Via Google. Who's ready for CM9?
YES
yes yes cant wait!!
it's only for the maguro = Galaxy Nexus
the other devices profiles are not included with this release
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it's only for the maguro = Galaxy Nexus
the other devices profiles are not included with this release
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I doubt that'll stop porting being done pretty quickly.
Can't wait for a rom to be available for the amaze!
Hope to see something cool for the Atrix 4G. Probably won't happen any time soon, but a man can dream.
Can not wait till it finds it way to my device.
Surely this will reach the Galaxy S2 before the end of the year? Have an upgrade due next month and as much as I want ICS I can't justify upgrading to the Galaxy Nexus as it's just not good enough, so think I'll wait for S3 and hope that Cyanogen ports this over ASAP! Will definitely donate a nice amount to the cause.
im hoping it reaches my gs2 asap
worth the wait!
Google really seems to be embarrassed by the HC source, but glad to see that they kept to their openness promise.
I want my 2.3.5 update for my S2 and then I want ICS by jan-fep.
Can anyone familiar with the dev-scene comment on whether this will help in porting ICS to GSII ? Last I remember, the problem with SDK port was with the graphic driver (Mail400) and the source-code release for sure does not help on that front!
its about time!
let's get it on!
Yessssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally!!! Xmas today!
Still waiting working on my phone
How does the development for other devices (than Galaxy Nexus) look like from this point:
1) someone said there are no "profiles" for other devices - does it mean that Google has still to release something in addition to this source to make it usable for the developers, so that they'll be able to make custom ROMs like CM for other devices?
or
2) the developers can handle it without that "profiles"?
And of course I understand the devs have to collect all device-specific code like drivers etc.
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AllGamer said:
it's only for the maguro = Galaxy Nexus
the other devices profiles are not included with this release
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Have you read the information on the source page?
News Source Code Available for Android 4.0
The source code for the Android 4.0 platform and software stack has been released! This release allows OEMs to begin preparing Android 4.0 for installation on new and existing devices, and allows hobbyists, enthusiasts, and researchers to develop custom builds. For information on how to obtain the software, visit our Getting the Source page.
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Awesome. What a treat.
Yeah let the roms coming!!
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The CEO of Notion Ink, Rohan Shravan, is at it again with news about the Ice Cream Sandwich source code release, saying it will be released November 17. While it's tempting to just toss this aside as another rumor in the ICS/Galaxy Nexus craze of late, Mr. Shravan has a track record that shows he's usually right. Last year, he did the same thing with the Gingerbread release, accurately predicting more than could be a good guess, and just last month he told everyone about the OMAP chipset and Ice Cream Sandwich using them as a reference platform. When he talks, it's always worth listening, and the Nov. 17 date has already been thrown out there as the European release. If we see source code on the 17th, the 18th is going to be a very fun day for a lot of us.
source
androidos.in/2011/11/google-to-release-android-4-0-source-code-on-nov-17/
androidcentral.com/ice-cream-sandwich-source-code-coming-nov-17-says-notion-ink-ceo
Looks like im gonna get an ICS ROM for my b-day.
Can't wait!
sorrowrain said:
The CEO of Notion Ink, Rohan Shravan, is at it again with news about the Ice Cream Sandwich source code release, saying it will be released November 17. While it's tempting to just toss this aside as another rumor in the ICS/Galaxy Nexus craze of late, Mr. Shravan has a track record that shows he's usually right. Last year, he did the same thing with the Gingerbread release, accurately predicting more than could be a good guess, and just last month he told everyone about the OMAP chipset and Ice Cream Sandwich using them as a reference platform. When he talks, it's always worth listening, and the Nov. 17 date has already been thrown out there as the European release. If we see source code on the 17th, the 18th is going to be a very fun day for a lot of us.
source
androidos.in/2011/11/google-to-release-android-4-0-source-code-on-nov-17/
androidcentral.com/ice-cream-sandwich-source-code-coming-nov-17-says-notion-ink-ceo
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You mean that SGS2 will be getting ICS? Sorry... noob here.
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You mean that SGS2 will be getting ICS? Sorry... noob here.
