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hey guys i just noticed that our camera doesnt support zoom -.-
is there anyway by how we can port some custom app or somthing by which we can enable zoom and hopefully HD video recording(assuming that its possible bcuz many phones having 5mp cameras have it)
and also it would be good if we could use the "R" button for taking pics
I've tried LOADS of camera apps for this exact reason, and most of them come up saying that the camera does not support zoom, so i guess it is the actual hardware, not the program that is to blame its a same really, the only thing letting this phone down so far, that i have found, is the camera on it, tho i was used to my Nokie N82 8mp, with its AMAZING camera!!
i know its sad why why SE doesnt make devices perfect!! all of the devices have some or the other thing missing
I see no point in digital zoom az its like cropping the full size picture!
There must be an app somewhere that allows zoom. Anyone tried to get the xperia x10 app?
I can't believe this a lot pf people complained how the iphone didn't have zoom now Sony does this?
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I see no point in digital zoom az its like cropping the full size picture!
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i second that ! you can always digitale zoom it later on your computer.
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i second that ! you can always digitale zoom it later on your computer.
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+1 on that! Quality seriously degrades
Yea, digital zoom is mostly pointless.
All it does is degrade the picture quality by cropping it, which you can do on your PC after you have taken it.
I have another question.
Is there zoom during video?
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No zoom
No luck yet? I've tried many apps but none of them work so far.
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No luck yet? I've tried many apps but none of them work so far.
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Camera Zoom FX and Vignette support zoom and work ok after playing with settings. I think camera zoom FX compresses even unzoomed images to look worse than with stock camera. Vignette does not open right at default but after going through some setting I could fix it. Hope it helps.
I must say I was very surprised that SE haven't made a bespoke camera app for the XPlay, bit naff to have the basic GB one only
Guys, our camera hardware doesn't support any sort of zoom what so ever, disappointing I know. But quite honestly, zoom on a phones camera(unless its a pretty high megapixel camera), usually sucks.
Why is this thread still alive lol...it was created may 14
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antispiral said:
Why is this thread still alive lol...it was created may 14
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Because people are still stuck up on something that can never be
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I'm not bothered about having zoom in the app, as digital zoom is pointless and is less effective than zooming in to a full size pic with Photoshop or similar. What I would like is a fully fledged camera app though, with filters, proper settings, panorama/HDR mode etc which is all software so is perfectly possible.
Likewise, I have no interest in the zoom but is there any way to get a camera app with the interface like that on the Arc? I realise we can't have the 3D stuff/sweep etc. but just the interface would be good...can't stand the stock android app.
There's a lot of discussion about the differences between the Sense Camera and the AOSP camera going on. It's quite often the deciding factor on whether to go with a Sense ROM or an AOSP.
This thread is basically a side by side comparison of how each camera can perform in different conditions. So people have a rough guide to go by. I've taken a few images of identical scenes using each camera, and will display them together in the following posts.
I am by no means a photographer, or an expert on the science behind digital imagery. I just noticed the amount of talk going on about this subject, and thought maybe some evidence would be nice. I hope it serves some kind of purpose.
The images were taken using the highest quality conditions on each camera. And using the auto (aosp) or smart scene (sense) settings.
One thing to note is that the outdoor shots were taken a day apart. The Sense shots were taken on a rather cloudy overcast day, and the AOSP shots were taken in mostly sunny conditions. Even though the Sense shots were taken in darker conditions, they are visibly much brighter.
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Wow that supprised me... I would expect sense to be allot better. It does better in low lighting. But on regular lighting stuff it looks prettier than sense
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Here's a comparison . . . but this one is double blind.
I spend nearly all my time on Sense ROMs, but I happened to be trying out the new BrickBeatz ROM yesterday. As the topic of the AOSP camera vs. Sense was being discussed on another thread yesterday, I decided to do my own test shots.
I've attached one AOSP pic, and one Sense. I've cropped the Sense shot, so you can't tell them apart by aspect ratio too easily (only cropped it by eye on the phone, you can probably figure it out by this if you really wanted, so no cheating!) and also renamed the files, so you can't tell that way either.
Shots were taken in artificial light (compact flourescent) in my kitchen. So the lighting conditions are the same for both shots. Of course, its just a shot taken under one set of conditions. Having a toddler running around limits my time to do more. But natural vs. artificial light, low vs. good light, and a bunch of other variables make it hard to say one is really "better" than the other, unless there is really a huge difference (which I personally don't believe to be the case). Add to this, the fact that there are a plethora of possible settings (and they are not remotely parallel between the 2 camera types) making direct comparison extremely difficult.
So there is just one comparison. Try to guess which is which.
I'm guessing aosp top, sense bottom.
