Develompment section newbie restriction - General Questions and Answers

Is that really necessary? Do I really have to spam 10 random topics to report bugs at my favourite ROM? Sorry, but I find it turbo stupid...

Yes it is and I have to chit-chat around so I can give developer some feedback.

I'd really like to hear some administrator/ moderator opinion on that

I understand them, but, by this way, they prevent flooding by newbies in specific phones sections (posting some useless links for example)

im on the same bloat as you guys but i did make me read a ton of stuff more

Considering most mods don't ban or warn noobs about posting OT dumba$$ questions in the dev threads, it's completely pointless. Whatever, just play along.
Check your phones general section, there may be a "discussion" thread regarding the project you wish to provide feedback on.
Oh yeah, welcome to the circus

Agreed. It's kinda lame, but I understand the point. Like DJ and sigma said, it keeps people from hitting that New Thread or Quick Reply button unnecessarily and forces people to actually search and read..

I can understand the reason behind it, but it forces to spam 10 messages..

@Turducken
I can just use this topic to spam my 10 msgs, is that what you suggesting?
****, still 5 more. You guys wanna talk about something?

It's been harder than I thought to get to the 10 posts. Am I there yet? Lol

Actually you need 2 more. Let me help you!

Thanks! Appreciate it!

Ok, now I have my 10 posts but still can't post to the developer forums. Does it take a while to update?

What?! Maybe there is a mistake, its 100, not 10...

Ok, once I got to 11 it worked. All is well!

Just wondering: we get banned if we start a thread like "Spamtopic for newcomers. Get your 11 posts quick and painles!~"

well, that's why I didn't just drop 10 (or eleven) nonsense posts here...
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Anyway, I really don't think this is an efficient way of moderating forum... any kid can make 11 posts and troll dev topics, it's actually happening, I'm following Xperia ThGo development and there is a loooot of rubbish. Guess there's a lot of it around the place.
So, the limit is not a weapon, it is a good moderation. Like on AudioNews, for example. If you write junk, you get a BIIIIG red exclamation mark over your post.

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[/COLOR]Anyway, I really don't think this is an efficient way of moderating forum... any kid can make 11 posts and troll dev topics, it's actually happening, I'm following Xperia ThGo development and there is a loooot of rubbish. Guess there's a lot of it around the place.
So, the limit is not a weapon, it is a good moderation. Like on AudioNews, for example. If you write junk, you get a BIIIIG red exclamation mark over your post.
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couldnt agree more

So, why he (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19253195&postcount=8393) having 2 posts, can write a post in ROM topic, but I can't?
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I have a problem with new version of this ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060). I update kernel to r14 (and it's work on my version 3.1a), then I try to update rom from 3.1a to 3.2a, but when I instal it (installation was successful), my phone show my on start:
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[260] fastboot_init()
[260] udc_start()
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Fortunately I make backup earlier, I restore it and it works. But I want to try this new version of NexusHD2 rom... Any ideas?
How I instal it? I go to the CWM screen (i have cLK) i chose st like "instal zip from SD" and i chose destiny of "NexusHD2-Gingerbread_V3.2a_NAND_(Android-2.3.7).zip", maybe I forgot something?
Sorry for my English.

maybe his post got deleted later on, dunno

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[Request] allow original poster to close his own thread...

