2 messages i send to moderators , missing
10 posts i posted deleted..
whats next? close my account???
The 10 posts missing could be two things
1. Somtimes the system updates and posts gomissing for a short while, but come back.
2. The manner of your ten posts, if you simply went onto a thread and said somthing like "thanks for this usefull thread", then this is seen a spamming to get upto your first ten posts, and Mods will remove these types of posts.
As for your two pm's going missing, unless you clicked save to send folder before you sent the pm's then they will not show up in your send folder.
I hope this has cleared up a few of the issues you are having.
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The 10 posts missing could be two things
1. Somtimes the system updates and posts gomissing for a short while, but come back.
2. The manner of your ten posts, if you simply went onto a thread and said somthing like "thanks for this usefull thread", then this is seen a spamming to get upto your first ten posts, and Mods will remove these types of posts.
As for your two pm's going missing, unless you clicked save to send folder before you sent the pm's then they will not show up in your send folder.
I hope this has cleared up a few of the issues you are having.
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Well , i understand that this is a very big forum , and must have rulles to function , but how can i post usefull thinks in general? believe me i tried.
General is general. i dont know about roms , i m not interested about hacking , i m a developer . i m interested in developing apps. Thats it.
One good way in which to reach your 10 posts, is go to all the Q&A forums and look to see if you know the answer to other members problems and before you know it you will have your 10 posts. Also if you go to about XDA forum their is a thread their call How to be a new user, their are some tips their on how to get your first 10 posts.
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Or maybe hang around on the off topic forum for some games!
Ok.. some of my posts yesterday.
[Discussion] What's your next smartphone [ 1 2 3 ... Last ]
My answer delleted.
[DISCUSSION] What's the first phone you've ever owned? [ 1 2 3 ... Last ]
My answer delleted.
and other 8
Is this normal??
You would need to contact a S-Mod via PM and ask have your posts been removed or is their tenical issue, reason, for them going missing.
You also need to be aware that many people join this forum claiming to be "interested in developing for Android", and all they ever do is post questions in the Dev forums which don't belong there. The Dev forum is not the right place to ask questions about how to develop apps and things.
If you use the search function, you will find there are guides on XDA for the basics in Android development which you should read and then start learning.
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Or maybe hang around on the off topic forum for some games!
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Or not as stated by the mods: 10-post warning
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Or not as stated by the mods: 10-post warning
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¯\(°_o)/¯ Why did they make that rule??
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¯\(°_o)/¯ Why did they make that rule??
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Do you really want the dev threads full of people who played the ban game 10 times to get in there and who made no efforts to actually help someone first just to post "Thanks for a great ROM" or something similarly insightful?
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You would need to contact a S-Mod via PM and ask have your posts been removed or is their tenical issue, reason, for them going missing.
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I sended 2 PMs but they are missing too... thats weird.
Any way i dont know whats happening , maybe a technical issue
But even if some of my 10 posts are against the forum rulles ( I didn't do it on purpose) why deleting all my posts?
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Ok.. some of my posts yesterday.
[Discussion] What's your next smartphone [ 1 2 3 ... Last ]
My answer delleted.
[DISCUSSION] What's the first phone you've ever owned? [ 1 2 3 ... Last ]
My answer delleted.
and other 8
Is this normal??
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Contact User Experience Admin.. looks like system error.
Check the browser you using and check whether your replies are submitted!!
HelectronSoft said:
I sended 2 PMs but they are missing too... thats weird.
Any way i dont know whats happening , maybe a technical issue
But even if some of my 10 posts are against the forum rulles ( I didn't do it on purpose) why deleting all my posts?
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Depends on the mod and their mood, some of them will just remove a few posts to try to make people understand that they are not following the rules, some of them may simply wipe the slate clean since it is faster and easier than picking through what may appear to be non-contributory posts to leave a couple of adequate posts. Also as s.d.oconnor stated, unless you checked the box to save your PM's in Sent Items they will not be saved automatically. Mods don't delete PMs.
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The 10 post rule was put in place to make new users think, and hopefully contribute and help others by making useful posts rather than the usual crap like "thanks", "kewl" etc or ask questions which have been asked countless times before. They still have access to dev forums, just cannot post in them. Its not a massive restriction and to provide 10 useful/helpful posts is not hard.
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mf2112 said:
Do you really want the dev threads full of people who played the ban game 10 times to get in there and who made no efforts to actually help someone first just to post "Thanks for a great ROM" or something similarly insightful?