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No, the ICS Source Code will be made available to the public on Nov 17th. This means that Developers will be able to start working on ICS for a specific device. The advantage here is that the SGS II has a huge fan-fair also is quite open with development and has kick azz hardware, hence it will most likely be picked up for development right away with results to show soon after.
I won't lie, after reading this, I got really excited. For the past few weeks, I've been using MIUI, but once a stable ICS ROM comes out (I'm hoping/guessing CyanogenMod), I think the pure AOSP experience will be even better
Released or not ive been dam patient about ICS to come out. So dam patient that ive past my time by continuous amounts of games on my Galaxy SII!!
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Released or not ive been dam patient about ICS to come out. So dam patient that ive past my time by continuous amounts of games on my Galaxy SII!!
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We've all been patient, and regardless of whether it's Nov.17th, or slightly later, ICS is coming soon, and it will be a whole new level of operating system
Personally, I've been passing the time with Shadowgun on my I9100 (thank you Chainfire3D )
Wait a minute, Google are hosting a big Android event on the 16th! Good chance that that means they'll release the source code the day after the event, or on the day (if we assume the difference in date due to time zones). This adds a lot more credibility to the idea
I am a bit concerned about the date that Samsung is going to release ICS for SGS II.
Wouldn't this still be unusable on our SGS2 unless they release a device with proper drivers for the mali400?
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No, the ICS Source Code will be made available to the public on Nov 17th. This means that Developers will be able to start working on ICS for a specific device. The advantage here is that the SGS II has a huge fan-fair also is quite open with development and has kick azz hardware, hence it will most likely be picked up for development right away with results to show soon after.
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I hope people take notice of this instead of the same question over and over. Sure devs are looking forward to working with this source code. This is what makes android the best mobile os ever. Should imagine it wont be all that long for the roms to start trickling through.
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Toss3 said:
Wouldn't this still be unusable on our SGS2 unless they release a device with proper drivers for the mali400?
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with that said, I hope there will be a stable one for the 'g' ver too
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Wouldn't this still be unusable on our SGS2 unless they release a device with proper drivers for the mali400?
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Regarding drivers there is not going to be any big changes from 2.3.7 to 4.0. So it wont be a problem. Official drivers may be more optimized .
bala_gamer said:
Regarding drivers there is not going to be any big changes from 2.3.7 to 4.0. So it wont be a problem. Official drivers may be more optimized .
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I Agree. I think we will see a stable build of ICS with 2.3.x drivers and a much more optimized build via Samsung.
From there, the fun begins of Custom Roms and Great Tweaks.
dhruvmalik said:
I Agree. I think we will see a stable build of ICS with 2.3.x drivers and a much more optimized build via Samsung.
From there, the fun begins of Custom Roms and Great Tweaks.
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Ya, any ICS rom within this month is a sure bonus
SaneQ said:
Looks like im gonna get an ICS ROM for my b-day.
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Same I'm on the 29th.. woo hoo
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Ya, any ICS rom within this month is a sure bonus
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I think that's a lot of wishful thinking to expect it this month, at least a stable build for us to use on a daily basis.
I think Mid DEC should be a good time for a decent build, permitting driver compatibility and the Source Code release is on the 17th.
ChongoDroid said:
Same I'm on the 29th.. woo hoo
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I'm on 18th.
If it's true then that will be superb
says the CEO of Notion Ink.
Source: AndroidCentral-Link
The CEO of Notion Ink, Rohan Shravan, is at it again with news about the Ice Cream Sandwich source code release, saying it will be released November 17. While it's tempting to just toss this aside as another rumor in the ICS/Galaxy Nexus craze of late, Mr. Shravan has a track record that shows he's usually right. Last year, he did the same thing with the Gingerbread release, accurately predicting more than could be a good guess, and just last month he told everyone about the OMAP chipset and Ice Cream Sandwich using them as a reference platform. When he talks, it's always worth listening, and the Nov. 17 date has already been thrown out there as the European release. If we see source code on the 17th, the 18th is going to be a very fun day for a lot of us.
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I so hope this is true, can't wait for the real thing
Can't way to use a ICS rom that isn't a buggy piece of garbage!
