[Q] eng s-off problem. - HTC Inspire 4G

Hello to every one here in this forum.
I am posting here a topic about a problem I have with my new htc inspire 4G.
I had rooted my phone with success with the ace hack kit and loaded the revolution
HD rom .after one o 2 days II thought I load the radio that was given with this rom
So I went to make the phone eng s-off and I forgot to check the I have s-off.
Now the problem is I cannot get to the boot screen and when I turn on the phone it takes about half an hour to start. After that every thing is ok.trying every thing to get the stock rom back but no success. All the methods I found at this forum will fail. The phone just freezes and I have to take the battery to start it again and wait for half an hour to start.
Any help would be grateful.
Thanks.

Look for Gene Poole's s-on tool. Follow his instructions and return to stock. Then try the hack kit from attn1. You should be set then.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium

You need to get a proper hboot installed. The newer Inspires have some hardware just enough different that the ENG hboot and/or the older Froyo hboot images will cause just this problem. Since you were able to install this, then you are obviously S-OFF. As such, you can install a new hboot from the booted phone (once it is finally booted) but it is tricky and involves operations that could really screw things up. Your best bet is to jump into the IRC channel and get some real-time help with this:
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#liberatedAria

proper hboot
Hello and thanks for your replys.
I am new to these things and i did manager to root my phone with sucsess and load a new rom. The only problem is with the hboot now. How can i fix it to be ok. If i have fast boot enable the phone starts up in 5 sec. if i do not i have to wait about half an hour to start after that every thin is working ok.
What do i have to do?
Any more help would be gratfull.
And sorry for my bad english.

proper hboot
ok guys after i installed the eng s-off the phone canot boot normal any more.
any ideas to fix it or leave it like this?

VAMIAN said:
ok guys after i installed the eng s-off the phone canot boot normal any more.
any ideas to fix it or leave it like this?
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Have you tried hittng the irc link above that gene poole posted for you??????
I got your 10 char right here

You should read up on this phone in the threads. Its been stated many places that eng s-off messes with the new hboot and you dont even need it to flash a radio. Hboot does this with a pd98img without needing eng s-off. But I hope you go to the link suggested and get it fixed. Stay away from eng s-off.
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium

proper hboo
First i want to thank you guys for your replys i did use the Gene Poole's s-on tool
but it says no image or wrong image i tryed 3-4 times but sill the same.
any ideas about not wanting to load the PD98IMG.ZIP?

eng s-off problem
i finally did manage to to load Gene Poole's s-on tool but still the problem is there and phone is still eng s-off.

Problem fixed
I want to thank you all for all the good things and help you have here.
phone is fixed i took the battery out and after that the phone starts and boots
like new.
thanks again

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[Q] Trouble Rooting EVO 4G S-OFF

*ATTENTION MODS* I am reposting.... sort of... the original thread is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9074948#post9074948
Hello! I am not new to rooting...I did get a new EVO 4G at best buy yesterday...
Went home and tried to root following another method than unrEVOked 3.21 and long story short had to RUU with "RUU_SuperSonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.26.651.6_Radio_2.15 .00.07.28_NV_1.40_release_140444_signed"
I then tried unrEVOked 3.21 which SEEMED to work... I followed all onscreen prompts...
Plugged in my phone, ran the program, phone rebooted, selected HBOOT USB, Program reported that everything was going along nicely...even saw the program say waiting for root..."this was a triumph" Rebooted..then came back up to desktop...didnt reboot in recover like i have seen... the program then reverts to saying the thing about HBOOT USB.... there is NO SuperUser app and it is NOT rooted...
Please tell me where I went wrong...and what I need to do to fix it...
Info about MY Phone
Android Version 2.2
Baseband Version 2.15.00.07.28
Kernel 2.6.32.15-g746f4f0
Software Version 3.26.651.1
PLEASE help....I am having withdrawals lol...
***UPDATE***
Following this Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
I made it to Step 19...then S#*+ went crazy...It appears that the recover did NOT flash...not really sure...I am now trying to RUU my phone back...and start over but it keeps saying the phone is low battery <30% and its NOT...I looked at 3 batterys on a Hero and it says all are over 70%...
and ..since im pretty sure this matters...with S-OFF
When I try to flash PC36IMG.zip Radio_V2 FAIL-PU and...Bootloader FAIL-IC is what I get...
ALL help greatly appreciated...thankfully I am off work the next two days...So I know I can get this resolved
Ok I have done a lot of reading that seems to indicate that I have no ROM or my ROM is Broken...and seeing as how RUU keeps saying my battery level is too low I am going to put it on the charger til the light turns green...Try to RUU in the Morning...
***SOMEONE PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG ***
I am under the impression that RUU'ing will NOT Turn S-ON and will Leave S-OFF
But will just load a ROM and allow me to boot in and then run unrEVOked and be on my merry rooted way...
If ANYONE knows that it will turn S-ON please stop me lol...I am going to stop trying for now and get some sleep... will check this post before continuing..