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as i said , i respect that this is a realy big forum , and it needs rulles , and ofcourse i dont want dev threads as you describe , i m just trying to understand why my PMs are missing and my posts deleted.
That's all.
HelectronSoft said:
I sended 2 PMs but they are missing too... thats weird.
Any way i dont know whats happening , maybe a technical issue
But even if some of my 10 posts are against the forum rulles ( I didn't do it on purpose) why deleting all my posts?
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It does sound like a Tec issue or a bit of both, but i would recomend waiting 24 hrs and see if soem or all of your missing posts reapear, and if not then you contact a S-Mod, and explain what has happend, they would then be able to tell you if your posts were removed and why or if it's a Tec issue they would pass the infomation onto an admin.
Any way , thank you all for your answers , i ve allready sended 2 PMs , maybe a technical issue , i ll wait for an answer from the mods.
10 post rule has to be rethought
Hi,
this rule for 10 posts is not very good.
how should i post, for example a patched version of rom when i cannot write in the dev. board ?
please dont get me wrong, but in my eyes this is not helpful.
c00k said:
Hi,
this rule for 10 posts is not very good.
how should i post, for example a patched version of rom when i cannot write in the dev. board ?
please dont get me wrong, but in my eyes this is not helpful.
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Au contraire....the rule for 10 posts is very good, when compared to the alternatives. Threads full of spam posts selling whatever junk of the week? 1000's of "Thanks for a great ROM" posts to wade through to find a reply to a question asked a few hours before...not much better. Teenagers using every thread for chit-chat. If you prefer an Android site like that I can assure you there are many out there. Funny thing though, all of them seem to link back to content here....after you get past the gauntlet above.
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referring to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472183
i just wanted to say i didnt mean to complain officially i was just angry.
over one day waiting for reply - and that was after a few days of search specially here
i will not be like the-equinoxe and reply with his word OR to his comments
actually i was expecting some thing contains my anger . with a little politely replying
i consider this site the most important site for PPC that what made me angry , also i saw a few posts asking seriously for help with no satisfied answer
sorry i didnt think that i have no right to get answer
also i want to add that when i know how to help in some problems i do
dody said:
referring to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472183
i just wanted to say i didnt mean to complain officially i was just angry.
over one day waiting for reply - and that was after a few days of search specially here
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take a look at this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427531&page=18
i've been waiting for answer there
all we can do is just patient.
and if u still get no answer, u can also up your thread/post
also try to search for the answer here or google (it could be somebody knows the answer out there).
If you have a problem you can pm a moderator. This section is for questions and answers, not a blog or commentary. Therefore this thread is being closed. Quit re-opening up this topic or you WILL get a ban.
there's no point in complaining. people are doing their best.
as ingerasu said, all you can do is wait. not all questions have straight answers.. and believe it or not we don't spend 24 hours in front of the computer waiting for you to have a problem.
please stop flooding the Q&A section with new threads. it is pointless.
there's no point in further discussion. if anyone knows the answer to your problem, you will get it. but there are NO promises.
I will close this thread. refer all further questions about this to the About XDA-Developers section.
dody said:
referring to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472183
i just wanted to say i didnt mean to complain officially i was just angry.
over one day waiting for reply - and that was after a few days of search specially here
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You got your 1st reply within 44 minutes, there are 1440 minutes in a day, so you are a factor 32+ off..
i will not be like the-equinoxe and reply with his word OR to his comments
actually i was expecting some thing contains my anger . with a little politely replying
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Your demanding tone required another approach.
If you don't like the reply of a mod: PM him/her, don't start provoking by opening yet another complaining thread..
i consider this site the most important site for PPC that what made me angry , also i saw a few posts asking seriously for help with no satisfied answer
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Yups, that happens, we all have questions and sometimes there are no answers. Sometimes the answers have been given countless times.
But keep in mind this is a development Forum, it's not a helpdesk, it is a place where developers gather (all volunteers). We al had to learn, we all had to search, I personally have read thousands of threads, and still don't know everything, so I am still learning (most of us are).
If there is no answer we try to find a solution ourselves.
That is what I meant with being pro-active instead of complaining.
EqX
Just curious if anyone knows off-hand the requirements to have a signature, as i know there are limitations to new members such as the 5 post thing.