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xsteven77x said:
Can't way to use a ICS rom that isn't a buggy piece of garbage!
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You made my night! I thought I was the only person not on the ICS SDK fanboy bandwagon ...
Ruffmeister -- MV's ROM and MATR1X -- It ain't ICS but hell neither is your iPhone!
Sure hope this is true. Been getting bored lately as there are no truly unique roms out there at the moment.
RonnieRuff said:
You made my night! I thought I was the only person not on the ICS SDK fanboy bandwagon ...
Ruffmeister -- MV's ROM and MATR1X -- It ain't ICS but hell neither is your iPhone!
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You would never know it by the way you post in that thread more frequently then just about anybody. You can't seem to stay away from that thread.
and hell ya, lets cross our fingers for source!
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You would never know it by the way you post in that thread more frequently then just about anybody. You can't seem to stay away from that thread.
and hell ya, lets cross our fingers for source!
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OMG, You made my night!
But for real, I did lol.
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any idea on how long until we get official build and kernel update
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You would never know it by the way you post in that thread more frequently then just about anybody. You can't seem to stay away from that thread.
and hell ya, lets cross our fingers for source!
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So you would say I am an ICS SDK fanboy huh? LOL! First am a hater and now a fan boy. You fellows just can't get your opinions straight
I think I will buy a GN on the 21st if it is out
Ruffmeister -- MV's ROM and MATR1X -- It ain't ICS but hell neither is your iPhone!
Good news is what you brought us my friend
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Hey do you guys have any idea when to expect CM9?
nice! cant wait!
Romonster said:
Hey do you guys have any idea when to expect CM9?
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after The source is released for ICS, and they pick apart whats the same and whats different and integrate the new.
wow.. can't wait!
danibri82 said:
after The source is released for ICS, and they pick apart whats the same and whats different and integrate the new.
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I read about one month after ICS release
Or now according to this thread....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346620
And this post:
https://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/4f85d9242667a85f?pli=1
Hi! We just released a bit of code we thought this group might be interested in.
Over at our Android Open-Source Project git servers, the source code
for Android version 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) is now available.
can't wait for the custom roms out there
IT'S BEEN RELEASED http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/19...andwich_source_code_released?source=rss_blogs
Swyped from mah 3vo!
Jean-Baptiste Queru
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 4:59 pm
Subject: ICS is coming to AOSP
Hi! We just released a bit of code we thought this group might be interested in.
Over at our Android Open-Source Project git servers, the source code
for Android version 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) is now available.
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https://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/c0e01b4619a1455a?pli=1
This is actually the source code for version 4.0.1 of Android, which
is the specific version that will ship on the Galaxy Nexus, the first
Android 4.0 device. In the source tree, you will find a device build
target named "full_maguro" that you can use to build a system image
for Galaxy Nexus. Build configurations for other devices will come
later.
Unfortunately we still don't have our Gerrit code review servers back
online. That remains our top priority though, and we hope to have them
back soon.
This release includes the full history of the Android source code
tree, which naturally includes all the source code for the Honeycomb
releases. However, since Honeycomb was a little incomplete, we want
everyone to focus on Ice Cream Sandwich. So, we haven't created any
tags that correspond to the Honeycomb releases (even though the
changes are present in the history.)
JBQ, on behalf of the AOSP team.
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Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
Software Engineer, Android Open-Source Project, Google.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/android-building/T4XZJCZnqF8/WkWhGUYb4MAJ
Hi! We just released a bit of code we thought this group might be interested in.
Over at our Android Open-Source Project git servers, the source code
for Android version 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) is now available.
Here's how to get it:Follow the instructions at
http://source.android.com/source/downloading.htmlCheck out the
'ics-release' branch:repo init -u
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/manifest -b android-4.0.1_r1
That's it! However since this is a large push, please be aware that it
will take some time to complete. If you sync before it's done, you'll
get an incomplete copy that you won't be able to use, so please wait
for us to give the all-clear before you sync.
This is actually the source code for version 4.0.1 of Android, which
is the specific version that will ship on the Galaxy Nexus, the first
Android 4.0 device. In the source tree, you will find a device build
target named "full_maguro" that you can use to build a system image
for Galaxy Nexus. Build configurations for other devices will come
later.
