. I started to think me and my Verizon friend pay almost the same a month for unlimited plans. I try my best to defend T-Mobile but I have nothing to brag about prices as high as the other companies which was the reason I been here so long . We don't get nearly as many good android phones as other. T-Mobile put out almost the same phones two months after they release a new phone example. I bought a Samsung vibrant then they come out with a galaxy s. Same phone but that had a Ffc . I buy the sensation then they conme out with the amaze. Same Damn phone with a different camera. Recently I saw a phone called the blaze, which is just the galaxy s 2 with a smaller screen. Just wondering if anyone else is thinking about leaving T-Mobile . Why we pay extra for 4g when we are not getting 4g. T-Mobile should market it as 3.5g with 4g speed at times. Im surprised no one sued them yet.
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bonebeatz1234 said:
I had T-Mobile for over six years and threw the years service had gotten bad. All the big company's offer 4g lte the real 4g and we got hspa. Fake 4g. It feels like 3g at best. T-Mobile starting to charge for tethering and raised the price on plans. I started to think me and my Verizon friend pay almost the same a month for unlimited plans. I try my best to defend T-Mobile but I have nothing to brag about prices as high as the other companies which was the reason I been here so long . We don't get nearly as many good android phones as other. T-Mobile put out almost the same phones two months after they release a new phone example. I bought a Samsung vibrant then they come out with a galaxy s. Same phone but that had a Ffc . I buy the sensation then they conme out with the amaze. Same Damn phone with a different camera. Recently I saw a phone called the blaze, which is just the galaxy s 2 with a smaller screen. Just wondering if anyone else is thinking about leaving T-Mobile . Why we pay extra for 4g when we are not getting 4g. T-Mobile should market it as 3.5g with 4g speed at times. Im surprised no one sued them yet.
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That is because they can't sue. Nothing guarentees you will received 4G speeds at all times.
I have considered leaving them as well but stay with them for a multitude of reasons.
1 - Affordable
2 - For what I use my phone for (Mostly Data and Texts not so much talk) they do fine
3 - If I go over 2GB because I stream DI.FM a lot they don't charge me $10 bucks when I go over.
4 - Verizon is too expensive for what I get, ATT isn't much better, and the service for Sprint here sucks

Definitely prefer tmob over the rip offs of the other carriers.

I get 12-13 Mb/s in Houston/Mission bend area.
Sounds pretty fast to me considering I can download 100mb in about 2 minutes.

I would be shocked if a member of XDA actually pays for tethering, regardless of carrier. If so they need their member card revoked for not reading any of the threads.
I have T-mo and I get 7-10mb downloads typically so I'm very happy with my speeds. I tether my G-tab and laptop regularly without issue or extra expense.
I rarely have dropped calls but they happen. I'm not sure any carrier is immune no matter what they say.
I do believe VZ will have better service, but since it's marginal for my situation I'm sticking with T-Mo.
Everyone's situation is different. A good example is I had no need for a FFC on the Vibrant. It's probably one of the best phones I've ever owned. Also great to learn rooting on since it's very hard to brick. Amazing phone. My brother didn't get the S2 because it's humongous so I may recommend the Blaze if it's the same.

Tmobile = GANGSTAAA
tmobile has cheap prices and the new phone thing is just bad luck on ur end lol
prices are awesome! i dont care i we dont have real 4G i care how fast it is if its faster than real 4g i dont care if its 2g but its fast lol

http://www.moneycrashers.com/how-i-got-out-of-my-t-mobile-contract-and-saved-200/. Hope this could help you, I'm trying to get out of my contract too. It makes no sense to pay for a service that is not being received.
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First, HSPA+ IS 4G. As much as LTE is 4G. If you're looking at HSPA, that is 3G. Second, I bet you could put a phone like the Amaze with its 42 mbps radio up against most anything else... if you were in the top market for both (HSPA+ 42 vs. LTE). Hey, my Sensation with a tiny 14.4 radio can out do LTE in the right location.
But hey, if Tmo is no longer the company for you, feel free to choose another carrier. That's the beauty of competition.

