Should I return my OG galaxy s2 that I just got about a week ago for the skyrocket? I heard the OG Galaxys2 is still faster because3 of the Exynos processor. Need some advice on which phone is faster/better.
I think there is already like 4 other threads about this haha. I think it really boils down to whether you have LTE in your area or not. I have LTE where I live and made the switch, LTE is so fast that it was well worth the switch. The Exynos vs Snapdragon debate is a little played out and doesn't make as big of a difference in the phone as many are making it out to be, my Skyrocket is just as fast in real life day to day usage. Should we assume you are thinking of returning your OG GSII before your 30 day window of opportunity? Are you expecting to get LTE soon?
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I think there is already like 4 other threads about this haha. I think it really boils down to whether you have LTE in your area or not. I have LTE where I live and made the switch, LTE is so fast that it was well worth the switch. The Exynos vs Snapdragon debate is a little played out and doesn't make as big of a difference in the phone as many are making it out to be, my Skyrocket is just as fast in real life day to day usage. Should we assume you are thinking of returning your OG GSII before your 30 day window of opportunity? Are you expecting to get LTE soon?
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Im within the 30 days yes. I live in Toledo, Oh so I have no clue when we would get LTE coverage in my area.
Without LTE I would have stuck with my original GSII, I like the 4.3" screen a little better
Everyone will say that it depends on the person and their needs/wants. But then again, you are posting in Skyrocket forum...
I returned my $200 SGS2 and walked out with 2 Skyrockets for $300. One for me and the wife. If there wasnt that deal, I would probably stick with the SGS2. Both almost the same size, might as well get a bigger screen.
As for speed, they're both still fast. A hairline in bench marks didnt bother me. Resolutions still decent- some people exagerate about its low quality. Heck, I'm a graphic designer and photographer, I'm good with the resolution. Phone is usually a foot away from my face anyhow. Also, I'm not really much a gamer, but I do love my tower defense games (Sentinel 3 is awesome with a bigger screen).
My opinion, SGS2 has better screen quality, better 3D graphics, (insanely better? no. but technically better). Skyrocket has weird issue with their screens in dim lighting with neutral grays (doesnt bother me, I not at dim or looking at neutral grays). Some encounter problems, some look for it. Would I go back to SGS2 if it was the same price? No.
Why Skyrocket (for me): Bigger screen, faster internet speed. Use internet more than anything, play games where a bigger screen would be nicer.
If I had the opportunity, I would probably get the Skyrocket. The larger screen is magnificent. While the exynos variant gets better development support, the real world differences between the two are likely negligible. Most people I've seen say that there isn't much difference, others say they notice. Initially, I made the decision to keep my original GS2. A short time after my 30 day window passed, I kind of regretted it. Either one will be an excellent choice. I just want the larger screen. I may buy it outright just for the heck of it.
I had the S2 and exchanged it for the SR being as I was in my 30 return window.
I like the phone much better. The extra screen size for me is a plus, I don't notice the pixelation other people talk about.
For what I do with the phone I don't notice the difference in processors. I really think a lot of people put too much stock in the benchmarks just to say their phone is faster that your's. Faster benchmarks mean nothing to 90+% of phone users being as most people never probably use a fraction of the processor speed anyway.
My only issue is that although I live in an LTE area, I am on the fringe of the LTE coverage and often it will hover on lower bars of reception on LTE where as HSPA would give me full bars. You would think I would get a bit better reception with LTE being as it is a lower freq with better building penetration.
I really wish there was a way to turn off the LTE radio and stick with HSPA if I wanted to. When I am in a deep LTE coverage area it is fine, but where I live at I would prefer to keep it on HSPA to maintain a better signal and battery life. I am not into rooting, and I am sure when the ability to turn off LTE comes out it will probably be for custom ROMs.
I know it is a contridiction to want an LTE device and want to run it on HSPA, but until they convert a few more towers in my fringe area, HSPA is fine. Also at home I am always on my WiFi.
One thing I did notice, which is wierd. SMS and MMS send much faster on LTE than on HSPA. I can actually notice how much faster it is.
But I did want to be a bit more future proof and have the latest phone. Of course I can't remember keeping a phone over a year anyway. I am sure there will be a Galaxy S 3 out by the time LTE starts getting built out a bit more.
I'd do the exchange you get a bigger screen and more CPU power. I'm not in an lte area and haven't noticed any difference still get great speeds.. I did the exchange your talking about
Thanks for all the help. I think im gonna keep the OG galaxy2 just because I have no idea when I will have LTE
much more dev support on og sgsII
I had the original Galaxy S2 but took it back because of some dead pixels and Mini USB port was very loose and was causing disconnect with the slightest movement. I loved the original Galaxy S2 my only complaints about it would be the battery life, loose mini USB connection (bad design I feel) and it was too thin for me. I don’t have the biggest hands in the world but the phone was not comfortable to me in the hands.
I did see all the comments about how the skyrocket would not be beneficial unless you were in a LTE network and also since the proc in the GS2 seems to be outperforming the proc in the skyrocket it didn’t make since to purchase it in addition to that it had a worse battery life.