Unfortunately we still don't have our Gerrit code review servers back
online. That remains our top priority though, and we hope to have them
back soon.
This release includes the full history of the Android source code
tree, which naturally includes all the source code for the Honeycomb
releases. However, since Honeycomb was a little incomplete, we want
everyone to focus on Ice Cream Sandwich. So, we haven't created any
tags that correspond to the Honeycomb releases (even though the
changes are present in the history.)
JBQ, on behalf of the AOSP team.
--
Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
Software Engineer, Android Open-Source Project, Google.
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It looks like the HoneyComb source was released also. Will this help any active HoneyComb ROMS?
Getting some real support for the Tegra in the Gtab is all I care. Might as well just skip HoneyComb and go straight to ICS.
I thought I had a much longer wait for this, can't wait for the CyanogenMod 9 builds.
Yes, it will help. I hope that people can post the rest of the ICS posts under this topic because with the release of the Honeycomb and Ice Cream Sandwich source codes noobs are gonna go crazy.
Noob here and yes I am going crazy.
Woooooo!!!!
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Getting some real support for the Tegra in the Gtab is all I care. Might as well just skip HoneyComb and go straight to ICS.
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Ditto on that. Honeycomb really is (was) the Vista of Android.
well
I hope we get a smooth running build of one of the two. I am currently running Vegantab and its pretty smooth but it might freeze here and there or hang on the browser, etc.. Its still my daily runner.... So again, I simplty hope we get a very stable ROM egardless of which. Plus, as HWYxingfrog said, some actual tegra support would be great...
Woot
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ICS source released. Will gtab be getting it?
I hope so and will support the devs who are!
please keep topics like this in this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346829
It will help....but keep in mind that there are still no hardware drivers/kernel for the Gtablet beyond Froyo (OS 2.2).
The same issues getting Honeycomb running will be present with ICS though more insight in to the OS will be available with the source. Still no Nvidia "Harmony" kernel or drivers though....
Y'all work on this...
I'll be in Skyrim!!!
I would be surprised if Nvidia released anything for the Harmony board. Considering they already have an HC 3.2 image for Ventana, my guess is this is were all their efforts will go. Afraid we will be stuck with ported versions with no supported drivers.
what happened with the .36 kernel and all the current development for gtab?? are the devs going to have to start all over? why no update for gtabcomb? it ne'er came out of beta? hmmmm...why develop for transformer and galaxy tab if;they already have stable version of os?
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what happened with the .36 kernel and all the current development for gtab?? are the devs going to have to start all over? why no update for gtabcomb? it ne'er came out of beta? hmmmm...why develop for transformer and galaxy tab if;they already have stable version of os?
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It's still being worked on. IF you read my posts in this thread I've posted basically all the recent updates the devs have made with the .36 kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1231577&page=10
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what happened with the .36 kernel and all the current development for gtab?? are the devs going to have to start all over? why no update for gtabcomb? it ne'er came out of beta? hmmmm...why develop for transformer and galaxy tab if;they already have stable version of os?
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Allow me to disavow this uninformed complaining. Thanks for all the hard work devs.
The HC roms run pretty smoothly for the most part, is the release of the source code going to help the development of ICS roms? I know itll help but I mean will it make it easier then it was trying to get HC on the G-Tab
I remember something about nvidia/vsonic (cant remember which one) saying they wouldnt release something for honeycomb since google didnt release the source code..
So i xpect they at least release driver specs or source this time
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Allow me to disavow this uninformed complaining. Thanks for all the hard work devs.
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not complaining just asking legitimate questions.. supposedly even though google sort of released the code for honeycomb its still up to nvidia to release drivers.without those no working ics rom for gtablet
jedibbq said:
not complaining just asking legitimate questions.. supposedly even though google sort of released the code for honeycomb its still up to nvidia to release drivers.without those no working ics rom for gtablet
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Double question marks "??" and "hmmmmm..." don't typically accompany legitimate questions.
"Why isn't this out of beta? Why are they working on other devices and not mine?"
I really want some ICS love! Anyone know any thing about any ROMs based off of ICS or.... even better.... CM9? I am new to this rooting thing so...