engineering hboot

ive seen references to an eng hboot for the inspire 4g. im still a lil fuzzy on what DHD stuff can be flashed on the inpire so bear with me
im am radio s-offed and wondering if there is a download for an eng hboot somewhere thats not hidden inside a root tool.
i miss some of my fastboot commands and would like to run an engineering bootloader if one is available that works with all firmwares.
im not normally one to ask for info,but searching the entire inspire section for eng hboot,engnineering hboot,eng bootloader,engineering bootloader and even just plain eng and engineering didnt turn one up.
thanx for any info
scotty1223 said:
ive seen references to an eng hboot for the inspire 4g. im still a lil fuzzy on what DHD stuff can be flashed on the inpire so bear with me
im am radio s-offed and wondering if there is a download for an eng hboot somewhere thats not hidden inside a root tool.
i miss some of my fastboot commands and would like to run an engineering bootloader if one is available that works with all firmwares.
im not normally one to ask for info,but searching the entire inspire section for eng hboot,engnineering hboot,eng bootloader,engineering bootloader and even just plain eng and engineering didnt turn one up.
thanx for any info
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It's out there - but jams up booting on Inspire devices shipped with Gingerbread. If that's you - don't even think about it. If your phone was shipped with Froyo, applied and used correctly, it's fine, however unnecessary.
On my Inspire ENG S-OFF has been made correctly with DHD One click ENG S-OFF tool, but I do not remember with what firmware it was on sale.
thanks for the replys. i was able to find hboot-eng.nb0 inside the s-off tool mentioned above.
just curious... whats the difference in shipped with GB vs froyo? i picked this phone up used,so no idea what it shipped with
by jams up,i assume you mean it hangs at the htc screen and wont boot?
I bought my Inspire at the beginning of December, and tried that same tool. Everything worked fine, them I rebooted. It died.I yanked the battery, and no response. 10 minutes later, then phone came on by itself and vibrated for about two minutes while stuck on the boot screen. Then it loaded just fine.
But, it would do the same thing if I ever rebooted.
Thinking I would be slick, I flashed the original stock rom from htc so it would install the original bootloader. Bricked immediately! It would never leave the bootscreen.
So, I returned it to Walmart, and got a new one. So, if you aren't sure about when your phone was shipped out, don't do it. Bad juju.
too late! i was running the 3.12.405.1 wwe rom and flashed the eng hboot. rebooted bootloader,and it was a .85 hboot,so i thot it would be ok,but stuck at htc screen on reboot.
unlike your experience,i flashed the stock att ruu and it was fine. currently reflashing and resetting up 3.12.405.1 rom.
did the tool turn your radio secure flag off and super CID you? maybe its got somethin to do with that? or something with the tool? i had installed it via a PD98IMG file in fastboot
thanks for the warning,if id seen it sooner,i prolly wouldnt have bothered. one thing i did notice was that with the eng hboot i was unable to fastboot oem rebootRUU resulted in a "FAILED!" error
scotty1223 said:
unlike your experience,i flashed the stock att ruu and it was fine. currently reflashing and resetting up 3.12.405.1 rom.
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Sooo jealous. I don't really know if the tool ever truly worked because I could never get back into bootloader to check any of it. Now, it isn't so much that I need eng s-off, but that it has issued a challenge by bricking my phone. It's personal.
Galaen said:
Sooo jealous. I don't really know if the tool ever truly worked because I could never get back into bootloader to check any of it. Now, it isn't so much that I need eng s-off, but that it has issued a challenge by bricking my phone. It's personal.
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It's highly doubtful you actually bricked it. I can fix these. But since you no longer have it, we'll never know.