I don’t do a lot of gaming so the proc was not a huge concern to me and even though LTE is not available in my area they explained it still connected faster on the networks. I tested the both phones at att and at my house. The GS2 connected on average at a 1.2 Mbps while the skyrocket on average was 3.2 Mbps. It was nearly doubled. So even though you may not have LTE in your area you will still see some benefits with LTE technology. However my battery life was even worse on the skyrocket. This is because I am downloading files via torrent on both phones when testing them.
I rooted my phone removed all the crap At&t loaded and also removed some auto starts up applications. Now my phone works very well. Out of box I though it was slow compared the GS2. Now it seems to be working fine and performance wise I cannot tell the difference.
Quadrant scores were very close to the same. Out of box my score on the GS2 was on average 2900 with the sky rocket it was 2500. After freeing up some memory and disabling LTE by connecting to wifi vs LTE to upload my info my scores were anywhere from 34426 to 3633!
Those of you with Skyrocket phones I am curious to know what your quadrent scores are. Here is how I improved my scores and tested between none LTE and LTE connection. I downloaded root uninstaller and removed all the crap Att installed and then downloaded start up manager and ran only a few apps. After a clean reboot I then connected to wifi opended task manager and exited all programs and cleared ram before each test. Ran quadrent 5 times and wrote down my scores (3573, 3429, 3633, 3459, 3426) on wifi. Disconnected wifi and let LTE connect. Cleared ram and cleared programs again then ran the tests on LTE my scores were (3075,2045, 2312, 3104, 2287).
My question to all the developers is can LTE be taking up a lot of the proc speed during benchmark test and this is why people are claiming the SG2 is outperforming the proc in the skyrocket? Also can anyone develop a toggle to turn off LTE? I think this will free up the unnecessary stress on the proc for those who don’t have LTE networks in their area and also increase battery life.
So fare I am happy with the Skyrocket. What I liked is the not so thin rounded back that feels a lot better in the hands while holding in landscape mode. Performance wise I did not notice any difference between the two phones (after tweaking). Battery life the GS2 was better. Connection speed on the skyrocket was nearly doubled even though LTE not available in my area. The screen was noticeably bigger at a first glance compared to the GS2. The mini usb connection is a lot more secure and is not wobbly on the skyrocket, even the displays at the store had a wobbly loose connection. Viewing angle was better on the Skyrocket and it did not have the blueish tint when viewing at a angle like the GS2 did. I go through At&t and the GS2 did not come with a headset, the skyrocket came with a headset as well as a smaller power adapter similar to the square iphone power adapter. I hope this helps those of you trying to decide if you want to buy the GS2 or the Skyrocket. Let me know if you have any questions.
Hello to all.
New Android user here, coming from Iphone 3GS. Finally was eligible for AT&T upgrade, and decided to go Android. Took advantage of the $99 Target deal for the Galaxy S2. I wanted to the skyrocket, but they didn't have it in the store yet. Told me to get the GS2 for now, learn Android in the meantime, and later on swap out for Skyrocket when available. I was afraid of losing my grandfathered unlimited data plan, so didn't want to order online. AT&T was too pricey for the Skyrocket ($249)
So, have the GS2 for now and trying to flatten the Android learning curve. But as I'm in my 30 day window, I am lurking here finding out how you guys like the Skyrocket.
My eyesight isn't getting any better (late 50's) so the bigger the screen the better, but don't want to be trying to put a tablet in my pocket.
Was a jailbreaker on the iphone, and consider myself an old hacker in pc world, so probably will be getting into rooting, and rom's eventually. For now just trying to learn Android without taking on too much at once. I hope the Skyrocket development will pick up like I see for the GS2. No hurry for now!
Don't have LTE in my area yet. But it seems like the Skyrocket does better on HSPA than the GS2. Little nervous reading that AT&T doesn't seem to honor the "unlimited" plans for LTE. And no way to turn it off on the Skyrocket. Maybe this will be possible in future ROMs?
After reading all your informative replies, I believe I am still leaning to swapping out the GS2 for the Skyrocket.
Nice to see that these forums are so active with so many helpful folks!
Nice to be here!!
Another one of these threads....
SGS2 is outdated now. Especially since LTE will be rolling out all over the place next year. My phone is OC'ed to 1.83mhz and I can tell you it is noticeably faster than my old s2. This phone is most likely to get ICS before any other at&t phone also. Out with the old, in with the new.
Skyrocket is superior
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Another one of these threads....
SGS2 is outdated now. Especially since LTE will be rolling out all over the place next year. My phone is OC'ed to 1.83mhz and I can tell you it is noticeably faster than my old s2. This phone is most likely to get ICS before any other at&t phone also. Out with the old, in with the new.
Skyrocket is superior
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ogs2 already has ICS.
Yes a buggy unofficial version
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That is true..
I will be keeping my SR... I had them side by side.. and the SR is a superior phone ... all my issues are solved...
I take back all my nasty comments!
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A few first impressions.. coming from a Sprint Evo 4g.. for others in the same position considering switching over.