Wow. Just search through all the topics in the skyrocket forum and you'll find your answer
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This is like some kind of Platonic Ideal of a post here.
But, I'm pretty sure they're going to release ICS at the big Samsung/AT&T/Google event tomorrow.
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I really want some ICS love! Anyone know any thing about any ROMs based off of ICS or.... even better.... CM9? I am new to this rooting thing so...
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Before you ask a question, please search the forum first, therefore other members will not give you harsh answers.
If you are looking for answers to rooting your device, please go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383464
If you are searching for rom developments, please go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1383
If you are searching for information on Ice Cream Sandwich, best luck is to search google or in the general section. There is NO certain release date of when ICS will be available, but there are rumors and some information that states it will be in Q1 of 2012.
Good luck to you.
Please press "Thanks" if I have helped you in anyway.
What event? Do you have a link. ?
I think he's referring to the CES 2012 event on January 9th.
Oh thats not tomarrow lol tomarrow is the 5th . Darn i was hoping there was some att/sammy event tomarrow.
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I think he's referring to the CES 2012 event on January 9th.
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Indeed. That is the only upcoming event that I am aware of.
I wasn't...LOL. I can't afford to buy another phone. I just pre-ordered the Transformer Prime so I'm out of money...so my wife says.
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Oh thats not tomarrow lol tomarrow is the 5th . Darn i was hoping there was some att/sammy event tomarrow.
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Haha me too my friend l lol the hope jumped up through my body!
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No, I was being mean. There's not event tomorrow and ICS is but a distant dream. Enjoy your device now and don't sweat the OS version number. ICS is not going to give much more over what you have now.
I'm sort of with the OP in wanting to know about any rom based on ICS. I've searched the forums and google to no avail. I'm seeing other devices getting a version of CM9, but nothing for the Skyrocket yet.
So, my question is this: Is anyone working on an ICS rom for the Skyrocket such as CM9? If I had the know-how I'd be all over that since we have such a great and powerful phone. I know AT&T and Samsung will eventually release ICS, but it'll never compare to the likes of CyanogenMod.
No no ones working on it. Why make a hacked up version. Thats not very functional. When our update is just around the corner. We will see ics, and mabye cm9 but.not until theres a leak for the skyrocket or the actuall update.
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No no ones working on it. Why make a hacked up version. Thats not very functional. When our update is just around the corner. We will see ics, and mabye cm9 but.not until theres a leak for the skyrocket or the actuall update.
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Thanks. Like some others I'm an impatient type...especially after using ICS on my HTC Incredible. Can hardly wait to have it on my Skyrocket, but will sit quietly (maybe) and wait.
Not saying this to start a flamewar or anything but why are so many people with talent focusing on old roms and tweaks and not ICS? IMO this is what is hurting Android with better development etc, it seems like iOS hacking and tweeking seems to be more tight-knit and innovative, where Android seems to just have (almost) the same thing over and over again.
Now, I am not saying it is the same, there are obviously very difficult functions and programming that needs to be done, but I don't get why all efforts by everyone wouldn't be focused on ICS since it is what Android needs, a fresh new OS that could change the game.
Turbojugend said:
Not saying this to start a flamewar or anything but why are so many people with talent focusing on old roms and tweaks and not ICS? IMO this is what is hurting Android with better development etc, it seems like iOS hacking and tweeking seems to be more tight-knit and innovative, where Android seems to just have (almost) the same thing over and over again.
Now, I am not saying it is the same, there are obviously very difficult functions and programming that needs to be done, but I don't get why all efforts by everyone wouldn't be focused on ICS since it is what Android needs, a fresh new OS that could change the game.
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so you want us to randomly pull kernel source for ICS (linux kernel 3.0+) out of our ass?
samsung has not provided us with enough driver libraries/binary blobs that work properly with AOSP GB, let alone ICS.
the problem here is the manufacturers. they control the proprietary hardware/drivers we need to focus attention on something. we could hack something together, but it wouldnt be worth a crap, and by the time we got something working half decent, Official would be dropped on us with source and we would have to basically start fresh....
tl;dr: it is not worth the time it takes to try to hack something together until we have 'something' from samsung.