Inspire issues, possible soft brick, long startup, bad hboot?

So my Inspire has been buggy ever since I tried to ENG S-Off it with Easy S-Off.
When I go to turn it on, it stays off for 8-10 minutes, then FINALLY turns on and hangs at the white HTC screen for a minute or two and constantly vibrates, then hangs there some more, then EVENTUALLY turns on and works fine. It does this every time.
Do I have a bad HBoot? Do I need a new P****.zip file or whatever it is?
Anyone know what I can do to fix this? I tried flashing back to stock with the Ace Hack Kit, but that involves the phone rebooting and it took so long to reboot that the hack kit timed out and failed.
First off your first issue was messing with Eng s-off. You should seriously research this topic due to the fact that messing with this setting is VERY DANGEROUS to the phone if you dont know what your doing, damage can be permanent and is a sure way to brick your phone. Its more for the advanced user and not a novice. All you needed is rooted s-off to do whatever you want to phone and if your trying to flash a radio there are flashable radios without Eng s-off. Head over to the Ace Hack Kit IRC chat and you might find the help you need there.
SilentAssailant said:
So my Inspire has been buggy ever since I tried to ENG S-Off it with Easy S-Off.
When I go to turn it on, it stays off for 8-10 minutes, then FINALLY turns on and hangs at the white HTC screen for a minute or two and constantly vibrates, then hangs there some more, then EVENTUALLY turns on and works fine. It does this every time.
Do I have a bad HBoot? Do I need a new P****.zip file or whatever it is?
Anyone know what I can do to fix this? I tried flashing back to stock with the Ace Hack Kit, but that involves the phone rebooting and it took so long to reboot that the hack kit timed out and failed.
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Exactly as Reinaldo told u. You have messed your bootloader up...you need to fix it. Go to where he directed you. ENG S-OFF is not necessary and very dangerous. Using PD98IMG files is just fine and works great.
Well the only reason I tried the Eng S-Off is because I was told to do so by the maker of Android Revolution in order to be able to flash a certain custom radio he suggest works best with my version 7.0.2
SO I just go into the IRC and explain my issue and they'll hopefully try and help me out?
EDIT: I searched everywhere and can't seem t find the Ace Hack Kit IRC chat you speak of.
SilentAssailant said:
Well the only reason I tried the Eng S-Off is because I was told to do so by the maker of Android Revolution in order to be able to flash a certain custom radio he suggest works best with my version 7.0.2
SO I just go into the IRC and explain my issue and they'll hopefully try and help me out?
EDIT: I searched everywhere and can't seem t find the Ace Hack Kit IRC chat you speak of.
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http://webchat.freenode.net/#aahkSupport
SilentAssailant said:
Well the only reason I tried the Eng S-Off is because I was told to do so by the maker of Android Revolution in order to be able to flash a certain custom radio he suggest works best with my version 7.0.2
SO I just go into the IRC and explain my issue and they'll hopefully try and help me out?
EDIT: I searched everywhere and can't seem t find the Ace Hack Kit IRC chat you speak of.
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Yes
I NEVER flash radios no matter what rom I use or what radio it recommends. If I recall radios are dependant on your area. I tried flashing recommended radio from a rom and got completely ****TY service so I went back to my stock. Now I flash no radio no matter what the rom recomends.
Reinaldo33897 said:
Yes
I NEVER flash radios no matter what rom I use or what radio it recommends. If I recall radios are dependant on your area. I tried flashing recommended radio from a rom and got completely ****TY service so I went back to my stock. Now I flash no radio no matter what the rom recomends.
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Well the reason I wanted to try the recommended radio is because the one I have (had) gave me poor reception. But maybe there's nothing I can do about that.
Stats are:
Android Version 2.3.5
HTC Sense Version 3.5
Android Revolution HD 7.0.3
Kernel 2.6.35.14-RCMIX3D-ACS-ACE-NCR-V11.1-ge213fe7-dirty
Baseband Version 12.56.60.25P_26.10.04.03_M
SilentAssailant said:
Well the reason I wanted to try the recommended radio is because the one I have (had) gave me poor reception. But maybe there's nothing I can do about that.
Stats are:
Android Version 2.3.5
HTC Sense Version 3.5
Android Revolution HD 7.0.3
Kernel 2.6.35.14-RCMIX3D-ACS-ACE-NCR-V11.1-ge213fe7-dirty
Baseband Version 12.56.60.25P_26.10.04.03_M
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Yes, thereĀ“s something you can do. I have actually flashed radios more than once...but this is the way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106324
I joined #ace
Is that the correct channel? There were quite a few people in the chat but nobody was active and nobody would reply.
SilentAssailant said:
I joined #ace
Is that the correct channel? There were quite a few people in the chat but nobody was active and nobody would reply.
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the channel is #aahkSupport
thatis the correct. I will be back there in a couple of hours
SilentAssailant said:
Well the only reason I tried the Eng S-Off is because I was told to do so by the maker of Android Revolution in order to be able to flash a certain custom radio he suggest works best with my version 7.0.2
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Actually, you were not told to ENG S-Off your phone by mike1986 (ARHD dev). All he says is that you need ENG S-Off to flash the radio he has in his thread. 99% don't flash a radio in that way, as the others in this thread have said. Make sure you thoroughly research everthing you plan to do to your phone before you attempt it.
Here's what you need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19920345&postcount=5965