If this is a retarded question, flame me lol. I may deserve it. but i cant seem to find the answere, although i only searched for a few mins, but figured a thread here could help others as well. Thank you in advance
~Dark
Welcome to forums
I think you have a minimum amount of posts in order to "unlock" to full use your XDA account, this is to protect members from bad intentional persons.
Not sure but I think something around 10.
After 8 posts they will allow signatures, but it takes a hour or two for them to update your account after the 8th post.
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After 8 posts they will allow signatures, but it takes a hour or two for them to update your account after the 8th post.
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Thanks, I needed that. I been going to UserCP for the past 2 days with only 5 post.
Can't say that having a sig is something that I need....but anyways, have fun!
Ok great. Now I know why I can't have a sig now. Thanks
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Can't say that having a sig is something that I need....but anyways, have fun!
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Perhaps not now but when you become an active member you´ll see how useful is to have a sig with some of the information you want others to see as what is your HTC device
Lol good thing I looked around the forum. I was like "How do I change my sig???". Definitely an XDA newbie here
Thanks for that robertgibson
Yah, thanks. Something new for me as well.
Powered by Android
I was actually just getting ready to PM someone about this and decided right before I hit the submit button to do a search for this. Good to know. That posting limit is kind of annoying, however I understand why.
Awesome glad I did a search before asking this!!
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After 8 posts they will allow signatures, but it takes a hour or two for them to update your account after the 8th post.
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been looking all over for the answer to this question! The search function out here isnt very helpful all the time!
Glad I found this! Thanks for asking the question. Gotta work my way up to that 8th post!
So, here's my first pretend post out of the 8 or ten or whatever it is today.
Mindless control freakery isn't it?
Anon.
(until further notice, or I may make that permanent in honour of this situation)
Actually I only joined after a lot of lurking, as someone asked a question about rooting on a particular 7 inch tablet; I happened to know and was happy to share the answer, no one had answered the OP. Having joined to answer the question for this cap I then found out that forum says no noobs, so that's not going to work out in a sharing the knowledge sense is it?
I also wanted to comment about the G+ Social thing - that needs more posts too, which does not seem an entirely sociable way to treat a noob.
Don't you just love a bit of irony on a wet Thursday night?
Oh and a great app for working through the five minute posting rule without wasting your life - KitchenTimer on the app market.
I would have (in fact did) make a link but guess what, another rule! There's a pattern emerging here.
It said "thanks for understanding", which looks awfully like an assumption from where I am standing.
Is there a forum where us noobs can just get the limit post over and done with to placate whoever it is that is getting off on having the limit?
Or is the only option we have the one of driving everyone one else crazy with ten posts of made up, really annoying, noob questions?
That does seem the most likely outcome as it stands, regrettably.
Due to apparently not being allowed to edit posts I should point out that when I typed "cap" above, I would have liked it to come out as "chap", but life had other plans.
I too am grateful to find the answer to the signature question. Post 3 - 5 to go.
i don't know if i keep missing it or i just can't find it
can anyone guide me to it? thank you in advance!
I believe you need a minimum number of posts to unlock the market. Not sure how many though.
Marketplace rules found in the main rule (top right hand button) but also linked here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
Minimum of 8 posts required.
timmymarsh said:
Marketplace rules found in the main rule (top right hand button) but also linked here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
Minimum of 8 posts required.
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thank you. I've been using XDA for at least a 2 years now, but never really post because there are always SO MANY people making unnecessary comments in informative threads that I don't want to add to the page counts
Not to bump an old thread (though it shows I searched lol), but I've got more than 8 posts, but still don't see the marketplace. Does it take a while to update?
cmags said:
Not to bump an old thread (though it shows I searched lol), but I've got more than 8 posts, but still don't see the marketplace. Does it take a while to update?
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Yea - I have 16 posts and it's still not unlocked. hmmmmm...
The Apostle said:
Yea - I have 16 posts and it's still not unlocked. hmmmmm...
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Do not, bump a year old post, try getting to 30 posts and see if it works, if not pm a mod.
Sent from Mount Olympus via Hermes
Hi there,
The MP rules were amended last year to a minimum of 50 posts and being a member for a year (read rule number 1 in the link above )
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thank you. I've been using XDA for at least a 2 years now, but never really post because there are always SO MANY people making unnecessary comments in informative threads that I don't want to add to the page counts
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Agreed. Sometimes they'll post a one word comment, like "Cool!", and their signature block will be half a mile long.
When I try logging in with my XDA credentials, I keep getting told I will receive an email....yet nothing comes through.
