[Q] Best Windows Phone for Music/Battery Life - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm going to be buying a new AT&T Windows Phone device. I'm looking to get one pretty cheap, so I'm limiting myself to the LG Quantum, Samsung Focus, HTC Surround, and anything else that can be unlocked to run on AT&T. My main hope is to be able to listen to as much music (Zune, internet radio) as possible. Which phone fares the best in terms of battery life when listening to music?

uwbadgers16 said:
I'm going to be buying a new AT&T Windows Phone device. I'm looking to get one pretty cheap, so I'm limiting myself to the LG Quantum, Samsung Focus, HTC Surround, and anything else that can be unlocked to run on AT&T. My main hope is to be able to listen to as much music (Zune, internet radio) as possible. Which phone fares the best in terms of battery life when listening to music?
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Well if you want loudspeakers than the surround would be the best but i am not sure about the battery life. The focus has a really good screen but imo it feels cheap. THe quantum has a keyboard and that is it.

Focus is the best. Forget about the Surround, speakers are still pretty bad.

As MarysFetus has already said, the speakers on the Sorround are still fairly bad. I would certainly pick up the Fucus if I were you, but if you can pick up a Mozart thats the WP I would pick for great batteyr life.
After using my mothers Mozart and using my 7 Pro, her bettery would WAY out last mine!

Focus
I actually had the focus at one point. The problem that I had with it was that I could constantly hear a small amount of hissing/distortion on the line with the headphones in. And with the microSDs being so shaky, it really only has 8 GB with it.

i heard that the upcoming htc titan has some insane battery life. i forget who, but a reviewer reported that he used the phone for full day with Wifi and still had 70% battery. Doubtful, but still that sounds like its gotta be pretty good.

i think the HTC surround is the best one,because i am useing this device and feel good.there are so many softwares and games for the device so i think it's the best choese for you.

I have the surround and have enjoyed it alot, the speakers are not useless as some say. They come in handy every once in a while in a room sound friendly or on the go, especially with the kickstand. The HTC surround is def a little heavy compared to the focus, but its fits nicely in the hand and pocket so it's not the biggest deal, but I have a focus also and it is def more comfortable to hold due to the weight and thinness, but not huge deal (i use the surround since music is better experience on the phone for sure). I had problems with the microsd slot on the focus and got sick of it and switched to the surround. The screen is way more impressive on the focus, but the htc surround has no cons besides not being breathtaking, its simply does the job very well, but colors do not pop as on the focus. The Focus like other samsung phones feels cheap and plastic in my opinion as opposed to the surround which is typical HTC build quality. The focus is a better phone, but the surround can be a safer choice depending on your opinion of phones.
Hope that helps you decide just typed what I think of the phones since i own both.

Does the Focus or Surround have better battery life?

uwbadgers16 said:
Does the Focus or Surround have better battery life?
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Probably the Focus. The battery on the Surround is pretty paltry. With just moderate use I'm usually lucky to finish out the day without it getting close to dead. I did find a BIG extended battery searching Google (like twice the size) but judging by the cover it would be rather chunky and unwieldy. It was also expensive.
Ah, here it is. 3900 mAh compared to 1230 or so for the original.
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...ry-for-htc-7-surround-t8788-htc-mondrian.html
Here's a 2400 mAh on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2400mAh-Extended-Battery-HTC-Surround-7-T8788-/170631609625
There seems to be some doubt about the quality and ratings of the Mugen Power batteries too. So buyer beware.

tenhotshot said:
i heard that the upcoming htc titan has some insane battery life. i forget who, but a reviewer reported that he used the phone for full day with Wifi and still had 70% battery. Doubtful, but still that sounds like its gotta be pretty good.
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Really ? My dream is to have a phone that I can use semi heavy and still get a real world 2-3 days out of it. Not a wake up at 7am and be charging it by 4-6pm...
I would love to see that review....

LG Quantum
Where does the LG Quantum fit into this discussion?

Samsung Focus or LG Quantum
Alright, I'm between the Samsung Focus and LG Quantum. I essentially need my phone to text, and surf, but primarily for music. Which is going to give me the best battery life?

I have the surround and the lg quantum
hands down the LG Quantum has the best battery life of all the windows phones. Slightly smaller screen and bigger battery.
BUT the surround has sooooo much better sound if you are into music, I am not even talking about the gimicky speakers but through the headphones the sound on the surround is leaps and bounds better then the quantum. Or any other phone I have ever owned.
I don;t know why so many people knock the surround, its a great device and battery life is pretty average for a smart phone I can do a day from 7am to 11pm easily with about 15-20% left on the battery.
I only notice the battery life not being too great when I compare it with the quantum where on the same usage patterns I can do 1.5 days before I start getting nervous about charging around 10-15% left

I am very pleased with my LG quantum, both by its battery and the quality of sound.
I don't think anyone will be disappointed at it, as far as that aspect of the phone is concerned.

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I did find a BIG extended battery searching Google (like twice the size) but judging by the cover it would be rather chunky and unwieldy. It was also expensive.
Ah, here it is. 3900 mAh compared to 1230 or so for the original.
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...ry-for-htc-7-surround-t8788-htc-mondrian.html
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Nice! That battery is almost approaching the capacity of a laptop battery!
Shame they don't show a side-on view of the phone - must be quite chunky as you say

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[Q] Sell my SGS2 for Optimus 3D