First.. the amoled screen is not too impressive.. at least compared to the evo's screen.. YES the contrast is a little better but the pixel density is not even close to as good.. if your holding the phone any closer than 8 or so inches from your eyes.. which I do normally.. you can definitely see pixels .. and it's kinda ridiculous only because all the online reviews and forums touting the display as being just about the best out there.
Aside from the display the phone OWNS the EVO.. at least in my opinion. I'm in Eugene Oregon and Sprints WImax/4g is available here but is not quick.. my speedtest scores with the evo were never above 4mbps and usually under 2mbps... with the Galaxy 4g my speedtest scores are almost never under 4mbps.. and sitting in my home I usually range from at least 5mpbs or better.. my fastest score was 12mbps.. THATS INSANE. One thing I never hear discussed in reviews is Latency/Ping ... I think this adds to the snappyness of cruising the internet or other applications that use an internet connection on a phone... and the TMOBILE Kicks every other carrier's 4g butts in this regard.. the ping/latency ranges between 60-100 on my galaxy 4g vs. 200 or higher on the evo/Sprints 4g. THe ping on Tmobiles 4g is just about the same as my Comcast cable .. that's awesome.
The phone iteslf hardware wise at this point seems to have better battery life and seems to be faster in general opening programs and multitasking than on my Evo.. and I even had custom firmware focused on speed and battery life to improve this.
Hopefully after owning the phone for the 14 days I still feel the same. One thing Sprint has at least in my area is damn good coverage.... My only issue with it was I really thought the 4g was disappointing and the phone was a bit bulky and battery life was usually pretty bad.
haha... my thoughts exacly. well put!
Aside from being pissed by the 1x at the top of the screen I was able to do everything I wanted to do. Sent text messages all day on Google Talk and Skype, downloaded the Amazon free app of the day (business calendar) in about 40 seconds. Updated a few other apps in about a min., received and responded to multiple emails all day long, uploaded a pic to facebook with no problems, And made calls... All on 1x!
Well there is a much bigger difference between 1x and 3G than there is between 3G and 4G…. So why would I ever sacrifice battery life on this device for that difference?
Crazy!
Unless you are using your phone for internet access for your PC via tether… I think everyone is just wasting battery life for nothing.
Then you bought the wrong phone. Better luck next time.
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Then you bought the wrong phone. Better luck next time.
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I did not buy the wrong phone at all!! I love the speed of the phone for running the apps. I love the screen, the 8MP cam, the great front facing cam. I bought this phone because it could run the Android OS very fast and smooth. Not at all for 4G.
Are you telling me you bought this phone just for the 4G???? If that’s the case I think I bought the phone for much better reasons than you did!
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I did not buy the wrong phone at all!! I love the speed of the phone for running the apps. I love the screen, the 8MP cam, the great front facing cam. I bought this phone because it could run the Android OS very fast and smooth. Not at all for 4G.
Are you telling me you bought this phone just for the 4G???? If that’s the case I think I bought the phone for much better reasons than you did!
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Love How Stable and Hackable HTC Phones are. Good Size screen, More Ram for Multi Tasking, Front Camera, Kickstand. This thing is a Beast Overclocked. Im Not in a 4g City bit when I go out of town (Which I do Often) 4G Is just Icing on the Cake.
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I did not buy the wrong phone at all!! I love the speed of the phone for running the apps. I love the screen, the 8MP cam, the great front facing cam. I bought this phone because it could run the Android OS very fast and smooth. Not at all for 4G.
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There are plenty of better phones out there as far as performance and features go. The Thunderbolt is an inefficient beast; in the class of smartphones, it's metaphorically similar to the 17" Desktop Replacement laptop. In other words, it's big, heavy, and very power-hungry, relative to other members of its device class.
If you had waited until the May or June launch of the Samsung phones with the Tegra 2 dual core SoC with Nvidia graphics, that thing will absolutely blow your socks off, and probably also ship with Android 2.3 or 2.4 if it's out by then. Why buy a phone still using the old PowerVR SGX core if you are crazy about graphics performance, when the SGX is just a few months away from being eclipsed by Tegra 2 phones?
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Are you telling me you bought this phone just for the 4G???? If that’s the case I think I bought the phone for much better reasons than you did!
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It's the first LTE smartphone to market. Ever. Period. In the whole world. And you're telling me you bought it because it's fast? Pssh -- as far as the non-networked components go, it's basically no better than a Droid 2. It's the last model to use 2009-2010 era SoC, and the only reason it doesn't use something more cutting-edge is because the brand new chips are still being debugged and tested, and they needed a phone out in March.
The Thunderbolt has a separate radio chip for the CDMA/EvDO and the LTE. This is highly suboptimal from both a power standpoint and size/weight. Qualcomm says they can probably have chips available by early 2012 that offer both traditional CDMA, voice, and LTE in a single integrated circuit, which would also probably use smaller fabrication process technology for even less power consumption and weight. The Thunderbolt is a "hack" as far as smartphones are concerned; it's very unusual for any kind of phone to have two radios in it (even if it supports more than one radio protocol, they're usually supported together on a single chip). The phone was rushed, hence why they couldn't wait for Qualcomm to get their integrated LTE+CDMA chip together.