Works well guys!
RoOSTA
Is there any chance to get pass the 10 posts limit and speak in developers forum? I go here often, but my last problem was three years ago and resolved in two replies. I don't remember that limit was in effect back then
Do I really need to write another 7 not usefull posts to get one simple answer in developer forum?
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Is there any chance to get pass the 10 posts limit and speak in developers forum? I go here often, but my last problem was three years ago and resolved in two replies. I don't remember that limit was in effect back then
Do I really need to write another 7 not usefull posts to get one simple answer in developer forum?
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No you need to write 7 useful posts, try helping people in the QandA section etc.
This is how it is, there a very good reasons behind these rules and this thread will likely be closed so just move on and help others.
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No you need to write 7 useful posts, try helping people in the QandA section etc.
This is how it is, there a very good reasons behind these rules and this thread will likely be closed so just move on and help others.
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Okay, just let me think about this for a while... You are suggesting that a noob that has a problem should first solve some other problems and then he is allowed to solve his own problem?
Hm, since when is XDA only for the selected?
I have to agree with topic-starter.
I read much info before I even registered. I rooted my phone with the various threads, but then you have a problem/bug, and you can't address it in the dev-thread.
If some-one asks why there is a 10post limit, everybody says, help other people in the q&A topic.
As a very beginner in rooting/change rom's, you just can't help other people with much more complicated questions.
I'm on many forums, and usually such rule only results in more un-usefull spamming.
I don't have a huge problem with that. But I had a problem with a ROM, and instead of just asking it in the dev-section, I had to search a couple of hours in many threads to find a solution.
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Okay, just let me think about this for a while... You are suggesting that a noob that has a problem should first solve some other problems and then he is allowed to solve his own problem?
Hm, since when is XDA only for the selected?
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I have to agree with topic-starter.
I read much info before I even registered. I rooted my phone with the various threads, but then you have a problem/bug, and you can't address it in the dev-thread.
If some-one asks why there is a 10post limit, everybody says, help other people in the q&A topic.
As a very beginner in rooting/change rom's, you just can't help other people with much more complicated questions.
I'm on many forums, and usually such rule only results in more un-usefull spamming.
I don't have a huge problem with that. But I had a problem with a ROM, and instead of just asking it in the dev-section, I had to search a couple of hours in many threads to find a solution.
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The key there is that you found the answer yourself after searching for a couple of hours. That is how people learn - it's how I learnt how to root, S-Off etc my HTC DS - by reading and trying to understand.
The Dev section is NOT the place for questions. It is NOT the place for questions. It is NOT the place for questions. Get the idea? The Dev section is for Development - genuine bug reporting and discussion by the guys who develop and test the ROMs.
I don't think 10 posts is enough. I personally feel that the Dev section should be by invite only. Once somebody has proved that they are able to abide by the rules of XDA and contribute in a meaningful manner then the Devs can invite them to join if they feel so inclined.
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Okay, just let me think about this for a while... You are suggesting that a noob that has a problem should first solve some other problems and then he is allowed to solve his own problem?
Hm, since when is XDA only for the selected?
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Well two things here, no If you have a problem you need solving you post it in the Q&A section in the first place..as this is where questions go Development threads are for development.
And XDA is and always has been about the developers, about developers sharing there work.
Yes, great... So developers have time to test other developers work? I would say that all the wannabe testers have hard time to feedback developers. They use emails. Developers say: use forum, it's great. And the usual answer is: I'm not over the limit yet.
I flash often, I test often. I find bugs often. I read ALOT. And when I find something no one has found yet.... I have to wait until an "experienced noob" (you don't really think number of posts indicate how experienced a guy is...) will write a bug report.
I got tired of waiting today and tried to step ahead but no... I have to make more comments to prove I'm worthy to speak with the DEV's... I'm no flamer and don't take this post like that but...
Posting a question in Q&A and hoping that one guy who might have my solution will answer... Maybe PM him and when he answers I will keep the solution to myself. Nah, too simple... XDA is for developers and developers always rely on people who test their night builds. Don't keep DEV's alone up there in the Ivory tower :angel:
PS: I would never dare to ask a question that was already answered here...
Yeah whats up with that
I have to have ten post before i can post my issue on the rom i downloaded that kinda bricked my phone. baha... i am swolt.. and to top it off i have to wait 5 minutes between post i guess it sucks to be a new user; but i am glad to be a part of the XDA forum team since i have been flashing every week for the past year or so... i joined after i ran into a problem go figure...
