I've tried most ROMs that are out for the MT4g, and I can say there is a massive variety. I really love the ability to fly between ROMs like this, but there is one glaring fact that I can't get by: they each have very evident weaknesses.
Yesterday, I flashed MIUI for the second time. The first time didn't last long - I quickly reverted to whatever I was using before, probably CM7 or VU. This time, however, I immediately became enamored by its quickness. Responsiveness I had only found on iDevices previously was very evident - and after installing launcherpro, I had the smoothest and most enjoyable surface-level device you could ask for. Polish was very evident in many parts (The two-pixel tall battery meter that would be above the notification bar was quickly a hit with me.) However, I quickly learned that it was not entirely translated from Chinese - the search button from the homescreen would produce only Chinese results. The registration for MIUI's built-in services was built around Chinese websites. On top of these evident, but manageable, issues, I noticed that music would randomly skip, sometimes multiple songs at a time. This issue kept reappearing in third-party music apps. Also, netflix was plain awful. A notification would lag the video and make the audio be out of sync. And that was only when the video actually worked. I ended up switching ROMs this morning when I accidentally turned screen brightness down to the lowest setting which made the screen permanently black, which for some reason has no method to fix. I was not willing to set everything up again.
Of course, before this I had to have a reason to switch from another ROM, right? CM7 has been my go-to for an acceptable Android experience. It works, but has a good number of rough edges, and isn't the smoothest experience ever. It does, however have many aspects that are universally compatible with almost every other Android device on the market running the same ROM, like the theme manager. Updates come almost every day if you are willing to flash a ROM every once in a while. Under the right circumstances, it is pretty speedy. My dealbreaker with it is poor radio performance. I don't know how MIUI would fit in with radio performance, as I was only on it for a day. Sense ROMs seem to have exemplary radio performance. CM7 randomly drops Wifi and is on edge where sense roms would have one or two bars of HSPA+. In addition, it takes longer for CM7 to actually connect to data services when you want to connect to a webpage or something.
My second most common ROM is Virtuous Unity. I think it has some cool eye candy, and has awesome data performance. Unfortunately this is as far as it goes for me. Sense is bulky. Really bulky. Looking at the built-in process manager shows a constant use of 4/5 of the RAM. This is not OK. I could quickly notice that the graphics performance for everything other than the launcher and certain built-in apps quickly decreased. The same apps would run smoothly on a ROM like CM7.
I guess my point is that it has been a while in the development for this device. Why hasn't anyone made a ROM that can pull the best aspects of these together?:
-The visuals and ludicrous responsiveness of MIUI
-The low resource consumption and crazy customization like CM7, as well as generally good compatibility with media apps
-The outstanding radio performance of Virtuous unity and other Sense ROMs
Maybe I'm completely in the dark here on why this might not be possible. Let me know if there's some ROM that I haven't tried yet that comprises these features and you may have found me my new daily driver.
I don't really know what to say to help ya out.
Running MIUI was fine for me, I never saw any Chinese and I ran MIUI for 2 months straight back in the summer. And the notifications never lagged apps, it bugged me when i was on Navigation, but I would turn that pop up off.
Sense ROM's were fine for me as well, I never experienced the bad graphics that you're talking about. I always played games and everything was fine. Sense always takes up more RAM but that's never an issue, even with Sense 3.0 ROM's you're still left with 100mb's or so. Even with 4/5 of your RAM taken that's not a problem as unused RAM is wasted RAM anyways.
And as for CM7, it's always my favorite and "go-to" ROM. It's always smooth and buttery for me 24/7 and has never slowed up on me. Wifi never drops on me and I get the same radio reception that I get on Sense ROM's.
Maybe you have certain apps installed or something that's causing you to have these weird problems with CM7 and Sense. As for MIUI, I never saw Chinese lettering so now sure how I can respond on that one.
I'm on Miui and I love it. You can overclock it and even undervolt a little too if you want but even overclocking the battery life is still really good.
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on miui right now and pretty content with myself
never saw chinese either personally, and never really felt like i needed to go to the miui site for any support, this place has been great for any issues i've had
as for the screen blacking thing, this is a known issue and is fixed by sliding the "trackball" to the right to bring the brightness back up or knowing where the brightness button on the settings page is.
and i personally feel GPS locks on faster in miui then it does when i was on tdj's 3.5 port. i unno, it took awhile for gps to lock on that but in miui it locks on so quickly lol
if you are really having that hard of a time getting full functionality out of the ROMs you are installing you are doing it wrong.