I am considering selling my Samsung Galaxy S2 for the LG Optimus 3D, as after playing with one in a phone shop, I am really impressed with the 3D and build quality of the phone.
What I would like to know is, if the battery life is worse than the SGS2? I know it will be in 3D mode, but what about 2D?
I would also like to know if the phone gets warm/hot after extended use? I hate the way my SGS2 gets really hot around the ear piece and camera after only moderate use.
What is the App memory size?
What is the signal quality like on the O3d? My SGS2 varies quite a bit.
Anything else you can tell me to help make a decision?
I do like my SGS2, but i'm really liking the 3d and solid feel to the O3D.
Thanks.
simacca said:
I am considering selling my Samsung Galaxy S2 for the LG Optimus 3D, as after playing with one in a phone shop, I am really impressed with the 3D and build quality of the phone.
What I would like to know is, if the battery life is worse than the SGS2? I know it will be in 3D mode, but what about 2D?
I would also like to know if the phone gets warm/hot after extended use? I hate the way my SGS2 gets really hot around the ear piece and camera after only moderate use.
What is the signal quality like on the O3d? My SGS2 varies quite a bit.
Anything else you can tell me to help make a decision?
I do like my SGS2, but i'm really liking the 3d and solid feel to the O3D.
Thanks.
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Having had a GS2 and having this phone now I can answer you I think.
Battery life is far worse than the GS2, as a example my phone was fully charged at 8am in Friday was over at my sisters for the day helping her out, around 50 mins music on the bus on the way, played a bit of 3D movies showing her, took some also, few texts but no calls, a bit of internet browsing, came home at 6 ish with less than 23% left.
Heat wise isn't something I have really noticed certainly not the the level of the GS2.
My T-Mobile signal seems no different but Wifi is better and gps for me.
I sold mine for the 3D side of this phone as I truly love it, but the battery has me concerned slightly, I don't drive so no way of charging it if required and i am missing slightly the good battery life I had before, do I regret selling it ? no I don't I just hope the battery gets better on this or I may have to re think things, or get another battery which I don't want to do have to carry another one around.
Jabbypants said:
Having had a GS2 and having this phone now I can answer you I think.
Battery life is far worse than the GS2, as a example my phone was fully charged at 8am in Friday was over at my sisters for the day helping her out, around 50 mins music on the bus on the way, played a bit of 3D movies showing her, took some also, few texts but no calls, a bit of internet browsing, came home at 6 ish with less than 23% left.
Heat wise isn't something I have really noticed certainly not the the level of the GS2.
My T-Mobile signal seems no different but Wifi is better and gps for me.
I sold mine for the 3D side of this phone as I truly love it, but the battery has me concerned slightly, I don't drive so no way of charging it if required and i am missing slightly the good battery life I had before, do I regret selling it ? no I don't I just hope the battery gets better on this or I may have to re think things, or get another battery which I don't want to do have to carry another one around.
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Thanks for the reply. I barely get 12 hours out of my SGS2 (less than 10 with heavy use), and coming from the iPhone 4 it's disappointing. I hear there is an extended battery for the O3D. I wonder if it makes much difference?
The heat problem really bugs me on my SGS2. Especially being summertime lol.
Can you tell me the space reserved for apps/games as I have lots on my phone so far.
Anyone else who has had experience of both models?
The more info the better
Thanks.
simacca said:
Thanks for the reply. I barely get 12 hours out of my SGS2 (less than 10 with heavy use), and coming from the iPhone 4 it's disappointing. I hear there is an extended battery for the O3D. I wonder if it makes much difference?
The heat problem really bugs me on my SGS2. Especially being summertime lol.
Can you tell me the space reserved for apps/games as I have lots on my phone so far.
Anyone else who has had experience of both models?
The more info the better
Thanks.
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My 03d heats up also
Like you I am also in a dilemma too, do to the problems of gs2 weak wifi and no gps lock, they gave me the choice of phones if I wanted to replace it, I went for O3D, do to it's popularity it's seems out of stock and will get it nxt week.
However I now seem to be getting second thoughts, mostly the phone is good, but some say camera is poor, which am not happy about as picture quality is important to me, to be honest 2011 and 5MP just don't go together. And few other little things.
So I would also like to hear from people with both phones in hand and what they think of em.
coolfi said:
Like you I am also in a dilemma too, do to the problems of gs2 weak wifi and no gps lock, they gave me the choice of phones if I wanted to replace it, I went for O3D, do to it's popularity it's seems out of stock and will get it nxt week.
However I now seem to be getting second thoughts, mostly the phone is good, but some say camera is poor, which am not happy about as picture quality is important to me, to be honest 2011 and 5MP just don't go together. And few other little things.
So I would also like to hear from people with both phones in hand and what they think of em.
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Videocamera just got an update firmware V10d. Looks really good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C02tzF1sjjA
Unfortunately not for pictures. Lets hope in the next firmware it will also be upgraded.
You have to really LOVE 3D in order to justify this over the Galaxy S II.
The 3D effect is decent but in reality, it's just too gimmicky to be really useful at the moment. For example, if you take a picture in 3D, it's not really very good when in 2D, which means on your PC etc the camera performance isn't great.
Other than that, it falls short in every single area, though I suppose the wifi strength is a bit better.
I own both phones, so any questions, fire away.
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You have to really LOVE 3D in order to justify this over the Galaxy S II.
The 3D effect is decent but in reality, it's just too gimmicky to be really useful at the moment. For example, if you take a picture in 3D, it's not really very good when in 2D, which means on your PC etc the camera performance isn't great.
Other than that, it falls short in every single area, though I suppose the wifi strength is a bit better.
I own both phones, so any questions, fire away.
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What about the gps? Which locks faster without any other connection active, and how about sound and headphones? I don't much care about 3d to be honest.
I like the power of gs2 but 3d and hardware of o3d and resolution of sensation. All three phones have something that other does not, which makes it very hard to choose.
To cut it short, here is my comparison as I have both now:
Battery
GS2 - until the battery drain is fixed, you will need to try your luck. If nothing happens you can charge your phone once a day with light use meaning 2 hrs or mp3, light surfing and facebook etc. If the battery drain hit you, that will be less than 10 hours or even worse. If everything went well with correct tweaks, battery can last for around 18 hours.
O3D - with 3D game, you get 5 hours at most for the standard battery. That is when you play for 3~4 hours. Light usage is about 12 hours. If you tweak it right with background data off etc.. you get around 14~15 hours. The battery definitely won't give you one day
Connectivity
When it comes to this area, it's more like a speed vs stable
GS2 - data is fast with its 21mb, wifi is really weak even when compare to GS. If you have a very strong signal, it is fast thou. Connection recovery is not good compare to other brands, if it drops.. you have to wait for a while to get it back automatically.
O3D - data is at 14.4mb, wifi is much better than GS2. Connection recovery part is done much better than GS2 in general.
GPS
GS2 - forget it. It is better than the original GS where it never locks on. but it is nowhere to be really useful. I really hope that GPS works better on this phone.
O3D - very decent, it compares to the garmin-asus m10 which I have on hand. A small tips for everyone looking. get mapdroyd in market to use on O3D, then you'll have a good offline map.
Storage
GS2 - with its storage starting at 16GB It's enough to go even without external SD. 32GB coming out later, it would be a great bonus.
O3D - 8GB internal, can only say it is enough. The korea version comes with 16GB.. a bit envy
other things like memory, cpu, camera.. etc. both phones are springing off to different direction, really no point in comparing them as it is more a personal use and taste at that point.
simacca said:
I am considering selling my Samsung Galaxy S2 for the LG Optimus 3D, as after playing with one in a phone shop, I am really impressed with the 3D and build quality of the phone.
What I would like to know is, if the battery life is worse than the SGS2? I know it will be in 3D mode, but what about 2D?
I would also like to know if the phone gets warm/hot after extended use? I hate the way my SGS2 gets really hot around the ear piece and camera after only moderate use.
What is the App memory size?
What is the signal quality like on the O3d? My SGS2 varies quite a bit.
Anything else you can tell me to help make a decision?
I do like my SGS2, but i'm really liking the 3d and solid feel to the O3D.
Thanks.
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I got my O3D on Friday and I just love it.
I sold my SGS2 right away.
Here are my observations:
- The O3D feels like a brick comapred to the SGS2...the thickness and weight is very noticable. However, the O3D felt more solid because of this.
- The O3D does heat up with intensive usage (say watching an hour of 3D videos) but it is definitely nowhere as hot as the SGS2.
- I get better signal with the O3D
- I get better wifi signal with the O3D
- The SGS2 is a tad snappier than the O3D (especially with stock LG launcher...put on any other launcher and it's just as fast as the SGS2).
- The O3D charges way faster than the SGS2 (the SGS2 takes around 3 hours from 0-100 with phone off).
- The SGS2 has a slightly louder speaker (handsfree and earpiece)
- The music via headphones sounded better to me on the O3D.
- The O3d has a cover to protect the USB port. Yes, it's a hassle to open it every time but it does prevent dust from getting in.
- SGS2 Amoled has better blacks and more punchy colors (if you like that...some people don't like the cartoonish like colors). I was slightly disappointed with 2 SGS2's that I had...both developed dead\stuck pixels on the screen.
- Games run great on both phones (however asphalt 6 seemed to run on the O3D smoother)