My last phone was an AT&T iPhone, so I know all about slow mobile internet. HSPA+ is at least slightly better in my area, but not by much. I'm on contract so I haven't really considered leaving, but maybe I'll think about it some more when commitment is up... In 2013.
No LTE does suck, but ah well.

Thinking about coming to the dark side..

What's up One X peeps? I am currently with Sprint on a Galaxy S2 in the Bristol, Tn area. Not so great of service and it is only 3g coverage for Sprint here so far(no plans in the future to add LTE here as far as I know...which is stupid because the race track is sponsored by Sprint and yet they have the worst service in the area duhuh..)...aaanyway, I am considering AT&T because I can pay a little extra and have 4g almost anywhere I go in the Tri Cities. So I am torn between the S3 and the One X. I have had Sense phones and touchwiz phones so I am really asking if anyone would care to share what they love about their One X and why they chose it over the S3. They are both remarkable but I am honestly leaning toward the One X because it is different in an appealing kind of way. I am just an average user other than rooting every phone I get my hands on. Browsing, texting, listening to music with headphones, email, etc. I had a Nexus S 4G before the S2 and a Hero before that. I have loved all of my phones but I kind of want something different right now. It also helps that the One X is on sale for $99 until September.

Funny you mentioned the race track, I'm right by Pocono and there is no lte either lol, oh wait there's no service at all by the SPRINT sponsored race track! Lolol. So glad I'm on att now
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DO IT. I was with Sprint for 5 years, and ever since they got the iPhone my 3G speeds were simply atrocious. How good is having unlimited data when you're pulling 0.5mbps down(on a good day)? And I'm in a network vision completed area! The difference really is night and day, and so damn worth it.
Also, battery life on the One X with LTE is better than my EVO 4G, EVO 3D and Galaxy Nexus ever had on 3G... TIMES TWO. I've left my phone unplugged for eight hours when going to bed, to wake up and find out it only used 2% battery. ON LTE.
There really is no contest here. It's even worth paying an ETF. I sold my (mint condition) Galaxy Nexus on ebay for $350 and paid my ETF with that.
Good luck!

I was a Sprint customer for a decade and finally got fed up with their data speeds. What's the point of unlimited data if you can't even use it? After a brief trial with Verizon, I made the move to AT&T in January and couldn't be happier. The HOX is an absolute beast of a phone and coupled with AT&T's blazing LTE speeds (and even their fast-enough HSPA+ when LTE isn't available) it's pretty much unstoppable. I had heard horror stories about AT&T's customer service before coming over here but my experience with them has been nothing but positive, and I have tested the patience of more than a handful of AT&T reps since making the move. They are friendly, somewhat knowledgeable, they do try to help as best they can, and best of all- they are incredibly easy to manipulate. Do it man, you'll be glad you did.

The main reason I left sprint was due to the horrible 3G speeds. You know how bad it feels to see buffering every 5 seconds on sprint watching youtube? The slowest speed I've got on ATT was 6mbps, thats more than enough for anything I need to do. Sprint, I was barely able to do 0.5mpbs with full bars, pathetic.
Good bye Sprint, You won't ever see me again. I'm paying $10 more a month, but its we'll worth it.

Yeah, I am thinking it is going to be worth the transfer. It doesnt seem too crazy to get root and unlock the bootloader from what I have read so I am sure I can manage. The only work arpund I will have to find is the storage but dropbox is offering the 25gb space still if I am not mistaken.

HareyCarey said:
Yeah, I am thinking it is going to be worth the transfer. It doesnt seem too crazy to get root and unlock the bootloader from what I have read so I am sure I can manage. The only work arpund I will have to find is the storage but dropbox is offering the 25gb space still if I am not mistaken.
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The latest firmware version (2.20) is not currently rootable, although its being worked on. No root also means no bootloader unlock. It seems that based on reports here, a lot of newly purchased One X's have 2.20 pre-installed. Maybe you can find a store with some older stock (1.73 and 1.85 are okay). But if you need root and unlocked BL right now, be aware when buying.
Also, I think AT&T stopped supporting the Dropbox promotion a while ago.

I'd recommend the secondary market vs buying a new one at this point.

