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Smh

I see people take this phone rooting and flashing way to serious you knew ahead of time that it was locked and htc said they will unlock it eventually , get a job and quite crying .
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Did you really just make this thread?
Can this be deleted and can we all just act like this didnt just happen?
Thanks.

Yea we do
Noob. Paying good money for a phone. No one has the right to restrict us from anything. we would like to optimise the software, tweak it, overclock it and strip it from bloatware.
Like I said to Htc. I paid for the phone, whether I break it, piss on it, root it, **** on it. Have sex with it, drive over it, bake it. It's my f*ckin phone to do what I like with. Do I want root.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
Have a look at the video to find out more about root and you will know more
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whattttttttttttt do u realize this is XDA ? why would you post something like this in a forum dedicated to take our devices as far as they can go , and like they posted it here before me, we payed for this device we have the right to do what ever we want with them and if we want to root it is because we know the benefits of rooting a phone do some reading and u will see how its a good thing to root your device...........

bonebeatz1234 said:
I see people take this phone rooting and flashing way to serious you knew ahead of time that it was locked and htc said they will unlock it eventually , get a job and quite crying .
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get an iphone if you dont want to hear about rooting?
or better yet dont look on these forums?

Come on guys, dont feed the troll. Its just what he wants you to do.

I'm no developer nor expert on rooting, flashing (well, not the phone kind lol) or programming, but i do understand why i'm looking forward to the unlocked bootloader on Sensation! I'm still delaying my upgrade so i can get this dual-core beast and give thanks that these guys can help me to get the best from a £500 phone! Only adding my £0.02, but not sure this was a wise thread to start. (scratching head)
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It's pointless threads like these that simply clog up the forums.
Thread CLOSED. PLEASE STOP POSTING THREADS ABOUT THE LACK OF DEVELOPMENT.

Unlocking shops

Quick question... I'm thinking of getting my Des S unlocked at a phone shop (it's factory unlocked to all networks, but is S - On). If I have this done, will this process normally s off the phone automatically, or do I need to make sure they use XTC clip. It's just that I'm not sure they'll know what I'm on about if I start talking about S off.

I bought a HTC Desire S from free and I would like to know how to it unlocked permanently also.
I hear you can do it online, offline, using a cable...

at the moment only option is to use XTC clip or XTC clip payngo (or how it is called)... hopefully alpharevx will be released soon and everyone will be able to S-OFF for free without any special hardware
look at this thread, maybe someone near you already bought an XTC clip and can S-OFF your phone
btw, next time try to use search before posting, there are few threads about this already....

The terminology you guys use to alien to new users;
XTC Clip?
S-OFF?
I believe people search before asking a question, if it doesn't make sense you have to create a thread right?
Is there a guide around?

There is, so I'll keep quiet and read it.

You might like to Google this, read all about it first. I have not tested it on the S as mine is already unlocked but it worked on the Desire.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14243239/HTC-Desire-unlock_v0.2a.iso
AT YOUR OWN RISK

InfernalByte said:
You might like to Google this, read all about it first. I have not tested it on the S as mine is already unlocked but it worked on the Desire.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14243239/HTC-Desire-unlock_v0.2a.iso
AT YOUR OWN RISK
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This thread apart from being completely unnecessary and a duplication of many already existing threads is about S-OFF unlocking and not network unlocking so this post isn't relevant.
Besides products that are for the DESIRE shouldn't be suggested to newcomers for the Desire S especially not with the tagline AT YOUR OWN RISK .....IMO

There is a risk involved whether your a new comer or not, and please excuse the fact that I have replied to a genuine concern but I don't have the time to trawl through everything before trying to help.
I have too many hands on my time!
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ben_pyett said:
This thread apart from being completely unnecessary and a duplication of many already existing threads is about S-OFF unlocking and not network unlocking so this post isn't relevant.
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@InfernalByte
This part of my post wasn't directed at you, but the original poster, although the last part was....
Apology for my tone, I've had a sh1t day literally - the house drain backed up and I've been up to the elbows in poo for the last couple of hours, thankfully all sorted now, just in time for returning to work Ahhh!!!

[Q] Will HTC keep its promise?