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Yes, great... So developers have time to test other developers work? I would say that all the wannabe testers have hard time to feedback developers. They use emails. Developers say: use forum, it's great. And the usual answer is: I'm not over the limit yet.
I flash often, I test often. I find bugs often. I read ALOT. And when I find something no one has found yet.... I have to wait until an "experienced noob" (you don't really think number of posts indicate how experienced a guy is...) will write a bug report.
I got tired of waiting today and tried to step ahead but no... I have to make more comments to prove I'm worthy to speak with the DEV's... I'm no flamer and don't take this post like that but...
Posting a question in Q&A and hoping that one guy who might have my solution will answer... Maybe PM him and when he answers I will keep the solution to myself. Nah, too simple... XDA is for developers and developers always rely on people who test their night builds. Don't keep DEV's alone up there in the Ivory tower :angel:
PS: I would never dare to ask a question that was already answered here...
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I have to have ten post before i can post my issue on the rom i downloaded that kinda bricked my phone. baha... i am swolt.. and to top it off i have to wait 5 minutes between post i guess it sucks to be a new user; but i am glad to be a part of the XDA forum team since i have been flashing every week for the past year or so... i joined after i ran into a problem go figure...
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Its a case of thats just how it is, many devs have started threads in the general subsections for talking about the ROMs to reduce the issue.
The big reason for the limit is simple, with out it the dev section gets flooded with question threads, and general chit chat or basic questions which have been answered a million times end up in dev threads which should be kept clean for real feedback to been seen by the devs.
I know it sucks but it works, 10 posts is nothing, you will find if you look across the forum there will be plenty of threads you can give input to (For example there are loads of "which do you like more" type threads) which require no technical skill. You will very quickly get past the ten posts and move on
I know it sucks but it works, 10 posts is nothing, you will find if you look across the forum there will be plenty of threads you can give input to (For example there are loads of "which do you like more" type threads) which require no technical skill. You will very quickly get past the ten posts and move on[/QUOTE]
Yeah; I am well on my way. 3 down 7 to go .
I know I know, just a long day at work..
Close it please.
Wrong section, this issue has been discussed to no end, and the rule isn't going anywhere. Thread closed.
Sent from my AOKP ICS equipped HTC Glacier using xda premium
Firstly i'll admit this may come off as a rant, but i will be making some valid points that i believe need to be addressed
Secondly, i really don't care if anybody finds this offensive because well points need to be made and sometimes they have to be bluntly made.
Thirdly, i'm sure many of you will agree with me on these points.
Fourthly, @Mods i understand this may come off a bit harsh to some people but again things need to be said.
Finally, please enjoy this read
Well here's the story of how i ended up writing this thread, ever since the Galaxy S3 came out many of you probably noticed that i was constantly helping people every single day, basically answering the same questions day in and day out. For a while i was fine with that, but the past few months i've almost ceased posting entirely, why you ask? Because answering the same questions everyday when their are plenty of stickies, and plenty of threads already asking those exact questions just got tiring and frustrating. Its very simple to search the forums as well as google, and to post a thread asking about a problem that can be answered by simply looking 1 to 5 threads down is just laziness and not needed. I understand people want answers quickly, but sometimes where you post these issues becomes an issue as well.
Issues #1: READ THE ORIGINAL POST (OP)
Example A: Bajee11 brought rootbox to our phones, and now he's closed his thread. Why? Because people couldn't just read the original post and keep non-development talk out of his thread.
Thread can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2134052
If you read his original post right below the downloads section is a Non-development | Discussion | Support banner in big bold letters with a link to where non-development talk should be discussed, simple enough to read and understand. Its not hidden away at all, so their should be no reason why somebody can't see it.
What happened? Somebody flashed the i9300 (european) rom onto their i535 (verizon) phone. And essentially bricked the phone (wouldn't boot up) and that user posted about it asking for support. (ALL posts in their have since been removed so i can't show them to you but please take my word for it)
At this point, support should not be asked in the developers thread when he's stated not to post non development stuff in his thread.
But that's now what happened, people started helping him which is nice to do, but again in the wrong place. And posts continued which clogged up the thread and made things more difficult. Eventually the developer asked that it be stopped and taken somewhere else so that his thread wasn't clogged up with that junk, and this is what happened.