Att gave me a $175 trade on my Epic 4G touch when I came from sprint a month ago...best decision I made in a long time.
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come on over! I honestly don't know how people put up with Sprint's data speeds. Also, I don't have any complaints with AT&T except I'm patiently waiting for LTE in Denver (HSPA+ is good enough, but why put up with "good enough" ). I've been with the company since their Cingular days and won't be going anywhere for a while (unless I jump over to Straight Talk to save some $$)

The S3 has better hardware specs but the HOX is better looking.
Basically it comes down to sd card/more ram/removable battery vs better screen and build quality.
IMO the S3 is ugly as sin, with a dated, pedestrian design (seriously, a physical home button?). But some people like it.
If you're a power user you may be better off with the S3 because of the better multitasking (more ram) and storage space. If looks and design matter to you, go with the HOX.
I came from iOS, so the sd card slot and battery were not really a big deal, while the design was.
AT&T's coverage is not as big as Verizon's but the data speeds are nice. Their customer service has always been pretty good on most issues (exceptions being the various things they like to lock down--but Verizon has always been far worse about that anyway).

HareyCarey said:
What's up One X peeps? I am currently with Sprint on a Galaxy S2 in the Bristol, Tn area. Not so great of service and it is only 3g coverage for Sprint here so far(no plans in the future to add LTE here as far as I know...which is stupid because the race track is sponsored by Sprint and yet they have the worst service in the area duhuh..)...aaanyway, I am considering AT&T because I can pay a little extra and have 4g almost anywhere I go in the Tri Cities. So I am torn between the S3 and the One X. I have had Sense phones and touchwiz phones so I am really asking if anyone would care to share what they love about their One X and why they chose it over the S3. They are both remarkable but I am honestly leaning toward the One X because it is different in an appealing kind of way. I am just an average user other than rooting every phone I get my hands on. Browsing, texting, listening to music with headphones, email, etc. I had a Nexus S 4G before the S2 and a Hero before that. I have loved all of my phones but I kind of want something different right now. It also helps that the One X is on sale for $99 until September.
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if you want a year old device and pentile....nexus.
if you want up to date hardware and a fawking amazing screen..HOX
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ptesmoke said:
if you want a year old device and pentile....nexus.
if you want up to date hardware and a fawking amazing screen..HOX
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U know how ppl who have sprint deal with the horrid speeds? by never experiencing good speeds..lol..I've never saw over a mb/s unless on my airave or WiFi....I don't even attempt doing stuff when I'm out and about that requires more than minimal bandwidth..but I'm in the early 2nd round of network vision so hopefully that will change ..if 6mb/s is slow for you then I'm jealous..can't imagine u need much more than that for anything..YouTube app still buffers for me on WiFi when playing hd content..and its 20 down..anyone else have that issue ?

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U know how ppl who have sprint deal with the horrid speeds? by never experiencing good speeds..lol..I've never saw over a mb/s unless on my airave or WiFi....I don't even attempt doing stuff when I'm out and about that requires more than minimal bandwidth..but I'm in the early 2nd round of network vision so hopefully that will change ..if 6mb/s is slow for you then I'm jealous..can't imagine u need much more than that for anything..YouTube app still buffers for me on WiFi when playing hd content..and its 20 down..anyone else have that issue ?
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What does "buffers" mean?
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The LTE service that I get is so fast, there is ZERO difference from WiFi, and can even be faster in some cases. When I start watching a video on youtube and switch to HD, it starts playing immediately. I can't even begin to explain how much faster it is compared to even Sprint's solid WiMAX service here in Boston.
Speaking of WiMAX, LTE on AT&T runs at 700mhz, so LTE signals penetrate buildings even better than 3G and voice if you can believe it. I remember with WiMAX my signal would drop if I stepped over a shadow.
And while I've seen bursts of up to 60mbps(I kid you not), It's the insanely low ping times(about 30ms) that make you feel like you're using WiFi.