As we all know that HTC has promised unlocked boot loaders
as per sources here http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_drops_locked_bootloarders_policy-news-2677.php
As time is passing and no response for company..Even to resolve the issue with HTC sense...My confidence is now a little shakey... Kindly ur sesponse might jst help in thinking the next step

where is the "this post should be closed because a MOD said not to post any more bootloader posts" option?
seriously dude, there are a lot of other bootloader posts that you couldn't posed this question in instead of making another useless post.
READ THE STICKIES!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113086

xnifex said:
where is the "this post should be closed because a MOD said not to post any more bootloader posts" option?
seriously dude, there are a lot of other bootloader posts that you couldn't posed this question in instead of making another useless post.
READ THE STICKIES!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113086
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sorry point taken.....thnx

xnifex said:
where is the "this post should be closed because a MOD said not to post any more bootloader posts" option?
seriously dude, there are a lot of other bootloader posts that you couldn't posed this question in instead of making another useless post.
READ THE STICKIES!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113086
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but bro c the votes...i wanna bring out the losing hopes of buyers...... dont u think so...htc is very slow in keeping promises like 2.3 for desire is not yest out..will b later this month..bt why so fast product roll out and so slow updates roll out.....?

They didn't promise anything about the sensation. This phone was a month from release when that was announced. U had to know they meant phones after the sensation and Evo 3d

He saying people getting tired of waiting they could just let people know if it's getting unlocked or not so people can abandon this phone for a rootable devices. As of now it don't seem like apps are utilizing the duel core power anyways thinking about pulling out my nexus s and enjoy being untamed.
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bonebeatz1234 said:
He saying people getting tired of waiting they could just let people know if it's getting unlocked or not so people can abandon this phone for a rootable devices. As of now it don't seem like apps are utilizing the duel core power anyways thinking about pulling out my nexus s and enjoy being untamed.
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it will be unlocked, no need to "jump ship"

Rightly said...they shld mk the policies more clear coz when I called customer care they said asian users hv still no access to full htc sense... Bt no where it is mentioned. So kind of sm hidden facts they follow bt never wanna disclose...this makes the confidence a bit low in them....
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The fact that even new shipments are S-ON just shows that they will not unlock it in the near future.

esincho said:
They didn't promise anything about the sensation. This phone was a month from release when that was announced. U had to know they meant phones after the sensation and Evo 3d
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^^THIS^^
I really wish people would stop crying over the fact that this phone will have never have it's bootloader unlocked. It's depressing.

Jesus Christ u guys are f***** babies.
This is like the 8th thread about the same thing. There is one Rom avail. If s off was availble u will be complaining about the one rom that is present and u want more. U have root and u have the overclocking ability now. U know what u were getting into during the purchase. The ones that are complaining should have just held out till s off has been implemented.
U want it so bad develop it.
Humans are working on s off not robots. The phone isn't even a month old so pull down your skirts and stop complaining. They already said the developers are bricking their phones trying to get s off correctly. So do u still want them to rush it? Than that will be something else you guys can ***** and moan about. Than 100's of threads will pop up:
I Bricked My Phone Trying To S-Off...It's HTC Fault.
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charlieb620 said:
Jesus Christ u guys are f***** babies.
This is like the 8th thread about the same thing. There is one Rom avail. If s off was availble u will be complaining about the one rom that is present and u want more. U have root and u have the overclocking ability now. U know what u were getting into during the purchase. The ones that are complaining should have just held out till s off has been implemented.
U want it so bad develop it.
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church.....

charlieb620 said:
Jesus Christ u guys are f***** babies.
u have the overclocking ability now.
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No, we don't have the overclocking ability with the Sensation, only with the Evo 3D, get informed before taking such a superior-I-m-more-adult-than-you tone.
We can only downclock so far, it won't go over the stock 1188Mhz.
As it was said here before, whether HTC unlock the Sensation and the Evo or not, they could at least answer YES or NO. It has been one month with not a single official piece of information from HTC about this.
The work of devs on these devices is amazing, no need for them to rush in, they already did better than HTC did, when for HTC unlocking our devices would just be so easy.....

i900frenchaddict said:
No, we don't have the overclocking ability with the Sensation, only with the Evo 3D, get informed before taking such a superior-I-m-more-adult-than-you tone.
We can only downclock so far, it won't go over the stock 1188Mhz.
As it was said here before, whether they unlock the Sensation and the Evo or not, they could at least answer YES or NO. It has been one month with not a single official piece of information from HTC about this.
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Last time I checked which was last night there is a overclocking ability for the sensation. Maybe u need to take a trip to the development section and look at something marked 7/9 there are updated batch files for overclocking temp root and perm temp root as well as bloatware remover
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i900frenchaddict said:
No, we don't have the overclocking ability with the Sensation, only with the Evo 3D, get informed before taking such a superior-I-m-more-adult-than-you tone.
We can only downclock so far, it won't go over the stock 1188Mhz.
As it was said here before, whether they unlock the Sensation and the Evo or not, they could at least answer YES or NO. It has been one month with not a single official piece of information from HTC about this.
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What do u want them to keep doing? Check in everyday? Answer EVERYONE individually. Your not helping the process by complaining and demanding. Be patient that's all u can do.
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Not better than double posting man
And no, overclock is just for a very few (rare) ones.
I don't just talk and say blahblah, I try everything available. Can you have more than 1188 Mhz on your Sensation? I don't think so, or tell me how ;-)
No offense meant, I also understand your point of view. I just wish HTC could be clear and communicate........

