Does anyone know the full LTE frequency support of AT&T, i see the skyrocket is 700 and the vivid is 700, 1700... is that all AT&T supports? Because i might get the Samsung Galaxy S 2 HD LTE when it comes out and was wondering if that would be picked up by AT&T's network
joshuadjohnson22 said:
Does anyone know the full LTE frequency support of AT&T, i see the skyrocket is 700 and the vivid is 700, 1700... is that all AT&T supports? Because i might get the Samsung Galaxy S 2 HD LTE when it comes out and was wondering if that would be picked up by AT&T's network
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galaxy s 2 hd lte IS the skyrocket.
AT&T's LTE network is both 700 (current) and 1700 (future planned after T-Mobile acquisition is complete from what I understand). In terms of bands it's LTE band 4 (1700) and band 17 (700).
I highly advise against getting the SGS2 HD LTE (which is NOT the skyrocket) as it is designed to operate on LTE 800. The most you can get out of it would be HSPA+ on AT&T's network.
edit: I've been doing tons of research at this point as my xmas 2011 upgrade has to have LTE, HD display and NFC (optional but desired) and that basically boils it down the either the Galaxy Nexus, a LTE device from Bell Canada and/or anything that AT&T decides to officially launch. I really don't understand why Samsung/AT&T didn't just release the HD LTE to begin with as I went and used the demo unit of the Skyrocket and everything on screen just looks ridiculously large due to poor resolution at 480x800
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galaxy s 2 hd lte IS the skyrocket.
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nope its different, yeah i really like it, the LTE would be a plus, to me the big feature is the HD screen, that would be AMAZING! i was hoping the skyrocket would be the LTE HD i would have bought that SO fast!!! Thanks for all the replies to me H+ is worth it for the HD screen, i was just wondering if at&t's network might pick up the 800 OR maybe samsung will release a US version... only time will tell
p.s. not really a fan of the nexus, i want gorilla glass and LOVE how the galaxy devices are... we will see
I would like to know as well. The HD LTE version looks better and has a dedicated home button. Will it work on AT&T LTE?
Seems my response may have been too technical.
No it won't work.
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It does operate on GSM but I don't know if t-mobile's HSDPA network would be compatible. I'm so disappointed that there are no good android phones announced for t-mobile at CES
Actually rumor has it that the LG Optimus 2x will be coming to T-Mobile.
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It does operate on GSM but I don't know if t-mobile's HSDPA network would be compatible. I'm so disappointed that there are no good android phones announced for t-mobile at CES
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I'm more interested in the higher resolution screen of the atrix
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I'm more interested in the higher resolution screen of the atrix
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And the monster battery.
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No. I am assuming that Motorola didn't pentaband this phone and you are stuck to using EDGE if you are on T-Mobile.
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix-3709.php
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
I don't know about US but this means it will work on every Australian carrier, toot!
That sucks. I'm on Mobilcity in Canada and I hope to give my G1 to my dad and get a Atrix if it comes to t-mobile.
It sucks that t-mobile always gets lame phones.
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T-Mobile Compromise on great phones
T-Mobile ranks 4th (practically Last Place) in US because they hardly ever get the latest great phones. They always are a step or two below what the top 3 have. Atrix for AT&T but Cliq-2 for T-Mo!!! what a difference. I've been with T-Mo for over 7 years & every time a great phone is announced I want to switch carrier and I finally decided to switch in order to get the Atrix. Hope, Moto learn from Samsung Galaxy & start releasing it to all carriers.
Tmobile was the first GHZ phone in the US, the ever popular HD2 anyone, which is still alive and kicking even today.
Just wait a few months. AT&T acquired tmobile and will be fully integrated by December (rumoured).
seriously ive been wondering about this for a while now, and im just wondering which is truly better. HSPA+ or LTe? post speedtest pictures please...
Starseed said:
Idk... Look it up online.
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There are plenty of quotes on the boards, search is your friend.
It varies vastly by region. LTE is semi-consistent at 30Mbps+. HSPA+ can be anywhere from 1Mbps to 11Mbps. If LTE is available its the fastest connection available. But, its on limited markets on att.