What more does one have to do to fix wifi?

Here's my "little" story on how I ended up on xda forums asking for help on wifi. TL;DR is at the bottom.
I've owned the sensation for about a year now, or so it seems. Always remained stock everything. Loved it because it felt so smooth, faster than any other phone i have owned previously with Tmo. Updated every OTA update they threw at me, had no plans to root, flash roms of the sort.
UNTIL the latest ICS update, i was a little late on receiving it. I'd say its been about a few weeks since i got ICS OTA on my STOCK sensation. Downloaded it and thought WOW awesome, didn't even expect this. Everything was good until i noticed my wifi wasn't working. This really dampened my spirits as i am a HEAVY user of wifi, weather i'm at work or at home.
I then did my research and found out i wasn't the only one with this wifi problem. Of course Tmo forums had troubleshooting tips for the blind, deaf ,and armless.
"have you tried turning it off?"
"resetting it?"
Tips that you know aren't going to help. Anyways i resorted to checking out this flashing, rom, rooting, s-offing business. Got to say i spent a whole day just going from thread to thread just to be able to grasp the idea of what i was getting myself into. After countless boxes of cheez-its and hours spent on reading up on this, i conjured up enough courage to believe i was ready.
From what i read since i had updated to ics i was not able to "s-off" using the revolutionary website because i was hboot 1.27.... yada yada
so i used i believe it was called "asskickers guide for flashing roms with s-on, 1.27 hboot.
To make this long story shorter, i followed his guide to the T.
And that abled me to have root, and flashed my first rom while S-on using smartflash with 4EXT.
I even used the rom he suggested in the guide, revolutionary HD 6.7.0 4G-XE
Everything went smooth, and the rom booted up and everything.
To my discovery my wifi still wasn't working. This really had me bouncing off the wall.
Luckily in the guide it explained that wifi would be an issue, and had a small guide on how to fix it. Flashing boot.img with the matching kernal you selected in the rom. GREAT i thought. but still, that didn't work.
I don't know if i did it wrong, i really don't think i did because i follow instuctions to the T. Or so i think.
Anyways.
Did more research and found out that most S-On users had the wifi problem beacuse of the Dev unlock only unlocking certain. Sorry for my bad wording, lets not forget I'm a first timer.
Anyways after reading about that i assumed i had to go S-off now. SO i used Juopunutbear S-OFF (HBOOT 1.27.0000 with 3.32 ICS Firmware) method.
I used this method and how challenging it was with that paper clip wire trick it was to get it. I swear it took me at least 20 tries, but finally got it and succesfully got S-off to show on the white screen, bootloader i believe its called.
So after i got s-off i reinstalled the rom, whiped everything and re-flashed it.
Still no luck on wifi. So now this has me crawling at my knees begging what more could i do to fix this wifi nightmare of mine. PLEASE if anyone could help, i'd be forever thankful.
AS of right now i am...
Unlocked Dev
S-off
Hboot - 1.27.0000
Android version - 4.0.3
Htc sense - 3.6
ROM - Android Revolution HD 6.7.0 4G-XE
Kernel - 3.0.16-v1.30.2 Sebastion FM#1
Baseband version - 11.69A.3504.00P_11.23.3504.07_M2
Build number - 3.32.531.14 CL356011