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if you are really having that hard of a time getting full functionality out of the ROMs you are installing you are doing it wrong.
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Everything the OP is talking about is opposite of my experience.
My radio works fine. GPS is zippy on the new leak.
I watch netflix at work ... Ive been through 6 documentaries and 28 episodes of Man Men.
MY experience with all the mentioned ROMs have been great.
If you dont do the recommended steps or do additional research Im gonna have to "+1" the comment above.
Sense: loved the flow of functions, hated the animations & batt life
CM7: Loved the reliability and speed, hated the blandness
MIUI: Love the themes, speed and batt life. Hate the contact manager
(I make my UI look sleeker and more sophisticated than an iphone)
People that dont like it because it looks like an iphone or acts like one is because you let act like one or look like one. You gotta understand all the eatures to appreciate it
MIUI.us has been my everyday ROM for over 2 months now. The only concurrent issue with it is with MIUI Music, where it would entirely lock up the phone even when I followed the advice and disabled certain options in the app that "helped" solve the problem.
Other than that, I haven't seen anything else wrong with it up to this day. I use my phone a whole lot, meaning I watch a lot of youtube videos on it, and even HD TV Shows (Go Kamen Rider Fourze!! ) without any problems whatsoever.
Check out the Doubleshot port if you want to swich to something different every now and then. It's pretty good as well, works great!
Give MIUI.us a second chance, just make sure you wipe everything beforehand. Check everything out and you'll be happy enough once you use it for a while longer, you'll see.
Right now I've got the latest BeatMOD BlissSense ROM with Beats Audio and it's an okay ROM, with the same downside as most Sense ROMs, it is a bit slow here and there.
[EDIT] Oh yeah, about the radio reliability, I've got the best radio results with CM7 and AOSP ROMs. Have you tried flashing the Panache Radio ROM to see if it helps?
Well, that's my two cents
For the Chinese search results hit the search button then menu then change the default search engine.
The only other Chinese I saw was in the themes app, but I find it much easier to get themes from English forum sites.
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I am going insane sometimes with this phone....
Getting it do the simplest of tasks and behave itself should not be a lot to ask. Too many times i feel like the lag, unresponsiveness, hanging, etc. is just unacceptable. I need this phone for work and can't seem to understand why on earth it can't do such a simple thing as flip the screen and allow me to edit contact details without freezing!
It's not the ROM, i flash pretty regularly, and i would doubt it is my SF installed...
I just now did a soft reset and it still comes back way less than optimal.
Is anyone else as frustrated as i am by this phone?? I just feel like it should be so much more reliable than it is, and at times i feel like my Hermes was better.
Is it that 6.1 is still too new, and i need to go back to 6.0? I need better stability and am ready to sacrifice some cool new looks if that's what it takes to get it.
what ROM are u running on? i have no problems with mine
i have no problems either. what programs do you have installed? i had tnt battery meter installed and it KILLED the performance of my phone. It had a small ram footprint but htere was a 1 second lag per key press while typing and during touch flo use, etc.
maybe you have some program like that too?
I would have to say it is something you installed. I use mine for business as well and do not have any issues with responsiveness. I am constantly running notes or excel as well as adding editing contacts and it snaps right to what I need. The biggest problem I have is my fingers. I tend to try to do things I should be doing with the stylus. Other than that it is ten times the phone that my hermes was. In fact my brother still has his hermes and I hate working on that phone because it isn't nearly as fast or responsive as my fuze.
Right now I have Romeos latest Randium ROM (ROMeOS2_ENG_21042_1954_070409_RAnDIUM)
The only thing I can think of, and I have this installed every time, is Garmin Mobile XT GPS Software.
This goes on every ROM I have, and there's really nothing else I can imagine that could be as big a potential for issues as this (I also have like Google Maps and Lordsmiff's Battery Indicator and a few tweaks and things).
I absolutely live off of my Garmin software, but I guess I will have to try to flash and leave it off and see if that is what is causing the pain. It is becoming too much to bare and if that solves it I suppose I will have to look for another GPS.
Why don't you make a custom 6.5 ROM? 21210 is working so good for me that its not even funny.
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Right now I have Romeos latest Randium ROM (ROMeOS2_ENG_21042_1954_070409_RAnDIUM)
The only thing I can think of, and I have this installed every time, is Garmin Mobile XT GPS Software.