- Battery, I can't really comment yet since I just got the O3D two days ago. I managed to use the O3D non stop from 100% charge and it lasted around 8 hours...I remember when I first got the SGS2 and playing with it nonstop lasted about 6 hours.
- SGS2 has twice more RAM than the O3D. On the SGS2 free memory would hover around 400 and on the O3D around 190.
- SGS2 has tons and tons of ROMS, tweaks and optimisations.
- GPS is definitely better on the O3D
- SGS2 has bigger (16GB vs 8GB) storage...good thing I have a 32GB microSD card
- The browser seemed to be tied just that in the O3D there are no checkered boxes.
In conclusion, I am very happy with the O3D. The 3D is pretty neat. The SGS2 is also an awesome phone and I was very happy with it but I wanted to try the 3D so I bought the 03D. Feel free to ask me any other questions.
One more question guys, when both phones are switched off which of the two looks more blacker? GS2 really looked nice on the table with it's noble black body, does the o3d look the same?
They are both more or less the same black visually physically.
The SGS2 has a more black above and below the screen...the O3D has two strips of greyish brushed metal.
On the back the SGS2 is more black as the O3D is grey on the back.
LOL...which phone looks blacker when it's switched off and on the table?? do people actually pick a phone that looks blacker while sitting doing nothing over another phone that looks 98% as black as the blackest black that ever blacked..thanks coolfi you made me laugh...
If 3D is something you want you will love it ignore the people saying its a gimmick as it isn't, and it really looks fantastic and I just couldn't watch 2D videos anymore on the gs2 they just looked like any other phone plain and flat.
The screen is nice on the gs2 but a few commented how it made pictures for example look un natural with colours and not how they really look, oversaturated was the common thing I got,colours were much brighter when viewing the pictures on screen than they looked in real life which isn't' realistic.
A certain person has said its a gimmick on another forum and 3D isn't important to him so why buy a 3D phone for me , , I personally use this phone more and watch way more videos than I used to on my previous and its only because of the 3D.
The battery is my only concern with it I could easily get 24 hours out of if the Gs2 but as I been told by so many I am on this more than any other phone I have had.
My choice came to this, what can the GS2 do that this can't and the answer was simple nothing, each have pros and cons but I can do everything that phone can do on this.
Then I thought this can do one thing it can't ever do and that is shoot 3D video and pictures and play films etc in 3D and for me this was the clincher.
Lets not forget its still on a stock rom so things can only get better and Froya doesn't really support dual core cpus so it's being held back at the moment. Gingerbread will make a huge difference as a it supports dual core better, but you will always be one step behind the updates on this phone, the GS2 has been upgraded to 2.4 now and we are only set to get 2.3 on this in October.
My mate had a Desire HD and messed on the Gs2, he said its a nice phone but apart from the camera side it offers me nothing over what I have now, and wouldn't buy one, he said the same when I tried a Sensation.
When he played some of the 3D videos a smile came on his face and he loved it I can't get him off it when he comes round now he always using the 3D side.
He has decided he is selling his phone and getting one of these himself, anyone who wants one should test one really as its the only way to see if it's for you.
In all for me and I bet for everyone that has one, I have a phone that won't just sit on the side not used as much as it should as finding 3D stuff to add and view I am still doing nearly 3 weeks after having one of these, in that time other phones had lost its novelty and got picked up when needed, make a call browse something on the net for example, this phone has issues but so do all phones, you won't get a perfect phone.
Using the GS2 as a media device wasn't that important as I said before a video played back looks only as good as any 2D phone apart from the screen, it had no wow factor, I can guarantee if you whipped out your GS2 to show friends a trailer for example, then your mate said oh btw look at it in 3D on this phone your GS2 will end up back in your pocket as your friends enjoy the 3D experience, that sums the phone up for me.
Just now I showed the O3D to the first person at work.
I showed her the Tahiti clip and when the water was splashing towards you...she literally ducked to avoid the water...
Thanks for all the replies guys.
Sounds like the heat problem is not as bad as the GS2. I don't mind a bit of warmth around the back, but if it heats the glass up around the front then it's a no go!
I understand that the still 2d picture quality is not as good as the GS2, but I only use the pics to upload to Facebook or share with other phones.
Battery life of the O3D does put me off because if it is worse than the GS2 in 2D mode it could be a deal breaker.
Has anyone tried the extended battery yet?
The main memory doesn't bother me as I can add a memory card.
The reserved 512mb doesn't seem be bothering people in other threads, so I suppose this isnt a problem?
I'm not really interested in benchmarks as long as the phone runs smoothly.
I do really love the 3d mode and like the idea of watching Avatar, playing 3d games, etc etc. (cant afford a 3dtv unfortunately).
Maybe I should just get a Nintendo 3DS as a companion to my GS2 lol..
i've only played with both phones for a short while but i bought the optimus for two main reasons;
1. the camera is better (it shoots 3d, and really damn good 3d at that).
2. dual channel memory. faster memory is better memory.
i'd heard the horror stories about weak signals with the gs2 and that there are continuing problems with the gps. gps functionality isnt a massive concern for me but signal strength is as i spend a lot of my time in basement gig venues so i need something that will have a reliable signal in a difficult sitch like that. my wifi tests showed the o3d to be capable of around the 20mb mark which is pretty great. i dont know why the rest of you seem to think it can only do around 14mb as i consistently get around 19.5-20mb.
the touchscreen on the o3d responds better from what i've seen but again i am only basing that on 1 day of use.
based on what i've seen yesterday in using the o3d almost continuously all day (new toy syndrome) the battery life is amazing as long as you can keep yourself out of 3d mode. anything that uses the parallax function eats the battery bigtime and this doesnt surprise me. that said, last night i flimed nearly an hour's worth of footage of a band in 3d starting from about 43% charge before the camera told me "the battery is not enough for the camera". it looks like the battery will last quite a while if you can resist playng with it all day.
the one thing that is definitely a dissapointment with the o3d is the led flash. it's weak as hell and doesn't even go off in 3d mode at all.
i'm absolutely happy with my choice and would go the same route again though. excited for CM7.1.
simacca said:
Thanks for all the replies guys.
Sounds like the heat problem is not as bad as the GS2. I don't mind a bit of warmth around the back, but if it heats the glass up around the front then it's a no go!
I understand that the still 2d picture quality is not as good as the GS2, but I only use the pics to upload to Facebook or share with other phones.
Battery life of the O3D does put me off because if it is worse than the GS2 in 2D mode it could be a deal breaker.
Has anyone tried the extended battery yet?
The main memory doesn't bother me as I can add a memory card.
The reserved 512mb doesn't seem be bothering people in other threads, so I suppose this isnt a problem?
I'm not really interested in benchmarks as long as the phone runs smoothly.
I do really love the 3d mode and like the idea of watching Avatar, playing 3d games, etc etc. (cant afford a 3dtv unfortunately).
Maybe I should just get a Nintendo 3DS as a companion to my GS2 lol..
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Its a tough choice for sure I have no regrets getting mine, the 3DS's 3D is nothing like on this phone, it doesn't look anyway as good and you certainly won't be getting 720p in 3D.
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Its a tough choice for sure I have no regrets getting mine, the 3DS's 3D is nothing like on this phone, it doesn't look anyway as good and you certainly won't be getting 720p in 3D.
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yeah i showed the 3d to a few friends last night who are big ds fans and they all said that the 3d on the optimus kicked the utter **** out of the 3ds.
hefonthefjords said:
i've only played with both phones for a short while but i bought the optimus for two main reasons;
1. the camera is better (it shoots 3d, and really damn good 3d at that).
2. dual channel memory. faster memory is better memory.
i'd heard the horror stories about weak signals with the gs2 and that there are continuing problems with the gps. gps functionality isnt a massive concern for me but signal strength is as i spend a lot of my time in basement gig venues so i need something that will have a reliable signal in a difficult sitch like that. my wifi tests showed the o3d to be capable of around the 20mb mark which is pretty great. i dont know why the rest of you seem to think it can only do around 14mb as i consistently get around 19.5-20mb.
the touchscreen on the o3d responds better from what i've seen but again i am only basing that on 1 day of use.
based on what i've seen yesterday in using the o3d almost continuously all day (new toy syndrome) the battery life is amazing as long as you can keep yourself out of 3d mode. anything that uses the parallax function eats the battery bigtime and this doesnt surprise me. that said, last night i flimed nearly an hour's worth of footage of a band in 3d starting from about 43% charge before the camera told me "the battery is not enough for the camera". it looks like the battery will last quite a while if you can resist playng with it all day.
the one thing that is definitely a dissapointment with the o3d is the led flash. it's weak as hell and doesn't even go off in 3d mode at all.
i'm absolutely happy with my choice and would go the same route again though. excited for CM7.1.
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Thanks..
I practically get an instant lock-on with my GPS indoors and outside with my GS2, and as for wifi, even on 1 bar in my back garden I get the same speeds as indoors near the router (about 15mb down and 3mb up on a 30 mb connection). I think the wifi bars on the GS2 are inaccurate more than anything else.
My phone signal wavers quite a lot on my GS2 which I notice indoors when making or receiving a call and can cause voices to break up.
The most important things for me is battery life compared to the GS2 and Heat problems. Also Signal strength
I love the smoothness of menus and the screen on my GS2 and the fact that I can run multiple apps without any slowdown.
I have to say the 3d is impressive on a 3DS with the slider on full. Camera's are a let down though, but games are better.
Decisions decisions.....