You can rip the Thunderbolt apart this way by looking under the hood and pointing out its many limitations and flaws. The only thing that stands out -- the only killer feature that sets this apart from the Droid 2 or any other 2010 Android-based 3G phone -- is the LTE. If not for the LTE, the Thunderbolt is just a power-hungry, heavy version of the Droid 2 (or Droid X, I guess, since it lacks a hardware keyboard too).
Since Verizon locks you in to a two year contract, you should really be planning ahead a bit unless you have $600 - $750 to sink on a retail smartphone. If you had waited for just a few more months to get the more killer "core specs" (CPU, GPU, RAM) on the phones coming out in the latter half of 2011, you would be getting the first round of the next generation of the CPU/GPU bump. And since that's what you seem to value (moreso than the bandwidth), that's probably what you should have waited for.
Now you're stuck with a phone (as am I) that will have significantly underpowered specs by the time the two year term is up -- it's entirely possible that new Android apps and games written in Q1 2013 (the last stretch of your 2 year term) will not run at all on your Thunderbolt, or lag so badly that they're unusable, because they are tuned to run on e.g. the Tegra 2 or later dual core platforms.
But I don't play games on my phone, so that doesn't matter to me. The LTE is why I value this phone so much and bought it, and since I don't exercise the CPU/GPU as highly as cellphone gamers, it probably won't matter a lick to me that in early 2013 I won't be able to play Angry Birds 3 on my Thunderbolt. I'll be satisfied that I got a full two years worth of fast LTE service, and that's what's important to me.
So just saying, if you don't care about the extra bandwidth, you made a fairly bad choice. The other aspects of the Thunderbolt are gonna be obsolete pretty quick because the non-network parts of the phone are built around a late 2009 platform, so unless you want to shell out retail when Tegra 2 phones hit, you might come to regret your purchase in about a year.
In comparison to graphics cards, it'd be like buying a Nvidia GTX 280 (supporting DirectX 10.1) a month before the Fermi cards hit the shelves (supporting DirectX 11).
Yeah guys, this was a 4G phone first and foremost. The screen, processor and ram are all average. Actually the screen is already outdated with QHD screens out. Not to mention the phone is a heavy beast with a tiny battery. Don't get me wrong I love the TB, It looks great and is fairly powerful, but the main reason I bought it was to have 4G. Now I can get rid of my cable modem. But to the point of the OP, when not tethering it actually works great with just 1x or 3G
If I didn't care about 4g I would have waited for a dual core, qhd device to come out. I wanted the Bionic which has all of the above, but they keep pushing it out amid massive development problems.
I cant download roms on the fly with Rom Manager, or update CM7-alpha while im out of the house on 1x.. thats really the only thing I saw
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It's the first LTE smartphone to market. Ever. Period. In the whole world.
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uhm...no. MetroPCS beat Verizon to the punch on that one.
HawkStream said:
Aside from being pissed by the 1x at the top of the screen I was able to do everything I wanted to do. Sent text messages all day on Google Talk and Skype, downloaded the Amazon free app of the day (business calendar) in about 40 seconds. Updated a few other apps in about a min., received and responded to multiple emails all day long, uploaded a pic to facebook with no problems, And made calls... All on 1x!
Well there is a much bigger difference between 1x and 3G than there is between 3G and 4G…. So why would I ever sacrifice battery life on this device for that difference?
Crazy!
Unless you are using your phone for internet access for your PC via tether… I think everyone is just wasting battery life for nothing.
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So sell your Thunderbolt, get a RAZR, it seems that should suit you fine. Plus then you don't have to worry about battery life.
Your post today has taught me how much I don't care about what you say.
1X for a day made me have the exact opposite realization. I live in a 4G area and I am getting so spoiled by the lighting fast speeds (sometimes faster than my home broadband connection). When I had 1X, I couldn't send MMS, browsing the web was painfully slow and it was generally all around a miserable experience.
Wasn't able to steam anything at all. No AudioGalaxy, YouTube, Hulu, other Flash content. Web browsing was ridiculously slow. Downloading and installing updates was painful.
I have missed my LTE. Sorry you don't use your phone to its full capacity but some people do. I'd rather my phone not be limited to the speed of the network. If you're cool with it, congrats.
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1X for a day made me have the exact opposite realization. I live in a 4G area and I am getting so spoiled by the lighting fast speeds (sometimes faster than my home broadband connection). When I had 1X, I couldn't send MMS, browsing the web was painfully slow and it was generally all around a miserable experience.
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So agreed! Even when I got it to go onto 3G I still was like "Ughhhhhh!" Yeah, 3G is decent, but 4G is incredible. If >10X faster doesn't make a difference to you, maybe this isn't the phone for you. I noticed the difference all day. Sure, it doesn't take that long to download an app on 3G, maybe 30 seconds to 2 minutes, but you can't tell me that waiting 2 minutes is the same experience as it happening virtually instantly. On my phone, I want things happening quickly. I wanna be able to get it out and get to what I wanted to do quickly so I'm not just standing there waiting on my phone on the sidewalk. I mean, come on, with 4G most things are practically instant -- 3G there's always some waiting. If waiting is something that's okay, maybe conventional ovens are just as good as microwaves and cable internet is just as good as fiber optic, etc.