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I'm guessing aosp top, sense bottom.
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I'll PM you the answer. Let some more folks take a swag at it, before I post the answer here.
I actually just jumped from CM10 to Venom, since CM10 Nightlies are having build issues (no fault of our dev, all upstream stuff) and I'd been curious about Venom for awhile.
I'm trying to get some good comparison pictures, but it is surprisingly difficult - CM10's camera is not bad by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe I can take more later today in better setups, but none of what I've taken so far is worth posting...except the panorama shot I took, where the Sense camera is the clear winner.
Overall, the biggest difference is definitely in the software...Sense ROMs still have a ridiculously fast camera speed, with or without burst mode, and I'm not sure any AOSP camera can ever truly match that without access to the ImageSense chip that I believe handles some of this picture processing for the phone.
Hopefully more comparisons forthcoming as I find existing pictures to duplicate!
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I'll PM you the answer. Let some more folks take a swag at it, before I post the answer here.
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Top Is aosp, bottom is sense.
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One other thing - the quality of still pictures taken while recording video is notably better on Sense ROMs. Again, I think this is an ImageSense feature...it's designed to handle the workload. AOSP ROMs essentially take a 1080p free-frame, but Sense ROMs take a picture at the standard resolution - though it's still definitely lower-quality than a picture without video would be.
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Top Is aosp, bottom is sense.
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I agree.
WR
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I'm guessing aosp top, sense bottom.
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I'm gonna be honest, I cannot actually tell a difference in quality between those two shots. Redpoint, would you mind PMing me the answer?
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Redpoint, would you mind PMing me the answer?
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Done.
I'll wait a bit more, and see if more people want to guess. Then I'll post the answer here.
My guess is that B is Sense, only because it's sharper. But that could easily just be a focus thing.
I'd love to see some more comparison shots contributed if anyone can be bothered. I won't be taking any for the moment, had a few issues changing between ROMs (backups not working, Sense and AOSP, grr.. fresh installs causing headaches.. my fiance becoming increasingly frustrated at me having my head in my phone too much haha).
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to me the main difference is when you are on a aosp or aokp rom you cannot set the camera resolution to 6mp widescreen and take advantage of the whole screen as the viewfinder,
it has to do with the call to getsupportedpicturesizes not returning 6m widescreen in the list...
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Here's a comparison . . . but this one is double blind.
I spend nearly all my time on Sense ROMs, but I happened to be trying out the new BrickBeatz ROM yesterday. As the topic of the AOSP camera vs. Sense was being discussed on another thread yesterday, I decided to do my own test shots.
I've attached one AOSP pic, and one Sense. I've cropped the Sense shot, so you can't tell them apart by aspect ratio too easily (only cropped it by eye on the phone, you can probably figure it out by this if you really wanted, so no cheating!) and also renamed the files, so you can't tell that way either.
Shots were taken in artificial light (compact flourescent) in my kitchen. So the lighting conditions are the same for both shots. Of course, its just a shot taken under one set of conditions. Having a toddler running around limits my time to do more. But natural vs. artificial light, low vs. good light, and a bunch of other variables make it hard to say one is really "better" than the other, unless there is really a huge difference (which I personally don't believe to be the case). Add to this, the fact that there are a plethora of possible settings (and they are not remotely parallel between the 2 camera types) making direct comparison extremely difficult.
So there is just one comparison. Try to guess which is which.
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Okay, so here's the answer:
If viewed on the XDA phone app, the top of is Sense, bottom is AOSP.
If viewed on a computer browser, Photo_A (first photo) is Sense, Photo_B (second) is AOSP.
Surprising eh? Photo_B (bottom pic) is distinctly sharper, and its the AOSP camera. Of the 4 people that posted their guess, all of them got it wrong and assumed the sharper one is Sense. Personally, I would have thought they would be indiscernible, or Sense to be slightly better. So I'm as surprised as anyone.
Of course its just one photo in one specific light condition. There are a huge number of possible light conditions and setting possible. So of course, we can't make an overall judgement based on 2 pics. But its interesting, nonetheless.
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Okay, so here's the answer:
If viewed on the XDA phone app, the top of is Sense, bottom is AOSP.
If viewed on a computer browser, Photo_A (first photo) is Sense, Photo_B (second) is AOSP.
Surprising eh? Photo_B (bottom pic) is distinctly sharper, and its the AOSP camera. Of the 4 people that posted their guess, all of them got it wrong and assumed the sharper one is Sense. Personally, I would have thought they would be indiscernible, or Sense to be slightly better. So I'm as surprised as anyone.
Of course its just one photo in one specific light condition. There are a huge number of possible light conditions and setting possible. So of course, we can't make an overall judgement based on 2 pics. But its interesting, nonetheless.