HTC Sensation help.

Okay, so the story so far:
I bought an unlocked SGS2 phone from Expansys USA and all was good out of the box EXCEPT the camera. I am calling them Monday either to exchange it for another one or to get my money back. I have been reading about the HTC Sensation and would like to know some feedback from actual everyday users.
1. How's the battery life?
I am coming from an Iphone 3gs and my battery lasts me the whole day with my use.
2. Are the bugs as bad as I have been reading?
The screen lockups, the phone getting really really hot, and the reception and voice quality being terrible.
3. Do you think it's worth it to leave my Grandfathered AT&T unlimited data plan and go to T-Mobile for this phone.
Thank you all for your input.
AJ
For battery life, I'm not to sure with stock because I had gotten the Anker 1900 mAh battery immediately when I bought the phone. It's only for 10 bucks on ebay and battery life is significantly longer for me. From 8-9 on stock to 12-14 on the Anker. The only issue you would have to worry about is the phone getting really hot. That's only if you overclock it. If your running stock, it does get hot but not has hot as overclocked. Call quality is awesome for me. There is no "death grip" either. If you need a phone now, this phone is awesome however should you wait, there will be better phones coming in the near future. (T-Mobile user here.)
How dies it compare to sgs2? Is sense better than what it has? I'm just so confused after getting a faulty sgs2 and seeing others rave about android.
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so I bought an unlocked SGS2 phone from Expansys USA and all was good out of the box EXCEPT the camera.
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then why in the world would you want to switch to another phone? i'd go with the devil i know. the perfect phone simply doesn't exist.
You'd almost be better off using one personally. Is there a T-Mobile store near you that you can visit to play with the phone? Battery life is great but keep in mind it all depends on usage. The Sensation has a 4.3" screen where the iPhone screen is much smaller. Bigger screen = more battery usage. Call quality and camera are fantastic. I do experience the "death grip" issue as they call it. If I hold my phone much like you would a PSP (where both hands cup the sides) I tend to lose a bar of WiFi near the router; one bar (full bars without death grip) in the next room (roughly 15ft. away).
As for Sense, it's a love it or hate it type of relationship. I liked it when it first came out (S3) but after playing with it, I realized how much (more) I prefer AOSP (stock Android) over the manufacturers UI. Thankfully with S-OFF we can flash AOSP ROMs as they become available. There's always options when it comes to the software.
With the "death grip" factor aside (some say it doesn't exist, I myself see it in front of me), it's a great phone. I personally don't play many games so the DG issue really isn't an issue.
The camera on the sgs2 is messed up on mine i meant to say. It has a broken sensor in it. I don't want to keep sending phones back and forth via freed when I could just walk into a store.

[Q] Upgrading from an Inspire/DHD, thoughts?

I've been using my Inspire since last spring and it's really an excellent phone, especially with custom ROMs and kernels. Build quality is excellent, battery is decent, at 1.2ghz still plenty fast enough for all my uses. It really does everything I need it to.
I've been eyeing up the HOX as an upgrade in June, but is it really worth it? Other than the new (gorgeous) screen and a faster CPU, it doesn't really do much more than my Inspire does. As a photographer, the camera isn't a huge deal to me since I'll bring around my DSLR if I want to get legitimately nice photos.
Someone is willing to buy my Inspire for $150, so money isn't the problem. I'm just afraid to drop my Inspire for the HOX, with some of the problems I've been seeing around here. My Inspire is rock solid: I've dropped it plenty and it still holds up, no weird screen issues, multi-tasking works... it seems like all the problems the HOX is having my Inspire doesn't.
Any thoughts from someone who's went this route? Thanks!
Just looking at the GHz number on a CPU alone is not a good comparison of how a phone performs. Older phones like the Inspire really don't hold a candle to the One X. The thing is perfectly smooth within the OS, and opening many apps is nearly instantaneous (that would take several seconds on my old phone). It feels a world apart from my old Desire Z (same generation as the DHD, just slightly slower CPU and less RAM). No, it won't do anything that your Inspire doesn't already do. But the One X is so much more fluid and snappy, it just makes for a much more pleasurable experience overall.
The strength of a camera phone is obviously not in its picture quality when compared to a DSLR camera, but rather in catching the moments when you don't have your "real" camera. I love a camera phone for catching the spontaneous moments with my toddler, when I don't have my DSLR. And for sending those pics by MMS to my wife or other family. For that purpose, the camera on the One X is spectacular. Just about makes point-and-shoot cameras moot, with the great picture quality and nearly zero shutter lag. If you don't use your camera phone in this way, the camera on the One X probably won't make much difference. But if you make any significant use of a camera phone, trust me, the camera on the One X will impress you.
The multi-tasking "issue" depends a lot on how you use your phone. For me, I don't run lots of simultaneous apps. Music Player or Pandora work fine simultaneously with Navigation, and that's about as much simultaneous apps I run for the most part. Browsers reload a little more often than they should, but the only (minor) annoyance I've noticed. But I know people have legit complaints about certain apps not working simultaneously, or things like games having to reload after getting an SMS.
My One X doesn't have the light leak on the screen that some have experienced. Hard to say how common it is. But I'm guessing most of them are fine. You can't really fault a new phone for a random defect, as all phones have some kind of defect. And you can always ask to power on at the store, and check for the light leak, if you're really that concerned about it. (they powered on my phone anyway).
The phone isn't perfect. But to me its just an outstanding phone. Wired magazine called it "the best Android phone you can buy right now, period".
My HTC One X came with the bottom of the screen peeling off [its sealed down with glue, so it can be removed to access the interior parts] but where I purchased it from in store, they replaced it right away with no issues at all. But the replacement unit I got works just fine. NOTHING wrong with it, which I love.
In comparison to the HTC Aria -> Sony X10i;
The X10 seemed to be much snappier than the Aria.
X10 -> HTC One X;
Wow. Just, Wow. The X10 had a 1ghz processor which I was content with, but having a more powerful processor was so nice. Angry birds on the old X10 was somewhat buggy, but I'm yet to have a stutter or halt with the One X.
The ONLY thing I must warn against, is the AT&T One X model, Because we have locked bootloader. Sure, a Root [which is so nice to have<3] but as far as rating goes, I have to give it a 7/10. ONLY way to get those 3 more points, Would be a custom rom and underclock. My phone already lasts the whole day with my usage but on days when I'm bored at work or on lunch break and want to watch a video, I'd like the power to pass the time.
So all in all, 7/10. Locked Bootloader, No custom roms are the only issues I have.
I do not regret buying the One X though. I purchased the white one because in store it looks flashy but any smudge [food, dirt, whatever] comes right off with a bit of pressure and your fingernail.
There's no need to upgrade from an inspire, unless you want to show your phone off. That being said, the difference is certainly noticeable inin almost all aspects. Personally I'm most imposed by the display quality. Battery life is a bit better when comparing stock to stock, but about the same to a rooted and custom ROM inspire. I only upgraded because I show off my phone a lot, especially to my friends who are phone salesman, and because I use it more than anything else I own
One thing is the same, crap speaker. What is it with htc and low speaker volume?
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One thing is the same, crap speaker. What is it with htc and low speaker volume?
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My speaker is quite loud, louder than my captivate and iPhone 4 anyways.
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Thanks for all the opinions everyone! It definitely does seem to be a better phone in most regards, and as someone who is constantly trying to keep his gadgets as up to date and fast as possible, the upgrade seems obvious.
And, as dreid89 said, I sure wouldn't mind showing off a bit. With that nice new screen and snappy UI, gotta shot some of those Apple fanboys up
Now... the matter is waiting until my upgrade and (hopefully) getting the HOX through Amazon since it's so much cheaper!
I recently upgraded from the inspire to the HOX and I would tell you this, do it. Do it as fast as you can because it is totally better. I was rooted running a custom rom and HOX still smokes it on every level. Battery life is better, screen is amazing, beats audio is better. I then sold my rooted inspire on eBay for $255. Right now the HOX is $119 at amazon wireless. I came out ahead $140 bucks. Totally worth it. The only regret I have is not being able to get the phone in white. I originally ordered it in white but apple screwed me over there. Not sure how but amazon has the gray in stock.