Originally Posted by Internet Guy
Don't be a ****. This forum is here to not only provide Roms and various tools for android users, but also to provide help when needed.
Take a chill pill, friend.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda premium
Bajee11: Dude, this is my thread so I expect the rules to be followed. I have over 20 threads to maintain and I don't want to come back here for every single post when it's not development related. You guys have no clue how hard it is to track bugs when users don't follow any rules and specially when you got several devices to maintain. Not only do you not know what a development thread is, you even take on me for pointing out this not the right place for bricked phone discussion? This is why XDA has different sections for these kind of things and users like you should learn that. Anyways, closing thread.
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Somebody goes and decides to challenge him instead of being respectful and taking NON ROM DEVELOPMENT talk somewhere else, it could've easily been dealt with in PM's, or searching the forum, or help me god making yet another thread about it.
This user that had an issue could've solved his problem by simply looking at this sticky thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079399
Why is this a problem?
Well quite frankly the people that were using the Rootbox rom now have to sit, wait and wonder whether support will continue for D2VZW or if they should move on, just because some people couldn't read the OP and follow the simple requests, and had to feel the need to then challenge the OP instead of just respecting him.
Oh but that only applies to one rom my rom is fine
Have you ever tried to figure what bugs are in a rom only to be forced to read a million posts that aren't related to that rom at all but instead somebody doing something stupid resulting in user error not rom error? I know i have, its so frustrating to have to skim through 20 pages when in reality if people could keep things where they belong we wouldn't have that issue. Once you flash something that's not stock on the rom, ANY BUGS that occur are not the roms fault, because their is no way of knowing whether whatever you flashed caused it or not.
Flash a different kernel, then have x,y,z errors? Post in the KERNEL thread about it, i guarantee you'll get more kernel support their than in the Rom thread. You could make a simple post in the Rom thread and say "hey guys i flashed X kernel and now Y isn't working, just letting others know" Bam end of story, its simple, alerts other users and keeps thing clean.
Okay so that's one post but i see a million of them, okay well lets say User A posts that, then users B-Y post irrelevant nonsense then user Z posts the same thing as A, that's why you see it a bunch. Because B-Y or a combination had irrelevant information in their posts.
Solutions:
Option 1: I realize this is hard but please people have some respect and self control and keep posts where they are relevant. Or maybe the mod's should just start warning/giving infractions to people that can't obey the rules and have some damn respect when a developer asks you to please take business somewhere else.
Option 2: Instead of cluttering up the development thread, go make some thread in Q/A even though that'll go against my second issue it'll be better than clogging up relevant rom information/development, that users want to see. I'm sorry but if you brick your phone flashing something that's not meant for your phone that your own damn fault for not reading what you're download and flashing.
Option 3: If you can't read the OP then you shouldn't be rooting your phone. Honestly folks its not hard to read the OP, its their for a reason, not for you to skip down to the downloads link, flash the rom, and then say "X and Y are missing" when in the OP it clearly states they aren't there. And what do you know that's one more useless post.
Time for me to take a breath...
Issue #2: Not using the search function
I realize this may be hard for people to understand but its their for a reason, not to just look pretty. Its sole purpose is to try and keep things clean and help users to find helpful information. How many of you use google search everyday? i know i do, probably over 100 times a day and its very helpful, so i KNOW that you other users have used a search engine before, so why not use the one on XDA? Its not rocket science and its got plenty of options to help you narrow stuff down.
Hell even before you post a thread, it'll automatically search for relevant threads related to your title.
Notice: When you enter a thread title the system will search for similar threads which have already been posted. That should help you to find answers.
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Now tell me are you blind, or do you choose to ignore it? I'm guessing its the second one. Or maybe people are too lazy to just read the titles of threads, i guarantee you whatever issue you are having somebody else has had and already got an answer for it. Obviously we can't force people to use it, but please people, google is your friend, the search bar is your friend.
Solutions:
Option 1: Up the post requirement for development sections, i know i know this probably will be hated but its clear that it's needed. People still can't seem to just get it right anymore. Maybe if they have to spend a little more time actually using the forum they'll actually start to realize all these helpful things around them.
Option 2: Can we just start banning people? haha i kid i kid. But seriously, can we give Rom developers the right to edit posts in their respective threads, so if they deem something as pointless, then bam deleted
At this point i'm out of breath and tired from staring at the screen.