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Interesting! What were the focus settings for each? I assume they were both automatically focusing on what was in front of them? Or did you have the AOSP camera set to focus on the center every time you take a picture? Did you try tapping-to-focus on Sense? Did you try setting Sense to 8 MP instead of cropping it to match AOSP?
Not nitpicking - just honestly curious what settings you used
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Interesting! What were the focus settings for each? I assume they were both automatically focusing on what was in front of them? Or did you have the AOSP camera set to focus on the center every time you take a picture? Did you try tapping-to-focus on Sense?
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Auto focus in both cases. Didn't tap focus on Sense. Just a quick and dirty test, since I happened to be switching ROMs. Completely anecdotal and nonscientific. I was literally doing this while my 2-year old daughter was running around playing in the kitchen, and I was supposed to be watching her! lol
But I was careful to get as good a shot as possible in both cases, using default settings. One might point out that maybe my hand moved just a bit more when taking the Sense shot. But as far as I'm concerned, how easy it is to get a clear photo is part of what makes a camera "good".
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Should be 8MP regardless of the aspect ratio, shouldn't it? But I used the "Large" (highest) resolution, anyhow. I didn't think of changing the aspect ratio when I took the shot, so that's why I had the idea of cropping it later. In any case, I don't see how it would make a difference. The difference here seems clearly a matter of focus and sharpness, not resolution.
So, I have been messing around. And I have come to find that the stock Camera.apk and CameraFirmware.apk from the SGS4G on froyo 2.2.1 are mostly compatible with the Sidekick 4G. In fact the camera looks better, and we could possibly port the zoom features somhow 0.0 so I have been trying to figure out how I can get started with this "idea". It would be awesome, there are a couple bugs so far.
Bugs:
-No zoom (yet)
-No highest res in Video Recorder
-Some resolutions have no review screen
-front camera is flipped 90 degrees cc ( I wanna work on this first really, if I can get some help starting it)
Just looking for stuff to do with my limited current knowledge.
(Sorry, still new to informative posting -_-)
I just linked some shots
Here is plain camera view, you can pinch and see the zoom box but the image doesn't change
--> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83829634/Android/Screenshots/device-2013-06-15-114243.png
Here is the flipped-sideways front facing shot --> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83829634/Android/Screenshots/device-2013-06-15-114814.png
And last, here is the said apks:
Camera.apk --> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83829634/Android/CameraApks/Camera.apk
CameraFirmware.apk --> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83829634/Android/CameraApks/CameraFirmware.apk
That would be nice to have if it works better. The camera is one of the weakest links on this device I think.
I know little to nothing about the cameras hardware or software, you may just need to match the libs but you also may need to rewrite drivers, that part is hard.
Keep us posted, very interesting!
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I know little to nothing about the cameras hardware or software, you may just need to match the libs but you also may need to rewrite drivers, that part is hard.
Keep us posted, very interesting!
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It would be awesome to finally have a camera with zoom is what I have been thinking. I'm not very good when it comes to code, I've still been taking courses and practicing here and there. But as far as testing it out, I can practice on my own device and let you know if I figure some things out.
Maybe another thread somewhere has the information I need to get started. Flipping the screen should probably be easy. (Hopefully heh)
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Haven't found anything too helpful as for the screen flip. Maybe I am looking in all of the wrong places? Tried Google-- got nothing, and maybe the forums use a certain term or something.
Maybe try to change picture size instead of screen flipin as the only big issue would be on screen buttons but should still work ?
If you still look for screen flip its basically the same screen same size an everything so instead of looking to flip change the location of them?
Sorry going off the few post with no pics or video of it
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Sorry about that, I'll see if I can grab up a screenshot when I get home tonight.
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Ha! And here I've been thinking this is a good camera that takes pretty dang good photos! I also thought it did zoom but mine was broken
It's not the worst camera out there. I do wish they had included a flash though. The Sidekick LX 2009 (last Danger HiptopOS version) had a flash.
Just out of curiosity did they kinda downgrade i guess world be the word the sk camera. I notice in alot of aftermarket camera apps it registers as being 4.9mp like the sgs
http://i.imgur.com/of4AgZc.png
If know how sucky it is to take action shots with the G2 and have it constantly hunting for focus ...
You would pay a million bazzillion freeking dollars for this app:
Open Camera
No it's not my app. I found it on F-Droid apps and then also discovered it is on Play store:
100% Free (unless you are inspired to but the paid donate cheap app too)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera
EDIT: see my post below a few comments down
OMG!! Seriously glad be cause this is the only good camera app I have found that allows video with infinity focus for video on LG G2.