Should I buy the HTC ONE S ?

Hi.
I need your help. I'm confused about that device because I read about his problems (For example: THE Sensitive button).
And about his poor battery life which can't survive for one full day..
And that I can get only 10GB of RAM, so I can't put much apps/movies/music/photos.
And I hope that it doesn't get too hot in heavy / easy use.
But I still like this model.
I'm wondering if I should buy this model or to buy Galaxy s2 / something else.
(I don't want big screen - 4.3 is enough for me P: )
- Do you recommend me to buy it or to buy something else?
- Please tell me everything you know about this model - the good and the bad
It's really important for me.
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Guys please, soon I have birthday, so I don't have much time
LalyGirl said:
Hi.
I need your help. I'm confused about that device because I read about his problems (For example: THE Sensitive button).
And about his poor battery life which can't survive for one full day..
And that I can get only 10GB of RAM, so I can't put much apps/movies/music/photos.
And I hope that it doesn't get too hot in heavy / easy use.
But I still like this model.
I'm wondering if I should buy this model or to buy Galaxy s2 / something else.
(I don't want big screen - 4.3 is enough for me P: )
- Do you recommend me to buy it or to buy something else?
- Please tell me everything you know about this model - the good and the bad
It's really important for me.
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Battery life - User dependant. Also other factors can impact this such as signal strength, type of data used, screen brightness. Looking at the battery stats thread it seems fine, better than my HOX and that's saying something.
10GB of user space available. 4GB for system & 2GB for apps. Plenty for apps. You have 10gb available to you for music, movies, photos etc. For some this is enough for others not so much. But with the ability to sync items to cloud storage for most it shouldn't be an issue.
Heat - Can't comment, but from various reading it seems cooler than other devices.
Not got the device but comparing to let's say the SGS2 this seems to have a higher resolution screen despite having a pentile screen.
Audio - Read it has one of the cleanest outputs on a mobile device, not heard it personally but it should be fine.
CPU - The S4 is one of the best dual cores around, so much there is a shortage and pretty soon they will switch to the S3. So grab the S4 version whilst you still can. It's plenty fast and outbenches some of the quads out there.
Sense - HTC's overlay, you'll love it or hate it. I love it. Has good contact management, lovely widgets, good for social networking, and such but can be a memory hog.
Camera - HTC has done a good job on the camera front. Like my HOX I like the pictures that it takes and the burst mode is a blessing. The software is also good and easy to use.
LED - This has a notification light, albeit 2 colours only compared to some other devices but at least it has one.
To sum it up it's a good mid range device. And should serve you well. Not having the device myself I'm only giving you my thoughts from reading reviews and taking some parts of my HOX.
nikzDHD said:
Battery life - User dependant. Also other factors can impact this such as signal strength, type of data used, screen brightness. Looking at the battery stats thread it seems fine, better than my HOX and that's saying something.
10GB of user space available. 4GB for system & 2GB for apps. Plenty for apps. You have 10gb available to you for music, movies, photos etc. For some this is enough for others not so much. But with the ability to sync items to cloud storage for most it shouldn't be an issue.
Heat - Can't comment, but from various reading it seems cooler than other devices.
Not got the device but comparing to let's say the SGS2 this seems to have a higher resolution screen despite having a pentile screen.
Audio - Read it has one of the cleanest outputs on a mobile device, not heard it personally but it should be fine.
CPU - The S4 is one of the best dual cores around, so much there is a shortage and pretty soon they will switch to the S3. So grab the S4 version whilst you still can. It's plenty fast and outbenches some of the quads out there.
Sense - HTC's overlay, you'll love it or hate it. I love it. Has good contact management, lovely widgets, good for social networking, and such but can be a memory hog.
Camera - HTC has done a good job on the camera front. Like my HOX I like the pictures that it takes and the burst mode is a blessing. The software is also good and easy to use.
LED - This has a notification light, albeit 2 colours only compared to some other devices but at least it has one.
To sum it up it's a good mid range device. And should serve you well. Not having the device myself I'm only giving you my thoughts from reading reviews and taking some parts of my HOX.
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I like your comment a lot! thank u!
By the way, If I will buy the HTC SENSATION XE and install on it the android 4, it could be better then the HTC ONE S ? Because it has better battery, and I can use memory card.
LalyGirl said:
I like your comment a lot! thank u!
By the way, If I will buy the HTC SENSATION XE and install on it the android 4, it could be better then the HTC ONE S ? Because it has better battery, and I can use memory card.
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I'd say think about longer term, it's an older device. The One S is the newer device and I'd be thinking about Jelly Bean the next android version. One S being newer would more likely be quicker to get it than the XE. It'll have more support from HTC.
Looking at the specs of both phones:
HOS is faster,
HOS reportedly has better battery life,
HOS has better screen in regards to viewing angles and sunlight compared to the first generation SLCD, again this could be subjective,
HOS is thinner and ligther,
HOS has the better camera,
HOS has native Sense 4 support,
HOS has 1gb of RAM compared to XEs 768MB,
You'll enjoy either but if you can I'd opt for the HOS if storage space isn't that important to you.
LalyGirl said:
I like your comment a lot! thank u!
By the way, If I will buy the HTC SENSATION XE and install on it the android 4, it could be better then the HTC ONE S ? Because it has better battery, and I can use memory card.
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I have both the Sensation and One S and there is really no comparison, the One S is much better. I still like my Sensation but the One S is better looking and feeling, has better battery life and a nicer screen, and is much faster.
I haven't had any of the problems that people have reported here (sensitive button, poor reception etc.). Battery life has been good for me so far, and while it does warm up when you're using it heavily it's not "hot" by any means.
The lack of SD slot is not really a problem for me, but whether you can live with it depends on your usage. I've never used more than 4GB of SD card on my Sensation, so the 10GB on board is more than enough.
The only problems I would be concerned about are:
1) Chipping on the black version. I honestly think it's overblown (like most issues with all phones, only people who have problems speak up), but if you are really worried about it get the silver one. It looks even better IMO and it won't chip as the finishing process is different.
2) Getting the 1.7GHz Snapdragon S3 version instead of the 1.5GHz S4. The S3 is the previous generation chip, used in the Sensation, and is slower (despite the higher clock speed, the architecture is different) and uses more power. I don't know if there's a way to tell what you're going to get beforehand, though. Only thing I can think of is if you see "1.7GHz" anywhere on or near it, stay away.
Read my one S review (and all the other posts by me in that thread as well, as I have updated some stuff like wifi speeds and battery life, last update was today, so the last post will be useful for you) in sig and also read my post here addressing your issues/questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
As for the heat, only gets hot when you're charging it, but this is the same for every device, in use for games etc. mine is pretty cold to touch
There is also a video in my last post in the neowin review thread showing a thermal output test comparison between the GS 2, Razr and the S.
nikzDHD said:
I'd say think about longer term, it's an older device. The One S is the newer device and I'd be thinking about Jelly Bean the next android version. One S being newer would more likely be quicker to get it than the XE. It'll have more support from HTC.
Looking at the specs of both phones:
HOS is faster,
HOS reportedly has better battery life,
HOS has better screen in regards to viewing angles and sunlight compared to the first generation SLCD, again this could be subjective,
HOS is thinner and ligther,
HOS has the better camera,
HOS has native Sense 4 support,
HOS has 1gb of RAM compared to XEs 768MB,
You'll enjoy either but if you can I'd opt for the HOS if storage space isn't that important to you.
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Ok so I will stay with the one s.
And how is the speaker of the hos/hox ?
Nick L said:
I have both the Sensation and One S and there is really no comparison, the One S is much better. I still like my Sensation but the One S is better looking and feeling, has better battery life and a nicer screen, and is much faster.
I haven't had any of the problems that people have reported here (sensitive button, poor reception etc.). Battery life has been good for me so far, and while it does warm up when you're using it heavily it's not "hot" by any means.
The lack of SD slot is not really a problem for me, but whether you can live with it depends on your usage. I've never used more than 4GB of SD card on my Sensation, so the 10GB on board is more than enough.
The only problems I would be concerned about are:
1) Chipping on the black version. I honestly think it's overblown (like most issues with all phones, only people who have problems speak up), but if you are really worried about it get the silver one. It looks even better IMO and it won't chip as the finishing process is different.