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Can't tell; is this a troll thread?
Having a 4G thunderbolt without 4G connection was the least enjoyment i've ever got out of this phone.
I've literally been twitching from the withdrawal.
4G is a night and day difference from 3G, no questions asked.
I used Wifi at Home and Work, so I was unimpacted.
And to the one guy with the long story, true this is a 2009-2010 phone, and I ONLY bought it to lock myself into cheap 4G/LTE pricing before it gets out of control and data caps, etc...
...but unless gaming is your thing, the Thunderbolt will do 90-95% of everything you need for at least the next two years. Sure I was holding out for the Galaxy SII, and I will probably sell the TB and buy a Dual Core phone off contract with the money that I make, but that is not even an issue at this point because this phone does EVERYTHING I need.
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I used Wifi at Home and Work, so I was unimpacted.
And to the one guy with the long story, true this is a 2009-2010 phone, and I ONLY bought it to lock myself into cheap 4G/LTE pricing before it gets out of control and data caps, etc...
...but unless gaming is your thing, the Thunderbolt will do 90-95% of everything you need for at least the next two years. Sure I was holding out for the Galaxy SII, and I will probably sell the TB and buy a Dual Core phone off contract with the money that I make, but that is not even an issue at this point because this phone does EVERYTHING I need.
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I love my TB, i haven't even gotten to use 4G yet and i love it compared to my Eris. I think 3G is fast enough now that I have a phone that can handle using it lol. Also every Android phone will be obsolete after a year, this forum is proof that the hardware cannot keep up with the advancements in technology. I agree with you on selling my TB to get a phone with a Dual Core or a nicer video card but this phone gets me through the day and more using "Mobile Network" only when i need it because you don't need that sh!t on to text or call. Everyone that complains this thing is a heavy beast you are a retard imo, its a F'n phone its in your pocket and you don't feel it 95% of the day. When you hold a phone its usually for just over a minute maximum. If your holding off on the purchase of a phone because of weight you are a dumbass.
WOW at this thread lol espcially wow at the guy who said 1x was fine. I know personally I do tons of stuff that require the internet. Facebook/twitter/youtube/email/browsing. All that sucked on 1x it was like being on 56k I could only do one thing at a time and on top of that it did it slowly. Now my 4G is back I can surf the net pop over to facebook and twitter and still stream music/youtube with out missing a beat. 4G is serious
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Nope...
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uhm...no. MetroPCS beat Verizon to the punch on that one.
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+1, this is exactly what I was thinking when I read that post.
Turns out that I did care. My home WiFi happened to crap out the day before. While I did what I could to fix it, it became a lower priority with this phone. D'oh!
As to the larger issue of why buy this phone, I will chime in. Until VZW recently turned on LTE where I live, I thought it was going to be at least a year out. I was wrong. I had planned on buying a Dinc 2, as I loved my Dinc, and it would hold me out until LTE was where I was, and by then i'd have a number of choices.
Why I bought the Tbolt 2 weeks ago: 4G locked in at this price for at least 2 years. Can't predict the future, but this matters to me. Next: developer support. I don't like Moto, and devs really do an amazing job with HTC phones. I worried that the Dinc 2 would get no (or less) love. The LG and Sammy phones may turn out to be great but they are not released yet, and who knows what kind of dev support there will be.
Lastly, the sooner I upgraded (I was sitting on an early upgrade for almost a year), the sooner I can upgrade to the next or next next gen phone.
Phone has a bug or two, but no regrets at all (already rooted), and as I said I had thought my rooted Dinc was awesome.
Get a droid incredible
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Everyone has a butthole and everyone think theirs is more special than the other person but you shouldn't go around flaunting your asshole and telling others theirs should be like yours.
Considering buying the sensation this next week.
Would you buy the Sensation again - if you had the choice?
Yep.
My S4G build date was 6/2/11
Yep. I love everything about it although the screen could have been a little less... grainy shall we say. If you've seen it in person and like the screen then that won't be a problem. It's just as fast as my vibrant and thunderbolt when launching apps but it doesn't get bogged down like those two do. It just keeps chugging right along without slowing down. I've had rosie (the UI) relaunch once, and haven't been able to replicate it. It's also a dream to browse on. It might not be as smooth as a GS2 side by side but it'll pretty much blow most other handsets out of the water in that area. Gaming on it is nice too, and I find it's framerates are as good as the Galaxy S1 phones which is great especially given the extra resolution this phone has.
I can only produce the deathgrip by completely wrapping the phone tightly which isn't a natural thing. I think those that are complaining of the death grip need to not hold the phone like they're trying to strangle it. I also have big hands so that can't be used an excuse. When holding it naturally I get a full wifi signal all over my house which none of my other devices could do. GPS locks fairly quick, but not as fast as the thunderbolt. But it works to say the least, and compared to my Galaxy S1 it's lightyears better. Compass also works great.