This goes on every ROM I have, and there's really nothing else I can imagine that could be as big a potential for issues as this (I also have like Google Maps and Lordsmiff's Battery Indicator and a few tweaks and things).
I absolutely live off of my Garmin software, but I guess I will have to try to flash and leave it off and see if that is what is causing the pain. It is becoming too much to bare and if that solves it I suppose I will have to look for another GPS.
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so after doing some searching...i think lordsmiff's = tnt battery meter. Try uninstalling it and if it hangs your phone while you are trying to uninstall, you have your problem. Hard reset and install everything BUT Lordsmiff's and your fuze will be 5x faster!
Google TNT battery meter and see if it's teh same thing as whaty ou have if you're doubtful. I was told it's not made for vga screens and that might be what's messing it up. really hope this helps, let us know!
Dont use randium!!!
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Right now I have Romeos latest Randium ROM (ROMeOS2_ENG_21042_1954_070409_RAnDIUM)
The only thing I can think of, and I have this installed every time, is Garmin Mobile XT GPS Software.
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I tried the Randium edition of ROMeOS but it is too slow!! I switched from ROMeOS to RC3 [just to try it out] then RRE [for a few minutes] and back to the latest build of ROMeOS and I would definitely recommend ROMeOS w/ Raphael Manila!!
The most important thing to me is that my phone should never lag when sliding open and i should never see a lag when typing and ROMeOS handles those well.
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Right now I have Romeos latest Randium ROM (ROMeOS2_ENG_21042_1954_070409_RAnDIUM)
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I would have to agree that it is probably somewhere between the battery meter and the TF3D2. Before you reflash try turning TF3D2 off and killing the battery program and see if the phone responds better. I know RRE hasn't included TF3D2 in his roms yet because of the bugs still in it.
Yep most likely a problem with one of the Cabs you put on it! I had this same problem with NRGZ28's 041409 build. Installed some of my usual stuff on his new 041609 build and now it is really nice and fast!
This is why I LOVE this forum - You people are AMAZING! What excellent feedback and concern!
The lordsmiff program DID indeed hang my phone when trying to uninstall, and I am trying now to reflash a new ROM and will not install that app and see if that changes things.
I do love that type of notifier though, my eyes so easily find it on the screen so if anyone knows a similar app, please let me know.
I do also agree about the TF3D2 on there, and while i am not sure it's the "problem" for me on my phone, I do notice it's bugs big time. Is there an easy way to tell straight away, if you have TF3D or TF3D2 installed? It also has some serious annoyances to me and i just don't at all like the design of some things that have changed - I hate how the SMS response has changed, and I wind up hitting "back" after typing a mssg (b/c that's where "send" used to be). So annoying after just typing out a mssg. Also the call history screen is trying to be too cute and it's not nearly as functional as the old design (i can't find a way to see my missed/outgoing/incoming calls broken down).
It seems to be very annoying when versions jump so fast from one to the next , before the current/previous version is even optimized. I'm not as into the bleeding edge stuff, i really prefer something that is reliable and just works WELL. It just feels to me like the Touch Pro development stuff moves so fast (at least compared to my experience at the end w my Hermes), but at least others seem to be having good success.
I am trying some of these suggestions now and report back soon. Thank you so much friends!
yeah lots of battery indicators seem to cause problems i had one that ran along the top of the screen it didnt seem to be a problem for a while then it started making the phone lag and freeze constantly
took it off and everything was fine
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I do love that type of notifier though, my eyes so easily find it on the screen so if anyone knows a similar app, please let me know.
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*sadness*
me too
So I recently made the plunge and rooted my Nexus S. It was well worth the trouble. But maybe not for the reason most people might think.
Obviously, my aim was to try out different ROMs and get more power/battery life/functionality out of my phone. I agree on the functionality, but I have great doubts about the other two.
For the last week I've been testing Cynogenmod against Inf1nity against NSCollab and the results have been poor on most accounts.
Improved battery life:
Absolutely no way. My battery life has never been worse. No matter what I try, the battery drain is pretty bad. Not helped by the fact that in all three ROMs there are serious bugs which means auto-syncing even though it's switched off and constant notifications, even though they are all switched off. And that's just on the surface. System processes are going berserk on all three ROMs for no good reason at all.
Improved speed:
If there is, it's a bloody small one. In my opinion, it's quite the opposite. Maybe there's a performance improvement in certain areas, like gaming or audio. But in general the phone was prone to sluggish behaviour, no matter what settings were selected. Only Infinity felt snappy. In all cases you have to remove whatever non-stock launcher was on there and switch off many things.