2) Getting the 1.7GHz Snapdragon S3 version instead of the 1.5GHz S4. The S3 is the previous generation chip, used in the Sensation, and is slower (despite the higher clock speed, the architecture is different) and uses more power. I don't know if there's a way to tell what you're going to get beforehand, though. Only thing I can think of is if you see "1.7GHz" anywhere on or near it, stay away.
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THANK U! and i don't understand you, which one is better - 1.7 GHz or 1.5GHz ?
Terminator19 said:
Read my one S review (and all the other posts by me in that thread as well, as I have updated some stuff like wifi speeds and battery life, last update was today, so the last post will be useful for you) in sig and also read my post here addressing your issues/questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
As for the heat, only gets hot when you're charging it, but this is the same for every device, in use for games etc. mine is pretty cold to touch
There is also a video in my last post in the neowin review thread showing a thermal output test comparison between the GS 2, Razr and the S.
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So you like this device as I see Good review by the way! I think that this one is good for me.
And how is the speaker?
LalyGirl said:
Ok so I will stay with the one s.
And how is the speaker of the hos/hox ?
THANK U! and i don't understand you, which one is better - 1.7 GHz or 1.5GHz ?
So you like this device as I see Good review by the way! I think that this one is good for me.
And how is the speaker?
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Speaker for the HOX is fine, not as loud as say the SGS3 but it's consistent where as the SGS3 can be distorted on higher volumes. I prefer the ringtone sounds out of the HOX than SGS3.
Nick L said:
I have both the Sensation and One S and there is really no comparison, the One S is much better. I still like my Sensation but the One S is better looking and feeling, has better battery life and a nicer screen, and is much faster.
I haven't had any of the problems that people have reported here (sensitive button, poor reception etc.). Battery life has been good for me so far, and while it does warm up when you're using it heavily it's not "hot" by any means.
The lack of SD slot is not really a problem for me, but whether you can live with it depends on your usage. I've never used more than 4GB of SD card on my Sensation, so the 10GB on board is more than enough.
The only problems I would be concerned about are:
1) Chipping on the black version. I honestly think it's overblown (like most issues with all phones, only people who have problems speak up), but if you are really worried about it get the silver one. It looks even better IMO and it won't chip as the finishing process is different.
2) Getting the 1.7GHz Snapdragon S3 version instead of the 1.5GHz S4. The S3 is the previous generation chip, used in the Sensation, and is slower (despite the higher clock speed, the architecture is different) and uses more power. I don't know if there's a way to tell what you're going to get beforehand, though. Only thing I can think of is if you see "1.7GHz" anywhere on or near it, stay away.
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Terminator19 said:
Read my one S review (and all the other posts by me in that thread as well, as I have updated some stuff like wifi speeds and battery life, last update was today, so the last post will be useful for you) in sig and also read my post here addressing your issues/questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
As for the heat, only gets hot when you're charging it, but this is the same for every device, in use for games etc. mine is pretty cold to touch
There is also a video in my last post in the neowin review thread showing a thermal output test comparison between the GS 2, Razr and the S.
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Speaker for the HOX is fine, not as loud as say the SGS3 but it's consistent where as the SGS3 can be distorted on higher volumes. I prefer the ringtone sounds out of the HOX than SGS3.
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Ok and when you use your smartphone as a cellphone (Make a call to someone), so how does the person on the other side hear you? Clean? Horrible ? Loud?
LalyGirl said:
So you like this device as I see Good review by the way! I think that this one is good for me.
And how is the speaker?
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Yup, I love it!
Thanks
Speaker is great, better than the GS 2 all round.
Here is what GSMarena had to say about the audio:
The cleanest audio output we have seen
The HTC One S performance in our audio quality test came as a really pleasant surprise to us. It appears that the Beats influence hasn't been limited to a single equalizer preset this time as the smartphone delivers the cleanest output we have seen from any device so far.
When connected to an active external amplifier, the HTC One S audio is simply flawless - volume levels are a little above average and it got excellent scores on every part of our test.
What's most impressive though is the One S retains virtually the same performance when you plug in a pair of headphones. The stereo crosstalk takes the tiniest dip of any smartphone we've seen so far, while the rest of the readings are either totally unaffected or worsen by an undetectable amount. Volume levels remain the same too, so it's arguably the most impressive overall performance to date.
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LalyGirl said:
Ok and when you use your smartphone as a cellphone (Make a call to someone), so how does the person on the other side hear you? Clean? Horrible ? Loud?
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Very good! Call quality is great for me.
Loud (can adjust the volume) and clean.
You have dual mics, so any background noise is blocked out Obviously extreme noise like cars racing right beside you and loud music might not be completely blocked out and besides you won't be able to make the other person out anyway
Terminator19 said:
Yup, I love it!
Thanks
Speaker is great, better than the GS 2 all round.
Here is what GSMarena had to say about the audio:
Very good! Call quality is great for me.
Loud (can adjust the volume) and clean.
You have dual mics, so any background noise is blocked out Obviously extreme noise like cars racing right beside you and loud music might not be completely blocked out and besides you won't be able to make the other person out anyway
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So far, I see that people prefer HTS ONE S
That's nice, and now I really want it XDDDDD
I've just upgraded to this phone from the Desire S. I was thinking about getting the One X or the S3 too but I want a high end mobile phone not a mini tablet. This phone is amazing coming from a rooted desire S, its so fast and smooth I don't plan on rooting it.
My advise is to simply get this phone.
pumpernickel77 said:
I've just upgraded to this phone from the Desire S. I was thinking about getting the One X or the S3 too but I want a high end mobile phone not a mini tablet. This phone is amazing coming from a rooted desire S, its so fast and smooth I don't plan on rooting it.
My advise is to simply get this phone.
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Ok, I think I'll buy it
Jesus christ, how old are you?
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iArtisan said:
Jesus christ, how old are you?
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Are you asking me or someone else?
1) The battery life on this phone sucks. Expect to be getting no more than 4 hours of usage on average. The iphone 4/4s gets a solid 6 hours of usage. Thats 150% more battery life and I don't need to fiddle with the settings at all to achieve this.
2) The hardware has major design flaws. First of all the black one has that chipping problem with the paint. Well I have used my phone for less than 2 months and it looks butchered as hell. People complain about the iphone 4/4s, well I dropped a gazillion times and it still looked almost brand new when I sold it. I dropped the 1S one time! and the paint already came off. The front camera is recessed and gathers dust like crazy. It's impossible to clean it because its recessed and the dust has no where to go. Crap and dust also builds up near the top plastic cap. The speakers are also located exactly on the back of the phone. So if you put your phone on your table, you can't hear it ringing. Not only that the volume is so low. I missed tons of calls.
3) The community for this phone sucks. There is barely any activity on the fora and development for custom roms is stagnating. I mean sense is crap and there is only like 1 guy working on cm9? And correct me if I am wrong but the last version of AOKP is like from 3 weeks ago with tons of bugs. Now look at the Galaxy Nexus or the 1X fora. Or look at the SGS3 fora and that phone has not even been completely released yet. Its crazy. And this is worrying cause even sense has tons of bugs. There is for example this 3g/H switching that still hasn't been fixed as far as I know.
4) Then there is this low resolution pentile screen. Well its definitely ok and you shouldn't worry about it. But you WILL notice a huge difference if you put it next to the nexus, 1X or the iphone 4/4s and you will run in to all kinds of trouble with apps. For example while my own 720p videos looks good on this phone, youtube videos will look crap no matter how high you put the settings. There are tons of these annoying things. The screen is the reason why its not quite yet a flagship device while it could have been.
That being said I think its the best android phone on the market. Its the fastest android phone on the market. It doesn't have a cheap flimsy plastic body and it has a thin and light design. Aluminum feels really good on the hand especially when its cold. Its like 100 dollars/euro cheaper than the 1X and SGS3. I'd wait for the iphone 5 though. And if that turns out to be nothing or if the wait is too long then go ahead and purchase the 1S cause thats what I recommend out of the top3 android phones.
wilcoholic said:
1) The battery life on this phone sucks. Expect to be getting no more than 4 hours of usage on average. The iphone 4/4s gets a solid 6 hours of usage. Thats 150% more battery life and I don't need to fiddle with the settings at all to achieve this.