Pirateghost said:
so you want us to randomly pull kernel source for ICS (linux kernel 3.0+) out of our ass?
samsung has not provided us with enough driver libraries/binary blobs that work properly with AOSP GB, let alone ICS.
the problem here is the manufacturers. they control the proprietary hardware/drivers we need to focus attention on something. we could hack something together, but it wouldnt be worth a crap, and by the time we got something working half decent, Official would be dropped on us with source and we would have to basically start fresh....
tl;dr: it is not worth the time it takes to try to hack something together until we have 'something' from samsung.
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Exactly its not as simple as ics source code being out, you also need proper drivers for the hardware
Pirateghost said:
so you want us to randomly pull kernel source for ICS (linux kernel 3.0+) out of our ass?
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That answers a lot for me, like I said I am not too familiar coming from Iphone (day one, I just got a Samsung Galaxy S II LTE (Skyrocket))
So obviously you need the kernel to work with the OS, I didn't know they were not released.
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....you also need proper drivers for the hardware
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Is it harder for phone hardware? Seems to be a lot of open source, or scene made drivers for, say video cards.
Turbojugend said:
That answers a lot for me, like I said I am not too familiar coming from Iphone (day one, I just got a Samsung Galaxy S II LTE (Skyrocket))
So obviously you need the kernel to work with the OS, I didn't know they were not released.
So what exactly is open about Android then? If you are at the mercy of the manufacture's to release the kernel, how is that open?
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Android itself is OPEN. you can go and build your very own version of 4.0 ICS right now from source code. there are very few phones you can STABLY and RELIABLY run it on though.
The NEXUS line of phones exists for a reason. they are untouched by carriers (verizon teabagged the Galaxy Nexus a little), and do not have some stupid overlay on them. they are developer devices in that it is the first phone to get android updates straight from google (no manufacturer interference required).
every other phone is tainted with a manufacturer's UI. Touchwiz on Samsung phones (galaxy nexus is a samsung but they provided the hardware not the software), Sense on HTC, 'non-blur' on Motorola, whatever Sony calls theirs...lol, LG, etc
on top of that tainted Android interface is a carrier branding or lockdown (doesnt apply to the entire world, but im only referring to US here)
so google releases new version of Android
manufacturers build phone, and customize android to fit their model (this is where android almost stops being OPEN)
carriers get a hold of the manufacturers build of android and tweak and modify it themselves (more than likely they just tell the manufacturers what they want), as you know they love to include bloat and lock it down from the user
you receive your android phone after it has gone through all those steps....long process huh? we dont get updates to newer versions as quickly because of that long process...and they would rather us buy new phones instead of improving perfectly good hardware.
Android is open in the sense that manufacturers can use it however they wish, within reason. it is not necessarily meant to be 'open' to the average end user, and manufacturers dont want you messing with the phone they built. its the reason XDA is what it is today, albeit with roots deep in WinMo hacking.
Hey Pirateghost Really great in-depth info with your permission I would like to add this info for noobs here.
Pirateghost said:
Android itself is OPEN. you can go and build your very own version of 4.0 ICS right now from source code. there are very few phones you can STABLY and RELIABLY run it on though.
The NEXUS line of phones exists for a reason. they are untouched by carriers (verizon teabagged the Galaxy Nexus a little), and do not have some stupid overlay on them. they are developer devices in that it is the first phone to get android updates straight from google (no manufacturer interference required).
every other phone is tainted with a manufacturer's UI. Touchwiz on Samsung phones (galaxy nexus is a samsung but they provided the hardware not the software), Sense on HTC, 'non-blur' on Motorola, whatever Sony calls theirs...lol, LG, etc
on top of that tainted Android interface is a carrier branding or lockdown (doesnt apply to the entire world, but im only referring to US here)
so google releases new version of Android
manufacturers build phone, and customize android to fit their model (this is where android almost stops being OPEN)
carriers get a hold of the manufacturers build of android and tweak and modify it themselves (more than likely they just tell the manufacturers what they want), as you know they love to include bloat and lock it down from the user
you receive your android phone after it has gone through all those steps....long process huh? we dont get updates to newer versions as quickly because of that long process...and they would rather us buy new phones instead of improving perfectly good hardware.