It's wifi speeds are hitting as high as 17Mbs down and 14Mbs up which is pretty solid.
As far as "4G" speeds in my area i'm seeing between 7-8Mbs which is great although your mileage may vary depending on where you live. My Vibrant would only pull in speeds between 4-5.5 Mbs on a good day in these same areas. Verizon LTE in comparison blows t-mo's 4G speeds out of the water. It's consistently twice as fast as t-mo's. In real world performance it only launches youtube videos 1 or 2 seconds faster so it's not that big of a deal.
The build quality is amazing, and the best handset i've ever held. That includes the iPhone4. I showed it to a friend who has the Incredible and he was practically drooling at it's looks and how smooth the OS felt. I don't know about the design as it does allow a lot of lint behind the case. We'll have to see if that's becomes an issue with lint getting under the screen.
I've only had it for one full day now and simply love it. Sorry for the long post.
no im sick of this [email protected]#king phone this is my third one after constantly swaping with tmobile because of problems
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no im sick of this [email protected]#king phone this is my third one after constantly swaping with tmobile because of problems
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what problems, please explain
Every device has problems. I went through 3 G1's. None of the GS1's had working GPS. The N1 had a ton of problems, and the iPhone has problems. If you go looking for a problem you're going to find it whether it be with this device or not.
So far so good...it's a keeper and will only get much better once rooted!
Yes, love the phone! Coming from a G2 I was hesitant about leaving the keyboard but the screen size and swype has made the transition easy. I havent had any problems with the phone at all although I havent been trying to look for any. Overall this is the 1st phone that I've had that I felt was superior to the iphone 4. Kinda sick of comparisons to the SGS 2, theres about a 500-600 price difference right now and although the Galaxy 2 may be a better phone I think the S4G is a better value....either way theres nothing on the android app store that these phones cant handle...best phone Ive had period
Yeah. The only real problem is the WiFi death grip issue, but whatever.
Anyone regret buying Skyrocket vs HTC Vivid?
It seems like Skyrocket is very plasticky compare to Vivid. Vivid seems better built. Anyone went from Vivid to Skyrocket?
Any thoughts?
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I exchanged my sgsII for a vivid on sunday when it came out. Didnt like the phone at all. So i sold it on craigslist for 500 and bought a skyrocket. It is alot better. No regrets.
Yeah, I exchanged my Vivid for a Skyrocket today. Not sure I'm really happy. Synching Outlook to Skyrocket is a PITA. Bluetooth seems pretty bad so far. Could just be the Skyrocket doesn't like the H17... I do like the Font sizes far better on the Skyrocket. Non-LTE Data is just as screwed up on the Skyrocket as the Vivid. Battery life seems better on the Skyrocket.
No regrets. This phone(had it 2 days) does seem slower than my sgs2(had it 2 weeks). Other than that I am enjoying the phone.
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Had the vivid for 3 days and switched to the skyrocket.. that's saying allot for.me to switch since I love the sense ui with htcs.. I would choose skyrocket again in a heartbeat.. the vivid does seem to be built Better but that doesn't mean much when your using the phone lol
I purchased SGS2 i777 myself and exchanged it for Skyrocket i727 but still debating. Skyrocket is still in the box. Vivid as I mentioned on the topic that Vivid seems to be more solid and better built. I really like the screen of Vivid. Its very sharp.
The thing about Vivid is that lack of accessories. Even less than i727. Also there seem to be lack of support/development.
Don't know which way to go!
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After having owned both the Skyrocket and the Vivid for a few days, here are a couple of my thoughts. I hope this helps your decision process. This is all just my opinion.
I like the feel of the Skyrocket in my hand better.
The Skyrocket's web browser is not resizing websites when you pinch to expand. The Vivid does.
The Skyrocket's screen colors are brighter than the Vivid's, but light colored websites and text on a full white background is significantly dimmer.Reading ebooks is better on the Vivid, or,for that matter,my Inspire.
The Skyrocket has the charging/USB port where it belongs, on the bottom. The Vivid's is on the side. That's worse for charging cradles and using the phone while charging.
I like the screen resolution on the Skyrocket better. Fonts are easier to read for those with less than perfect vision. Some of the Vivid's Fonts are downright tiny.
The Vivid works flawlessly with my Motorola H17 headsets. Cyberon works great. The Skyrocket has been basically useless with the H17; how it works with voice command I don't know. This may be a compatibility issue, but still...
Synching to Outlook with the Vivid is painless and free with HTC Synch. Synching to Outlook with the Skyrocket is a PITA and costs $50. (For the third party PC program.) Perhaps there's a better way I haven't found.
Volume is FAR better on the Skyrocket.
Battery life is better on the Skyrocket.
The Vivid can turn Bluetooth volume down further. That's a big deal when on the phone with a loud talker.
Sense (Vivid) is better than Touchwiz (Skyrocket).
Both have data issues right now.
Both are plenty fast enough.