TL;DR My wifi is still not working after I feel that i've done all that i can. ANY suggestions would help. Please and thanks you.
Thanks to anyone that actually reads all of this sort of rant of mine.
Question: what do you mean wifi is broken? Do you mean it doesn't turn on or it doesn't find any networks or what?
Sent from my commodore 64 running android 4.1
Hmm simple.. Solution is there.. Let's see
You have unlocked the bootloader after soff.. You should not do that.. After soff you can flash engineering hboot.. Which comes with soff method.. (juopunutbear/revolutionary) which are much much better than the unlocked hboot
Ok
Now to the point
Try the tmous ruu..
Ruu = rom update utility.. The official one of HTC
Search for pyramid shipped rom collections.. Thread in sensation development section.. And get the pyramid ics.. Ruu of tmobile
And run it...
It's an exe file so.. Just double click on it
But remember.. As you have done unlock of bootloader.. You need to re lock it first (fastboot oem lock)
Also you need to connect the phone to pc... From bootloader/fastboot ( phone reads fastboot usb after this)
Then run the ruu.. It should solve your wifi issue
Sent from my pyramid.. Through blazing fast sonic waves
@sy22
it does that whole "turning on wifi..." then it goes to error after a while.
@ganeshp
Thanks thanks thanks a bunch, i'll be doing this today and see if it solves my long and twisted journey. :fingers-crossed:
If that doesnt work then it could be a hardware fault. I used to have wifi issues and after flashing a whole bunch of roms and seeing it still failing to turn on, I gave up and S-ON'd my sensation and sent in to repairs and have had no problems since
IT could be hardware problems but the thing that gets me is that my wifi has always worked.
Like i said i've owned it for about a year now or so it feels, and i've never had problems with it until that OTA update to ICS.
but if all fails then i'll throw in the towel and undo all this mess and send it in i suppose.
ganeshp said:
Hmm simple.. Solution is there.. Let's see
You have unlocked the bootloader after soff.. You should not do that.. After soff you can flash engineering hboot.. Which comes with soff method.. (juopunutbear/revolutionary) which are much much better than the unlocked hboot
Ok
Now to the point
Try the tmous ruu..
Ruu = rom update utility.. The official one of HTC
Search for pyramid shipped rom collections.. Thread in sensation development section.. And get the pyramid ics.. Ruu of tmobile
And run it...
It's an exe file so.. Just double click on it
But remember.. As you have done unlock of bootloader.. You need to re lock it first (fastboot oem lock)
Also you need to connect the phone to pc... From bootloader/fastboot ( phone reads fastboot usb after this)
Then run the ruu.. It should solve your wifi issue
Sent from my pyramid.. Through blazing fast sonic waves
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Alrighty I did just this exactly.
Ran RUU_PYRAMID_ICS_TMOUS_3.32.531.14_Radio_11.69A.3504.00U_11.23.3504.07_M2_release_256085_signed
let it complete to the last step. phone rebooted and still no wifi
i hate to be such trouble, but if anyone has anymore suggestions, i'd appreciate it.
Thanks again to anyone who reads,replies with suggestions.
Am now showing in the white screen-
***relocked***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.27.0000
RADIO-11.23.3504.07_M2
openADSP-v02.6.0.2226.00.0131
eMMC-boot