Right now, lte is faster than hspa+ by around 10mbps (of course this can vary greatly). The difference is that lte is has much more potential. So in time, it's better to have an lte phone. But right now they are fairly comparable
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I see... Cause i really want lte but still want power like the original s2...
Starseed said:
I see... Cause i really want lte but still want power like the original s2...
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Yeah, the i777 is the best, most powerful phone on att. Maybe the Galaxy S III will have LTE, or maybe a Note with LTE. There was just a FCC application for a Galaxy Note with LTE on att bands, but isn't proof it will actually hit att subsidized.
The Vivid is supposed to be nice, but its crickets in the dev forum, they only got the bootloader unlocked a few days ago. That will probably be the best bet for LTE phone.
The Skyrocket is just different enough it will stay forever in obscurity. The Nitro HD is a normal LG phone on att ... good build quality, poor dev draw, and don't plan on timely updates.
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Another thing on LTE, if you are on the old unlimited plan tons of people are getting throttled down to near zero, sometimes at less than 2 GB. So all that speed is wasted, and anyone that knows enough to know they want the extra speed will probably not get to use it for long.
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Yeah, the i777 is the best, most powerful phone on att. Maybe the Galaxy S III will have LTE, or maybe a Note with LTE. There was just a FCC application for a Galaxy Note with LTE on att bands, but isn't proof it will actually hit att subsidized.
The Vivid is supposed to be nice, but its crickets in the dev forum, they only got the bootloader unlocked a few days ago. That will probably be the best bet for LTE phone.
The Skyrocket is just different enough it will stay forever in obscurity. The Nitro HD is a normal LG phone on att ... good build quality, poor dev draw, and don't plan on timely updates.
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Actually the skyrocket has an amazing dev community..mostly because of the fact that it can use the ROM's and Kernels of the T-mobile SGSII. And there is talk that it may be pentaband...the Radio's are interchangable as well.
Well this is interesting. How much are your guys speeds, and how much is your skyrocket if you have one?
are LTE network compatible with 4G? or LTE phones compatible with HSPDA+ phones? in other words, LTE phones and HSPDA+ phones work on different network or LTE phones can also receive HSPDA+ 4G data (functions)?
So i have read that T-mobile is getting LTE in 2013. Do that mean i have to get a new phone again, i wonder if my GS2 will get faster on the new network. And where the hell is my ICS update? This suppose to be their best phone as of now.
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are LTE network compatible with 4G? or LTE phones compatible with HSPDA+ phones? in other words, LTE phones and HSPDA+ phones work on different network or LTE phones can also receive HSPDA+ 4G data (functions)?
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LTE & HSPDA+ are both classified as '4G' but are different, incompatible systems.
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azumis said:
So i have read that T-mobile is getting LTE in 2013. Do that mean i have to get a new phone again, i wonder if my GS2 will get faster on the new network. And where the hell is my ICS update?
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Your phone will not run on LTE. But T-Mobile's HSTPS+ network is pretty fast and will be in operation for years to come, longer than you'll keep your present phone.
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so HSPDA+ and LTE has different network? LTE phones cannot receive HSPDA+ networks?
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Your phone will not run on LTE. But T-Mobile's HSTPS+ network is pretty fast and will be in operation for years to come, longer than you'll keep your present phone.
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what is HSTPS+ ? news says t-mobile is moving to LTE. currently released phone are HSPDA+ , so all the phones will not work with that?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...r-LTE-leaves-82Mbps-HSPA-plans-behind_id27474
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what is HSTPS+ ?
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A typo.
t-mobile is moving to LTE. currently released phone are HSPDA+ , so all the phones will not work with that?
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Present HSPDA+ phones will not work with LTE. I suppose some future phones may be capable of HSPDA+ and LTE. But my next phone will be HSPDA+. It will be around a long time, it's pretty fast and uses less battery power anyway.
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I need one. I am currently halfway through a 2 year Verizon LTE contract (pre-ordered the Thunderbolt, stupid me but at least I have unlimited data) but would buy an unsubsidized phone if necessary. I will be in East/Southeast Asia, Aus, Eastern and Western Europe.