2) The hardware has major design flaws. First of all the black one has that chipping problem with the paint. Well I have used my phone for less than 2 months and it looks butchered as hell. People complain about the iphone 4/4s, well I dropped a gazillion times and it still looked almost brand new when I sold it. I dropped the 1S one time! and the paint already came off. The front camera is recessed and gathers dust like crazy. It's impossible to clean it because its recessed and the dust has no where to go. Crap and dust also builds up near the top plastic cap. The speakers are also located exactly on the back of the phone. So if you put your phone on your table, you can't hear it ringing. Not only that the volume is so low. I missed tons of calls.
3) The community for this phone sucks. There is barely any activity on the fora and development for custom roms is stagnating. I mean sense is crap and there is only like 1 guy working on cm9? And correct me if I am wrong but the last version of AOKP is like from 3 weeks ago with tons of bugs. Now look at the Galaxy Nexus or the 1X fora. Or look at the SGS3 fora and that phone has not even been completely released yet. Its crazy. And this is worrying cause even sense has tons of bugs. There is for example this 3g/H switching that still hasn't been fixed as far as I know.
4) Then there is this low resolution pentile screen. Well its definitely ok and you shouldn't worry about it. But you WILL notice a huge difference if you put it next to the nexus, 1X or the iphone 4/4s and you will run in to all kinds of trouble with apps. For example while my own 720p videos looks good on this phone, youtube videos will look crap no matter how high you put the settings. There are tons of these annoying things. The screen is the reason why its not quite yet a flagship device while it could have been.
That being said I think its the best android phone on the market. Its the fastest android phone on the market. It doesn't have a cheap flimsy plastic body and it has a thin and light design. Aluminum feels really good on the hand especially when its cold. Its like 100 dollars/euro cheaper than the 1X and SGS3. I'd wait for the iphone 5 though. And if that turns out to be nothing or if the wait is too long then go ahead and purchase the 1S cause thats what I recommend out of the top3 android phones.
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OK, So do you recommend me to buy it ??
Or should I buy the sony xperia s ??
wilcoholic said:
1) The battery life on this phone sucks. Expect to be getting no more than 4 hours of usage on average. The iphone 4/4s gets a solid 6 hours of usage. Thats 150% more battery life and I don't need to fiddle with the settings at all to achieve this.
2) The hardware has major design flaws. First of all the black one has that chipping problem with the paint. Well I have used my phone for less than 2 months and it looks butchered as hell. People complain about the iphone 4/4s, well I dropped a gazillion times and it still looked almost brand new when I sold it. I dropped the 1S one time! and the paint already came off. The front camera is recessed and gathers dust like crazy. It's impossible to clean it because its recessed and the dust has no where to go. Crap and dust also builds up near the top plastic cap. The speakers are also located exactly on the back of the phone. So if you put your phone on your table, you can't hear it ringing. Not only that the volume is so low. I missed tons of calls.
3) The community for this phone sucks. There is barely any activity on the fora and development for custom roms is stagnating. I mean sense is crap and there is only like 1 guy working on cm9? And correct me if I am wrong but the last version of AOKP is like from 3 weeks ago with tons of bugs. Now look at the Galaxy Nexus or the 1X fora. Or look at the SGS3 fora and that phone has not even been completely released yet. Its crazy. And this is worrying cause even sense has tons of bugs. There is for example this 3g/H switching that still hasn't been fixed as far as I know.
4) Then there is this low resolution pentile screen. Well its definitely ok and you shouldn't worry about it. But you WILL notice a huge difference if you put it next to the nexus, 1X or the iphone 4/4s and you will run in to all kinds of trouble with apps. For example while my own 720p videos looks good on this phone, youtube videos will look crap no matter how high you put the settings. There are tons of these annoying things. The screen is the reason why its not quite yet a flagship device while it could have been.
That being said I think its the best android phone on the market. Its the fastest android phone on the market. It doesn't have a cheap flimsy plastic body and it has a thin and light design. Aluminum feels really good on the hand especially when its cold. Its like 100 dollars/euro cheaper than the 1X and SGS3. I'd wait for the iphone 5 though. And if that turns out to be nothing or if the wait is too long then go ahead and purchase the 1S cause thats what I recommend out of the top3 android phones.
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Once again, all of that is in YOUR opinion and from your usage only as well, plenty of people including me have had the exact opposite to you. Just because you experience problems doesn't mean that every one else will....
1. Is that on screen time your talking about? If so that is very good! (depending on usage and screen brightness) No other android phone gets anywhere near that unless the screens are set to like 0% and airplane mode enabled for a bit. Just look at my review and you will see the usage that I am getting from a single charge, now go and find me an android phone on stock ROM with a stock battery that can beat that (apart from the motorola razzr for obvious reasons). The iphone 4/4s also seem to have a problem with battery life for quite a few people, heck apple have even released a number of updates iirc to try and fix the battery drain
Plus don't forget that the iphone 4/4s doesn't have the same amount to do as an android phone.
2. The MAO issue is not a "hardware" problem, but a design fault.... Also I have had my phone since release day and still have no signs of chipping anywhere apart from inside the USB port plus HTC have addressed this now as they have got a design, which has a bevelled USB and less sharper edges. Well you were extremely lucky with your 4s then as due to the build of it and being mostly glass, the screen is almost always guaranteed to shatter when dropped......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
It all depends on where abouts the ground impacts the mobile, you could be lucky or not so lucky with any device. If you want to be safe than sorry then a case is a necessary item for all mobiles, even the GS 2. Some devices are just more durable than others.
I have had no problems with dust getting under my screen, had my mobile since April, yes dust does gather in the front camera part, however, a quick blow and wipe with a pencil in a cloth sorts that problem out.
Emmmm what? The volume is amplified a wee bit when it is placed on the desk due to that reason, you can raise the volume as well you know or use a louder ring tone, you must be pretty deaf if you can't hear your mobile ringing......
3. The community isn't great, but it is starting to pick up now especially since the kernel source was posted, there are a few good ROMs from what I have read such as trickdroid and leedroid. Sense is crap in your opinion, many people including me love it and I for one won't be changing to a stock ICS ROM as I don't want to loose the features of sense, which IMO are better than the alternatives. The gallery, dialer, calendar, clock app are superb and not to mention the sense camera along with all the features, which you won't find on any other mobile or stock ICS ROM. Of course the galaxy nexus is going to have a damn good developing community, it's only the official/stock android phone that all the developers use to develop apps for and was the first phone to have a 720P display. The developing community here will never be as good as the the 1X or GS 3 community as they are the "flagship" devices and the phones that everyone will go for just for because of that "term"
Also the tegra chipset is apparently proving to be hard to work with for the developers with the 1X due to nvidia lack of support.
What are these bugs you speak off? I haven't had any problems with mine, super stable, super quick and smooth, multi-tasking is fine as I have disabled a lot of sense stuff and apps that I don't need and am using apex etc. instead.
If you look at my other post addressing issues you will see that I don't have the 3G/H bug, along with many other people.
The iphone is well known to have signal issues as well, not remember the 4 or 4s release where people were complaining about terrible signal, and apple said essentially "you're holding the phone the wrong way" and had to give out free bumper cases to solve the issue as it was a problem with the new antenna that they were using......
4. There is no problem with the screen, sure it ain't 720P and doesn't use RGB matrix, but it is perfectly good and better than most other mobiles screens apart from the ones you mentioned along with a couple of SE mobiles. The screen is nice and sharp still, the only areas I notice the pentile matrix is with white text on black backgrounds and some icons and even still I have to put my eyes right up to the screen. Plus the reason HTC went with with the pentile version is because the battery life is better with it than the RGB version (same reason Samsung went with pentile on the GS 3 instead of RGB). What kind of trouble have you run into with all these apps that you speak of because of the screen? What on earth are you talking about again??? Youtube videos will look crap no matter what settings you put them on??? The youtube videos look great.
Seriously, it sounds to me like you have a faulty one s if that is truly what you are experiencing.......
And after all that you still think the 1S is the best android device there is
LalyGirl said:
OK, So do you recommend me to buy it ??
Or should I buy the sony xperia s ??
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Just buy it. It's a fine phone. These have been snapped up by many in the UK past few days due to a cheap contract deal so many more HOS users in the pipeline.
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First Impressions: New V10 coming from Nexus 6 (VZW)