I think I will go for it. It will cost probably $10-20 mpre a month because pf the discpunt I get with Sprint through my bank...but again, I am tired of waiting for service and having to constantly roam with roamcontrol just to make a phone call in my apartment. I will try to get time to give more thanks later. I believe I talked myself into it earlier today. Design and feel mean a lot to me. And if those Apple fanbois are happy with no removable battery or sd card then I can manage too lol. Thank you all for your input!

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It's pretty much is what I get to see while attempting to watch any video content LOL..

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If you want amazing dev nexus if you want bad aosp dev due to att being good one x
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[Q] Speed? Coverage? Straight Talk or T-Mobile? Wait for better phone?

So I've got a bunch of questions. I am a Samsung Galaxy S Epic 4G guy coming from Verizon's network. I'm wondering about the Galaxy S Relay 4G as my next phone.
-I've heard coverage is bad on T-Mobile. Is it hard to switch to straight talk? Would I use an AT&T sim card, or T-Mobile sim card for straight talk? Does coverage vary?
-How fast is this phone on 4.4.2? The Epic is kind of sluggish on 4.4.2 - which is understandable given the single core, 1ghz proc. This is why I want to upgrade.
-Any opinions coming from CDMA? I've never used a GSM phone before. I know plenty about CDMA phones, but nothing about GSM.
-Are there any slider phones on the horizon? I was thinking about waiting for the Droid 5, but it doesn't seem like it's ever going to be more than a pipe dream.
Thanks in advance!

TPMJB said:
So I've got a bunch of questions. I am a Samsung Galaxy S Epic 4G guy coming from Verizon's network. I'm wondering about the Galaxy S Relay 4G as my next phone.
-I've heard coverage is bad on T-Mobile. Is it hard to switch to straight talk? Would I use an AT&T sim card, or T-Mobile sim card for straight talk? Does coverage vary?
-How fast is this phone on 4.4.2? The Epic is kind of sluggish on 4.4.2 - which is understandable given the single core, 1ghz proc. This is why I want to upgrade.
-Any opinions coming from CDMA? I've never used a GSM phone before. I know plenty about CDMA phones, but nothing about GSM.
-Are there any slider phones on the horizon? I was thinking about waiting for the Droid 5, but it doesn't seem like it's ever going to be more than a pipe dream.
Thanks in advance!
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if you unlock the relay you can use the att based sim card but i cant confirm youll get 4g...i used straight talks tmobile based sim (normal sized) and it works perfectly...exact same as tmobile as it runs on tmobile towers....for me (in California) data was not slow for me on their tmobiles 4g (h+) networks...a new slider phone has come out this year but was pretty crappy compared to relay 4g...was an lg slider..the relay is the best choice you have if you want a slider phone if you ask me... the prior phone i had before the relay was the htc rezound (verizon network) and to me relay even out performs it by a long shot in terms of both speed and stability....to be honest 4.4.2 roms on the relay are quite fast....of course not quad core fast like a nexus 5 or s5 lol but many miles faster than the epic 4g (speaking from experience)....having a custom rom on it like lets say my liquid build is also much faster than stock plus much better battery life...

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if you unlock the relay you can use the att based sim card but i cant confirm youll get 4g...i used straight talks tmobile based sim (normal sized) and it works perfectly...exact same as tmobile as it runs on tmobile towers....for me (in California) data was not slow for me on their tmobiles 4g (h+) networks...a new slider phone has come out this year but was pretty crappy compared to relay 4g...was an lg slider..the relay is the best choice you have if you want a slider phone if you ask me... the prior phone i had before the relay was the htc rezound (verizon network) and to me relay even out performs it by a long shot in terms of both speed and stability....to be honest 4.4.2 roms on the relay are quite fast....of course not quad core fast like a nexus 5 or s5 lol but many miles faster than the epic 4g (speaking from experience)....having a custom rom on it like lets say my liquid build is also much faster than stock plus much better battery life...
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Welp, that pretty much settles it! So to sum it up:
-If TMob doesn't work, I should get an AT&T sim card, but I have to find out if 4G works on straight talk this way.
-No advantage to straight talk over t mobile except unlimited everything?
-The relay is a good purchase
-I should sell this POS galaxy S4 quickly so I can buy a relay, haha.
Even if a droid 5 comes out...I dunno. I HATE the keyboard of the droid 4. I don't know why the keys have to be right next to each other!
If anyone else has comments, let me know! I live in Central New York and they seem to have coverage.