But i'll leave with this 99% of errors are user errors not rom errors. Yes that's right i'm blaming the users, because hey its your fault for messing something up. I flash rom's everyday and yet i don't have these crazy errors that others have, but hey i'm flashing stuff that's meant for my phone People really need to stop being dumb and start reading the OP it contains so much information, i swear some of you will flashing anything even if in the OP it states "THIS WILL DESTROY YOUR PHONE" and guess what, you'll flash it anyways because you're too lazy to take ONE minute to read it. You could read while making your nandroid backup, oh hey that's a great idea And when you have an issue, just use the search function.
I understand we were all noobs at once, but still... like i said, most issues are user error.
TLTR:
-Please read OP's
-Please use the search bar
-Please post issues in their respective threads
-Please don't post irrelevant nonsense in development threads, that's not the place for it.
-Please if you flash anything not stock with the rom, don't blame the rom.
-Please post rom issues in rom threads, and kernel issues in kernel threads.
-Please if you do something stupid, keep it out of the rom/kernel thread.
-Please read stickies, they contain more information than your heart desires and will help you in the long run.
-Please try and understand where i am coming from
Oh and again, i don't care if i offended some of you.
-NeverEndingXsin
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Haha, you quoted that?
I don't let phone stuff get to me. Life's too short. But maybe this will help, maybe not
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On accident. I'm so used to replying with a quote that I forgot not to.
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bobAbooE said:
Haha, you quoted that?
I don't let phone stuff get to me. Life's too short. But maybe this will help, maybe not
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The final straw for me was that a recognized developer closed his thread due to people being rude, inconsiderate, and not reading the OP. Figured it was time to say something.
Neverendingxsin said:
The final straw for me was that a recognized developer closed his thread due to people being rude, inconsiderate, and not reading the OP. Figured it was time to say something.
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Happened when I was on the Rezound as well. People made Erishasnobattery really mad, and he and Apophis closed off the paradigm thread.
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Obaterista93 said:
Happened when I was on the Rezound as well. People made Erishasnobattery really mad, and he and Apophis closed off the paradigm thread.
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Its a damn shame things go down like that. But i can't blame the developers for getting sick of it. People expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter, but that's not how life is.
Good thread Neverendingxsin. I've had this problem too and had to get mods to intervene multiple times due to childish behavior -_-
PureMotive said:
Good thread Neverendingxsin. I've had this problem too and had to get mods to intervene multiple times due to childish behavior -_-
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Thanks As a user myself i find it hard enough to deal with, as a developer i imagine its a whole lot worse. Just trying to make things a bit easier for you guys!
This really needed to be said. People feel way to entitled around here. You don't realize what you have until you lose it.
luis86dr said:
This really needed to be said. People feel way to entitled around here. You don't realize what you have until you lose it.
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I couldn't agree more. Everything that i know to this day about android i learned by reading threads, reading stickies, and paying attention to problems others are having and the solutions to them. Its not hard to do.
Neverendingxsin said:
I couldn't agree more. Everything that i know to this day about android i learned by reading threads, reading stickies, and paying attention to problems others are having and the solutions to them. Its not hard to do.
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If only everyone could have that mentality, it would make the drama on XDA far less than what it is.
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If only everyone could have that mentality, it would make the drama on XDA far less than what it is.
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Keyword: "If" i doubt that would ever happen
The problem is the people that post all that clutter aren't going to find this thread. They are way too lazy.
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llama555 said:
The problem is the people that post all that clutter aren't going to find this thread. They are way too lazy.
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Not even that they won't find the thread, but they'll just skip over it. And then anyone that actually opens the thread most likely won't bother to read this OP either...
That's the truth
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Unfortunately, it's always going to happen. The best we can do is report the offending posts. The more you report, the more the mods, and admins will take notice. They will in turn, notify the offenders, and remove the posts/threads.
spotmark said:
Unfortunately, it's always going to happen. The best we can do is report the offending posts. The more you report, the more the mods, and admins will take notice. They will in turn, notify the offenders, and remove the posts/threads.
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Mhmmmm. But when developers decide they don't want to develop for a particular phone due to users being like that it starts to become an issue.
Neverendingxsin said:
Mhmmmm. But when developers decide they don't want to develop for a particular phone due to users being like that it starts to become an issue.
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That's why you report the offending posts, as soon as you see them.
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That's why you report the offending posts, as soon as you see them.
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Shouldn't be necessary in the first place. My entire point is that people should be reading OPs and showing respect for them.