The only thing you get from all of them is more functionality. But to be honest, I'm back on the stock 2.3.4, rooted and flashed the kernel and my phone is the snappiest it's ever been and so is the battery life. And there was no ROM in sight to get it there.
I'm new to this, so if I have been testing the wrong ROMs then please do point me in the right direction. If not, I'm just going to stick to my rooted phone and customize the parts I want when I have a need for it.
For some reason there is often a disparity between the experience that one individual has with a ROM, and that which another person may have. Even on the same make/model device and the same ROM, peoples 'luck' may be completely different. Perhaps it's the interaction of ROM + Apps installed, configuration, usage, variations at the silicon level...sheer luck...? Who knows?
My device hates Stock ROMs but excells with CM7, whereas others with the same device often have the opposite experience. That's why we're lucky to have a diverse dev culture and usually many options available to us. You just have to find one that fits.
Well, I'm not giving up, that's for sure The Nexus S compatible ROMs seem to be quite new, so I'm hoping future versions will show improvement.
In the meanwhile I have to applaud the community spirit and the work some people put in this. Just a pity it's not translating into results on my phone quite yet. I hope to see a real lean and fast ROM run on my phone soon.
I picked up a Sensation at Walmart today to compare to the G2X and see what the fuss was all about. First impression was downright disappointing and the more I use it the more I am starting to miss using my G2X.
I'm going to force myself to use the Sensation for at least 2-3 days before I return it because right now I'm longing for my G2X. I really don't get why people are leaving G2X to get Sensation. I have both now and the G2X is night and day a better phone to me.
Things I've noticed so far after only a few hours:
- Sensation takes much longer to boot than G2X - I thought the Sensation had frozen at startup but nope, taking its time
- Worrying most to me - a few times the touchscreen will just stop responding to touches. I have to hit a soft key or something and then it starts working again. Very weird.
- Weirdly slow wifi speeds. I get 2mbps down on my Sensation while I get 30mbps down on the G2X - Same router/AP. No other changes?!?
- Screen resolution on Sensation is excellent for reading text and whatnot BUT it's horrible for color saturation and viewing angles. Just holding a G2X next to it really is quite a drastic difference
- Lag city due to Sense and other overhead. Scrolling homescreen, app drawer, lists, even apps like CNN, etc. is shockingly laggy. I hardly have anything running or widgets and it feels slower than my old Incredible with Sense. Not sure what the hell they did to this phone.
- Sense app replacements for stock apps (sms, email, etc.) are complete resource hogs and not fast like stock android. Takes forever to get things done.
I've installed Launcher Pro and am going to try running it with LP to see if it makes this phone livable. So far it's a big fat suck for me.
Will post more here.
mobilehavoc said:
Sensation takes much longer to boot than G2X - I thought the Sensation had frozen at startup but nope, taking its time
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Your phone's defective...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXtZLXwpCC0
Not a disappointment to this G2X owner. The G2X is ready to go out of the box but the Sensation requires some tweaking. First you need to turn off those silly Sense animations. Then get rid of the 7 pages worth of widgets. Go into the WiFi settings and turn on "Maximum Performance". Lastly, do not let the Sensation automatically install your applications and uncheck back up settings and app data under privacy.
-After the initial boot up, the Sensation actually boots much faster due to HTC's quick boot.
-Never had a problem with the display not responding to my Touches. It's actually miles more responsive than the G2X display since I found myself swiping 3 times to unlock the G2X. I believe you though. Some people have this problem.
-WiFi speeds are just as fast on my Sensation. I get around 20mb/s down and 8mb/s up on both devices. Want to see pics?
-Viewing angles are atrocious on the Sensation and it's contrast is not on the same level as the G2X IPS panel. That being said. Colors on the Sensation are much sharper and vibrant. I think it has better colors but this is more of a preference thing. I can tell you whats not preference and that's the brightness of the Sensations display. When viewing both devices in direct sunlight. The Sensation is a mile better than the G2X.
-The UI is not as responsive as on the G2X but when your in an app I think it's faster than on the G2X. The Sensations browser also loads and scrolls web pages faster. In the end, if you tweak Sense a little bit, there is no more lag but it's still not instant like the G2X.
-The Sense email app doesn't get used since I use Gmail. I never use manufacturer email apps due to the stock Gmail app having true push mail. The Text Message app is just as fast and better looking than the one on the G2X. I use to use Hancent until it lagged on the G2X. I am back to Hancent and it doesn't lag on the Sensation.
Everyone is going to have different experiences just like they do with the G2X. I am not biased by no means since I own both devices until I sell one. I am not in debt to either of the two.
In the end, use what you like. Everyone is going to have a different opinion. If you want to see a unbiased review than check mine out.
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Your phone's defective...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXtZLXwpCC0
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Either that or he's telling stories. There is no way in the world the G2X is going to boot faster when the Sensation has quick boot. It boots in 1/3 of the time it takes the G2X.
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Your phone's defective...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXtZLXwpCC0
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Sense has that fastboot feature which doesn't really shut down the phone, but rather puts it in a hibernate mode. From a dead start (after pulling the battery) the sensation does take longer to boot than the G2x. I say that from experience after playing with one at the store
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Sense has that fastboot feature which doesn't really shut down the phone, but rather puts it in a hibernate mode. From a dead start (after pulling the battery) the sensation does take longer to boot than the G2x. I say that from experience after playing with one at the store
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When turning off fast boot mine boot within seconds of each other. When fast boot is on it is still rebooting the system and restoring all of your lost memory that apps suck up over the course of use.
I tested browser extensively. G2x won every time...
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Sense has that fastboot feature which doesn't really shut down the phone, but rather puts it in a hibernate mode. From a dead start (after pulling the battery) the sensation does take longer to boot than the G2x. I say that from experience after playing with one at the store
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yea omar u are rite, actually they are very close but the g2x goes online quicker so i say g2x heres proof go to 7:07..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqfkzlGxiHc
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I tested browser extensively. G2x won every time...
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Do this fix and test again. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118017
To the OP get a new device, yours is defective.
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To the OP get a new device, yours is defective.
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Is it just me or are applications on the Sensation quicker? It seems like my Sensation will load apps faster and also interact with apps faster. Just wandering if it's just me.
Sensation is slow and laggy. The sensation rom on my mt4g is way smoother, faster and less problems.
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just wondering what the benfit of this is? "do not let the Sensation automatically install your applications and uncheck back up settings and app data under privacy."
If its speed, how does this really affect the speed of the UI?
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Not a disappointment to this G2X owner. The G2X is ready to go out of the box but the Sensation requires some tweaking. First you need to turn off those silly Sense animations. Then get rid of the 7 pages worth of widgets. Go into the WiFi settings and turn on "Maximum Performance". Lastly, do not let the Sensation automatically install your applications and uncheck back up settings and app data under privacy.
-After the initial boot up, the Sensation actually boots much faster due to HTC's quick boot.
-Never had a problem with the display not responding to my Touches. It's actually miles more responsive than the G2X display since I found myself swiping 3 times to unlock the G2X. I believe you though. Some people have this problem.
-WiFi speeds are just as fast on my Sensation. I get around 20mb/s down and 8mb/s up on both devices. Want to see pics?
-Viewing angles are atrocious on the Sensation and it's contrast is not on the same level as the G2X IPS panel. That being said. Colors on the Sensation are much sharper and vibrant. I think it has better colors but this is more of a preference thing. I can tell you whats not preference and that's the brightness of the Sensations display. When viewing both devices in direct sunlight. The Sensation is a mile better than the G2X.
-The UI is not as responsive as on the G2X but when your in an app I think it's faster than on the G2X. The Sensations browser also loads and scrolls web pages faster. In the end, if you tweak Sense a little bit, there is no more lag but it's still not instant like the G2X.
-The Sense email app doesn't get used since I use Gmail. I never use manufacturer email apps due to the stock Gmail app having true push mail. The Text Message app is just as fast and better looking than the one on the G2X. I use to use Hancent until it lagged on the G2X. I am back to Hancent and it doesn't lag on the Sensation.
Everyone is going to have different experiences just like they do with the G2X. I am not biased by no means since I own both devices until I sell one. I am not in debt to either of the two.
In the end, use what you like. Everyone is going to have a different opinion. If you want to see a unbiased review than check mine out.
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I picked up a Sensation at Walmart today to compare to the G2X and see what the fuss was all about. First impression was downright disappointing and the more I use it the more I am starting to miss using my G2X.
I'm going to force myself to use the Sensation for at least 2-3 days before I return it because right now I'm longing for my G2X. I really don't get why people are leaving G2X to get Sensation. I have both now and the G2X is night and day a better phone to me.
