Please let me know the phones, that allows me to install any Mobile OS in it.. I know that HTC HD2 can have 5 os in it.. IS there any other phone supporting all oS?
i wish i have the answer to your question. I looking for a phone that supports WP7 and android. it seems that only HD2 have this support. I guess is because microsoft dont allow using the same hardware of WP7 devices on android devices on the same company, so it cannot use the source code of wp7 drivers to make android drivers. Then the community have to create drivers from scratch, witch is hard.
Its not necessary that the phone should support WP7 also. Is there any other mobile that will support all other remaining OS?
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I was wondering if anyone has explored the possibility of porting Windows Mobile to the android devices.
I know that it's been done the other way.
gprimr1 said:
I was wondering if anyone has explored the possibility of porting Windows Mobile to the android devices.
I know that it's been done the other way.
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Though many have requested it, Windows Mobile has never been ported to any device it was not shipped on. Windows Mobile is extremely complex at the lower levels, consisting of many hardware dependant components which make up the most critical parts of the OS. In addition, it's closed source, so there's no way to modify the source like when Android/Linux is ported to a Windows-based device. In short, don't hold your breath for a release, it won't happen.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Though many have requested it, Windows Mobile has never been ported to any device it was not shipped on. Windows Mobile is extremely complex at the lower levels, consisting of many hardware dependant components which make up the most critical parts of the OS. In addition, it's closed source, so there's no way to modify the source like when Android/Linux is ported to a Windows-based device. In short, don't hold your breath for a release, it won't happen.
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If its immposible to port WM to Android device then is it possible to port Android ROM on windows Mobile based device..like we do on pc i.installing windows Vista after formatting old OS.
@ psolunke
Yes its possible to get Android running on a WinMo device, its been done with a number of phones.
Basically without Windows Mobile being open source, the chances of it going the other way are slim to none. Not to mention that the HD2 is the only WinMo device with a capactive display while nearly all Android devices have one, which would make it hard to get even that to work.
i just want to know that why android operating system does not work directly in mobile devices
why there is need of development in it to use in all diffrent phones?
why it cant work directly like windows in pc does
and other question all others like bada os, symbien and apple os they all need they also need development or we can use them directly
if sumone didnt understand my question i will explain more
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windows we can install directly in any pc of any company or assembled
but android need development and designed for a seprate product of a specific brand
why?
no1 is intrestd in answring these questions ?
You are just kidding here right?
/Pun intended.
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[1] ....
[n] Windows has the complete set of drivers
[n+1] The manufacturer delivers the driver
Fundamentally, you're misunderstanding the situation. Windows does not run on any computer you can throw together. It runs on any computer that you can throw together that matches the evolving, de facto standard that started as the IBM PC.
It won't run on a SPARC Station or a 68k Mac or an IBM 360 or a Wii or a PS3 or, well, a HTC Vision.
Similarly, Android will run on any PC, er phone, er tablet, er, well computer that is basically the same as an existing Android device. The vast majority of the custom development that is, strictly-speaking, necessary for a new device amounts to device drivers. Now, most manufacturers do a lot on top of that to distinguish their product. That's where Sense and MotoBlur and such-like come into play.
A further complication is that storage space and memory are at a heavy premium on these devices. So, it is infeasible to include the incredible variety of drivers and other hardware support that makes a typical Windows or Linux install need several GBs.
Back in the day, when dinosaurs roamed the earth and there were only a handful of PC makers in the world, similar customization was needed. My first PC came with a manufacturer-custom version of DOS 2.1 and Windows 1.1. Is wasn't until at least DOS 3.x (maybe 4.x, that was a long time ago) that a vanilla MS copy had a chance of working. Even then, most peripherals *needed* a custom driver to be used at all. My first mouse is an example. Only way to use it was the Genius Mouse drivers that came with it.
thanks for ur answers guys
Hi guys, is there a clean generic windows phone 7 os? just like desktops were we get a retail os, is there one for phones? and is it flash-able with all phone?
No
No.
It would certainly be interesting to get hold of the OS as Microsoft delivers it to OEMs to begin the process of adapting it to a certain phone model, writing or modifying device drivers, etc., but it seems nothing like that was ever leaked.
WP is closed, as is iOS; for the reasonably open Android there is of course something like a "generic" version; you could even compile and produce one yourself.
There isn't really any such thing as a "clean generic" phone OS, anyhow. Unlike desktop OSes, phone OSes don't ship with support for the massive array of hardware configurations that are found in the wild. Instead, phone OSes rely on a Board Support Package, commonly simply called the firmware, which has the various drivers needed to interface with that specific model's hardware. This is why, for example, even though the source code is available for the Android Open Source Project upon which CyanogenMod is based, it still takes a long time to get fully functional CM ports to each individual device. On things like WP7, where the source code isn't available (except for the kernel and some core libraries), it's even harder.