TPMJB said:
Welp, that pretty much settles it! So to sum it up:
-If TMob doesn't work, I should get an AT&T sim card, but I have to find out if 4G works on straight talk this way.
-No advantage to straight talk over t mobile except unlimited everything?
-The relay is a good purchase
-I should sell this POS galaxy S4 quickly so I can buy a relay, haha.
Even if a droid 5 comes out...I dunno. I HATE the keyboard of the droid 4. I don't know why the keys have to be right next to each other!
If anyone else has comments, let me know! I live in Central New York and they seem to have coverage.
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Wait...do you have an epic 4g or galaxy s4? Also straight talk has a cap of 3gb usage a day. which isn't bad as its daily and not monthly on that data cap and the fact that its 5 bucks cheaper than T-Mobile prepaid monthly with similar bandwidth cap. The relay is a tmobile phone so straight talks T-Mobile based sim is what is guaranteed for 4g which beats 3g by a long shot as well which is what you may get on their att based card if you decide to do the free unlock that's guided in the threads here. I again use the T-Mobile based aim in the relay and get 4g no problem... Also a good purchase in my opinion but depends on how much you are paying for the relay...you can get one for near mint for under 100 bucks if you look on eBay.
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REV3NT3CH said:
Wait...do you have an epic 4g or galaxy s4? Also straight talk has a cap of 3gb usage a day. which isn't bad as its daily and not monthly on that data cap and the fact that its 5 bucks cheaper than T-Mobile prepaid monthly with similar bandwidth cap. The relay is a tmobile phone so straight talks T-Mobile based sim is what is guaranteed for 4g which beats 3g by a long shot as well which is what you may get on their att based card if you decide to do the free unlock that's guided in the threads here. I again use the T-Mobile based aim in the relay and get 4g no problem... Also a good purchase in my opinion but depends on how much you are paying for the relay...you can get one for near mint for under 100 bucks if you look on eBay.
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I currently use an Epic 4G. I picked up a galaxy S4 off of eBay for cheap thinking that those bluetooth keyboards would be my saving grace.
No dice. They suck. Every single one of them is a variation of one on the market with a different brand name. They are all identical. Price ranges from $20 to $100.
T-mobile currently has a deal where you supply your own phone and it's $30/month for 100 minutes talk, unlimited text, and 5gb of 4G data.
And yes, I was looking on eBay

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I currently use an Epic 4G. I picked up a galaxy S4 off of eBay for cheap thinking that those bluetooth keyboards would be my saving grace.
No dice. They suck. Every single one of them is a variation of one on the market with a different brand name. They are all identical. Price ranges from $20 to $100.
T-mobile currently has a deal where you supply your own phone and it's $30/month for 100 minutes talk, unlimited text, and 5gb of 4G data.
And yes, I was looking on eBay
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Ouch...100 mins of talk sucks...on straight talk though it is required to have the 45 dollar plan while using a smartphone....trust me they'll know if your running a smartphone just by data usage alone...but then again data is also unlimited as well as talk and text for 15 bucks more. I will say relay isn't as fast as s4 obviously because its a quad core phone and more ram. But comfortably fast in how it runs...its a great phone if you ask me...pretty comparable to an s3 on stock rom just slightly less snappy
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Ouch...100 mins of talk sucks...on straight talk though it is required to have the 45 dollar plan while using a smartphone....trust me they'll know if your running a smartphone just by data usage alone...but then again data is also unlimited as well as talk and text for 15 bucks more. I will say relay isn't as fast as s4 obviously because its a quad core phone and more ram. But comfortably fast in how it runs...its a great phone if you ask me...pretty comparable to an s3 on stock rom just slightly less snappy
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I use less than 30 minutes a month on my current plan, so it's a non-issue. I text like a fiend, though. T-mobile's plan doesn't say there's a limit to data, just that you only get the first 5gb at 4G speeds a month. Perfect for my cheap ass :laugh: