Hi!
Ok, i'm not good in writing especially in english so here we go
From all kernel that has been released lately, which one do you recommend for having the best battery life in term of standby??
My opinion is Sebastian's kernel in ARHD 6.5.1
it gave me mostly 2 hours for 1%
but i have new problem now cause i flash ARHD 6.5.3 and then restore boot from 6.5.1 NAND back up and now my wifi gave me error
(but this is my problem, not yours )
Come on guys, give me your opinion
I'm currently running Hyper NonSense with the default kernel - I think it's Faux that's cooked into the ROM but unsure of this. Between the ROM and the kernel, I'm getting the best battery life I've seen with this phone. Easily have 30-50% left at the end of the day with moderate use; haven't actually benchmarked it more carefully than that.
Any update on this? My sensation doesn't even last a day...
Best kernels right now are Faux kernel
Sebastian FM
Bricked kernel
I myself have found that bricked uses the less battery, but try them yourself and decide which suits your needs.
I'm using Faux right now with HyperNonSense and I would say it's a good balance between battery saving and performance. One thing to keep in mind is that the higher you OC the more juice it'll drain. So far I've always capped my CPU to 1.24Mhz and I've never had an issue with performance. During light use I can get more than 30 hours in a full charge. If it's a moderate use, I'm still able to touch 24 hours. Oh yeah I'm using Anker 1900mAh.
there's been so many different types of rom posted...
but would like to know which one by far has the best battery life. i'm already running an aftermarket 2500mAh battery (Galili DPG-GI4) from ebay and it's giving me 1.5 days of full usage on the JB (KANG) rom.
before trying another.. anyone have experience they can share? i know each usage scenerio varies, but i travel a lot so need to use the phone very often. so the bells and whistles, i can live without to save more battery life.
thanks.
ViperS with Bricked Kernel on Badass the battery is great. I reckon if you turned the CPU down to 1.2ghz you could squeeze even more out. I think the sense based ROMs have the best battery life, but that's personal experience. As most people will tell you, it works to try out many first.
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Okay, I'm officially sick of battery drain. My first time with this issue was after flashing CM10, my GB build before that gave me the perfect amount of battery life. My phone would last throughout the day on GB. I got sick of the drain on CM10 after a week and flashed GB back to my device. My battery life has been normal the past few months on GB.
Since the official ICS builds were released I've been using ICS. I first flashed V28, battery drain was just like CM10. I flashed GB back and battery went back to normal. The next day official AT&T V30B was released, so I flashed it. Battery drain came back again.
Every single rom above GB has caused battery drain for my device. I've tried every suggested method I could find online. Flashing a different kernel, setting CPU Governor to hotplug, using nstools. I've done everything. I keep my phone in airplane mode, auto-sync is turned off, my brightness is at the lowest setting, gps and location settings are set to off, bluetooth is also off. I've tried charging the battery fully, pulling the battery out for a minute, charging fully again, pulling it again, charge some more, that didn't help at all.
My battery is dropping 10% in 15 minutes and all I have open is the web browser. This never happens on GB, no matter when I flash it. I don't understand what the issue is. I've also fully wiped my device internally and externally. I've spent a couple of hours trying to find an answer but nothing helps. If you can assist me, please take a minute and do so, this is frustrating. Thanks in advance.
Well generally yes. ICS+ drains a lot more battery than GB for a reason. Its running many more system apps and this can put a strain on battery life with the system working that hard "While Sleeping too". If you really cant take the drain.. Order and extended battery online. I suggest checking out the Accessory section. Good luck!
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Greenify + betterbatterystats
Two great apps that will help with battery life
Am i the only one getting significantly BETTER battery life on ICS?
mchartier said:
Am i the only one getting significantly BETTER battery life on ICS?
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No. You are not. ICS consume much less battery due to the better RAM organization and memory killer. Just in many ROMs there is too much stupid programs and in many KERNELs are not optimized. Moreover people compare all data switched off of GB and the many process running by default in ICS that they can switch off.
The ROM/Kernel combination (by Acura) in my signature give me 48h battery life - the same like the GBs by Acura or Darkroom Team.
So... it is better not to compare STOCK GB with STOCK ICS - you never know the tweaks and running stuff by default. Better compare Developer GB with the SAME developer ICS ROM if you want to claim such a think.
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Am i the only one getting significantly BETTER battery life on ICS?
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No, mine is better, too.
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mchartier said:
Am i the only one getting significantly BETTER battery life on ICS?
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Me too, at least comparing the stock GB with the stock ICS.
There's no use of comparing custom ROMs/kernels anyway.
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Me too, at least comparing the stock GB with the stock ICS.
There's no use of comparing custom ROMs/kernels anyway.
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nope. other way around. you never know what kind of sh*t is on is in STOCK, and you know that custom (developers) ROM are clean form most of them and tweaked for performance and battery. Stock mean ... "tweaked" and filled with bloatware by LG - nothing more.
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nope. other way around. you never know what kind of sh*t is on is in STOCK, and you know that custom (developers) ROM are clean form most of them and tweaked for performance and battery. Stock mean ... "tweaked" and filled with bloatware by LG - nothing more.
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True about the custom roms but you missed my point about the stock roms.
When someone claims for example that "the new xxx rom for my phone is worse/better than the old yyy rom", you have to ask "under what conditions". And in order to make a reasonable and reliable comparison, you need to compare the old and new stock roms and run the battery benchmarks only on those.
This is exactly what the biggest tech sites and magazines do when comparing the batteries. They run the tests on STOCK conditions/roms with as few apps as possible, apart of the stock apps.
Battery comparison is a delicate business. For example, even if you have the same two phones with the same stock roms, if the one phone receives a weaker 2G/3G or WiFi signal, its battery will finish much faster than the other one.
And if you start adding apps, changing to custom roms, kernels, radios and bootloaders then you have far too many factors in order to make a reliable comparison.
Okay, I tried geenify and bbs on a full charge and experienced no changes. My battery is dying quickly as we speak. My battery went from 81% to 34% in 5 1/2 hours in idle. I don't see how I'm having this issue and everyone else isn't.
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True about the custom roms but you missed my point about the stock roms.
When someone claims for example that "the new xxx rom for my phone is worse/better than the old yyy rom", you have to ask "under what conditions". And in order to make a reasonable and reliable comparison, you need to compare the old and new stock roms and run the battery benchmarks only on those.
This is exactly what the biggest tech sites and magazines do when comparing the batteries. They run the tests on STOCK conditions/roms with as few apps as possible, apart of the stock apps.
Battery comparison is a delicate business. For example, even if you have the same two phones with the same stock roms, if the one phone receives a weaker 2G/3G or WiFi signal, its battery will finish much faster than the other one.
And if you start adding apps, changing to custom roms, kernels, radios and bootloaders then you have far too many factors in order to make a reliable comparison.
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"biggest tech sites and magazines" do PAID "comparisons" from A to Z. Do not trust any of them. Better compare best of X with best of Y. Or worse of X with the worse of Y. Like a scientist and like computer overclocker I know what means "Average" values.... there is no such a think. As i said - stock is just made by somebody... that is all... and here the developers are better. Moreover you do not know the current person how install the "Stock" Rom. If he did reset, if he still is on ext3 or on ext4. Does the person did a hard reset or not. Does still keep old baseband by installing the simple BIN or the BIN with baseband or the KDZ (bin+bb). different basebands different signal power etc etc etc... thats why i said BG of X with the ICS of X developer - they use nearly the same tweaks in all Roms with additions.
I had battery drain problem on all roms since GB untill v28b.
I lose about 1-2% during the night with wifi always on..I mean really always ON.[Thats 2% during 8h of sleep, on darkroom v2 i had 35% loss]
During the day my battery can last around 12h-15h..
My other,extended battery 3500mAh makes things a lot easier for gaming. I recharge them during the night and woooo..
V28b is the best rom and you should try flashing kdz with Mobile support tool like this:
http://p92x.acidhazardrom.com/guides/lg_flash_tool.html
There have been problems while flashing bin and fls but you never know, it's different for any user.
The second thing you should do is to erase or freeze any system app that you don't use.
For example I erased adrenalin6,gtalk,lg apps,........... and left only the apps that I really need.
I'm on stock v28b with the stock kernel and I have no problems.
And buy a new battery, maybe that's the problem..They are cheeeeep.
me to i have a very good lif batterie after flashe 28b i sharge it 100% wifi 3or 4 h day blut 1h day ande calls lyck always
for 1 day in GB v21e at 19:00 may batteri is in 20 or 15% CHARGE
in v28b for 1 day at 19:00 may batteri is in 55 or 50% CHARGE
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Android1993 said:
Okay, I tried geenify and bbs on a full charge and experienced no changes. My battery is dying quickly as we speak. My battery went from 81% to 34% in 5 1/2 hours in idle. I don't see how I'm having this issue and everyone else isn't.
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That is too much loss IF what you say is correct that your phone is idle..
My O3D with wifi on and ICS during nighttime goes from 100% to 95% and btw my battery is the original that i bought with the phone back in the summer of 2011.
It doesnt run on stock ROM but it does run on stock kernel for now...
And btw guys forget about magazine tests and such BS because they are just promoters...
Never compare STOCK ROMS with CUSTOM ROMS because custom ROMS will always be better than STOCK, thats the way its meant to be.
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That is too much loss IF what you say is correct that your phone is idle..
My O3D with wifi on and ICS during nighttime goes from 100% to 95% and btw my battery is the original that i bought with the phone back in the summer of 2011.
It doesnt run on stock ROM but it does run on stock kernel for now...
And btw guys forget about magazine tests and such BS because they are just promoters...
Never compare STOCK ROMS with CUSTOM ROMS because custom ROMS will always be better than STOCK, thats the way its meant to be.
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I reverted back to GB, factory reset, now I'm flashing V30B one last time, I'll do a factory reset upon starting it up. Let's see if whatever has been broken the last 3 times gets fixed.
UPDATE: I think I got down to the issue. The phone isn't correctly reading the battery. I did a shut down and reboot and it went from 93% to 86% , I then plugged it in, shut it down and reboot again and it read 100%.
I'm done. I'll probably stick with GB til I get a new device.
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"biggest tech sites and magazines" do PAID "comparisons" from A to Z. Do not trust any of them. Better compare best of X with best of Y. Or worse of X with the worse of Y. Like a scientist and like computer overclocker I know what means "Average" values.... there is no such a think. As i said - stock is just made by somebody... that is all... and here the developers are better. Moreover you do not know the current person how install the "Stock" Rom. If he did reset, if he still is on ext3 or on ext4. Does the person did a hard reset or not. Does still keep old baseband by installing the simple BIN or the BIN with baseband or the KDZ (bin+bb). different basebands different signal power etc etc etc... thats why i said BG of X with the ICS of X developer - they use nearly the same tweaks in all Roms with additions.
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You missed my point again.
Of course the good tweaked custom roms/kernels etc are far better than any stock roms, and not only in battery life, there's absolutely no question about that.
But when someone claims "the ICS rom has better/worse battery than the GB rom" it's much easier and more reliable to compare the ICS/GB stock roms than the custom roms, because of the much fewer degrees of freedom.
In a nutshell:
-Comparing, e.g., GB 21E stock rom with the ICS 28B stock rom: easy.
-Comparing, e.g., GB 21E custom rom which has different tweaks/kernels etc with an ICS custom rom which has again different tweaks/kernels etc: not so easy.
I'm having the same battery drain problem with mine too. Its driving me crazy to have to charge my phone 2-3 times a day
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You missed my point again.
Of course the good tweaked custom roms/kernels etc are far better than any stock roms, and not only in battery life, there's absolutely no question about that.
But when someone claims "the ICS rom has better/worse battery than the GB rom" it's much easier and more reliable to compare the ICS/GB stock roms than the custom roms, because of the much fewer degrees of freedom.
In a nutshell:
-Comparing, e.g., GB 21E stock rom with the ICS 28B stock rom: easy.
-Comparing, e.g., GB 21E custom rom which has different tweaks/kernels etc with an ICS custom rom which has again different tweaks/kernels etc: not so easy.
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i got your point but....
lets hypothetically say:
1. Stock ROM GB give 75% of the max possible (best score of LG developers for 2 years developing from v. 10A to 21E). Stock ROM ICS 50% of the max possible (best score of LG developers for first leaked ROM)
2. Custom ROM GB - 99-99-99% of the max possible (best for developers A1, A2, A3). Custom ROM ICS 96-98-99% of the max possible (best for developers A1, A2, A3)
so...witch you think is better to compare - 50 with 75 from the max possible ("max possible" is the key phrase for speed, battery etc.) for LG
or comparing 98 with 99 for each GB or ICS custom... i would compare the last one. if 98 for GB is 16h and 99 for ICS is 14h ... then OK. GB is better. but not by original LG roms.
that is my point.
And another O3D tale...without happy end ;(
1.) Stock GB under heavy use (more then 3 hours of SMS, games & WiFi over the day) = A battery life of 13-19 hours
2.) Stock ICS v30a under minimal use (some SMS, little gaming and WiFi) = A battery life of approx. 10 hours
3.) Stock ICS v30a + ROOT, nearly no use at all over the day, no WiFi, (just 3 SMS) = A battery life of 7 hours.
After 2 hours in my jeans pocket = 68% of battery left
After 7 hours in ma jeans pocket = 8% of battery left (just 3 SMS written)
Then I read "Battery Re-Calibration" is of no use...and did not try it.
Then I read TaskKillers are nearly useless and un-installed "Advanced Task Killer"...didnt help. Re-Installing it didnt help either.
What is goin on here ?
May I suggest to check the CPU VRM (voltage regulator module) setting? I found out why, undervolting the CPU solved my problem. Voltage = ampere due to either linear and/or switchmode voltage regulator design.
EDIT: To clarify why voltage = ampere equations is true; ever wonder why PC motherboard gets away with shoving 100 Amps of power into the CPU without melting the 12V plug? In nutshell, battery trades amperage consumption for voltage shunted by inductor in switchmode VRM - in other word, battery have to work harder on higher CPU voltage settings but takes it easier at idle voltage.
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This is a rather simple question do different roms really have better battery life then others or is it more of the choice of kernel? Do roms effect battery life as much as the choice of kernel? I currently have vipers Rom and just maxed out at 3:20 of screen on time with stock battery with underclocked and undervolted Sebastian kernel and want to no if switching to elegancia Rom would really make a difference in battery at all
Thanks
Lostmymind904 said:
This is a rather simple question do different roms really have better battery life then others or is it more of the choice of kernel? Do roms effect battery life as much as the choice of kernel? I currently have vipers Rom and just maxed out at 3:20 of screen on time with stock battery with underclocked and undervolted Sebastian kernel and want to no if switching to elegancia Rom would really make a difference in battery at all
Thanks
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Hi,
Battery usage is a very subjective matter.
Everyone uses their phones differently,so , judging battery life between people is hard.
Yes , some ROMS are better than others.
Yes, some kernels are better than others.
It is the combination of the right ROM and kernel for you that is going to matter.
And no one can tell you what that is.
Experiment for a couple of days to see how they work.
READ what other people are saying about them in the threads.
OR,
Get a couple of spare batteries,and carry them around with you,and then , power is never a problem.
I realize this device has only been out for a very short time, but are there currently any stable/semi stable kernels that improve battery life? I've looked through a few kernel threads, but many seem to be unstable (which is to be expected) and optimized for overclocking. Are there any kernel developers focusing primarily on battery life?
jetrii said:
I realize this device has only been out for a very short time, but are there currently any stable/semi stable kernels that improve battery life? I've looked through a few kernel threads, but many seem to be unstable (which is to be expected) and optimized for overclocking. Are there any kernel developers focusing primarily on battery life?
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Stock kernel is fantastic. If you're having issues, we need a BetterBatteryStats log from you.
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Stock kernel is fantastic. If you're having issues, we need a BetterBatteryStats log from you.
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BBS is not compatible with 4.4 yet. Sven is working on it.