Android is open in the sense that manufacturers can use it however they wish, within reason. it is not necessarily meant to be 'open' to the average end user, and manufacturers dont want you messing with the phone they built. its the reason XDA is what it is today, albeit with roots deep in WinMo hacking.
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It's been a month plus and there isn't any signs of cyanogenmod development going on? what the big deal? No sources? or are there sources and devs can't figure out the complications? like it happened with the exynos 4 platform. I had a Galaxy S3 and there was reasonable support from the devs. Looks like the devs are just frustrated with the Exynos source.
Siddheshpatil said:
It's been a month plus and there isn't any signs of cyanogenmod development going on? what the big deal? No sources? or are there sources and devs can't figure out the complications? like it happened with the exynos 4 platform. I had a Galaxy S3 and there was reasonable support from the devs. Looks like the devs are just frustrated with the Exynos source.
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I'm waiting for this myself.. hope they release soon because in all phones I had CM was running.
Didn't even care. I have sd801 on my klte return to stock rom after join cm bugwagon since it out till tw lp comes out. My n9505, and previous phone also got the same fate. Yeah, yesteryear is the last cm I used. My 920f is the first phone that I didn't even root. This is my opinion. Ignore it if hurt you. ?
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I haven't been paying attention for a while, but last I knew, exynos sources are closed, as they are proprietary to Samsung. This is why there was a bunch of discussion prior to release of the device that CM would likely be very late to the party, if it shows up at all, because there would be a lot of reverse engineering required. This was also expected to make CM run comparatively poorly vs. Stock based ROMs.
Not sure if anything has changed in this regard in the last 6 weeks..
Ave666 said:
Didn't even care. I have sd801 on my klte return to stock rom after join cm bugwagon since it out till tw lp comes out. My n9505, and previous phone also got the same fate. Yeah, yesteryear is the last cm I used. My 920f is the first phone that I didn't even root. This is my opinion. Ignore it if hurt you. ?
Sent from my SM-G900F
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Exynos is a very "proprietory" platform, the sources are most likely not made available and if they are , its not maintained like Qualcomm does. My point being, sooner or later by december this year samsung will out hints for the next flagship, and thus our updates will be killed. My s3 never got a taste of kitkat or lollipop officially. The sooner the source is available, the better it is. Devs can start working on it.
dandrumheller said:
I haven't been paying attention for a while, but last I knew, exynos sources are closed, as they are proprietary to Samsung. This is why there was a bunch of discussion prior to release of the device that CM would likely be very late to the party, if it shows up at all, because there would be a lot of reverse engineering required. This was also expected to make CM run comparatively poorly vs. Stock based ROMs.
Not sure if anything has changed in this regard in the last 6 weeks..
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Even if it is proprietary they do release source. They did release code for Exynos 5. ( galaxy alpha is getting some cm treatment). The s3 had so many roms, yes the reverse engineering Codeworkx, Andrew and gokhanmoral had to do was messed up but amazing.
Popular question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/curious-rom-development-t3108196
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/question-exynos-rom-development-t3093581
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/dev-s6-t3075461
BTW, per the sticky in the General section, questions should be posted there.
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=SM-G920 we do have the source
Siddheshpatil said:
Even if it is proprietary they do release source. They did release code for Exynos 5. ( galaxy alpha is getting some cm treatment). The s3 had so many roms, yes the reverse engineering Codeworkx, Andrew and gokhanmoral had to do was messed up but amazing.
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Thanks for this info. I've been very much out of the Samsung scene for a couple years - last Sammy device I had was an SGS2. Good to know there is hope for decent CM support. It's cool to see some of the same awesome devs in this community that i remember from the S2.
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Thanks for this info. I've been very much out of the Samsung scene for a couple years - last Sammy device I had was an SGS2. Good to know there is hope for decent CM support. It's cool to see some of the same awesome devs in this community that i remember from the S2.
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The kind of effort andrew and codeworkx put to fix the emmc bug in s2 is amazing.. Hope something like that doesn't show up on the s6..