[Q] Ask a Stupid (Firmware) Question

Okay....so I need to twiddle around with my trusty old HOX in order to solve the constant rebooting issues. (I also want to jump ship off of the memory-heavy Viper Venom that's on it to just straight CM or something similarly light weight)
To do that I've got to update the firmware.
And to do that... first I have to identify what bloody firmware I have so that I use the correct updating method and don't brick my one and only device.
I'm not a total noob... I've been working on a beginner/moderate level with Android for 3 years now... I can get around ADB (typos not withstanding) reasonably well, push commands, get to hboot, know fastboot and such... but I am just not finding the specific answers I need right this moment to get this work done. So if Someone can point me in the proper direction, I would be muchly appreciative.
Right Now my bootloader screen says the following
Tampered
Unlocked
Evita PVT Ship S-ON RLHboot 1.09.0000
Radio 0.20os.32.09.10_2
OpenDSP-v31.1.0.45.0815
eMMC-boot
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So, who can tell me which firmware version contains Hboot1.09? Once I know that, I can start the process of SuperCID and S-OFF to make these updates. Barring that, anyone who can point me to a one-click unlock tool would be great too... the ones I find on the first few pages of the forum all recommend firmware newer than what I know is installed on here according to the above into, and I am leery to use them for risk of bricking my one and only phone.
Your current firmware is actually irrelevant, you need not worry about that at all. All you need to do is get s-off, which should be a sinch. Because you don't have SuperCID (I'm assuming from your last paragraph) you really only have one option, which is the Rumrunner method. It should work with Viper installed, if not it has a good success rate with the Kickdroid ROM.
Rumrunner S-off
Sent from my Evita
So I did have SuperCID... a readCID command demonstrated that.
and thanks to your assuaging my fears, timmaaaa, I was able to flash to 2.15 without a problem.
the problem now... is even after pushing TWRP every way I know how, I can't get into recovery, even with fastboot erase cache. ugh I feel like yanking my hair out.
but at least the phone hasn't randomly slowed down or rebooted since flashing the new firmware. (and the pesky double-reboot that made flashing it such a core in the first place is fixed too)
::edit:: gonna spend the next hour redownloading the venom ro so I can push the boot.img file, maybe that will fix things.
Did you check the md5 of the recovery download?
Sent from my Evita
timmaaa said:
Did you check the md5 of the recovery download?
Sent from my Evita
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Yes I did. I also tried to install it via a few onboard solutions like goo.im. no go. it says it's been installed, fastboot insists the phone is unlocked and s-off; but it boots to the flash screen, tries to load recovery, fails, and reboots to the rom.
I am going to assume that the unlock is fubar somehow and start from scratch by installing 2.20 and using the HTC unlock, and go from there.
now if only damned downloads didn't take 5 hours on my slow rural connections... thank you isp conglomeracy.

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