Please allow posters to close their own thread. It's ridiculous! What is so harmful of us closing our own threads?
I think it is beneficial, for example:
1) OP feels harassed: closes thread
2) OP learns that there was already another, more prominent thread of the same issue: closes thread
3) OP wants too closes his upcoming software update but doesn't want to read other's post issues that he has fixed on the next version.
etc...
Why can't we close our own threads? Delete our own posts?
You should posted this on Sticky: (requests) From the Users to the Mods & Admins in About xda-developers.com section
This thread is the perfect example where you can´t close your mistake
orb3000 said:
You should posted this on Sticky: (requests) From the Users to the Mods & Admins in About xda-developers.com section
This thread is the perfect example where you can´t close your mistake
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LOL you are right. But I think you're been following me, you're like responding to every post I make.
Perhaps is because you are all over the forum?
So chances to encounter you are high and some of your posts have been of my interest
because orb300 isnt in fact a human hes the tasmanian poster
whizzes around and posts alll over the place
I´m a robot.... you didn´t know?
Ask Mods, I´m an experiment on this site a multispammer killer app
Also there are a lot of multiposters like you or poetryrocksalot, so soon you´ll get me!
Cheers,
That's the meaning you will never get that
The magic power of a mod can stop this to be fun!
thats the paisa!!!! followin everybody! posting here and there! to whoever and is the Spamin killer here... is like... That big Spider on the corner of your wall... he eats other bugs and you dont need to kill 'em all.
BTW your req is nice but not so... cause even a stupid question here can becomes a great idea... and we can laugh a lot with them too!
Like this !!!!
Cheers for that Paisa!!!
Saludos!
I think that Orb has several comps and as many arms as an octopus
Getting back to reality tho..... i agree in that we should be able to close or delete or own threads, i mean how many times (no matter how experienced you are) have you posted something after too much wine/beer then re-read a post in the morning and thought....... [email protected]#K..... i obviously didnt read that properly or didnt grasp what was being said through the haze of ones ignorance/arrogance/confidence...... i mean, apart from orb we are all human and make mistakes yes?
Give us the choice to close/delete our thread once, What harm would it do, a mod could always change the action of closing the thread if they thought it could be useful at some time?
timmymarsh said:
I think that Orb has several comps and as many arms as an octopus
Getting back to reality tho..... i agree in that we should be able to close or delete or own threads, i mean how many times (no matter how experienced you are) have you posted something after too much wine/beer then re-read a post in the morning and thought....... [email protected]#K..... i obviously didnt read that properly or didnt grasp what was being said through the haze of ones ignorance/arrogance/confidence...... i mean, apart from orb we are all human and make mistakes yes?
Give us the choice to close/delete our thread once, What harm would it do, a mod could always change the action of closing the thread if they thought it could be useful at some time?
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Yeah there was this one guy who posted in the Xperia forum and all he said was: DELETED (or something along that line)
I would understand how deleting one's post would harm the fact that the conversation becomes hard to understand due to the loss of dialogue. But maybe atleast add a feature to delete double posts, or a feature to disable double post until you wait 2 days.

[Resolved] When are new members able to create a signature?

Just curious if anyone knows off-hand the requirements to have a signature, as i know there are limitations to new members such as the 5 post thing.
If this is a retarded question, flame me lol. I may deserve it. but i cant seem to find the answere, although i only searched for a few mins, but figured a thread here could help others as well. Thank you in advance
~Dark
Welcome to forums
I think you have a minimum amount of posts in order to "unlock" to full use your XDA account, this is to protect members from bad intentional persons.
Not sure but I think something around 10.
After 8 posts they will allow signatures, but it takes a hour or two for them to update your account after the 8th post.
robertgibson said:
After 8 posts they will allow signatures, but it takes a hour or two for them to update your account after the 8th post.
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Thanks, I needed that. I been going to UserCP for the past 2 days with only 5 post.
Can't say that having a sig is something that I need....but anyways, have fun!
Ok great. Now I know why I can't have a sig now. Thanks
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Can't say that having a sig is something that I need....but anyways, have fun!
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Perhaps not now but when you become an active member you´ll see how useful is to have a sig with some of the information you want others to see as what is your HTC device
Lol good thing I looked around the forum. I was like "How do I change my sig???". Definitely an XDA newbie here
Thanks for that robertgibson
Yah, thanks. Something new for me as well.
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I was actually just getting ready to PM someone about this and decided right before I hit the submit button to do a search for this. Good to know. That posting limit is kind of annoying, however I understand why.
Awesome glad I did a search before asking this!!
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After 8 posts they will allow signatures, but it takes a hour or two for them to update your account after the 8th post.
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been looking all over for the answer to this question! The search function out here isnt very helpful all the time!
Glad I found this! Thanks for asking the question. Gotta work my way up to that 8th post!
So, here's my first pretend post out of the 8 or ten or whatever it is today.
Mindless control freakery isn't it?
Anon.
(until further notice, or I may make that permanent in honour of this situation)
Actually I only joined after a lot of lurking, as someone asked a question about rooting on a particular 7 inch tablet; I happened to know and was happy to share the answer, no one had answered the OP. Having joined to answer the question for this cap I then found out that forum says no noobs, so that's not going to work out in a sharing the knowledge sense is it?
I also wanted to comment about the G+ Social thing - that needs more posts too, which does not seem an entirely sociable way to treat a noob.
Don't you just love a bit of irony on a wet Thursday night?
Oh and a great app for working through the five minute posting rule without wasting your life - KitchenTimer on the app market.
I would have (in fact did) make a link but guess what, another rule! There's a pattern emerging here.
It said "thanks for understanding", which looks awfully like an assumption from where I am standing.
Is there a forum where us noobs can just get the limit post over and done with to placate whoever it is that is getting off on having the limit?
Or is the only option we have the one of driving everyone one else crazy with ten posts of made up, really annoying, noob questions?
That does seem the most likely outcome as it stands, regrettably.
Due to apparently not being allowed to edit posts I should point out that when I typed "cap" above, I would have liked it to come out as "chap", but life had other plans.
I too am grateful to find the answer to the signature question. Post 3 - 5 to go.