Htc aint gotta do Jack. We already bought the phone.

charlieb620 said:
What do u want them to keep doing? Check in everyday? Answer EVERYONE individually. Your not helping the process by complaining and demanding. Be patient that's all u can do.
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Just a thought. Do you work for HTC?

tenbeau said:
Just a thought. Do you work for HTC?
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Uh oh the conspiracy theorists are coming out of the wood works. Now if you think people should either post in the dozens of existing bootloader threads, or just stfu about it altogether, you are an employee of "the man".
Iron your brown shirts and fuel up the black helicopters.
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HTC has committed to unlocked their bootloaders. The S4G will be included with those.
This thread is redundant, please read my sticky on bootloader matters.
That being said this thread is now closed. Please stop posting bootloader speculation threads.

[Q] Simple noob Qs re Sensation sys files.

This is my first post I think... So I'm a total noob in that I haven't tweaked any phones before of any type. I've spent probably 20 or so hours in the last few months looking around these forums but due to information overload I'm just gonna bite the bullet and ask about my problem.
Sensation z710e - hboot 1.27 all stock plus OTA updates. No warrenty.
I'm in New Zealand. My phone thinks it's in Taiwan (CID). My GPS sucks and I have read somewhere it's probably looking for Taiwan local satelites and not the ones currently over my head.
There is a system file (read about it elsewhere a while back which I'll have to fnd again) relating to GPS and an area code so it can find the right satelites accurately. Mine quite likely is a few thousand miles off :silly:
I need to edit it. I don't know if I need to change the CID or no. I don't want to flash any roms. Just the bare minimum.
Can someone with experience give me a short list of what to do for this? I got lost as to if I need to s-off and/or root. I like it the way it is I just need it to recognise it's emigrated so I'll likely lock it up again once I've done this. If possible.
Frankly, the more I read in here the more confused I get as most is unrelated to my basic needs. I just want a list of what to do to edit a system file and what order and I can search and find the howtos myself.
ps. If anyone has tips on getting the camera to recognise red as not pink then I'm interested in that too.

There is a free app on the play store called FasterFix that will change those system values for you. It works like a charm IF and ONLY IF that really is your problem.
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...which requires root. So that does not answer my real question about what I need to unlock in order to properly do this. And in what order.
Skipjacks said:
There is a free app on the play store called FasterFix that will change those system values for you. It works like a charm IF and ONLY IF that really is your problem.
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SonOfAdam said:
...which requires root. So that does not answer my real question about what I need to unlock in order to properly do this. And in what order.
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You cant edit system files without root. The option is not available.
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Skipjacks said:
You cant edit system files without root. The option is not available.
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Ok. So what about the rest of my question? S-Off yes no? Anything else I'm missing?
Is it really this hard to get a simple list?

SonOfAdam said:
Ok. So what about the rest of my question? S-Off yes no? Anything else I'm missing?
Is it really this hard to get a simple list?
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If you are going to come here, complain that its too complicated and demand that everything be spoon fed to you then ***** when you don't like how its spoon fed to you....the yes. It is that hard to get what you want.
Good luck fixing your problem. You will be doing it completely on your own due to your ungreatful lousy attitude.
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Skipjacks said:
If you are going to come here, complain that its too complicated and demand that everything be spoon fed to you then ***** when you don't like how its spoon fed to you....the yes. It is that hard to get what you want.
Good luck fixing your problem. You will be doing it completely on your own due to your ungreatful lousy attitude.
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Is that your useful suggestion as a "senior member" here? I'm glad I don't offer such technical help in my field of expertise.
I don't care for step-by-step detailed spoon feeding. I asked for a short todo list so I could go work out how to do stuff myself. One sentence could have answered it something like "You need to root your phone, then s-off, then edit file xyz.cfg and change the CID". Then I'd know what to go search for. I suspect its something similar to that but I am unsure and unwilling to screw up my phone by doing unnecessary things.
I'd already tried FasterFix before you suggested it and discovered that, as my original statement suggests, my phone can't use it until I alter it. Which is why I asked what I actually need to do. You might as well have told me to flash a ROM knowing full well my phone isn't rooted.
I would actually be grateful if someone answered the original question. I know this community can do better than this or I wouldn't have come here for help.