Things I've noticed so far after only a few hours:
- Sensation takes much longer to boot than G2X - I thought the Sensation had frozen at startup but nope, taking its time
- Worrying most to me - a few times the touchscreen will just stop responding to touches. I have to hit a soft key or something and then it starts working again. Very weird.
- Weirdly slow wifi speeds. I get 2mbps down on my Sensation while I get 30mbps down on the G2X - Same router/AP. No other changes?!?
- Screen resolution on Sensation is excellent for reading text and whatnot BUT it's horrible for color saturation and viewing angles. Just holding a G2X next to it really is quite a drastic difference
- Lag city due to Sense and other overhead. Scrolling homescreen, app drawer, lists, even apps like CNN, etc. is shockingly laggy. I hardly have anything running or widgets and it feels slower than my old Incredible with Sense. Not sure what the hell they did to this phone.
- Sense app replacements for stock apps (sms, email, etc.) are complete resource hogs and not fast like stock android. Takes forever to get things done.
I've installed Launcher Pro and am going to try running it with LP to see if it makes this phone livable. So far it's a big fat suck for me.
Will post more here.
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OP I have to say you sound incredibly biased. Not the least bit of objectivity in your post. You illustrate this when you say the difference in the screens is night and day. Anyone who has both (such as myself and jrwingate) will tell you if you sit them side by side there is not very much difference at all. The G2X has better viewing angles but that's about it. But one thing the Sensation does have over the G2X when it comes to the screen is uniform blacks. Since there is NO screen bleeding at all, the blacks are at least uniform..something I cannot say about the G2X. The sense replacements for certain apps such as SMS and email run perfectly fine and without lag. So your assessment is definitely without merit. You spoke about the difference in boot time...from a cold boot, they are almost the same, and when doing a quick boot, the Sensation boots MUCH faster than the G2X. All in all it sounds like either your phone is defective...or you don't really have one. I say that because too much of what you said is off base. Your description is very inaccurate (as you can see from the responses you've received in this thread). The only night and day (as you called it) difference is the difference in stability. The G2X is a good phone don't get me wrong, but until it's a stable device (freezes, random reboots, battery life) it won't stack up against a phone that is stable. I've had the Sensation now for 11 days and it hasn't crashed once. Care to guess how many times my G2X would have froze or random reboot in that same amount of time? lol ...let's just say A LOT. LOL
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Is it just me or are applications on the Sensation quicker? It seems like my Sensation will load apps faster and also interact with apps faster. Just wandering if it's just me.
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Side by side, they seem about equal to me. I can't really discern a difference.
Since I posted here is what else has happened:
- Was using the phone and launched Market...froze up, phone shut off wouldn't power back on. Had to pull the battery
- Phone may start fast from a warm boot but 99% of the time I never turn my phone off on purpose so the times I start it up is from a cold boot - in those cases it definitely takes FOREVER to start up compared to the G2X. Try this - the battery out of your Sensation and your G2X (assuming you have both). Now put the batteries back in and turn them on the same time. Done.
- Used Navigation and things were fine then noticed the GPS icon kept flashing and couldn't turn if off so it drained my battery and I had to do a restart (WHICH ALSO takes forever btw!!)
- LauncherPro is helping significantly, the scrolling is smooth and overall it's nice. Higher screen res is messing up some widgets
- Wifi speed is back to normal now for some reason so that's at least a good thing. No issues with data to report yet either thankfully
- My favorite thing about this phone is honestly and sadly the lock screen. Having quick access to apps from there is very nice but that's just software and sure not specific to HTC.
- HTC keyboard is garbage so I replaced with Keyboard from Gingerbread in Market.
So basically, in order for me to use this phone I've removed most of what HTC has on by default. I'm all for tweaking but this further illustrates the crap that skins do to phones. This thing running stock Gingerbread (or even Froyo) would have been quite wonderful.
I'm going to keep tweaking and keep it around for a few more days before I decide but I definitely am still missing the G2X. So far this thing doesn't do anything particularly better for me than the G2X. IMHO.
F THIS - I've decided to uninstall LP and go back to Stock Sense launcher. If I end up with LP, then I might as well use G2X. I'm going to live with this phone with stock Sense launcher so I get the real experience.