My first thoughts after having V10 for couple of hours (most in comparison to Nexus 6, but not all). I didn't need a new phone, but just get bored after a while and upgrade fairly often:
- I like the feel, width is nice and feels noticeably smaller in hand. Don't notice the extra few grams weight and feels balanced in my hand. Like the grippy feel and will probably go without case a while because of "durability". That in itself will make all the difference in size anyway as I used an Incipio case on N6. Not as much to protect it, but I like to set my phone on center console of F150 as I drive, and need a grippy back to keep it from sliding off when stopping/accelerating quickly...V10 fits that need without case and N6 had too slick of a back. The above size comparison is done without case on N6 though.
- Screen not as bright as N6 at comparable settings (40%) sitting in my office. Gonna have to see about that one as I don't want to sacrifice battery too much to get brightness level I like. I really like how the screen looks though. I get around the big icon thing by using Apex so no that's not even an issue.
- Phone is every bit as much, if not more snappy than N6, which is rooted on Marshmallow using beans Pure nexus rom. That gave me great battery life, soo I will update my battery life after a couple of days with this phone.
- Call quality is amazing compared to N6. Not sure if HD/call over VoLTE is reason why or not...I had it disabled on N6 because I couldn't get good call quality in my office due to tower location. Which leads me to this, V10 has much better 4G/LTE signal on VZW than my N6, at least sitting in my office where I was on fringe before, with data and calls hit or miss. Sucky thing about N6 was it would get just enough signal to not switch to 3G, will be interesting to see how that works on V10.
- Plugging in the phone gives me a "fast-charging" notification but doesn't seem to charge as fast as N6, by a decent margin...will have to do a real time comparison to be sure.
- Double tap to wake is faster on V10.
- 2nd screen seems useful to me, either for contacts or favorite apps, as I like to keep my home screen clutter at a minimum. Will see which one makes the grade permanently, hopefully no butt-dialing.
- Camera is pretty nice but I'm not much of a photo buff, but few I have taken around office and outside this afternoon look pretty darn nice.
- Speaker is louder than my N6 for incoming ring tones but kind of tinny. Haven't played music or used speaker phone yet.
- Overall, I like the phone a lot after playing around for a couple of hours, but will be doing a lot more fiddling over the next few days and hope to update this post accordingly.
hovercraftdriver said:
- Plugging in the phone gives me a "fast-charging" notification but doesn't seem to charge as fast as N6, by a decent margin...will have to do a real time comparison to be sure.
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The LG v10 like the LG G4, disables quick charge when you have the main screen on. Speculation is to save the battery from the added heat lowering it's life expectancy.
The v10 charges slightly faster (2800mA) than the G4 (2200mA) in quick charge mode, and slightly slower than the Moto Nexus 6 (3200mA) in my experiences.
EDIT: Below I included screenshots today while charging using a Tronsmart car charger. 2840mA screen off, 980mA and dropping while screen on.
I use my Samsung adaptive quick charger because it charges noticeably faster than the provided LG quick charger.
I have a tmo nexus 6. I am considering switching. Is it worth it?
Ceasare said:
I have a tmo nexus 6. I am considering switching. Is it worth it?
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I came from the N6. That being said, I have come from a long line of Nexus phones, since the N4, actually. But since this isn't offered through the carriers, I figured I'd try something new. Loving it. Google is offering many way to give a stock experience these days. The launcher and most apps through the play store I mean.
Thanks, does the screen have to be turned to full brightness to compare and operate outside? That's my only fear
Ceasare said:
Thanks, does the screen have to be turned to full brightness to compare and operate outside? That's my only fear
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I too came from the n6 to the v10 and I have say that v10 is easier to see in the sun without having to turn brightness all the way up.:good:
I guess many of us were getting bored off our Nexus 6's bc I too am a convert to the V10. Most of the pros of the LG V10 were cons of the Nexus 6 and the only thing I miss so far was the dual front facing speakers.
I had an HTC One M7 before the Nexus 6 and I loved that phone. The V10 is winning me over similarly as well. Stock Android is overrated if the manufacturer gets it mostly right and packs in this many features.
DM725 said:
I guess many of us were getting bored off our Nexus 6's bc I too am a convert to the V10. Most of the pros of the LG V10 were cons of the Nexus 6 and the only thing I miss so far was the dual front facing speakers.
I had an HTC One M7 before the Nexus 6 and I loved that phone. The V10 is winning me over similarly as well. Stock Android is overrated if the manufacturer gets it mostly right and packs in this many features.
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i wished i could find a dialer like i had on my htc m8 sense

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