I switched from i777 to the skyrocket. Many regrets. Terrible out of the box XviD playback where the i777 was always perfect. I use a lot of CPU intensive apps so I notice the choppiness everyday. But I got a $45 refund and OEM earphones when I switched to the Skyrocket. Plus my gf got me a OEM external charging case + battery so it is too much of a hassle to switch back now. Other than the screen, it is a major downgrade for me until LTE hits my area 2-8 months from now. Then it will probably make up for it when LTE is working because I tether a lot.
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I switched from i777 to the skyrocket. Many regrets. Terrible out of the box XviD playback where the i777 was always perfect. I use a lot of CPU intensive apps so I notice the choppiness everyday. But I got a $45 refund and OEM earphones when I switched to the Skyrocket. Plus my gf got me a OEM external charging case + battery so it is too much of a hassle to switch back now. Other than the screen, it is a major downgrade for me until LTE hits my area 2-8 months from now. Then it will probably make up for it when LTE is working because I tether a lot.
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I bought DICE player which uses hardware decoding and plays xvid just fine.
xvid isn't industry standard and divx is, that's why they didn't add a hardware xvid decoder by default. I consider DICE a good buy as I won't have to worry about whether my future android phones will support media format X.
I kinda' do have regrets...
I'll be 1 week into owning the SR tomorrow. This is my first Android, so there has been a bit of a learning curve. But I dived in and have learned a lot. I'm doing EVERYTHING I can imagine (or researched) and I get what I consider horrible battery life. 5 hours, 1 minute, 10 seconds on battery with all the power setting low, and hardly using it I'm at 21%. There is no way I can get through one day without a charge and theta won't work for me. I'm used to BB battery life and I was ready for a lot less, but this is worse than I expected.
Perhaps because I'm in a western suburb of Chicago (Naperville) and I do not get a strong LTE signal. Speaking of LTE... I'm averaging 5-6 Mbps up and 4-6 Mbps down... is that good? I ask because one time I got 25 up and 6 down when Ii was closer to downtown Chicago. I'm think of going to the original SGS2.
<sigh> well, I've still got time to decide.
Any other thoughts are appreciated.
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Still no regrets. But for some reason I wanted my thin ole S2 back and I was tired of the lag and the picture was stretched a little to much for me. (Maybe I got a bad one) So I returned to local ATT store.
I was pleasantly surprised to find out that if you bought online and return to the local ATT store they do not charge the 35 restock fee. .....it gets better.
Then I went to target and he said the ATT S2 was on sale for 99.00. Bought it and now I am happy. To me the s2 just seems to be the right fit.
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I'll be 1 week into owning the SR tomorrow. This is my first Android, so there has been a bit of a learning curve. But I dived in and have learned a lot. I'm doing EVERYTHING I can imagine (or researched) and I get what I consider horrible battery life. 5 hours, 1 minute, 10 seconds on battery with all the power setting low, and hardly using it I'm at 21%. There is no way I can get through one day without a charge and theta won't work for me. I'm used to BB battery life and I was ready for a lot less, but this is worse than I expected.
Perhaps because I'm in a western suburb of Chicago (Naperville) and I do not get a strong LTE signal. Speaking of LTE... I'm averaging 5-6 Mbps up and 4-6 Mbps down... is that good? I ask because one time I got 25 up and 6 down when Ii was closer to downtown Chicago. I'm think of going to the original SGS2.
<sigh> well, I've still got time to decide.
Any other thoughts are appreciated.
Regards,
Webwbr
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If you are getting those speeds you are on 4G (hspa+) not 4G (LTE). The 4g LTE will have LTE under the 4g. I also think that you got yours ups and downs reversed. Down will almost always be the higher number. And that battery life isnt normal. Try getting buying another battery and see if that helps.
skyrocket has crappy screen, i know that this is subjective but side-by-side with htc is not even close. i love the interface but i preferred the ADWLauncher EX home screen so it really doesn't matter.
having said that, the LG Nitro HD is really the way to go so I'm returning this hopefully within the next 3 weeks and getting that one.
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I'll be 1 week into owning the SR tomorrow. This is my first Android, so there has been a bit of a learning curve. But I dived in and have learned a lot. I'm doing EVERYTHING I can imagine (or researched) and I get what I consider horrible battery life. 5 hours, 1 minute, 10 seconds on battery with all the power setting low, and hardly using it I'm at 21%. There is no way I can get through one day without a charge and theta won't work for me. I'm used to BB battery life and I was ready for a lot less, but this is worse than I expected.
Perhaps because I'm in a western suburb of Chicago (Naperville) and I do not get a strong LTE signal. Speaking of LTE... I'm averaging 5-6 Mbps up and 4-6 Mbps down... is that good? I ask because one time I got 25 up and 6 down when Ii was closer to downtown Chicago. I'm think of going to the original SGS2.
<sigh> well, I've still got time to decide.
Any other thoughts are appreciated.
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I have the Skyrocket now for about a week. I went through a bad battery. Replacing it fixed the problem. Battery life is an issue if one does a lot with the phone but it is so in all modern smartphones. I think that the Skyrocket is slightly better in this regard.