Perhaps you'd like to root your phone 1st so that you'll be able to unlock more capabilities of tweaking it? You may wanna head down to this thread and check it out -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632553

This will help. It's everything you need to do. Please follow this guide. Best wishes hope this helps.
Here is a guide for you for your h boot version http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
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SonOfAdam said:
Is that your useful suggestion as a "senior member" here? I'm glad I don't offer such technical help in my field of expertise.
I don't care for step-by-step detailed spoon feeding. I asked for a short todo list so I could go work out how to do stuff myself. One sentence could have answered it something like "You need to root your phone, then s-off, then edit file xyz.cfg and change the CID". Then I'd know what to go search for. I suspect its something similar to that but I am unsure and unwilling to screw up my phone by doing unnecessary things.
I'd already tried FasterFix before you suggested it and discovered that, as my original statement suggests, my phone can't use it until I alter it. Which is why I asked what I actually need to do. You might as well have told me to flash a ROM knowing full well my phone isn't rooted.
I would actually be grateful if someone answered the original question. I know this community can do better than this or I wouldn't have come here for help.
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What a delightful new addition to the forum you are.
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Rooted and s-off. I still don't know if I needed to s-off as that question was not answered, so I did it anyway. Possibly overkill.
Tweaked the gps.conf manually (fasterfix gave me only a black screen so it's useless) and after reboot got a fix of 7 satelites within seconds. As opposed to before where I got about 4 usually and a fix taking several minutes, if at all, and not being very accurate.

SonOfAdam said:
Rooted and s-off. I still don't know if I needed to s-off as that question was not answered, so I did it anyway. Possibly overkill.
Tweaked the gps.conf manually (fasterfix gave me only a black screen so it's useless) and after reboot got a fix of 7 satelites within seconds. As opposed to before where I got about 4 usually and a fix taking several minutes, if at all, and not being very accurate.
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S-off will really help you.. If you want to restore back to stock in case you are running custom roms.. And it makes these things easy
Now regarding the gps fix you did..
Care to explain what guide you used for manually tweaking the gps? Is this the one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17081413?
Or did you flashed the agps patch? (in sensation dev section I think)
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ganeshp said:
S-off will really help you.. If you want to restore back to stock in case you are running custom roms.. And it makes these things easy
Now regarding the gps fix you did..
Care to explain what guide you used for manually tweaking the gps? Is this the one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17081413?
Or did you flashed the agps patch? (in sensation dev section I think)
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I did see that guide and used the link in it to find my server but since half the contents in that guide weren't in my gps.conf I started by just replacing the american server line with nz.pool.ntp.org. As I had already assumed, it wasn't using a local server.
The option was there to add the other stuff if that didn't work but that simple little step sped things up a lot. And since I didn't know what half the other options did I chose to not put them in.
If there's anything specific I can add to further increase GPS accuracy/speed then I'm open to suggestions.
I don't plan on running any custom roms which is why I wanted to know what steps were actually needed since everyone gives instructions assuming it's all about the roms.

[Q] Bricking - what happens?

Hi,
I recently bricked my GT-i9100 (SGS2). I looked for Jig or JTAG solutions but none were found, so i gave it to the service department of the store which i bought it from. And i started thinking about what happens if you brick the phone. This is why my questions are:
What does happens when you brick your phone?
Is it somehow possible to open a phone that has been (hard)bricked? (maybe not yourself, but keep in mind that it's in service)
If yes on above question, will they know that my phone has been rooted (and thus, warranty voided) or does it somehow just format everything?
If the service department find out that the phone is rooted, what is in their power to do about it?
I thought i had more question but these are the only ones i could think of right now, i remeber more, i'll reply here.
Please try to answer as straight as possible, i did a similar thread before but didn't get the answers i was looking for.
Thank you for the time and extra thanx for replies
Regards.
PS. If you have any question which i can answer that will ease giving the answers, feel free to ask.

I think they will know the device is rooted.. Voiding the manufacturers warranty.. :S
Well, I only know a way to brick the phone, root it and make changes on software.. So, I think your warranty is void...
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There r two types of bricks..
Soft and hard brick..
Soft brick can be easily unbricked but hard bricks are not..
Yes they will know that your phone is rooted..
Many times service centers have repaired rooted phones of some people as i hv read in some posts..
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It's easy for them to find out if it's rooted, unless steps are taken to mask it, but obviously you can't do that after a hard brick.
They might not void your warranty though, either because they don't care to report it or because they don't bother looking for it...
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Hr Kristian said:
It's easy for them to find out if it's rooted, unless steps are taken to mask it, but obviously you can't do that after a hard brick.
They might not void your warranty though, either because they don't care to report it or because they don't bother looking for it...
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Hope they take it easy on me

Lol, one time I actually crashed my old LG P500, and it was rooted, with overclock, chainfire, blablabla..
So I took it to the service, it still had a warranty, and they actualy don't give a * about root or anything. They fixed it for free