What is INFINITY focus? Well, pretty much everything past 2 meters is infinity. This will work well if panning a video shot of your buddy passing on the ski trail or mountain bike trail or for any panning shots that confuse the G2.
Thought you would all want to know.
Nice find, thanks for sharing
natureburger said:
Open Camera
Thought you would all want to know.
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Nice find. >A Better Camera does infinity focus too. Great quality!
AyDee said:
Nice find. >A Better Camera does infinity focus too. Great quality!
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Except, A Better Camera, in infinity mode, retains the last held focus. In other words,
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I does not work properly!!!!!
Try this:
1) Put it in Continuous Focus mode in Video mode.
2) Focus on something as close as possible.
3) Without moving camera, put in Infinity focus.
4) Take Video and slowly move away and look to the distance.
Bzzzzttt. It fails.
But then I tried the Open Camera...
Even worse, it also fails!
So ... both work as long as camera is first focussed on a distant object and then switched to Infinity mode. They should both rename it to 'Last Exposure Lock' mode!!!
* This post brought to you by the International Software Testing Association in cooperation with camera testers everywhere. *
I really miss fixed focus in video coming from a sammy device, but as a solution i found the camera awesome app, where you can lock focus and exposure even in video, but ofcourse you lose the video modes of the stock camera. And is not free. But i haven't found a solution for the terrible sound of the mic
Jonous said:
I really miss fixed focus in video coming from a sammy device, but as a solution i found the camera awesome app, where you can lock focus and exposure even in video, but ofcourse you lose the video modes of the stock camera. And is not free. But i haven't found a solution for the terrible sound of the mic
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LG Camera does a nice job with audio
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LG Camera does a nice job with audio
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Maybe you missed the part about this thread being for cameras that use a true 'Infinity' mode.
The camera app link you posted is for another one that does not truly use a proper Infinity mode. Do the test I posted above and you will see that!
this is awesome
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Maybe you missed the part about this thread being for cameras that use a true 'Infinity' mode.
The camera app link you posted is for another one that does not truly use a proper Infinity mode. Do the test I posted above and you will see that!
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So basically, it does not exist, according to your second comment.
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Very awesome. This is what the stock LG camera needed. Works great to prevent the over correcting focus.
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So basically, it does not exist, according to your second comment.
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That's right. It does not exist. The only way to get the similar effect is as posted in 2nd comment: focus, then set to infinity.
Shame ... because Android camera programmer interface does come with Hyperfocal fixed focus setting that would be good for anything from 2 metres to unlimited.
Hoping someone makes a convenient button to activate that soon.
i'm searching a good app to take some good pics, the google camera has got some annoying bugs for example the focus. What do you use?
Well,I use the Camera Zoom FX but it still have bad focus if distance <5cm
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Well,I use the Camera Zoom FX but it still have bad focus if distance <5cm
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With stock app i notice bad focus with every distance
A better camera
Is there any way to xperia or s5 or m8 camera???? I would love to have that on nexus[emoji2]
keep calm and have nexus
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Is there any way to xperia or s5 or m8 camera???? I would love to have that on nexus[emoji2]
keep calm and have nexus
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Me too but i thing it s impossible
Snap Camera
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Try using Pro Capture, in time I've seen Camera 360 take better shots, but I hate it burst the flash even when I'm not taking pictures.
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A better camera
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This, good app
I use Google camera with touch focus and hdr+, and I have not yet encountered an app that matches its IQ, especially in dimmer light. I have tried many many
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Using Camera Zoom Fx...... seems good.
Stock seems fine to me, used ProCapture before.
Stock just keeps getting better for me.
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Snap Camera
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+1 to snap, simple and lovely app..
Really the only thing I'd like is a burst mode. I like that when taking pics of the kids playing. Otherwise I used very few features of my old sammy cameras so the stock app is fine for me. I don't suppose there's any way to add a burst mode to it - any mods or anything?
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I use Google camera with touch focus and hdr+, and I have not yet encountered an app that matches its IQ, especially in dimmer light. I have tried many many
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Same here. I've purchased quite a few and none beat this combo for IQ. We really are at the mercy of the hardware.
Just got Lollipop, retried FV5, and definitely love its manual iso and exposure time control, as well as raw dng support. Processing the dng files with PS express, I get great results in low light, noticeably better than stock hdr+. You can browse thru the dngs with slingshot and share/ send them to PS express
Camera FV-5 only support PNG (for now), not DNG.
I hace FV5 v2.23, not sure whether it is beta still, but it does support everything I said in full resolution on lollipop nexus5.
Check their website or Facebook:
http://www.camerafv5.com/pages/raw-samples.php
I turned on manual focus via google camera and all has been good for me. Stock 5.0.