This may be the most noob question EVER

I'm 40, have been coding sites since 94 and consider myself a geek...
I realize I am also a noob and as such am humble and afraid to piss off TPTB.
So... here's what you may consider a dumb question but I hope you answer it:
How the hell do you thank someone for their post? I'm not seeing something that looks like a "Thank You" button. Sure, I can post "Thanks" as a quick reply.. but I'm thinking that when you are referring to saying thanks in the funny welcome noobs video and having a thank meter you were not going in the direction of "post a thank you message and make this thread 10000x times longer than it should be"
Thanks,
Chris
well first off make sure that you are logged in
secondly, try to hit 10 posts. you can some more privileges at 10 posts, one of which is the ability to post in the development sections
Thanks. Didn't know that about the dev forums.
When I saw your response, I saw the Thanks button come up so I know I can at least see it and am not just "out of it".
Perhaps a noob forum would be ok to have? I know... I know... you deal with us enough as it is...Just saying...
Thank you again and I look forward to being part of the community (and maybe be able to add something of minor value)
Also the 'Thanks' button will only show if you use the new forum look, (Default), rather than the 'Classic' theme.
I have the same problem.
I have the same problem, guys. However, I feel its really quite silly, in a sense, 'cos I've been on XDA for ages now, but I've never had any reason, nor the ability in some cases (Dev threads) to post. I mean, now, I find myself in a position where I really need some dev help on a thread, but I can't ask them cos of this restriction.
And what option does this leave me with?
1. Spam the first 10 posts!
2. Forget about it.
IMO, this restriction defeats the purpose of a support community.
Unless that isn't the goal of XDA. But then, i'm sure they have their reasons...
Hi!
i have same problem.
i have some issue, and need to tell that to developer, but i can't because i don't have 10 posts :S
goodye said:
Hi!
i have same problem.
i have some issue, and need to tell that to developer, but i can't because i don't have 10 posts :S
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PM the dev or make a topic asking for help if you need help, or post around.
i could post to the dev-section&thanking whitout 10 post, but someone has thanked me before that, so mabye this is the trick

Weird...