Currently I'm thinking flagship phone with LTE + Quad Band GSM. The only viable options right now seems to be the Droid 4 (releasing next week) or the Verizon LTE Samsung Galaxy S 2. It seems like the Verizon LTE Galaxy Nexus does not have quad band GSM, although international versions do (but I want LTE when I'm in the states). The HTC Sensation does not have LTE, the Rezound lacks quad band GSM.
The other option is buy a used device solely for international travel. Maybe the Droid 3, HTC Sensation or Desire or even a Samsung Galaxy S.
Does anyone here know how much the decision to tune to lots of bands affects performance, call quality and battery life? I will not be carrying a computer or a tablet, so my phone is my lifeline. Also, if anyone has a Droid 3, what major countries does it NOT work in?
Just for reference, this is no Verizon Samsung GSII.
Hi There!
I was just in the US for 9 days, and bought a 30 day prepaid plan thinking that because it said I could have 4G I would actually get 4G Speeds. I was only able to get Edge Speeds anywhere I went, and it was pretty horrible.
I logged 2 support chat incidents the first guy was clueless, the second person said they don't give 4g speeds to non T-Mobile provided devices which I thought was pretty crappy.
Is there a software workaround to allow 4G speeds on Android devices purchased from other providers? My phone is an international unlocked device (NZ) and I can get H+ Speeds in Countries like Australia with no issues.
Anyone who could shed some light would be appreciated.
If it was a T-mobile prepaid card that was probably your issue. T-mobile utilizes different frequencies (AWS 1700 band) than almost all other GSM carriers. So if you do not have a t-mobile branded, or a pentaband phone you are only able to get edge speeds. Next time get prepaid AT&T and you will be good to go.
Yah it was a Prepaid Simcard and then a $30 card from Walmart delivered Electronically. I forgot to state I was using a Galaxy S2. Hard to comprehend it not supporting the 4G considering it's a device T-Mobile sell (Though it has slightly different spec's in terms of screen size and button configuration so potentially it could I guess support additional bands.
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Yah it was a Prepaid Simcard and then a $30 card from Walmart delivered Electronically. I forgot to state I was using a Galaxy S2. Hard to comprehend it not supporting the 4G considering it's a device T-Mobile sell (Though it has slightly different spec's in terms of screen size and button configuration so potentially it could I guess support additional bands.
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The international SGSII (I9100) and the AT&T SGSII (I777) do not support T-mobile 3G or 4G. The Skyrocket and the T-mobile SGSII (Hercules) are pentaband phones that support both AT&T and T-mobile 4G. The reason for this is the Exynos processor which does not support the AWS bands. That is why the skyrocket and hercules come with the snapdragon processor.
Thanks for the reply, at least now I know. ATT doesn't seem to have anything similar to T-Mobile in so far as you get 5GB 4G, unlimited calling and texting for $30, are ATT generally more expensive?
Thanks.
Att is generally more expensive yes. But as someone already mentioned, Tmobile uses aws band which is different than almost all others for 4g. So you have to weigh your options
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Hello, I am officially considering getting T-Mobile Unlimited 4G service and want to know the entire array of devices I can choose from before committing to a purchase. I have been researching here and
elsewhere across the internet for days intensively and have answered some of my questions. I'm a bit obsessive about my choice of tech and think it would be useful to compile a list of all devices that will
fit my demands:
I demand full 42Mbps HSPA+ (if it only goes to 21, 14, 7.2 or less, I am NOT interested; Portland,OR has 42 service as far as I know) support on either AWS: 1700/2100, PCS: 1900/? (refarmed) or both. As for
LTE...I am less certain on how this will mesh with their refarming plans and with current/future devices. Ideally, my device will be able to choose between HSPA+ now and LTE in the future, but I can accept
just HSPA+ and would still like to see those devices included in this discussion. I am interested in devices T-Mobile sells directly, AT&T devices that could be unlocked for Magenta, international version
imports and any other devices that could be made to work.
Questions:
1. Is T-Mobile going to migrate ALL of their current HSPA+ coverage off of AWS and onto PCS? How quickly? Any downsides to having a device that supports one band but not the other?
2. What will the LTE situation be like? What bands/compatibilities would make a device future proofed for their upcoming network? Which devices have/will have it?