However, if what you really mean is you want a "clean" ROM that has no carrier customizations in it, there are "open market" ROMs available for many WP7 devices. These ROMs are still specific to the device whose BSP they contain, but are not specific to any mobile operator and usually not to any region.
thanks for the info guys, but it looks like there are no open market roms for the omnia w yet, well, not yet anyway, will keep an eye out now that i know what to look for,
thanks again guys
Answer is yes and no. No oem device created by Microsoft, but there is Nokia. As you know Nokia is part of Microsoft Windows Phone hardware partner. More options etc has Nokia.
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Updates for Android devices are always rolled by the gadget manufacturer, so every time Google introduces a new update we have to wait till the manufacturer of the device decides to roll it out, this obviously takes a lot of time and puts Android at a disadvantage against Apple and Microsoft.
For a Windows device irrespective of the manufacturer if Microsoft rolls out an update all can avail of that update through windows update. Android also being an open platform like Windows should be able to do the same.
If I have a software CD of Windows 7 I can install the software in any manufacturers PC and use it. I may just need to do some additional driver installation if required.
Why can't Android develop their platform to function in a similar manner so that once a new version of Android is released I can install it it any device and o fcourse put in the specific drivers to make it work if required.
With the approach of Microsoft looking very prominent now for both Smartphones and Tablets, this may just be a warning bell for Android, I hope they have their eyes and ears open.
Would be nice to know the views of others. As an Android user do you feel this would be a good step for Google?
kaus1108 said:
I may just need to do some additional driver installation if required.
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The above is the key sentence in your post. The problem is that without the correct hardware drivers for your specific phone the OS may not be able to boot at all and will certainly have limited functionality - just look at the issues there are with trying to run leaded ICS / JB ROMs on phones that don't have an official version of the ROM available with the correct drivers yet.
The reason that Microsoft is able to push out a new OS and have it (mostly) work on any manufacturers PC, with any hardware, is that all the hardware manufacturers are given alpha/beta copies of Windows to test their hardware on and to allow them to build the drivers well in advance of the OS being released by the guys in Redmond.
Google don't do that. They release the OS immediately they have hardware support and compatibility for their devices - and let everybody else deal with the aftermath
windows is the opposite from open platform!
android is an open platform.
the phone makers are free to use android as they wish, they can decide if to upgrade or not.
google only realeses the source code.
XDA is there for providing the latest update.
My phone was supported by Samsung till Gingerbread. But I got jelly bean from XDA devs just after a week after the source code release.
But it does have some bugs which cannot be solved without Samsung's help.
But if you wanted the fastest OEM updates, buy a Nexus.
But 50% of the people are normal users who do not care about updates and new android versions.
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The above is the key sentence in your post. The problem is that without the correct hardware drivers for your specific phone the OS may not be able to boot at all and will certainly have limited functionality - just look at the issues there are with trying to run leaded ICS / JB ROMs on phones that don't have an official version of the ROM available with the correct drivers yet.
The reason that Microsoft is able to push out a new OS and have it (mostly) work on any manufacturers PC, with any hardware, is that all the hardware manufacturers are given alpha/beta copies of Windows to test their hardware on and to allow them to build the drivers well in advance of the OS being released by the guys in Redmond.
Google don't do that. They release the OS immediately they have hardware support and compatibility for their devices - and let everybody else deal with the aftermath
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Thank you for the response and I do agree with what you say and the key to it is that there are certain things that Microsoft do and Google don't and how it is going to impact users in the future.
I remember when I moved from Windows Vista to Windows 7 all the Vista drivers were functioning allright after installing Windows 7 and I have also faced situations where I did not have certain drivers but the PC still functioned on generic drivers provided in the Windows software.
Don't you feel it would be much better if Google just released a Jelly Bean OS and left it to us to install it and I am sure that based on devices already in the market those drivers can always be included in the OS and each phone would pick its own based on its hardware. Only the new devices would need new ones which Google may not be able to provide. If this were true today I would be installing JB in my Galaxy S3 and not have to wait for Sammy.
djbijo said:
windows is the opposite from open platform!
android is an open platform.
the phone makers are free to use android as they wish, they can decide if to upgrade or not.
google only realeses the source code.
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No, Windows is quite open. Apple is the closed one.
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Recently, I found a topic about installing Linux Debian on P500. This piqued my curiosity.
The question is:
Is there other alternatives than Android for P500?
Firefox OS, Windows Phone, I know, is impossible, I am looking for other systems.
Best regards
-Caio
Those Debian installs are most usually for a chroot run on top of android. Get a bash window, not likely a GUI would be able to run with our memory limitations.
Some of us would kill for a working version of Ubuntu touch, but everyone else with higher-end phones is still waiting for this.
i know it may sound newbish, but isnt possible for windows phone to tun on an android device (althought its not open source)? i fund some vague informations on google, so thats why im asking
Well if you get some flagship devices like nexus 4, nexus 5 you can enjoy firefox os, ubuntu and sailfish on them