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OP I have to say you sound incredibly biased. Not the least bit of objectivity in your post. You illustrate this when you say the difference in the screens is night and day. Anyone who has both (such as myself and jrwingate) will tell you if you sit them side by side there is not very much difference at all. The G2X has better viewing angles but that's about it. But one thing the Sensation does have over the G2X when it comes to the screen is uniform blacks. Since there is NO screen bleeding at all, the blacks are at least uniform..something I cannot say about the G2X. The sense replacements for certain apps such as SMS and email run perfectly fine and without lag. So your assessment is definitely without merit. You spoke about the difference in boot time...from a cold boot, they are almost the same, and when doing a quick boot, the Sensation boots MUCH faster than the G2X. All in all it sounds like either your phone is defective...or you don't really have one. I say that because too much of what you said is off base. Your description is very inaccurate (as you can see from the responses you've received in this thread). The only night and day (as you called it) difference is the difference in stability. The G2X is a good phone don't get me wrong, but until it's a stable device (freezes, random reboots, battery life) it won't stack up against a phone that is stable. I've had the Sensation now for 11 days and it hasn't crashed once. Care to guess how many times my G2X would have froze or random reboot in that same amount of time? lol ...let's just say A LOT. LOL
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So why are you posting in the G2X forum and especially in this thread??
mobilehavoc said:
So why are you posting in the G2X forum and especially in this thread??
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Umm if you paid attention to what I wrote...you'd see I said I have BOTH the G2X and the Sensation. Keep up...
mobilehavoc said:
Since I posted here is what else has happened:
- Was using the phone and launched Market...froze up, phone shut off wouldn't power back on. Had to pull the battery
- Phone may start fast from a warm boot but 99% of the time I never turn my phone off on purpose so the times I start it up is from a cold boot - in those cases it definitely takes FOREVER to start up compared to the G2X. Try this - the battery out of your Sensation and your G2X (assuming you have both). Now put the batteries back in and turn them on the same time. Done.
- Used Navigation and things were fine then noticed the GPS icon kept flashing and couldn't turn if off so it drained my battery and I had to do a restart (WHICH ALSO takes forever btw!!)
- LauncherPro is helping significantly, the scrolling is smooth and overall it's nice. Higher screen res is messing up some widgets
- Wifi speed is back to normal now for some reason so that's at least a good thing. No issues with data to report yet either thankfully
- My favorite thing about this phone is honestly and sadly the lock screen. Having quick access to apps from there is very nice but that's just software and sure not specific to HTC.
- HTC keyboard is garbage so I replaced with Keyboard from Gingerbread in Market.
So basically, in order for me to use this phone I've removed most of what HTC has on by default. I'm all for tweaking but this further illustrates the crap that skins do to phones. This thing running stock Gingerbread (or even Froyo) would have been quite wonderful.
I'm going to keep tweaking and keep it around for a few more days before I decide but I definitely am still missing the G2X. So far this thing doesn't do anything particularly better for me than the G2X. IMHO.
F THIS - I've decided to uninstall LP and go back to Stock Sense launcher. If I end up with LP, then I might as well use G2X. I'm going to live with this phone with stock Sense launcher so I get the real experience.
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You've already decided you don't like it so do yourself a favor and return it. You've already had so many problems...funny the problems you named in here I've seen noone else have..but hey if you say you're having the problems then you're having the problems lol.... I'd still go with what the other people said, if you're really having that much trouble then your phone is definitely defective because the Sensation doesn't most of the issues you named. By the way, the data latency has a fix for it. By the way, just for good measure...I've had the phone since the 8th and have yet to experience a freeze or a crash, and the vast majority of others have had the same experience. Same can't be said for my G2X. But to be honest, the things you say in your post makes me really question the validity of it....just saying...objectivity is non-existent..
Just because I have had tons of problems with the Sensation you question my objectivity but people who post the same crap about the G2X is ok because you've had problems. Wow.
Any case, my Wifi on Sensation just slowed down again since I checked 5 mins ago...looks like I'm not the only one. Fix this for me and I'll avoid throwing this thing back in the box.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125623&highlight=wifi+slow
Hi All,
I am switching phones from the LG Revolution to the Droid Charge Free upgrade from VZW due to the two phones that bricked themselves overnight.
I had the LG rooted and the sole custom ROM loaded and I loved it.
I have a few questions about the Charge I hope I can get answered here:
1: I've heard about a lot of issues with the GPS not being accurate/having trouble locking on to Sats. Is this true? Is there a fix for it?
2: How is 4G connectivity/speed? With the LG I had good connectivity and pretty decent speeds ~ 8mbps down. Is the charge in the same realm? Faster slower?