2 messages i send to moderators , missing
10 posts i posted deleted..
whats next? close my account???
The 10 posts missing could be two things
1. Somtimes the system updates and posts gomissing for a short while, but come back.
2. The manner of your ten posts, if you simply went onto a thread and said somthing like "thanks for this usefull thread", then this is seen a spamming to get upto your first ten posts, and Mods will remove these types of posts.
As for your two pm's going missing, unless you clicked save to send folder before you sent the pm's then they will not show up in your send folder.
I hope this has cleared up a few of the issues you are having.
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The 10 posts missing could be two things
1. Somtimes the system updates and posts gomissing for a short while, but come back.
2. The manner of your ten posts, if you simply went onto a thread and said somthing like "thanks for this usefull thread", then this is seen a spamming to get upto your first ten posts, and Mods will remove these types of posts.
As for your two pm's going missing, unless you clicked save to send folder before you sent the pm's then they will not show up in your send folder.
I hope this has cleared up a few of the issues you are having.
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Well , i understand that this is a very big forum , and must have rulles to function , but how can i post usefull thinks in general? believe me i tried.
General is general. i dont know about roms , i m not interested about hacking , i m a developer . i m interested in developing apps. Thats it.
One good way in which to reach your 10 posts, is go to all the Q&A forums and look to see if you know the answer to other members problems and before you know it you will have your 10 posts. Also if you go to about XDA forum their is a thread their call How to be a new user, their are some tips their on how to get your first 10 posts.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
Or maybe hang around on the off topic forum for some games!
Ok.. some of my posts yesterday.
[Discussion] What's your next smartphone [ 1 2 3 ... Last ]
My answer delleted.
[DISCUSSION] What's the first phone you've ever owned? [ 1 2 3 ... Last ]
My answer delleted.
and other 8
Is this normal??
You would need to contact a S-Mod via PM and ask have your posts been removed or is their tenical issue, reason, for them going missing.
You also need to be aware that many people join this forum claiming to be "interested in developing for Android", and all they ever do is post questions in the Dev forums which don't belong there. The Dev forum is not the right place to ask questions about how to develop apps and things.
If you use the search function, you will find there are guides on XDA for the basics in Android development which you should read and then start learning.
OptimusLove said:
Or maybe hang around on the off topic forum for some games!
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Or not as stated by the mods: 10-post warning
mf2112 said:
Or not as stated by the mods: 10-post warning
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¯\(°_o)/¯ Why did they make that rule??
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¯\(°_o)/¯ Why did they make that rule??
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Do you really want the dev threads full of people who played the ban game 10 times to get in there and who made no efforts to actually help someone first just to post "Thanks for a great ROM" or something similarly insightful?
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You would need to contact a S-Mod via PM and ask have your posts been removed or is their tenical issue, reason, for them going missing.
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I sended 2 PMs but they are missing too... thats weird.
Any way i dont know whats happening , maybe a technical issue
But even if some of my 10 posts are against the forum rulles ( I didn't do it on purpose) why deleting all my posts?
HelectronSoft said:
Ok.. some of my posts yesterday.
[Discussion] What's your next smartphone [ 1 2 3 ... Last ]
My answer delleted.
[DISCUSSION] What's the first phone you've ever owned? [ 1 2 3 ... Last ]
My answer delleted.
and other 8
Is this normal??
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Contact User Experience Admin.. looks like system error.
Check the browser you using and check whether your replies are submitted!!
HelectronSoft said:
I sended 2 PMs but they are missing too... thats weird.
Any way i dont know whats happening , maybe a technical issue
But even if some of my 10 posts are against the forum rulles ( I didn't do it on purpose) why deleting all my posts?
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Depends on the mod and their mood, some of them will just remove a few posts to try to make people understand that they are not following the rules, some of them may simply wipe the slate clean since it is faster and easier than picking through what may appear to be non-contributory posts to leave a couple of adequate posts. Also as s.d.oconnor stated, unless you checked the box to save your PM's in Sent Items they will not be saved automatically. Mods don't delete PMs.
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The 10 post rule was put in place to make new users think, and hopefully contribute and help others by making useful posts rather than the usual crap like "thanks", "kewl" etc or ask questions which have been asked countless times before. They still have access to dev forums, just cannot post in them. Its not a massive restriction and to provide 10 useful/helpful posts is not hard.
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- Fallen Spartan - Moderator Committee
mf2112 said:
Do you really want the dev threads full of people who played the ban game 10 times to get in there and who made no efforts to actually help someone first just to post "Thanks for a great ROM" or something similarly insightful?
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as i said , i respect that this is a realy big forum , and it needs rulles , and ofcourse i dont want dev threads as you describe , i m just trying to understand why my PMs are missing and my posts deleted.
That's all.
HelectronSoft said:
I sended 2 PMs but they are missing too... thats weird.
Any way i dont know whats happening , maybe a technical issue
But even if some of my 10 posts are against the forum rulles ( I didn't do it on purpose) why deleting all my posts?
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It does sound like a Tec issue or a bit of both, but i would recomend waiting 24 hrs and see if soem or all of your missing posts reapear, and if not then you contact a S-Mod, and explain what has happend, they would then be able to tell you if your posts were removed and why or if it's a Tec issue they would pass the infomation onto an admin.
Any way , thank you all for your answers , i ve allready sended 2 PMs , maybe a technical issue , i ll wait for an answer from the mods.
10 post rule has to be rethought
Hi,
this rule for 10 posts is not very good.
how should i post, for example a patched version of rom when i cannot write in the dev. board ?
please dont get me wrong, but in my eyes this is not helpful.
c00k said:
Hi,
this rule for 10 posts is not very good.
how should i post, for example a patched version of rom when i cannot write in the dev. board ?
please dont get me wrong, but in my eyes this is not helpful.
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Au contraire....the rule for 10 posts is very good, when compared to the alternatives. Threads full of spam posts selling whatever junk of the week? 1000's of "Thanks for a great ROM" posts to wade through to find a reply to a question asked a few hours before...not much better. Teenagers using every thread for chit-chat. If you prefer an Android site like that I can assure you there are many out there. Funny thing though, all of them seem to link back to content here....after you get past the gauntlet above.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium

This is why we can't have nice things

Firstly i'll admit this may come off as a rant, but i will be making some valid points that i believe need to be addressed
Secondly, i really don't care if anybody finds this offensive because well points need to be made and sometimes they have to be bluntly made.
Thirdly, i'm sure many of you will agree with me on these points.
Fourthly, @Mods i understand this may come off a bit harsh to some people but again things need to be said.
Finally, please enjoy this read
Well here's the story of how i ended up writing this thread, ever since the Galaxy S3 came out many of you probably noticed that i was constantly helping people every single day, basically answering the same questions day in and day out. For a while i was fine with that, but the past few months i've almost ceased posting entirely, why you ask? Because answering the same questions everyday when their are plenty of stickies, and plenty of threads already asking those exact questions just got tiring and frustrating. Its very simple to search the forums as well as google, and to post a thread asking about a problem that can be answered by simply looking 1 to 5 threads down is just laziness and not needed. I understand people want answers quickly, but sometimes where you post these issues becomes an issue as well.
Issues #1: READ THE ORIGINAL POST (OP)
Example A: Bajee11 brought rootbox to our phones, and now he's closed his thread. Why? Because people couldn't just read the original post and keep non-development talk out of his thread.
Thread can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2134052
If you read his original post right below the downloads section is a Non-development | Discussion | Support banner in big bold letters with a link to where non-development talk should be discussed, simple enough to read and understand. Its not hidden away at all, so their should be no reason why somebody can't see it.
What happened? Somebody flashed the i9300 (european) rom onto their i535 (verizon) phone. And essentially bricked the phone (wouldn't boot up) and that user posted about it asking for support. (ALL posts in their have since been removed so i can't show them to you but please take my word for it)
At this point, support should not be asked in the developers thread when he's stated not to post non development stuff in his thread.
But that's now what happened, people started helping him which is nice to do, but again in the wrong place. And posts continued which clogged up the thread and made things more difficult. Eventually the developer asked that it be stopped and taken somewhere else so that his thread wasn't clogged up with that junk, and this is what happened.
Originally Posted by Internet Guy
Don't be a ****. This forum is here to not only provide Roms and various tools for android users, but also to provide help when needed.
Take a chill pill, friend.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda premium
Bajee11: Dude, this is my thread so I expect the rules to be followed. I have over 20 threads to maintain and I don't want to come back here for every single post when it's not development related. You guys have no clue how hard it is to track bugs when users don't follow any rules and specially when you got several devices to maintain. Not only do you not know what a development thread is, you even take on me for pointing out this not the right place for bricked phone discussion? This is why XDA has different sections for these kind of things and users like you should learn that. Anyways, closing thread.
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Somebody goes and decides to challenge him instead of being respectful and taking NON ROM DEVELOPMENT talk somewhere else, it could've easily been dealt with in PM's, or searching the forum, or help me god making yet another thread about it.
This user that had an issue could've solved his problem by simply looking at this sticky thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079399
Why is this a problem?
Well quite frankly the people that were using the Rootbox rom now have to sit, wait and wonder whether support will continue for D2VZW or if they should move on, just because some people couldn't read the OP and follow the simple requests, and had to feel the need to then challenge the OP instead of just respecting him.
Oh but that only applies to one rom my rom is fine
Have you ever tried to figure what bugs are in a rom only to be forced to read a million posts that aren't related to that rom at all but instead somebody doing something stupid resulting in user error not rom error? I know i have, its so frustrating to have to skim through 20 pages when in reality if people could keep things where they belong we wouldn't have that issue. Once you flash something that's not stock on the rom, ANY BUGS that occur are not the roms fault, because their is no way of knowing whether whatever you flashed caused it or not.