I had carefully evaluated the Vivid and the Skyrocket before purchasing. Despite the fact that both phones have supposedly 4.5-inch screens, the Vivid screen is narrower, not by much, but notably so. The Vivid felt "more substantial" but having various HTC phones that died an early death, I am not sold on HTC quality. Not at all. The screen is much better on the Skyrocket and can be kept dim for most of the time, so it would not be much of a drag.
Neither phone has a way of switching off LTE. In fact, part of your problem may be due that your phone detects a weak LTE signal and spends an inordinate amount of power trying to lock on to the signal. This is well known to be an issue with power consumption on both of these devices. I do not know if this helps, but side-by-side reviews note that battery life is better on the Skyrocket.
In any case, Samsung has announced that it would soon update the phone to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream). It may be at about that time that AT&T may implement the NFC capability of the phone (which is attached to the battery for a peculiar reason). So, I would overlook any "software" issues at this time as there is going to be a massive upgrade in about 4 months.
I am not sure if Samsung is producing enhanced batteries for this phone. If one wants to keep the NFC capability, batteries much come only from Samsung, because of the firmware on them. But beefier batteries may alleviate some of the concerns here. Various firmware updates later on may fix other issues as well.
Personally, I feel that it is a great phone and it would have been much better if it had an LTE on/off switch. I was in Chicago last week and the LTE signal there definitely had an impact on battery life although the speeds were awesome.
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skyrocket has crappy screen, i know that this is subjective but side-by-side with htc is not even close.
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i also played vivid at att store, the screen looks more sharp. but i refuse to buy Heavy Thick Craps!
the lighter the phone, the more comfortable in hand!
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I bought DICE player which uses hardware decoding and plays xvid just fine.
xvid isn't industry standard and divx is, that's why they didn't add a hardware xvid decoder by default. I consider DICE a good buy as I won't have to worry about whether my future android phones will support media format X.
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I just tried DICE Player Trial on a few XviDs. Unfortunately, it does not help. Pretty much it has same or very similar results than the standard out of the box player. Videos that should have 29.97 or 23.97fps, all play around 15-20fps. If you want to see the striking difference, try MX Player, and enable software decode. The phone is powerful enough to deliver native fps with software decode. It is just that the hardware accelerated upscaled image quality is so much better, than the software upscaled image. Basically I want to have my cake and eat it too. Just like I did with i777. With i727, you can either take a hit on resolution, or fps. Maybe Ice Cream Sandwich can improve things? It is not that this phone is incapable. There is something not working right that is making this happen.
I've heard the regular S 2 with the smaller screen has a better processor and will run much better. But I've used my GF's Epic 4g Touch so much that I'm spoiled on having a big screen and a good processor (I believe that has the original samsung processor). The skyrocket has the 4.5 but snapdragon and the original has 4.27 screen and enoxys processor.
What would be better for gaming (up to PS1 and N64), and general web browsing without lag? Does the stock ICS update on the Skyrocket make it all laggy as I see from google searches? I want to keep either phone stock until they receive JB in November from Samsung.
I know the 4.27 screen isn't a huge difference but when my GF got the Epic 4g Touch I was sold on keyboard-less phones. I think its about 5% difference overall in screen size.
I have to pick either one of these phones to used with Straight Talk. Since you can't get 4G LTE (nor would I have much data to work with regardless) one of the main benefits of the Skyrocket is nullified. If I root and OC the Skyrocket to 1.7ghz would any lag be removed? Thanks for the help, its my first smartphone.
Although I'm a Skyrocket vet myself, this is in the completely wrong forum. You'll get much more help in the actual SR forum.
Stock ICS on my S3
Agreed. Moving to the Skyrocket section out of the ATT SGS3 section. Must have zigged, when you should have zagged.
If Straight Talk isn't going to LTE anytime soon (and I honestly don't know if they are), just get the S2. It'll probably be cheaper because it doesn't have LTE.
If anything, when I upgraded to ICS, my SR became faster, and it's only been better w/ custom roms.
The biggest advantages of the SR over the S2 is LTE, larger screen (though lower pixel density), and maybe larger battery (though larger screen might negate this advantage). If you're going to use Straight Talk, I would consider the T-Mo variant of the S2 as well. It's exactly the same as the SR, but has support for T-Mo's 42 Mbps HSPA+. You can probably use T-Mo's network on the SR, but it might take more work than you're willing to put in.
I've owned both the S2 and SR: the smaller screen was actually a plus for me because of the slight bump in pixel density, and the Exynos processor was indeed very fast (maybe SLIGHTLY faster than the Snapdragon S3). However, in everyday use, the difference is negligible. I went w/ the SR b/c of the faster network speed (which IS noticeable), and especially after debloating and using a custom rom, I have no complaints w/ the speed or battery life of the device.
My bad it was pretty early when I posted this. I actually meant to put this thread in the regular AT&T GS2 forum and made a similar thread so owners of each could tell me which one was better for what reason. I think there's now 2 threads about it here. I'm probably going with the Skyrocket anyway.
After it gets JB I will want to put a custom rom on it but I am a fan of Touchwiz. The pull down toggles are really awesome.