3:I played around with the change in the stores before deciding on the Revo and
the one thing that I hated about the DC was how laggy the screen seemed to be in switching between app drawer and Home screen and even between desktops.
Apps launching also seemed to be slower. I've been reading that the lagginess can be fixed with a custom patch is this true and how much of a difference does it make?
4: Since I intend to Root this 1st thing, and it looks like there are a few different ROMS out there, what is the best ROM to put on this phone?
5: What other quirks and gotcha's do I need to be aware of with the Charge?
Thanks
My noob insight
I have had the charge for about 2 weeks now and did a lot of research and testing between the two devices and the Thunderbolt. Off the bat though, you don't have to deal with the bing intergration (unless that is your thing.) Here is what I know of:
1. It usually works fine, but I have experienced some issues with getting a lock on GPS. It usually would last no longer than a few minutes, but it does happen occasionally. Nothing I believe should be worried about or require a fix. The 4G seems to be fine, I have heard of previous issues but i think they have been addressed through an update.
2. My 4G with the charge is crazy. I consistently get between 10-14Mbps in my apartment, and have rarely seen anything under 9 on my speed test, including on the subway. (Bart in San Francisco)
3. That lag is annoying. It is there and I have been trying to figure out how to relieve some. There is the kernels with the Voodoo lagfix that address the issue. My experience has been so so with voodoo. I received a lot of errors in the custom rom (could have been my fault though) and seen the same lag (sometimes worse). But you should try, most seem pleased with the patch. Most cases it is fast enough though. Reducing the home screens to 5 and cutting back on widgets has helped a lot. But I guess that is expected.
4. I tried the GummyCharged. Altered Beast seem to be pretty popular as well. Both provide increased speed and reduced bloatware. I prefer Touchwiz personally. Nice overlay and not as intrusive as HTC sense (I hate sense).
5. check out this thread http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...harge-full-factory-tar-flashing-software.html in case you want to flash back to stock. Always disable voodoo when flashing anything. I was unable to disable it when trying to go back to flash, someone recommended a program (look it up) although I got the info after I just force flashed back to stock. I am still worried about issues that can arise, but so far so good.
Hope that helps.
I hope I won't hurt the moderators feelings by creating yet another thread on this issue.
I've been using my ONE S (S4) for a year and a half now, and have tried only two roms to date: the official one and currently CM10 (10.1.3).
Official rom seems to be smooth and responsive enough, greatest camera software (I guess that applies to any Sense based rom though), but only untill you start dealing with multitasking. Sense probably takes to much memory, so switching between heavyweight apps (Facebook, Navigon, Torque) basically means starting them over again.
CM 10 has it's own pros and cons:
it's lightweight, responsive, but camera software kinda sucks in comparison with stock one and screen turn-on lag drives me crazy sometimes.
I also have weird problems with CM when it all of a sudden reboots and gets into the bootloop mode, or starts being power greedy (100 to 30 in 10 hours without apparent processes responsible for it), in which case cleaning caches and fixing permissions helps.
Also, can't really say that battery life is much different on both roms, but on the other hand I don't bother switching off GPS/WIFI/3G (I still need my phone to be 'smart', you know).
Maybe I'm missing something an there are roms (or maybe kernels?) that combine the best of both worlds?
Is there a lightweight, responsive rom (maybe supporting some alternative tuned power saving kernels) which has great camera app and is stable as hell?
i use odyssey rom (3.21 build) which has been the most stable/quick/customisable i've found (it's a happy medium at least). battery is ok with the kernel that comes with it, but i've tried with the bubba kernel which does give slight battery improvements, but i get bootloops with it.
Hi,
I'm running on PAC-Man ROM. It's based on Cyanogenmod and has some extra mods. I can say I have never seen a better rom than this one. I am very satisfied with it. And one thing you should be interested in about this rom is that it doesn't have only the basic CM camera, it has an app called Focal too. It is a built-in app so you don't have to care abut downloading some extra camera software.
I am really very satisfied with this rom so far. I can only recommend it.
But, of course, you should try it on your own.
Good luck! :good:
@twotimer I understand that you are simply trying to find the best combo of rom and kernel for your device. The problem with these kinds of threads is often times they tend to move more to discussion which compares roms and kernels or sometimes even other software. For the sake of the public, these threads simply just aren't allowed to exist, no matter how they are phrased or presented. Sorry.
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