Flash a different kernel, then have x,y,z errors? Post in the KERNEL thread about it, i guarantee you'll get more kernel support their than in the Rom thread. You could make a simple post in the Rom thread and say "hey guys i flashed X kernel and now Y isn't working, just letting others know" Bam end of story, its simple, alerts other users and keeps thing clean.
Okay so that's one post but i see a million of them, okay well lets say User A posts that, then users B-Y post irrelevant nonsense then user Z posts the same thing as A, that's why you see it a bunch. Because B-Y or a combination had irrelevant information in their posts.
Solutions:
Option 1: I realize this is hard but please people have some respect and self control and keep posts where they are relevant. Or maybe the mod's should just start warning/giving infractions to people that can't obey the rules and have some damn respect when a developer asks you to please take business somewhere else.
Option 2: Instead of cluttering up the development thread, go make some thread in Q/A even though that'll go against my second issue it'll be better than clogging up relevant rom information/development, that users want to see. I'm sorry but if you brick your phone flashing something that's not meant for your phone that your own damn fault for not reading what you're download and flashing.
Option 3: If you can't read the OP then you shouldn't be rooting your phone. Honestly folks its not hard to read the OP, its their for a reason, not for you to skip down to the downloads link, flash the rom, and then say "X and Y are missing" when in the OP it clearly states they aren't there. And what do you know that's one more useless post.
Time for me to take a breath...
Issue #2: Not using the search function
I realize this may be hard for people to understand but its their for a reason, not to just look pretty. Its sole purpose is to try and keep things clean and help users to find helpful information. How many of you use google search everyday? i know i do, probably over 100 times a day and its very helpful, so i KNOW that you other users have used a search engine before, so why not use the one on XDA? Its not rocket science and its got plenty of options to help you narrow stuff down.
Hell even before you post a thread, it'll automatically search for relevant threads related to your title.
Notice: When you enter a thread title the system will search for similar threads which have already been posted. That should help you to find answers.
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Now tell me are you blind, or do you choose to ignore it? I'm guessing its the second one. Or maybe people are too lazy to just read the titles of threads, i guarantee you whatever issue you are having somebody else has had and already got an answer for it. Obviously we can't force people to use it, but please people, google is your friend, the search bar is your friend.
Solutions:
Option 1: Up the post requirement for development sections, i know i know this probably will be hated but its clear that it's needed. People still can't seem to just get it right anymore. Maybe if they have to spend a little more time actually using the forum they'll actually start to realize all these helpful things around them.
Option 2: Can we just start banning people? haha i kid i kid. But seriously, can we give Rom developers the right to edit posts in their respective threads, so if they deem something as pointless, then bam deleted
At this point i'm out of breath and tired from staring at the screen.
But i'll leave with this 99% of errors are user errors not rom errors. Yes that's right i'm blaming the users, because hey its your fault for messing something up. I flash rom's everyday and yet i don't have these crazy errors that others have, but hey i'm flashing stuff that's meant for my phone People really need to stop being dumb and start reading the OP it contains so much information, i swear some of you will flashing anything even if in the OP it states "THIS WILL DESTROY YOUR PHONE" and guess what, you'll flash it anyways because you're too lazy to take ONE minute to read it. You could read while making your nandroid backup, oh hey that's a great idea And when you have an issue, just use the search function.
I understand we were all noobs at once, but still... like i said, most issues are user error.
TLTR:
-Please read OP's
-Please use the search bar
-Please post issues in their respective threads
-Please don't post irrelevant nonsense in development threads, that's not the place for it.
-Please if you flash anything not stock with the rom, don't blame the rom.
-Please post rom issues in rom threads, and kernel issues in kernel threads.
-Please if you do something stupid, keep it out of the rom/kernel thread.
-Please read stickies, they contain more information than your heart desires and will help you in the long run.
-Please try and understand where i am coming from
Oh and again, i don't care if i offended some of you.
-NeverEndingXsin
*starts slow clap*
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Haha, you quoted that?