So far, I have confirmed (I think?) that the following devices support at least 42Mpbs HSPA+ on the AWS (1700/2100) band (exception noted):
HTC Amaze 4G
HTC One S
Google (LG) Nexus 4 (possible unofficial LTE support on Tmo via software tweak)
Samsung Galaxy Note (SGH-T879 T-Mobile version)
Samsung Galaxy Note II (SGH-T889 T-Mobile version; also possible future access to LTE on Tmo)
Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G
Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G (SGH-T699 T Mobile version), with QWERTY Keyboard
Samsung Galaxy SII (SGH-I757M for Telus, SGH-T989 for T-Mobile)
Samsung Galaxy S III (SGH-T999 T-Mobile version)
Sony Xperia ion HSPA (lt28h, international unlocked version)
Sony Xperia T (LT30a; also possible future access to LTE on Tmo)
I would love to update this post and expand the list as confirmations come in; I have mostly just researched higher end devices so plenty of older/midrange devices could also fit the criteria. Thanks to all who contribute:laugh:! I hope this info can help others as well.
Is it the Xperia ion LTE lt28i/lt28at or the lt28h that has full t-mobile lte?
The tmo blaze, sii, sensation and amaze also support 42+
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Is it the Xperia ion LTE lt28i/lt28at or the lt28h that has full t-mobile lte?
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As far as I can tell, the Xperia ion HSPA (lt28h) is the only ion that supports the HSPA+ 42 speeds. The other devices are the LTE variants for AT&T and international.
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The tmo blaze, sii, sensation and amaze also support 42+
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I can find no evidence that the HTC Sensation 4G supports full 42Mbps, only up to 14.4Mbps according to this review: PCMag review (can't post links:crying
I added all others you listed, thanks!:highfive:
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As far as I can tell, the Xperia ion HSPA (lt28h) is the only ion that supports the HSPA+ 42 speeds. The other devices are the LTE variants for AT&T and international.
I can find no evidence that the HTC Sensation 4G supports full 42Mbps, only up to 14.4Mbps according to this review: PCMag review (can't post links:crying
I added all others you listed, thanks!:highfive:
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My mistake, you are correct about the Sensation. I apologize for the error.
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The Sony Xperia T LT30A Unlocked version is compatible on T-Mobile's HSPA+ network (both current AWS spectrum and the new re-farmed 1900mHz spectrum). It also has LTE radio that will operate on the future T-Mobile AWS spectrum (1700/2100) that will be reserved for LTE once the "re-farming" project is complete. Finally, it is HSPA+ 42Mbps capable. I may get one of these myself if the price is right.
Also, I can't believe no one has listed one of the most obvious ones... the Nexus 4! Not available on Play Store but still can be found on eBay for a slightly (or sometimes really) inflated price.
Galaxy S Relay
PhotonTorpedo said:
Hello, I am officially considering getting T-Mobile Unlimited 4G service and want to know the entire array of devices I can choose from before committing to a purchase. I have been researching here and
elsewhere across the internet for days intensively and have answered some of my questions. I'm a bit obsessive about my choice of tech and think it would be useful to compile a list of all devices that will
fit my demands:
I demand full 42Mbps HSPA+ (if it only goes to 21, 14, 7.2 or less, I am NOT interested; Portland,OR has 42 service as far as I know) support on either AWS: 1700/2100, PCS: 1900/? (refarmed) or both. As for
LTE...I am less certain on how this will mesh with their refarming plans and with current/future devices. Ideally, my device will be able to choose between HSPA+ now and LTE in the future, but I can accept
just HSPA+ and would still like to see those devices included in this discussion. I am interested in devices T-Mobile sells directly, AT&T devices that could be unlocked for Magenta, international version
imports and any other devices that could be made to work.
Questions:
1. Is T-Mobile going to migrate ALL of their current HSPA+ coverage off of AWS and onto PCS? How quickly? Any downsides to having a device that supports one band but not the other?
2. What will the LTE situation be like? What bands/compatibilities would make a device future proofed for their upcoming network? Which devices have/will have it?
So far, I have confirmed (I think?) that the following devices support at least 42Mpbs HSPA+ on the AWS (1700/2100) band (exception noted):
Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G (SGH-T699 T Mobile version), with QWERTY Keyboard
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I added some for you next to Samsung Galaxy S Relay.
Keep up the good work,
Casper Young