On topic: stock kernel is good. I'm getting excellent battery life, 4+ hours screen on time is no exception. It's a common misconception a custom kernel is a magical battery life extender.
jetrii said:
I realize this device has only been out for a very short time, but are there currently any stable/semi stable kernels that improve battery life? I've looked through a few kernel threads, but many seem to be unstable (which is to be expected) and optimized for overclocking. Are there any kernel developers focusing primarily on battery life?
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Both faux and franco kernels seems to be maturing fairly well. I can't personally vouch for franco, but I've been stable on every iteration (betas and stable releases) of faux's kernel, with the exception of some aggressive undervolting, which is not a really reflection on the kernel. Battery life has improved, particularly for sleep mode. Can't say the screen on time has improved dramatically, if at all, under these kernels.
FWIW, I have been fortunate enough to have a phone with adequate sound output, so I have not played at all the the sound mods available through faux, only the CPU/GPU/memory settings.
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BBS is not compatible with 4.4 yet. Sven is working on it.
On topic: stock kernel is good. I'm getting excellent battery life, 4+ hours screen on time is no exception. It's a common misconception a custom kernel is a magical battery life extender.
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Franco kernel on the N4 gave me 1.5 to 2.5 hrs. extra screenontime compared to stock Thats a fact and no placebo.
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Franco kernel on the N4 gave me 1.5 to 2.5 hrs. extra screenontime compared to stock Thats a fact and no placebo.
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I tried all popular kernels on my GNEX. And by trying I don't mean flashing a new one every other day, used them for a couple of weeks at least. None of them produced any noticeable increase in battery life. That's a fact as well. I only used them for their options.
I'm curious what makes people think what the mechanism is behind hours of extra screen on time with a custom kernel (where custom is 95% or more original AOSP code).
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I tried all popular kernels on my GNEX. And by trying I don't mean flashing a new one every other day, used them for a couple of weeks at least. None of them produced any noticeable increase in battery life. That's a fact as well. I only used them for their options.
I'm curious what makes people think what the mechanism is behind hours of extra screen on time with a custom kernel (where custom is 95% or more original AOSP code).
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Read some Franco N4 pages and you`ll see my statement confirmed. The Gnex (which i only owned for a very brief period) is not the N4.
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Read some Franco N4 pages and you`ll see my statement confirmed. The Gnex (which i only owned for a very brief period) is not the N4.
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I've read dozens of people claiming Franco, GlaDOS, Faux, Trinity, etc did wonders for their GNEX battery life. They never did for me, despite I used their recommendations and setup. I've yet to stumble upon actual proof (and I don't mean screen on time screenshots accompanied by opinions of users) a custom kernel actually uses less current than the stock one. If you have some, I'm very curious to read it.
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BBS is not compatible with 4.4 yet. Sven is working on it.
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There is a beta version posted on XDA that works with 4.4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
BBS beta has been available in the forum for weeks. It's almost always on the first page, somehow people keep overlooking it.
As far as kernel battery life goes, I think it can matter in certain cases. For instance, I came from the S3, and I don't know about other phones, but the battery life on the CM 3.4 kernel was absolutely terrible (3.0 was fine). Custom kernel was needed not only to tame the battery drain, but to improve stability (fix hotbooting, etc.). Support for that device has been sub par for a long time on the AOSP front. If it weren't for KT747 and leanKernel, CM wouldn't have been usable at all (3.4+). Though, there is still a very valid argument that it wasn't usable anyhow. So custom kernels can make a difference in some cases.
Sleep is an issue with the stock kernel? I get 0.2%-0.4% drain per hour while idling. Zero issues here. If you want proof, I'd be happy to attach a BBS log for you guys to inspect. I don't disable sync or GPS. Never have and never will. You need to be in control of the apps on your phone.
Perhaps I should have clarified: my battery life is actually very good. I don't have any major complaints, and my idle drain is insanely low (the 0.2% - 0.4% figure claimed by Aerowinder isn't too far off). I'm coming from a Note 2 though, so although the battery life is good, I'm always looking for something to make it a bit better . I've been watching Franco and Faux kernels, but they seem hit or miss based on what I'm reading and the personal experience of my friends. I may wait a while longer for a stable release.