I don't let phone stuff get to me. Life's too short. But maybe this will help, maybe not
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On accident. I'm so used to replying with a quote that I forgot not to.
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bobAbooE said:
Haha, you quoted that?
I don't let phone stuff get to me. Life's too short. But maybe this will help, maybe not
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The final straw for me was that a recognized developer closed his thread due to people being rude, inconsiderate, and not reading the OP. Figured it was time to say something.
Neverendingxsin said:
The final straw for me was that a recognized developer closed his thread due to people being rude, inconsiderate, and not reading the OP. Figured it was time to say something.
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Happened when I was on the Rezound as well. People made Erishasnobattery really mad, and he and Apophis closed off the paradigm thread.
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Obaterista93 said:
Happened when I was on the Rezound as well. People made Erishasnobattery really mad, and he and Apophis closed off the paradigm thread.
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Its a damn shame things go down like that. But i can't blame the developers for getting sick of it. People expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter, but that's not how life is.
Good thread Neverendingxsin. I've had this problem too and had to get mods to intervene multiple times due to childish behavior -_-
PureMotive said:
Good thread Neverendingxsin. I've had this problem too and had to get mods to intervene multiple times due to childish behavior -_-
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Thanks As a user myself i find it hard enough to deal with, as a developer i imagine its a whole lot worse. Just trying to make things a bit easier for you guys!
This really needed to be said. People feel way to entitled around here. You don't realize what you have until you lose it.
luis86dr said:
This really needed to be said. People feel way to entitled around here. You don't realize what you have until you lose it.
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I couldn't agree more. Everything that i know to this day about android i learned by reading threads, reading stickies, and paying attention to problems others are having and the solutions to them. Its not hard to do.
Neverendingxsin said:
I couldn't agree more. Everything that i know to this day about android i learned by reading threads, reading stickies, and paying attention to problems others are having and the solutions to them. Its not hard to do.
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If only everyone could have that mentality, it would make the drama on XDA far less than what it is.
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If only everyone could have that mentality, it would make the drama on XDA far less than what it is.
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Keyword: "If" i doubt that would ever happen
The problem is the people that post all that clutter aren't going to find this thread. They are way too lazy.
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llama555 said:
The problem is the people that post all that clutter aren't going to find this thread. They are way too lazy.
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Not even that they won't find the thread, but they'll just skip over it. And then anyone that actually opens the thread most likely won't bother to read this OP either...
That's the truth
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Unfortunately, it's always going to happen. The best we can do is report the offending posts. The more you report, the more the mods, and admins will take notice. They will in turn, notify the offenders, and remove the posts/threads.
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Unfortunately, it's always going to happen. The best we can do is report the offending posts. The more you report, the more the mods, and admins will take notice. They will in turn, notify the offenders, and remove the posts/threads.
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Mhmmmm. But when developers decide they don't want to develop for a particular phone due to users being like that it starts to become an issue.
Neverendingxsin said:
Mhmmmm. But when developers decide they don't want to develop for a particular phone due to users being like that it starts to become an issue.
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That's why you report the offending posts, as soon as you see them.
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That's why you report the offending posts, as soon as you see them.
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Shouldn't be necessary in the first place. My entire point is that people should be reading OPs and showing respect for them.

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